barneyrubble Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Struggling to think of any recent teams that were successful that were developed rather than bought. Man utd with Beckham and Co were largely homegrown developed but still with some big signings. Anyone think of any other teams and is it still possible to do without spending big money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 money is always important. Liverpool famously had a number of home grown players in the 70's and 80's but still had to buy in the likes of John Barnes, Kenny Dalglish etc. Newcastle's spending rocketed under Keegan (but that was before FFP and Mike Ashley. In short, money is always key, whether it be wages, transfer fees or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 It will always be a mixture if both. What the percentages of each are, will depend mostly on the successful Academy development. Going back to AD time, the team that won promotion was approx 35% bought, Sweeney, Drysdale, Cheesley, Gillies and the rest free transfers and youth team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 A club , especially in the higher divisions, would have to be unbelievably lucky to have adequate cover for every position in their academy . There will always be a need to top up with a player bought in from another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Barney red said: Struggling to think of any recent teams that were successful that were developed rather than bought. Man utd with Beckham and Co were largely homegrown developed but still with some big signings. Anyone think of any other teams and is it still possible to do without spending big money. Even German and Spanish clubs do not propose theoretically having an entire XI of players supplied by their academies. Signings are also developed. Possibly the worlds greatest team ever Barcelona were developed (depending on perception) because without the core of its La Masia players - Busquets, Iniesta, and Xavi the team could not play like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Personally I don’t think it’s possible - and neither does SL. What SL wants LJ to implement a strategy where a squad is made up of 4 or 5 home grown players combined with the remaining being of experienced Championship quality - signed in other words. Thats what the development squads are all about - young and largely inexperienced players learning about competitive men’s football. Vyner is just one example. Obviously some reach the required Championship quality and become an asset- like Bryan, Reid and Kelly whilst others don’t make it. Most of us know that very few youngsters actually become full time pro footballers. The failure rate is massive so it’s no surprise to see the same happening at City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 New Southampton manager developed his team in a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Need a mix of the 2 IMO. Buy to augment and strengthen yes, but one of the criticisms I have of LJ is the churn. I understand you can't just put loads of academy players in the team, sink or swim, in a League like this. However buy players yes and if they aren't the finished article- develop them, or switch tactics to match some of them- build your tactics around the team a bit if they aren't a perfect fit. His approach- is middling, bit muddled- one thing is for sure, with the churn in and out of the squad (accept this summer it was somewhat necessary) you cannot develop cohesion, style- high turnover of players once it gets past a certain point is IMO detrimental to this. Appreciate some are short term signings to be first team ready, but overall the churn has done the side no good at all IMO. I'm not stability at all costs but the ins and outs, new players coming and going all the time- never thought it would help. @Cowshed Pique and Puyol not from La Masia too? (Though I accept, Puyol not that technically gifted- but he was their leader). However those 3 midfielders enabled them (and Spain) to control games the way they did no doubt. 11 academy players going to success? No way, not these days- not anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southvillekiddy Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 15 hours ago, Barney red said: Struggling to think of any recent teams that were successful that were developed rather than bought. Man utd with Beckham and Co were largely homegrown developed but still with some big signings. Anyone think of any other teams and is it still possible to do without spending big money. The key is having the highest quality coaching staff. I don't think we have ever had that. I leave you to ponder why this has been and is the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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