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And yet on the KITR's thread from yesterday it seems most folks want new (almost certainly foreign) investment and ownership over SL's Bristolian cash. Expect more 'commercialism' in whatever comes next... not that I won't be putting my hat in the ring for two tickets to Vegas ?

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3 minutes ago, Dunc said:

And yet on the KITR's thread from yesterday it seems most folks want new (almost certainly foreign) investment and ownership over SL's Bristolian cash. Expect more 'commercialism' in whatever comes next... not that I won't be putting my hat in the ring for two tickets to Vegas ?

Personally i don’t care who the investors are, where they come from, as long as:

1. The money is not “crooked”

2. They make good football decisions, whatever they may be.

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10 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Personally i don’t care who the investors are, where they come from, as long as:

1. The money is not “crooked”

2. They make good football decisions, whatever they may be.

How many owners are there in England's top two leagues that meet those (extremely sensible) criteria? Not being funny - would genuinely be fascinated in your perspective Dave. 

Srivaddhanaprabha at Leicester obviously comes to mind. Levy at Spurs (though their fans might challenge #2). Fenway Group seem decent enough. Gibson at Boro (question #2). West Ham extracted an extremely good deal from the Olympic stadium. Norwich seem pretty well run. 

If the taxman came calling at Brentford or Brighton owners' businesses suspect there'd be some challenges. 

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4 minutes ago, Dunc said:

How many owners are there in England's top two leagues that meet those (extremely sensible) criteria? Not being funny - would genuinely be fascinated in your perspective Dave. 

Srivaddhanaprabha at Leicester obviously comes to mind. Levy at Spurs (though their fans might challenge #2). Fenway Group seem decent enough. Gibson at Boro (question #2). West Ham extracted an extremely good deal from the Olympic stadium. Norwich seem pretty well run. 

If the taxman came calling at Brentford or Brighton owners' businesses suspect there'd be some challenges. 

 

As good an owner as he may have been, if you think Srivaddhanaprabha gained the franchise to run all Thai duty-free shops without extensive jiggery-pokery (to say the least) then you don't know how businesses operate in Thailand.

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25 minutes ago, Dunc said:

How many owners are there in England's top two leagues that meet those (extremely sensible) criteria? Not being funny - would genuinely be fascinated in your perspective Dave. 

Srivaddhanaprabha at Leicester obviously comes to mind. Levy at Spurs (though their fans might challenge #2). Fenway Group seem decent enough. Gibson at Boro (question #2). West Ham extracted an extremely good deal from the Olympic stadium. Norwich seem pretty well run. 

If the taxman came calling at Brentford or Brighton owners' businesses suspect there'd be some challenges. 

SL would be a great owner if he “bought-in” the right football expertise!

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48 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

As good an owner as he may have been, if you think Srivaddhanaprabha gained the franchise to run all Thai duty-free shops without extensive jiggery-pokery (to say the least) then you don't know how businesses operate in Thailand.

Couldn't agree more. Won't be many billionaires about that haven't been involved in jiggery-pokery... and in that benevolent billionaires club, there won't be many that want to invest into BCFC and are great at running football clubs.

That's why if our fans think we're going to get much better than SL, they might want to think about adjusting their expectations. 

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36 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

SL would be a great owner if he “bought-in” the right football expertise!

My question to you was a little different Dave. You're one of the posters on here I enjoy reading the most and have a massive amount of respect for. It was a genuinely open question about what proportion of clubs do you think meet your two criteria? And is that a realistic aim for us in a post-SL world? I'm pessimistic about our prospects (or maybe optimistic on the SL side), but you're far more educated than me on the topic I'm sure.

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9 minutes ago, Dunc said:

My question to you was a little different Dave. You're one of the posters on here I enjoy reading the most and have a massive amount of respect for. It was a genuinely open question about what proportion of clubs do you think meet your two criteria? And is that a realistic aim for us in a post-SL world? I'm pessimistic about our prospects (or maybe optimistic on the SL side), but you're far more educated than me on the topic I'm sure.

Sorry, missed that….no idea really, but stab in the dark….half.  Most will meet 1., less will meet 2. sometimes because of ego, and thinking making millions / being successful in one business translates to being successful in football.

Good “bosses” understand the importance of hiring “good people”, and not trying to do it all themselves and happy to be challenged by these people.

Allegedly Nige would’ve liked Adrian Bevington in as CEO..

Is it a realistic aim?  Yes.

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