Charlie BCFC Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 This is probably a harsher decision than Famaras disallowed goal. Would never have got to that if he didn’t climb on Bakers shoulders. https://twitter.com/jbcfc_/status/1177985525824798720?s=21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Yep. Beyond me how he can allow that but disallow Diedhiou's tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 The ref went homer the second the home crowd got on his back. You can rest assured the referee assessor would have noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Could hear the chants of You don't know what your doing and To the referee 2-0 just before the five minutes of additional time was announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 some very strange decisions at the game yeaterday. from where i was the first pen was a poor decision. from what i could see he took a shot missed the ball and fell over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 The player held down Baker's shoulders and forced him to the ground, the goal should've been disallowed. But I also feel Taylor Moore fouled their keeper for our first goal, so I guess it's all fair in the end. Draw was a fair result, and what a cracking game for those who travelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, reddogkev said: The player held down Baker's shoulders and forced him to the ground, the goal should've been disallowed. But I also feel Taylor Moore fouled their keeper for our first goal, so I guess it's all fair in the end. Draw was a fair result, and what a cracking game for those who travelled. It was Daniel Johnson that pushed their keeper over. Even listening to the radio the description of the Preston goal sounded like a foul, it was really clear in the highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, reddogkev said: The player held down Baker's shoulders and forced him to the ground, the goal should've been disallowed. But I also feel Taylor Moore fouled their keeper for our first goal, so I guess it's all fair in the end. Draw was a fair result, and what a cracking game for those who travelled. I thought their own player knocked over their keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: It was Daniel Johnson that pushed their keeper over. Even listening to the radio the description of the Preston goal sounded like a foul, it was really clear in the highlights. Yeah, but that happened for our 2nd goal though. 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: I thought their own player knocked over their keeper For Weimann’s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedEyez said: Yeah, but that happened for our 2nd goal though. For Weimann’s... I can’t see how Moore has fouled the keeper for his goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, reddogkev said: The player held down Baker's shoulders and forced him to the ground, the goal should've been disallowed. But I also feel Taylor Moore fouled their keeper for our first goal, so I guess it's all fair in the end. Draw was a fair result, and what a cracking game for those who travelled. Dunno. 1st goal- maybe maybe not. If you disallow that though then giving Preston the penalty on HT shouldn't happen either. Their 3rd goal definitely should've been ruled our. If not though, disallowing Diedhiou's in that context is crap. Dunno how fair a draw was- we created a fair few more chances and of course the officials, well we didn't get an even set of big calls from. Very entertaining game though. Ultimately a good point, but felt a big chance to finally win there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Dunno. 1st goal- maybe maybe not. If you disallow that though then giving Preston the penalty on HT shouldn't happen either. Their 3rd goal definitely should've been ruled our. If not though, disallowing Diedhiou's in that context is crap. Dunno how fair a draw was- we created a fair few more chances and of course the officials, well we didn't get an even set of big calls from. Very entertaining game though. Ultimately a good point, but felt a big chance to finally win there! I would say a draw wasn’t a fair result as we were much the better side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, RedDave said: I would say a draw wasn’t a fair result as we were much the better side Not in terms of the ball, but all other areas yes! Temporary due to injuries do you think- or more of a permanent shift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Can anyone explain to me why Weimann's "goal" was disallowed for offside? When we played Boro at home they passed forward to a player in an offside position but he was deemed not offside because the ball was diverted by Taylor Moore, the Boro player then went on to score. Yesterday when Semenyo shot Weimann was in an offside position but he received the ball from the Preston keeper when he made the save, however the goal was disallowed. I can't see the difference between those two incidents yet the decisions were given different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Not in terms of the ball, but all other areas yes! Temporary due to injuries do you think- or more of a permanent shift? This season I’ve decided to watch very little Premier League football and substitute that with more Championship games. I would say that especially when we have a fully fit squad we are a top six side from everything I’ve seen so far. I struggle to name more than five teams better than us put it that way and wouldn’t have Preston in that despite their start to the season 2 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Can anyone explain to me why Weimann's "goal" was disallowed for offside? When we played Boro at home they passed forward to a player in an offside position but he was deemed not offside because the ball was diverted by Taylor Moore, the Boro player then went on to score. Yesterday when Semenyo shot Weimann was in an offside position but he received the ball from the Preston keeper when he made the save, however the goal was disallowed. I can't see the difference between those two incidents yet the decisions were given different ways. Not sure on the difference but I believe the correct decision is what was made yesterday ie it is offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, RedDave said: This season I’ve decided to watch very little Premier League football and substitute that with more Championship games. I would say that especially when we have a fully fit squad we are a top six side from everything I’ve seen so far. I struggle to name more than five teams better than us put it that way and wouldn’t have Preston in that despite their start to the season Not sure on the difference but I believe the correct decision is what was made yesterday ie it is offside After the Boro game LJ said the ref had interpreted the new offside rule correctly although it meant we lost a goal, that would make yesterday's ruling incorrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: After the Boro game LJ said the ref had interpreted the new offside rule correctly although it meant we lost a goal, that would make yesterday's ruling incorrect? Can’t remember that incident so can’t comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedDave said: This season I’ve decided to watch very little Premier League football and substitute that with more Championship games. I would say that especially when we have a fully fit squad we are a top six side from everything I’ve seen so far. I struggle to name more than five teams better than us put it that way and wouldn’t have Preston in that despite their start to the season I agree, feels like a top 6 place should be within reach. Regardless, the relative lack of possession in games is a new development- when we get a midfield 3 (hopefully!) of Brownhill, Nagy and Massengo that'll change, the control will increase etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: After the Boro game LJ said the ref had interpreted the new offside rule correctly although it meant we lost a goal, that would make yesterday's ruling incorrect? The ball en route (forward) to Assombalonga was played by TM (Don’t agree with this rule but there we are) When Semenyo shoots Weimann is offside and the ball comes back to him from the keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Out of all the decisions yesterday. There 3rd goal was the worst one . He was about 15 feet tall when he headed it in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 One of the joys of Championship football, occasional questionable decisions, and some inconsistency. Look on the bright side, way better than the sterile World of VAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I agree, feels like a top 6 place should be within reach. Regardless, the relative lack of possession in games is a new development- when we get a midfield 3 (hopefully!) of Brownhill, Nagy and Massengo that'll change, the control will increase etc. Oh I get what you mean now! I think possession is becoming less and less relevant now in football. Managers don’t seem that bothered by it. One team in league two, forget which, won by 3 goals yesterday I think with 30% possession. We had much less possession yesterday and against derby but controlled the game. 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: The ball en route (forward) to Assombalonga was played by TM (Don’t agree with this rule but there we are) When Semenyo shoots Weimann is offside and the ball comes back to him from the keeper Thanks. I remember it now. Certainly not identical incidents and both decisions correct for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 Def a foul for their third. Think both pens you have seen given but still feel the first is harsh. Maybe our first is disallowed on another day. So guess a point is fair. What I want to ask about Fam’s goal is, if it was the other way around and the defender pushed Fam similarly and he went down that theatrically, would we have gotten the penalty? I don’t think so. Fam did give a slight push but I don’t think enough to push over a 15 stone 6’4 bloke onto his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Out of all the decisions yesterday. There 3rd goal was the worst one . He was about 15 feet tall when he headed it in . That is definitely a foul! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: The ball en route (forward) to Assombalonga was played by TM (Don’t agree with this rule but there we are) When Semenyo shoots Weimann is offside and the ball comes back to him from the keeper So the offside rule is different depending on which direction the ball's travelling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I agree, feels like a top 6 place should be within reach. Regardless, the relative lack of possession in games is a new development- when we get a midfield 3 (hopefully!) of Brownhill, Nagy and Massengo that'll change, the control will increase etc. Mentioned it before but at one point last season LJ highlighted that we’d won only one game in a unbeaten run where we had more possession than the opposition and I think he had recognised that possession is not the be all and end all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, ashton_fan said: So the offside rule is different depending on which direction the ball's travelling? It’s about phases of play. Boro one was first phase then second phase Yesterday it was all one phase Its ridiculous but that’s the rule as I understand it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chappers said: One of the joys of Championship football, occasional questionable decisions, and some inconsistency. Look on the bright side, way better than the sterile World of VAR I like VAR they just use it far too much and they take away goals more than they give. Also they don’t correct clear and obvious if the ref has seen it. Which is baffling because it is why VAR is there. Needs a challenge per game per team imo. Might just get used for using it sake if a goal is scored but we will know that is it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, RedDave said: It’s about phases of play. Boro one was first phase then second phase Yesterday it was all one phase Its ridiculous but that’s the rule as I understand it So what constitutes the start of a new phase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: So the offside rule is different depending on which direction the ball's travelling? .?? The ball played forward to Assombalonga in an offside position was played by a defender on the route The ball played forward (shot) by AS was not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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