Silvio Dante Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 There were a lot of reasons why last season went south. Tiredness, the comedown from the cup run, Lois Diony amongst them. However, what I think a lot of us would point to was January. After the Wolves game (yes, late December), we followed up with a 0-5 vs Villa and a 0-3 vs Watford, albeit with a markedly changed side. Even though we were unlucky to lose to Man City, we then had a fairly abject Norwich performance. Without doubt, some of that was fatigue. But some of it was momentum. We played Watford and made multiple changes - all of a sudden, we lose 4 on the bounce. This is why I think the selection today was spot on. We could have tried Eisa or many others, but inherently we were on an 8 game run and wanted to protect that. Not necessarily for today, but for the momentum going into next week and the week after. By the time we play Forest, we could and should be 10 games unbeaten and that not only gives us belief, it also alters their mindset. 9 games unbeaten. 3 clean sheets on the bounce. I know, and have said myself, that some of the performances haven't been great, but as an opponent would you not fear a side with that momentum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: There were a lot of reasons why last season went south. Tiredness, the comedown from the cup run, Lois Diony amongst them. However, what I think a lot of us would point to was January. After the Wolves game (yes, late December), we followed up with a 0-5 vs Villa and a 0-3 vs Watford, albeit with a markedly changed side. Even though we were unlucky to lose to Man City, we then had a fairly abject Norwich performance. Without doubt, some of that was fatigue. But some of it was momentum. We played Watford and made multiple changes - all of a sudden, we lose 4 on the bounce. This is why I think the selection today was spot on. We could have tried Eisa or many others, but inherently we were on an 8 game run and wanted to protect that. Not necessarily for today, but for the momentum going into next week and the week after. By the time we play Forest, we could and should be 10 games unbeaten and that not only gives us belief, it also alters their mindset. 9 games unbeaten. 3 clean sheets on the bounce. I know, and have said myself, that some of the performances haven't been great, but as an opponent would you not fear a side with that momentum? I was just about to post along the same lines, but read your post first. Getting used to winning is an important as rotating and resting players. 2 wins and 2 clean sheets will reinforce players confidence - the reverse of this time last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Alex Ferguson said something along the lines of players win matches-defences win titles..our defence is very very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: There were a lot of reasons why last season went south. Tiredness, the comedown from the cup run, Lois Diony amongst them. However, what I think a lot of us would point to was January. After the Wolves game (yes, late December), we followed up with a 0-5 vs Villa and a 0-3 vs Watford, albeit with a markedly changed side. Even though we were unlucky to lose to Man City, we then had a fairly abject Norwich performance. Without doubt, some of that was fatigue. But some of it was momentum. We played Watford and made multiple changes - all of a sudden, we lose 4 on the bounce. This is why I think the selection today was spot on. We could have tried Eisa or many others, but inherently we were on an 8 game run and wanted to protect that. Not necessarily for today, but for the momentum going into next week and the week after. By the time we play Forest, we could and should be 10 games unbeaten and that not only gives us belief, it also alters their mindset. 9 games unbeaten. 3 clean sheets on the bounce. I know, and have said myself, that some of the performances haven't been great, but as an opponent would you not fear a side with that momentum? I agree, but LJ reckons they all had the splatz so he picked who was fit, just so happens it was a good side apparently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Fantastic momentum building. Pray we get some real quality in the transfer window when is Korey likely to be back ? Would be like a new signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said: Alex Ferguson said something along the lines of players win matches-defences win titles..our defence is very very good "Attack wins you games, defence wins you titles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: "Attack wins you games, defence wins you titles" Yeah knew it was something like this mate...I am still a fan of Johnson and the defenders we have signed have improved us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: "Attack wins you games, defence wins you titles" And with that in mind, I'd propose that our defence is the best its been at this level going back to when I can remember we've played at this level (since c1990). The only realistic GK contender at this level to Niki is Basso - but I'd say Niki's better Right back there is an argument, and its where we're weaker Centre half - at this level, have we had better than Webster and Kalas at this level - I'd argue not Left back - again, an argument and for me the best LB defensively at this level was Scotty, but its not a million miles away. So, I'd say as a minimum 60% of the back five are the best we've had at this level in the last 30 years (and by default 40 years as we weren't at this level in the 80's). Now that is something to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keynshamred Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: "Attack wins you games, defence wins you titles" Here he is. Don't pretend you ever liked Johnson. Laughable Bob laughable. Get on the bandwagon sunshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Next Saturday is vital as three points likely to move us up 2/3 places, noting the other games - COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, MC RISK77 said: Yeah knew it was something like this mate...I am still a fan of Johnson and the defenders we have signed have improved us Watching our back four tonight - They looked well drilled , working and moving , as a unit and very narrow / compact Would put it down on good coaching but not our normal back four so some good leaders out there on top of the coaching aspect (BW?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, keynshamred said: Here he is. Don't pretend you ever liked Johnson. Laughable Bob laughable. Get on the bandwagon sunshine Oh FFS. Can we not? I can't say I agree with everything @BobBobSuperBob says but if you don't like him, just take it to PM and leave the rest of us to a discussion before another topic goes south. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, keynshamred said: Here he is. Don't pretend you ever liked Johnson. Laughable Bob laughable. Get on the bandwagon sunshine Alright stalker ? Got Lees valentine chocolates yet ? Dont let them melt on the minibus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Alright stalker ? Got Lees valentine chocolates yet ? Dont let them melt on the minibus Apparently he`s buzzing....like a shithouse fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, Silvio Dante said: Oh FFS. Can we not? I can't say I agree with everything @BobBobSuperBob says but if you don't like him, just take it to PM and leave the rest of us to a discussion before another topic goes south. Cheers. He probably would but I’m banned from PMs Silvio Ill just ignore the belter and give everyone else a rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keynshamred Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: He probably would but I’m banned from PMs Silvio 9 From what I've seen no one agrees with him. Nause!! Can't wait for the day he gives Johnson credit!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: He probably would but I’m banned from PMs Silvio Ill just ignore the belter and give everyone else a rest That may be the least surprising news I’ve heard this decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: There were a lot of reasons why last season went south. Tiredness, the comedown from the cup run, Lois Diony amongst them. However, what I think a lot of us would point to was January. After the Wolves game (yes, late December), we followed up with a 0-5 vs Villa and a 0-3 vs Watford, albeit with a markedly changed side. Even though we were unlucky to lose to Man City, we then had a fairly abject Norwich performance. Without doubt, some of that was fatigue. But some of it was momentum. We played Watford and made multiple changes - all of a sudden, we lose 4 on the bounce. This is why I think the selection today was spot on. We could have tried Eisa or many others, but inherently we were on an 8 game run and wanted to protect that. Not necessarily for today, but for the momentum going into next week and the week after. By the time we play Forest, we could and should be 10 games unbeaten and that not only gives us belief, it also alters their mindset. 9 games unbeaten. 3 clean sheets on the bounce. I know, and have said myself, that some of the performances haven't been great, but as an opponent would you not fear a side with that momentum? Good post, lots of good points - although worth noting that after the home defeat to Norwich in Jan 2018, to which you referred, we only lost 2 of the next 8 league games...but we still managed to plummet 9 places...anyway, that’s history....momentum is the key word that you used...it means so much in football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: He probably would but I’m banned from PMs Silvio Ill just ignore the belter and give everyone else a rest Pass me the baton Bob....and off I go, again...! (Joking....giving up on useless spats on here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Pass me the baton Bob....and off I go, again...! (Joking....giving up on useless spats on here) Best thing that ever happened BS4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 43 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: "Attack wins you games, defence wins you titles" Think we have more chance of winning games with Famara myself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 Momentum and confidence. We saw that last season for several months, keep ticking along, not as flamboyant or as technically good but if you can keep ticking along things can improve, things improve playing style can kick on and the 2 can really feed off each other. Nice little run now. @Silvio Dante I think we could have got a draw v Norwich- that may have just stopped the rot and got a bit of confidence and stability back. That happens I think the next 2 results the same but we can play a bit more for a point at Bolton. Draw that and suddenly 2 more points- 3 up v Sunderland we're not then needing to go for 5 or 6 as we were and could even add more on the break- little things like that can build runs. Assume the draws at Leeds and at home to Fulham the same, again we can then play a bit more for draw at Cardiff- maybe get it, things can keep just slowly ticking over win here, draw here- suddenly before you know it you're say 8 unbeaten and still in the playoffs. Think top 2 was gone but this sort of stability could have kept us right in the playoff picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Watching our back four tonight - They looked well drilled , working and moving , as a unit and very narrow / compact Would put it down on good coaching but not our normal back four so some good leaders out there on top of the coaching aspect (BW?) Huddersfield were pretty awful though Bob we have faced harder games in the championship, but must admit things are certainly looking up for us defence wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 8 hours ago, pillred said: Huddersfield were pretty awful though Bob we have faced harder games in the championship, but must admit things are certainly looking up for us defence wise. Sure, accepting Huddersfield weren’t great but Watching it on a stream with the high camera position it was interesting watching our shape , particularly the back four and how they worked as a unit and , ignoring the particular game or Huddersfield , It was interesting and decent Our back four certainly work , compact , narrow as a unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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