Robbored Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 A bloke near me quipped after 40mins of watching paint dry "different manager,same old City" There were murmurs of agrement all around. Smith looked good in the first half as did Fortune but the bottom line was that City failed to create one single chance in the first 45.Only Tinnion's free-kick brought a save form the Gulls 'keeper.City missed a target man and yet Miller didn't get on. It was better in the second 45 and maybe City did enough to win with chances going begging but 4-3-3 doesn't look right in my view.No width when attacking and vunerability at the back when counter attacked.Twice today the Gulls were 3 on 2 and only poor passing let them down.Against better strikers City would have been punished and probably lost the game. 3-5-2 would be a better formation.Both Murray and Anyinsah have pace and could murder most Division 1 defences.The question is though' will BT stick with the 4-3-3 at B'sley or change it?. We'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edge Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 A bloke near me quipped after 40mins of watching paint dry "different manager,same old City" There were murmurs of agrement all around. Smith looked good in the first half as did Fortune but the bottom line was that City failed to create one single chance in the first 45.Only Tinnion's free-kick brought a save form the Gulls 'keeper.City missed a target man and yet Miller didn't get on. It was better in the second 45 and maybe City did enough to win with chances going begging but 4-3-3 doesn't look right in my view.No width when attacking and vunerability at the back when counter attacked.Twice today the Gulls were 3 on 2 and only poor passing let them down.Against better strikers City would have been punished and probably lost the game. 3-5-2 would be a better formation.Both Murray and Anyinsah have pace and could murder most Division 1 defences.The question is though' will BT stick with the 4-3-3 at B'sley or change it?. We'll just have to wait and see. ← couldn't agree more! I'm afraid after listening to tins on radio bristol that we're going to stick to this formation a little while longer. Murray must have been on strict orders not to stray outside as i can't recall him doing it. I think we desperately missed someone like peacock who can hold up the ball and also win headers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 A bloke near me quipped after 40mins of watching paint dry "different manager,same old City" There were murmurs of agrement all around. Have to agree. Very disappointing - not so much the result, but the performance. We obviously flattered to deceive in the friendlies. OK - it was hot, but it was the same for both sides. OK - some of the refereeing decisions were dubious to say the least, but it was the same for both sides. Torquay came and did a job on us today. We ran out of ideas against their defence. But, having said that, we really should have won. We had enough chances, only to see them go begging - different manager, different strikers, same old finishing. Dodgy penalty aside, we played in front of their back 4 and they were happy for us to do that all afternoon. We had no width to get behind them and get some decent crosses in. And even if we had - who was there to nod them in? Woodman's corners were extremely poor and barely reached the near post, and even though Lita scored, I'm not convinced he is ready for a regular starting place. If we're going to persist with the 4-3-3 formation, we need someone with heading ability up front, such as Miller. Torquay were a poor side and, on that display, are going to struggle this season. We just played poorly and, once again, need to develop a killer instinct if we're going to be in with a shout. It's only the first game, but Tinman needs to stop the rot before it sets in - 6/10 - not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WillsbridgeRed Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Agree with 3-5-2 Dissapointed, but not suprised - Just have to laugh at all of you that thought City would suddenly be playing like brazil. No better than under Wilson, but I'm sure things will change. If not I'm sure the boo boys on here will be in fall swing my the end of september. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Agree 100% and if we carry on with this 4-3-3 #### then we're going to suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Being positive, the draw today may be a blessing in disguise. 12 months ago after that 5-0 win on opening day, so many people assumed we'd walk the division. Now we've all been reminded it is not a doddle. Interesting side note, several other teams in this div played with a front three today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Have to agree here. The thought of Murray & Anyinsah hitting the flanks will send fear into most defences. Lets hope BT learns from this 433 mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza247 Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Also in agreement with the whole 4-3-3 comments!! We had no width at all today-Tins is on about getting players out to the flanks to get in the service but unless Leroy and Murray, or whoever starts on the side of the three, get out wide and beat the defender and get a cross in...then it's not going to happen! It looked good for the first 20 minutes or so against West Brom when both Murray and Lita went wide and were skinning the full-backs. Don't understand why we were playing so narrow today?!?! Wasn't overly impressed with Leroy although his goal was a good finish. A bit disappointed that Gillespie didn't get a run out! Although we did have the chances to win the game and then if the highly-debatable(ie wrong decision!)penalty wasn't given we'd all be laughing now anyway. Sure Tins will give the 4-3-3 a couple more games for the players to adapt..Barnsley away could be interesting!! At least Tins will approach every game with a winning mentality rather than seeming to settle for the point away from home though! Time will tell..bring on the next game! Oh yeah..Torquay looked a good passing outfit today and the front two were lively. Reckon they could cause a few teams problems..although it is very early days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fct Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 4-3-3 does NOT work. Friendlies and their performances do NOT matter. Winning your first 10 games in a season does NOT guarantee promotion. One poor performance does NOT mean a bad season. Patience, wait, see what develops by the end of October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset_Cider Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Agree with 3-5-2 Dissapointed, but not suprised - Just have to laugh at all of you that thought City would suddenly be playing like brazil. No better than under Wilson, but I'm sure things will change. If not I'm sure the boo boys on here will be in fall swing my the end of september. ← Fall swing..... Is that an Autumn joke Wills I thought the penalty..... was not... the guy turned and fell over .... no contact from what I could see. I asked a couple of lads who were sitting in a different position in the ground and they said the Doc made contact, he was later reported to have said he never touched the player.. on Radio Wurzel. That's the way it looked to me too. Disappointed and I think Tinns will stick with his formation for a while and will change it if it continues to not bring results. Today was always going to be a tough opener against a team that's just gone up but in hindsight we should have won it today Oh well it's a point and not no-points eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpaul Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Dreadful. And thats being positive. All the pre season hype about fast attacking football. City ran out of ideas after no more than 15-20 minutes, against the divisions relegation favourites and whipping boys. Tinnion was so ineffective that he should have made way for Doherty, not Fortune. We looked devoid of ideas and the players didn't look comfortable with the 4-3-3 formation, with players playing out of position. It may be too early in the season to worry, but two points dropped so early ?How many points short were we last season!! Wilson was slated for his tactics, negativity and substitutions during last season. Tinnion is guilty of all this in his first game. Still, no doubt certain members of the "Wilson out" forum users will defend the performance and alay our early season worries. Not good enough 3/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 In fairness to Tinnion, he did not defend the performance when interviewed post match. This is something that Wilson constantly did. Wasn't he always praised for not getting carried away, win or lose. ###### to that, I would rather have a manager who has got a bit of passion for the game rather than one who leans on the dugout, presumably because he is nearly as bored as the fans!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bristolbred Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 Eight shots on goal and only a 1-1 draw to show for it!!!, Good job we wern't playing Colchester today!!, Craig Fagin would have put a couple past us on this sort of form!!!, Here's to Barnsley away!!, and our first defeat of the season!!!, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chrissie Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 A bloke near me quipped after 40mins of watching paint dry "different manager,same old City" There were murmurs of agrement all around. Smith looked good in the first half as did Fortune but the bottom line was that City failed to create one single chance in the first 45.Only Tinnion's free-kick brought a save form the Gulls 'keeper.City missed a target man and yet Miller didn't get on. It was better in the second 45 and maybe City did enough to win with chances going begging but 4-3-3 doesn't look right in my view.No width when attacking and vunerability at the back when counter attacked.Twice today the Gulls were 3 on 2 and only poor passing let them down.Against better strikers City would have been punished and probably lost the game. 3-5-2 would be a better formation.Both Murray and Anyinsah have pace and could murder most Division 1 defences.The question is though' will BT stick with the 4-3-3 at B'sley or change it?. We'll just have to wait and see. ← Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlokeCDP Posted August 7, 2004 Share Posted August 7, 2004 I'd personally like to see Murray and Ayinsah in Midfield, running at people and get forward, and letting the Strikers to do their job Miller/Heffernan/Gillespie/Roberts/Lita.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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