Chris Wilder…..

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

No, it is to do with how we are perceived in football.

Look at our manager history.

I think the biggest issue currently is lack of money to invest into the squad, that would put off a lot of managers.

[GrahamC]

58 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Yes but the club has changed dramatically in the last 10 years? 

Has it?

How do you think we are viewed in the world of football?

We appointed Dean Holden recently, a bloke with 15 games in charge of a L1 club as his sole managerial experience.

We also had the shambles around Hughton, very few of our appointments in that time can be seen as ones of an ambitious club looking to get to the Prem.

Why did the likes of Jokanovic & Silva (there was a third too, but its slipped my mind) not want the job?

SL is seen as a generous benefactor who knows sod all about the game, Mark Ashton saw him coming, do you really think people like Wilder or Dyche look at our current financial situation & think that’s my next club?

[BrizzleRed]

18 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think the biggest issue currently is lack of money to invest into the squad, that would put off a lot of managers.

Trouble is Dave, that lack of money and our current FFP issues appears to be due to downright wastefulness, rather than from any overspend due to us being over-ambitious.  

Sadly, there doesn’t seem to be much here to tempt a really ambitious manager, particularly with our historical lack of success.  

We’ve all laughed at Forest, but you can put most of their crazy decisions down to an underlying yearning to achieve success.  Our decisions often feel like we’re doing things ‘on the cheap’, whilst somehow still wasting money hand over fist.
 

[robinforlife2]

2 hours ago, SecretSam said:

You mean someone who left us with zero youth players, a bunch of time-expired has beens in the squad, no vision and horrid football? Ladies and gentlemen, Mr G J, who went on to such great things...oh

I think humour is wasted on people. I was simply referring to the two managers Robbored thinks are proper managers have done precious little here ...

[exAtyeoMax]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Has it?

How do you think we are viewed in the world of football?

We appointed Dean Holden recently, a bloke with 15 games in charge of a L1 club as his sole managerial experience.

We also had the shambles around Hughton, very few of our appointments in that time can be seen as ones of an ambitious club looking to get to the Prem.

Why did the likes of Jokanovic & Silva (there was a third too, but its slipped my mind) not want the job?

SL is seen as a generous benefactor who knows sod all about the game, Mark Ashton saw him coming, do you really think people like Wilder or Dyche look at our current financial situation & think that’s my next club?

Yes it’s down to failures and decisions made by SL than how we are perceived by the wider football community. 
It’s been one shit show after another, now RG is CEO I would think we are considered a more serious prospect than some of the other clubs out there

[PHILINFRANCE]

On 09/10/2022 at 11:30, Davefevs said:

So true.

I played with two brilliant keepers.

One was mainly a “stayer”, the other was a “clear out everything”.

As CBs we were fine with both…with the stayer, we knew we’d have to attack almost everything.  With the other we just got out of his way.

The beauty with both was that they were divisive.  Even the stayer came and took balls when appropriate, but was loud and committed when he did so.

Unless the 'keepers to whom you are referring were of a breed who charge out from their goal line parting all those before them, forwards and defenders alike, a la Moses of Red Sea fame, I assume you meant they were decisive.

Many, many years ago, I used to play in a team with a goalkeeper who was both; a doctor by profession, a very large Yorkshireman who was extremely warm and gentle off the pitch, but the complete opposite when playing.

He had made it very clear when he joined the club that he considered the penalty box his territory, rightly so, and to say he commanded his area would be something of an understatement: if ever we heard 'Keeper's ball!' we all knew to make ourselves scarce.

Unfortunately, strong and capable though he was in the air, whether catching (usually) or sometimes punching clear, he was slow to get down to low shots, otherwise I am sure he would have played at a far higher level.