Red Army 75 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 The frustration of not getting our targets and Pack leaving getting to LJ . I know we lost but seemed more pissed off than I can remember. Or is it just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan djurichimovic Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Soft pen may have contributed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: The frustration of not getting our targets and Pack leaving getting to LJ . I know we lost but seemed more pissed off than I can remember. Or is it just me Seeing as neither topic was mentioned, I'm not sure how you get to that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 I'd be pretty pissed off if he wasn't pissed off. Good honest interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Taz said: Seeing as neither topic was mentioned, I'm not sure how you get to that.... Like I said probably just me . Over analysing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneyrubble Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Exactly what it should be an honest assessment of the match. Cant stand it when it's about learning patterns of play ect. Fans will not have a problem with him being disappointed and facing up to what needs to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Much rather an honest appraisal than anything resembling 'concentrate on the league'. He obviously has high standards for the club and is frustrated if players he gives chances to don't back up his faith. Nothing wrong with that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 I only listened to the commentary on RB, but Gary Owers was more forgiving of the younger players coming in which I liked. I hope LJ is more encouraging to them away from the cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: The frustration of not getting our targets and Pack leaving getting to LJ . I know we lost but seemed more pissed off than I can remember. Or is it just me I don't read it like that. Sounds like a manager p****d off that we’re out of a cup because of a rubbish referee decision. That’s what seems to have made him most angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, RedSkin said: I only listened to the commentary on RB, but Gary Owers was more forgiving of the younger players coming in which I liked. I hope LJ is more encouraging to them away from the cameras. I’m sure he is but if these lads want regular first team football at Championship level then they’ve got to learn quickly. The obvious thing being it’s ok being great when you have the ball but you’ve got a job to do when they have it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 He wouldn't sell Pack if he didn't want to. He replaced him with Nagy who he probably prefers so don't see why that would be a problem. He's just annoyed at the ref and parts of how we played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 53 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: The frustration of not getting our targets and Pack leaving getting to LJ . I know we lost but seemed more pissed off than I can remember. Or is it just me Frustration of losing a game that we were winning... Why would he be frustrated about pack leaving when we have signed a far better player in nagy?1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Riaz said: Frustration of losing a game that we were winning... Why would he be frustrated about pack leaving when we have signed a far better player in nagy?1 Must have crossed wires on the Pack transfer. I thought I read he didn’t want to sell Pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Must have crossed wires on the Pack transfer. I thought I read he didn’t want to sell Pack I havent read that. Maybe your right? Personally i think nagy is a massive upgrade. Although he isnt a playmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 The way I took it was that LJ was annoyed at our naievity when not in possession of the ball ie. Players not back tracking, marking, doing all the basics to prevent the opposition. Attack wise he enjoyed us, but not when we didn't have the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, Riaz said: Frustration of losing a game that we were winning... Why would he be frustrated about pack leaving when we have signed a far better player in nagy?1 Annoyed that certain players didn’t carry out his instructions....without the ball. He has been moody over pre-season recruitment. To that I suggest he gets over it quickly and influences on the training ground. We have a very good set of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Riaz said: I havent read that. Maybe your right? Personally i think nagy is a massive upgrade. Although he isnt a playmaker. Looking forward to seeing him play. From highlights I’ve seen looks a player. Regarding LJ reading the comments in the thread make sense. Hope we have a more upbeat video Saturday evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Annoyed that certain players didn’t carry out his instructions....without the ball. He has been moody over pre-season recruitment. To that I suggest he gets over it quickly and influences on the training ground. We have a very good set of players. You're right Dave. And remember what happened to his predecessor. Cotterill's displeasure with the Board's transfer strategy quickly consumed his managership and nearly relegated the club. I'm sure LJ has more sense and the ability to move us forward, despite being hampered by the loss of Webster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Annoyed that certain players didn’t carry out his instructions....without the ball. He has been moody over pre-season recruitment. To that I suggest he gets over it quickly and influences on the training ground. We have a very good set of players. perhaps he's been reading the Evening Post… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 LJ went storming over to the ref in the centre circle at full time having a massive go at him, and then again after we'd lost the penalty shoot out (which I thought was probably a bit over-the-top given the quality of a couple of our penalties). McAllister was also shouting his view at the match officials as they left the pitch. It felt OTT for the Carabao cup. Interestingly I also noticed after his second haranguing of the ref, LJ immediately made a beeline for Nagy. I am very curious if he felt he should've put himself forward for a penalty before Wright, given Wright is in that seasonal mode where confidence is shot to pieces, shoulders are slumped, passes are loose. No one thought he'd score, least of all him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Football isn't Top Trumps, and even though we've improved in many areas, this team is going to need some serious time to gel - at least ten games, maybe even half a season. Most importantly, they need wins behind them, otherwise several years of building goes down the shitter and we destroy whatever confidence we had built over time. There's a lot of potential, but that's all it is right now. If this level of rebuild was needed I hope that the pressure is off of LJ and that he isn't held to the idea that we need to achieve better than 6th this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 He was clearly very frustrated at the officials which was understandable considering it never should have got as far as penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 14, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: The frustration of not getting our targets and Pack leaving getting to LJ . I know we lost but seemed more pissed off than I can remember. Or is it just me His whole body language and demeanor are different to previous interviews (even when we have lost) I'm not sure the reasons you mentioned are relevant but he is clearly very wound up about something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, Olé said: Interestingly I also noticed after his second haranguing of the ref, LJ immediately made a beeline for Nagy. I am very curious if he felt he should've put himself forward for a penalty before Wright That's a different take from mine. This is a more general observation on human behaviour, but I feel some individuals put themselves forward for things regardless of their aptitude for doing them. I've seen this in a work situation loads. Whether this is through a sense of duty (which I suspect it was with Bailey Wright) or blind self-belief despite the evidence to the contrary, or arrogance fuelled by their ego it does happen. Others despite their ability either the lack the confidence or belief to step forward. They need encouragement to do so. Bailey had a stinker by all accounts and he was poor at Birmingham. But for me there's no doubting his leadership and commitment to the cause. I do feel his motivation for stepping forward was good, but I think he should have been overruled. I guess that would be difficult if no one else felt confident. Very difficult to criticise Nagy for not stepping forward as he is so new to the club. Maybe if he'd signed sooner and been to the US with the squad and built some relationships amongst the players, he'd have felt more inclined to. I dare say he would have not have seen Bailey or any of the other lads take a penalty so difficult to gauge whether you'd be a better bet or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: The frustration of not getting our targets and Pack leaving getting to LJ . I know we lost but seemed more pissed off than I can remember. Or is it just me Unrest in the club as well...Tinnion. He's bound to be pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: Must have crossed wires on the Pack transfer. I thought I read he didn’t want to sell Pack If so I would hope the matter was taken out of his hands. He can't keep on asking the club to sign new m/f's and expect to keep the ones they've been brought in to replace. I very much doubt he wanted to keep Pack anyway, his performances had been mostly under par for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 Looks like he’s just gave them a good grilling seconds before grilled food puns inbound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: The frustration of not getting our targets and Pack leaving getting to LJ . I know we lost but seemed more pissed off than I can remember. Or is it just me Not sure how you have come to the conclusion about him being pissed off about Pack and our transfer targets? Probally more frustrated at the fact that no matter what line up we play, or what formation we go for....not a massive amount changes The same issues . The same vulnerabilities . Under LJ our game management has always been poor, and I don't believe it will change any time soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Not sure how you have come to the conclusion about him being pissed off about Pack and our transfer targets? Probally more frustrated at the fact that no matter what line up we play, or what formation we go for....not a massive amount changes The same issues . The same vulnerabilities . Under LJ our game management has always been poor, and I don't believe it will change any time soon Just felt the interview was different. Not like me to go on a tangent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCRED Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, EnderMB said: Football isn't Top Trumps, and even though we've improved in many areas, this team is going to need some serious time to gel - at least ten games, maybe even half a season. Most importantly, they need wins behind them, otherwise several years of building goes down the shitter and we destroy whatever confidence we had built over time. There's a lot of potential, but that's all it is right now. If this level of rebuild was needed I hope that the pressure is off of LJ and that he isn't held to the idea that we need to achieve better than 6th this season. I'm quite happy with the personnel in the middle and up front and options we now have. What concerns me the most is the void left by Webster leaving. If we still had him I would be confident of being in the top 6. What we have now is an inexperienced at this level CB in Moore, a CB who is injury prone and picks up a lot of cards and a CB who has hardly played in the last 12 months and cant defend or pass but us the club captain. LJ needs to find someone pretty quickly from the free agents available to plug that void otherwise we will be nowhere near the top 6. We have conceded 7 goals in 3 matches now and it appears we will be entertained this season regards attacking play but the leaky defence is back again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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