havanatopia Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Leonid Slutsky is banned from travelling to the United States and his no doubt not inconsiderable assets in the country have been frozen. He also has similar asset sanctions in place in Canada and the European Union. I refer of course to the 49 year old Chairman of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs and namesake of the manager of Hull City a close friend of Roman Abramovitch. Slutsky, the manager, had hoped to bring the likes of Tammy Abraham to Hull City when, in the close season, he announced his intention to guide his new charges back to the Premier League at the first time of asking. That we are at the point where, if the press are to be believed, Slutsky is in the last chance saloon it illustrates a remarkable fall from grace. I have to remind everyone that I have no time, whatsoever, for the majority of Russians in power today, not a particularly startling remark considering many of us will feel the same. 22 Oligarchs literally raped and pillaged a nation, initially accompanied by the wraith of the then newly elected Putin but who soon would all became his 50% partner making Putin the richest person in the world overnight. The brutality of a regime, thenceforth, to anyone who named and shamed him and anybody close to him catapulted the country as, most decent people's, most hated country on the planet and so it remains. I digress but remember this; In 2009, Russian tax accountant Sergei Magnitsky died in a Moscow prison after investigating fraud involving Russian tax officials. While in prison, Magnitsky developed gall stones, pancreatitis and calculous cholecystitis and was refused medical treatment for months. After almost a year of imprisonment, he was beaten to death while in custody. The Magnitsky Act, passed in the US Senate in 2012 and campaigned for by Bill Browder*, seeks to punish, by asset freezing and visa refusal, of the Russian's involved in the brutal murder of a man who was an attorney, a proxy in fact, of Bill Browder a US/Russian citizen now living in the UK, now with British nationality, who previously set up the Hermitage Fund with a billion dollars of investments in Russia; you can guess what happened to that. Remember the Magnitsky Act; for in an umbrella framework it could, one day, freeze the assets of Putin which, incidentally, are reputed to be in excess of £200 billion. ALL of which was stolen. Back to Slutsky, the manager. For all we know as clean as a whistle although his time as manager of the Russian national team would have brought him into contact with his abhorrent paymasters. So, his fall from grace may be completed today. It would appear, according to many reports, that he is in his last chance saloon with the likes of Nigel Adkins and Paul Lambert poised to take over if they lose against City. With 1 point from a possible 6 City have gone from the relative comfort of a 5 point cushion inside the top six to just 2. Not only do we need to win today but it would give me great pleasure to see a British manager back in charge of Hull City. We have reached a ridiculously low point, and I make no apology for this and there is nothing personal in it, by having a Russian managing an English club. Slutsky, the manager, maybe a decent chap but he has no place in our game. All Russians, in my book, are supposed guilty until proven innocent.. and isn't that feeling just so prevalent in our general psyche and mind set, wrongly I admit, because of the person in charge in the Kremlin. One day his day of reckoning will come. Hull City, Hull Comets, Hull Tigers; the East Riding. Humber Bridge is a white elephant and an irrelevance; I hope the football club soon become the same, an obscure lower league club from which they came. We owe them a good beating, lets do it City. Enjoy the bridge, take a few pics, don't gloat at the win, be humble and get out. 17 1 Quote Link to comment
Garland-sweden Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Wembley, paytime. Come on you reds!!! 1 Quote Link to comment
BigTone Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, havanatopia said: Leonid Slutsky is banned from travelling to the United States and his no doubt not inconsiderable assets in the country have been frozen. He also has similar asset sanctions in place in Canada and the European Union. I refer of course to the 49 year old Chairman of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs and namesake of the manager of Hull City a close friend of Roman Abramovitch. Slutsky, the manager, had hoped to bring the likes of Tammy Abraham to Hull City when, in the close season, he announced his intention to guide his new charges back to the Premier League at the first time of asking. That we are at the point where, if the press are to be believed, Slutsky is in the last chance saloon it illustrates a remarkable fall from grace. I have to remind everyone that I have no time, whatsoever, for the majority of Russians in power today, not a particularly startling remark considering many of us will feel the same. 22 Oligarchs literally raped and pillaged a nation, initially accompanied by the wraith of the then newly elected Putin but who soon would all became his 50% partner making Putin the richest person in the world overnight. The brutality of a regime, thenceforth, to anyone who named and shamed him and anybody close to him catapulted the country as, most decent people's, most hated country on the planet and so it remains. I digress but remember this; In 2009, Russian tax accountant Sergei Magnitsky died in a Moscow prison after investigating fraud involving Russian tax officials. While in prison, Magnitsky developed gall stones, pancreatitis and calculous cholecystitis and was refused medical treatment for months. After almost a year of imprisonment, he was beaten to death while in custody. The Magnitsky Act, passed in the US Senate in 2012 and campaigned for by Bill Browder*, seeks to punish, by asset freezing and visa refusal, of the Russian's involved in the brutal murder of a man who was an attorney, a proxy in fact, of Bill Browder a US/Russian citizen now living in the UK, now with British nationality, who previously set up the Hermitage Fund with a billion dollars of investments in Russia; you can guess what happened to that. Remember the Magnitsky Act; for in an umbrella framework it could, one day, freeze the assets of Putin which, incidentally, are reputed to be in excess of £200 billion. ALL of which was stolen. Back to Slutsky, the manager. For all we know as clean as a whistle although his time as manager of the Russian national team would have brought him into contact with his abhorrent paymasters. So, his fall from grace may be completed today. It would appear, according to many reports, that he is in his last chance saloon with the likes of Nigel Adkins and Paul Lambert poised to take over if they lose against City. With 1 point from a possible 6 City have gone from the relative comfort of a 5 point cushion inside the top six to just 2. Not only do we need to win today but it would give me great pleasure to see a British manager back in charge of Hull City. We have reached a ridiculously low point, and I make no apology for this and there is nothing personal in it, by having a Russian managing an English club. Slutsky, the manager, maybe a decent chap but he has no place in our game. All Russians, in my book, are supposed guilty until proven innocent.. and isn't that feeling just so prevalent in our general psyche and mind set, wrongly I admit, because of the person in charge in the Kremlin. One day his day of reckoning will come. Hull City, Hull Comets, Hull Tigers; the East Riding. Humber Bridge is a white elephant and an irrelevance; I hope the football club soon become the same, an obscure lower league club from which they came. We owe them a good beating, lets do it City. Enjoy the bridge, take a few pics, don't gloat at the win, be humble and get out. Condensed Version Hull City: Managed by some Russian slut who could lose their job today if they lose. COYR Hull 0 City 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Septic Peg Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Morning Hav. This has a 1-1 written all over it. Here's hoping the LJ tinkering Tombola isn't making a start today... Come on you reds. Edited November 25, 2017 by Septic Peg Quote Link to comment
Garland-sweden Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Think Elisson will start. 5 in midfield? Quote Link to comment
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 City will win. But im not telling you which one 2 Quote Link to comment
Red Bill Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 I always enjoy Hav's articles and none more than today. I share his sentiments regading the criminals in charge of their country and have, during my travels, met many Russian "businessmen". Without exception I have found them ignorant, ill-mannered oafs who have lined their pockets while old ladies sit on Moscow streets selling their few remaining possessions in order to eat. Having got that off my chest - Hull 1, City 2. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
downendcity Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 To paraphrae Adge Hull, Hull I hate thee stull. 2 Quote Link to comment
East Yorkshire CideRed Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just had a peek out of the window. Frosty, but looks like a nice day in prospect. Safe trip to all you fellow reds travelling up here today. 1 Quote Link to comment
GrahamC Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Be interesting to see if any of Bryan, Paterson or Djuric start at Hull. I'd be very surprised if Joe did, as he took a hell of a whack in midweek. LJ hasn't got much wrong this season but I was amazed when Paterson came on as a sub when we were already 4-1 up v Palace, after losing so much weight with his virus, as coincidence or not, he looked shattered despite only playing about 15 minutes & hasn't been the same player as the one with the highest number of assists in the division since that spell of illness. Djuric worries me, outstanding in a couple of recent games, but it looks to me like his frame means he is going to struggle with injuries all of the time. Expect Magnússon, Pack & Taylor or Woodrow to come in to replace these 3 and it will be a draw. Eliasson, the only bright spot in midweek will probably lose out today to Pack because we are away & he isn't the best defensively. Edited November 25, 2017 by GrahamC 1 Quote Link to comment
Lew-T Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Well going by Joe Bryan’s instagram last night, he was with his dog which suggests he hasn’t even travelled. Big shame. Quote Link to comment
Ashtonwurzel Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Injury crisis is a lot worse that is being let on. Multiple changes today, expect Woodrow to start with Reid (if available ?) in a 5 man midfield - IMO. Edited November 25, 2017 by Ashtonwurzel Quote Link to comment
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 hours ago, East Yorkshire CideRed said: Just had a peek out of the window. Frosty, but looks like a nice day in prospect. Safe trip to all you fellow reds travelling up here today. Wouldn't mind it frosty and sunny here, another night of rain and the day is the same. We have had rain here, more or less for about 6 weeks now and apart from a couple of weak snowy days, nothing else. Winters here are getting milder and wet, I expect they will blame it on global warming. Still, looking forward to the game this afternoon, surely we won't play as badly as Tuesday night, I predicted a win by 2 goals then, how wrong was I! I hope LJ won't do much tinkering and we will get back to winning ways to keep us in the top 6. COYR's!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment
AppyDAZE Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Something has to give. Apparently they beat anything beginning with a "B" but can't muster up anything against anyone else. We always do crap against them. We rarely score against them. Wembley hasn't yet been revenged. Mind you, I said all this on Tuesday about PNE NOT overly optimistic Edited November 25, 2017 by AppyDAZE Quote Link to comment
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 I think Eliasson will start given all the pre match stuff he`s been doing. Quote Link to comment
reddogkev Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Fascinating read as always Havana, thought-provoking and somewhat disconcerting. How far and wide does the influence of the Russian wealth spread? Today I fear a close game with City losing by the odd goal. To me, based on our recent form and key injuries, this just seems like a typical game we will lose. Hoping to be wrong come 4.50. COME ON YOU REDSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 1 Quote Link to comment
Aizoon Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 'Ell, 'Ull and 'Alifax, as they say in the Broad Acres. Quote Link to comment
Vincent Vega Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Reports of Coach 1 breaking down. Quote Link to comment
bristolcitysweden Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Hull are there for the taking. They are very inexperienced, especially at the back. The simple message is win the game. Don't make it to complicated just because we have time to flying up yesterday. Don't fill the day with bullshit talking. Move your assess and win the game. Edited November 25, 2017 by bristolcitysweden 1 Quote Link to comment
RedM Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: Reports of Coach 1 breaking down. Correct. On temple way. Soon sorted though. They got a replacement coach to them. They arrived at the services up near sheffield just before we left 15 mins ago. So they were about an hour behind us. We are about hour from Hull so they will make match. 2 Quote Link to comment
Lew-T Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: Hull are there for the taking. They are very inexperienced, especially at the back. The simple message is win the game. Don't make it to complicated just because we have time to flying up yesterday. Don't fill the day with bullshit talking. Move your assess and win the game. Micheal Dawson, Alan McGregor, Frazier Campbell, Seb Larsson are not inexperienced. I think this will play into our hands though. With a young energetic squad we have with a high press, I’m hoping we will have too much for Hull this afternoon. Quote Link to comment
bristolcitysweden Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Lew-T said: Micheal Dawson, Alan McGregor, Frazier Campbell, Seb Larsson are not inexperienced. I think this will play into our hands though. With a young energetic squad we have with a high press, I’m hoping we will have too much for Hull this afternoon. Be aware of the tennis balls COYR!! Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted November 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: Fascinating read as always Havana, thought-provoking and somewhat disconcerting. How far and wide does the influence of the Russian wealth spread? Today I fear a close game with City losing by the odd goal. To me, based on our recent form and key injuries, this just seems like a typical game we will lose. Hoping to be wrong come 4.50. COME ON YOU REDSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Some very old money, you know the sort that fell asleep on the back benches of the Lords about 20 years ago and are still there. The sort that own a pile through 10 generations but are a bit hard up for cash yet still wield enormous influence in the corridors of Westminster and are from both political polars... These are the types who have been 'befriended' by the dirty money and is replicated on Capitol Hill. These are the core reasons we see a lack of action or will. 2 Quote Link to comment
cidered abroad Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, havanatopia said: Some very old money, you know the sort that fell asleep on the back benches of the Lords about 20 years ago and are still there. The sort that own a pile through 10 generations but are a bit hard up for cash yet still wield enormous influence in the corridors of Westminster and are from both political polars... These are the types who have been 'befriended' by the dirty money and is replicated on Capitol Hill. These are the core reasons we see a lack of action or will. I once heard that when William the Conqueror dished out all the land that he didn't want, it went to about 150 of his most trusted knights. It is reputed that these 150 families are still among the richest and most influential people in Britain. Wars and financial depressions hardly seem to adversely affect them. When I lived in Portugal, some middle class locals were adamant that there was an elite that ran the government, the legal system and the communications especially newspapers. It's probably the same in most West European countries and also the US. Me, I was born with nothing and will be the same when I die. Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted November 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Well, you know what they say Cidered; you cannot take it with you. Edited November 25, 2017 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment
Vincent Vega Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 31 minutes ago, RedM said: Correct. On temple way. Soon sorted though. They got a replacement coach to them. They arrived at the services up near sheffield just before we left 15 mins ago. So they were about an hour behind us. We are about hour from Hull so they will make match. What coach are you on ? Quote Link to comment
havanatopia Posted November 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 Are we talking about the players coach breaking down here? Quote Link to comment
bristolcitysweden Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, havanatopia said: Are we talking about the players coach breaking down here? You could believe so as this is England but SL can afford Easyjet unlike Raul Castro Quote Link to comment
ashton_fan Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 I feel that we should win this one but then the last person to score for us there was Leroy Lita , our record against them is appalling. Quote Link to comment
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted November 25, 2017 Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said: Reports of Coach 1 breaking down. Maybe one of their 17` foot bar scarves got caught around a drive wheel. Edited November 25, 2017 by Juan Kerr 1 Quote Link to comment
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