Silvio Dante Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I’ve been fairly quiet over the last few weeks. Reasons being, I didn’t think there was much to add, or indeed, much to criticise. So, what I’ve been thinking is where we are, where we go and whether to upset the applecart. First things first - for me, without MT, we do need a striker. Mo hasn’t got enough experience to step in and if Fam loses form (criticised in the past, but excellent atm btw), we have nowt. To me, the 100% priority in the next two weeks. As for the rest... Do I think we can do better than Marlon long run? Yes. Would I change it now? No. MP and JB do jobs well, KS and LW back in a month. It’s a good top half midfield with decent back up so leave it be. Tbh, same, if not more, in defence. Forest proved we have 8 for 4 positions. So the defence for me is fine. So, got me, all we need is one striker. One striker . One striker who can hit the ground running. That’s it. I’d genuinely put all my eggs in that basket. So, let’s say you have say £3m to spend. Where do you go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 I'd bring in a young striker and centre midfielder from the prem (no idea on names), low fees and little risk. Then save the other bit of money for the summer to put towards bringing in da silva and extending kalas' loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I’ve been fairly quiet over the last few weeks. Reasons being, I didn’t think there was much to add, or indeed, much to criticise. So, what I’ve been thinking is where we are, where we go and whether to upset the applecart. First things first - for me, without MT, we do need a striker. Mo hasn’t got enough experience to step in and if Fam loses form (criticised in the past, but excellent atm btw), we have nowt. To me, the 100% priority in the next two weeks. As for the rest... Do I think we can do better than Marlon long run? Yes. Would I change it now? No. MP and JB do jobs well, KS and LW back in a month. It’s a good top half midfield with decent back up so leave it be. Tbh, same, if not more, in defence. Forest proved we have 8 for 4 positions. So the defence for me is fine. So, got me, all we need is one striker. One striker . One striker who can hit the ground running. That’s it. I’d genuinely put all my eggs in that basket. So, let’s say you have say £3m to spend. Where do you go? I’m not sure we’d get a proven championship striker, fit enough to hit the ground running, for £3million, in January. I think you are looking at a minimum of double, if not treble that, unless we pick out a gem of a deal for someone who’s contract will expire in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 @Silvio Dante £3m you say? £1m loan fee and £1m wages (£40k pw)....that’s a different ball-game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooPants Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @Silvio Dante £3m you say? £1m loan fee and £1m wages (£40k pw)....that’s a different ball-game! Calvert-Lewin? I know he played regularly last season but I don’t believe he’s been playing much this time out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Diddlydonkey said: Calvert-Lewin? I know he played regularly last season but I don’t believe he’s been playing much this time out. 20 games and 4 goals for Everton this season. Really can't seem them letting him go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 I really think that if we push the boat out a bit and sign a striker and central midfielder that click in our team, we WILL make the playoffs. This is a very even division with no stand out teams and we should be ruthless and grasp the opportunity we've created for ourselves. All easier said than done however, as we don't want to take any unnecessary risks or risk upsetting the squad balance with another Diony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: @Silvio Dante £3m you say? £1m loan fee and £1m wages (£40k pw)....that’s a different ball-game! That’s the way forward for me this month. Have no idea of who but I think that it’s worth looking at seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: @Silvio Dante £3m you say? £1m loan fee and £1m wages (£40k pw)....that’s a different ball-game! Was thinking the same. The money doesn’t have to just be a purchase. But does it risk disharmony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 No idea who as a Striker always is the position everyone wants, it seems you can never have enough, but we always seem to barely have any. Oh for a really established partnership, bit hard to do when playing one up top though. I would think that many Prem players are already out on Season long loans, although there are always a few floating about as we got Kent last year. I don’t know what’s happening in League One, any club got a good striker who look likely to miss out on promotion? That’s if we are not willing to spend what it might cost to buy a ‘ready made’ one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastside Moonwalker Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Diddlydonkey said: Calvert-Lewin? I know he played regularly last season but I don’t believe he’s been playing much this time out. No way he'd be 3, looking more for 15-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, RedM said: No idea who as a Striker always is the position everyone wants, it seems you can never have enough, but we always seem to barely have any. Oh for a really established partnership, bit hard to do when playing one up top though. I would think that many Prem players are already out on Season long loans, although there are always a few floating about as we got Kent last year. I don’t know what’s happening in League One, any club got a good striker who look likely to miss out on promotion? That’s if we are not willing to spend what it might cost to buy a ‘ready made’ one That is the dilemma Tottenham have had trying to recruit a striker to cover Kane, when playing one up top. I know LJ wants a similar type to Fam, but trying to get a young striker day on loan from Prem who is strong enough to play direct us gonna be hard to find. Having said that we’ve seen rumours of Wickham and Zohore, which fit that bill. However will they come to play second fiddle to Fam? I don’t see why Weimann couldn’t play striker again, especially as our football has got a bit shorter as we familiarise with this 4141. Watkins, Adelakun we were told can play through the middle, and maybe Eisa plays a few more minutes. I’m not in favour of bringing someone in for the sake of it. They’ve got to know what role they are here to play, e.g. back-up to Fam. No point selling them bring a starter if that’s not the intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: That is the dilemma Tottenham have had trying to recruit a striker to cover Kane, when playing one up top. I know LJ wants a similar type to Fam, but trying to get a young striker day on loan from Prem who is strong enough to play direct us gonna be hard to find. Having said that we’ve seen rumours of Wickham and Zohore, which fit that bill. However will they come to play second fiddle to Fam? I don’t see why Weimann couldn’t play striker again, especially as our football has got a bit shorter as we familiarise with this 4141. Watkins, Adelakun we were told can play through the middle, and maybe Eisa plays a few more minutes. I’m not in favour of bringing someone in for the sake of it. They’ve got to know what role they are here to play, e.g. back-up to Fam. No point selling them bring a starter if that’s not the intention. This is the biggest issue I think and also affects which kids we can get because their parent club will expect minutes and will probably put in caveats on the fee if they don't achieve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'd being looking for loans, that are looking to move from their parent club in the summer. A try before you buy option so to speak. Didn't work for diony...but at least we didn't buy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 I wouldn't bring anyone in this stage, just let the current full squad play out the season and see if we can reach the top 6. Palmer is enough to give us the extra bit of strength. Hopefully the scouting and planning has already begun for the player's we need in the summer. I would keep Mo Eisa and try to push him into the first-team fold with as many minutes as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, spudski said: I'd being looking for loans, that are looking to move from their parent club in the summer. A try before you buy option so to speak. Didn't work for diony...but at least we didn't buy him. So long as it's option to buy and not obligation. Obligation to buy can definitely be a problem- but also a good thing. Don't want to risk getting tied down unless absolutely certain though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: So long as it's option to buy and not obligation. Obligation to buy can definitely be a problem- but also a good thing. Don't want to risk getting tied down unless absolutely certain though. I don’t think we’d ever do an obligation to buy Mr P, MA does seem to like the buy Option ones which are sensible IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PooPants Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 12 hours ago, JBFC II said: 20 games and 4 goals for Everton this season. Really can't seem them letting him go That many!? I thought he’d slipped down the pecking order, my bad. That Richarlison will do then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Wanderingred said: I really think that if we push the boat out a bit and sign a striker and central midfielder that click in our team, we WILL make the playoffs. This is a very even division with no stand out teams and we should be ruthless and grasp the opportunity we've created for ourselves. All easier said than done however, as we don't want to take any unnecessary risks or risk upsetting the squad balance with another Diony. Making the play offs is not winning the prize of Prem football. Pushing for automatic promotion would be a different proposition and merit « pushing the boat out « but that would appear just a little bit beyond us . Otherwise I share your opinion that this division is by and large very tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: That is the dilemma Tottenham have had trying to recruit a striker to cover Kane, when playing one up top. I know LJ wants a similar type to Fam, but trying to get a young striker day on loan from Prem who is strong enough to play direct us gonna be hard to find. Having said that we’ve seen rumours of Wickham and Zohore, which fit that bill. However will they come to play second fiddle to Fam? I don’t see why Weimann couldn’t play striker again, especially as our football has got a bit shorter as we familiarise with this 4141. Watkins, Adelakun we were told can play through the middle, and maybe Eisa plays a few more minutes. I’m not in favour of bringing someone in for the sake of it. They’ve got to know what role they are here to play, e.g. back-up to Fam. No point selling them bring a starter if that’s not the intention. What’s Peter Beadle up to these days ? Nicky Morgan or Colin Gordon type players that come in under the radar but really make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I don’t think we’d ever do an obligation to buy Mr P, MA does seem to like the buy Option ones which are sensible IMHO Yeah, agreed Bob. Obligation to buy- can you imagine if we had done that with Diony or Matthews? Option to buy, definitely sensible. Best configuration of that (if it's possible) would be if the club i.e. us had the option to exercise- in the same way as the exercising a year option on a contract is solely with the club, it would be good if the potential buying club had the decision to buy or not solely with them. Probably unrealistic though- I know we have an option to buy Da Silva but he still has to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 hours ago, RedM said: No idea who as a Striker always is the position everyone wants, it seems you can never have enough, but we always seem to barely have any. Oh for a really established partnership, bit hard to do when playing one up top though. I would think that many Prem players are already out on Season long loans, although there are always a few floating about as we got Kent last year. I don’t know what’s happening in League One, any club got a good striker who look likely to miss out on promotion? That’s if we are not willing to spend what it might cost to buy a ‘ready made’ one I really rate Karlan Grant at Charlton, but they're having a decent season this year, up in 4th. He's only 21, but has really started fulfilling his potential for the first time and has 14 goals already this season. He was a name on a "future England 11" article I read 4-5 years ago a I've checked on his progress occasionally since then. He might be a bit above the theoretical £3m budget, but would probably be cheaper than Marriott was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 13 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: I’ve been fairly quiet over the last few weeks. Reasons being, I didn’t think there was much to add, or indeed, much to criticise. Seems to be odd that you’d only post if you can find something to criticise. Theres a few on this forum like that. Very odd way to be I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: I really rate Karlan Grant at Charlton, but they're having a decent season this year, up in 4th. He's only 21, but has really started fulfilling his potential for the first time and has 14 goals already this season. He was a name on a "future England 11" article I read 4-5 years ago a I've checked on his progress occasionally since then. He might be a bit above the theoretical £3m budget, but would probably be cheaper than Marriott was. Think I was reading he’s wanted by Huddersfield & Millwall. I also think I read that his contracts yo end of the season. Seen him twice this year, as Charlton are 2 min walk from my flat. Good pace, not bad skill, does remind me a bit of Danny Haynes to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Selred said: Think I was reading he’s wanted by Huddersfield & Millwall. I also think I read that his contracts yo end of the season. Seen him twice this year, as Charlton are 2 min walk from my flat. Good pace, not bad skill, does remind me a bit of Danny Haynes to be honest. Steven Gerrard's Rangers scouting him too apparently (just did a google) Not seen him play personally. Looks like he's got a bit of muscle, but not overly bulky, from highlights it looks like he has some pace but not extremely speedy. Would it be fair to say he's almost a Jack of all trades striker? Not blisteringly fast, but enough to cause issues. Got some muscle, but at 6 foot not a 'proper' target man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, JamesBCFC said: Steven Gerrard's Rangers scouting him too apparently (just did a google) Not seen him play personally. Looks like he's got a bit of muscle, but not overly bulky, from highlights it looks like he has some pace but not extremely speedy. Would it be fair to say he's almost a Jack of all trades striker? Not blisteringly fast, but enough to cause issues. Got some muscle, but at 6 foot not a 'proper' target man. Oh I would say he’s very quick, very direct running but you’re right a good build. Scores a good variety of goals; shots, headers and pens. I’d rather take a risk on him than the likes of Eisa personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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