ADAM BAKER

[Guest]

Just saw a comment on Pearson from an Adam Baker on twitter.

Is that the former BCFC employee?

Has his NDA finished?

[GlastonburyRed]

The very, same Beanhead - he's got Ali Durden's back by the looks of it!

Edited December 18, 2022 by GlastonburyRed

[Northern Red]

I don't think an NDA would have any relevance in this instance tbh. 

Besides, he left before Pearson arrived.

[Midred]

9 minutes ago, Countryfile said:

Just saw a comment on Pearson from an Adam Baker on twitter.

Is that the former BCFC employee?

Has his NDA finished?

Link please?

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Midred said:

Link please?

Sorry not very good at links, but Glas Red above seems to think it is him.

I’m interested because I hadn’t heard anything about City from him, and assumed with all his inside info he must have agreed not to comment on BCFC.

[weepywall]

Can anyone tell me what nda means ?

[Peter1450]

Did he not get bombed out of the media department? Imagine he’s got a bit of an axe to grind ………

[Northern Red]

20 minutes ago, Midred said:

Link please?

4 minutes ago, weepywall said:

Can anyone tell me what nda means ?

Non-Disclosure Agreement

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Peter1450 said:

Did he not get bombed out of the media department? Imagine he’s got a bit of an axe to grind ………

Left by mutual consent I thought. Although it came as a surprise.

[AppyDAZE]

I once remember City being 5-0 down against Luton, with Baker co-commentating, and he wouldn't once criticise anything going on on the pitch.

I seem to remember how he was more keen to talk about the weather or something.

Oh how times have changed.

This is why I'm so much happier with Gary Owers commenting.

He tells it as it is.

Edited December 18, 2022 by AppyDAZE

[Rob k]

10 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Non-Disclosure Agreement

Tbf it was poor quality questioning 

[Davefevs]

Just a bloke having a go.  I’m sure he will be pretty pally with Ali Durden too.  Ali is pretty good in fairness, not sure it was rude or he’s been rude in interviews for a while now.  Rich Forrester (Bristol City Online) had a tough start with Nige but has gradually built rapport.

For years we wanted someone to give us honest answers.  We now get them, and we don’t like it.

[AppyDAZE]

I can't hear what Pearson does wrong to be honest.

The journalists can dish it out,  so ******* take it when you get it back.

[ralphindevon]

I’m not sure if Adam has missed Nige’s dozens of other interviews, especially after a defeat but that was just standard Nige, no ruder than any other as far as I can see.

Personally I was frustrated how Atkinson got drawn into the interview and we’re left with half a story which I feel Nige shouldn’t have said but as he did say it then Durden failed in his job to follow it up. 

[Peter1450]

Can’t agree with Adam that his mate Ali is a “ quality “ journalist, some of the inane nonsense they spout would wind any manager up, had the misfortune of watching some Robin’s TV yesterday….. I rest my case.

 

[headhunter]

13 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Just a bloke having a go.  I’m sure he will be pretty pally with Ali Durden too.  Ali is pretty good in fairness, not sure it was rude or he’s been rude in interviews for a while now.  Rich Forrester (Bristol City Online) had a tough start with Nige but has gradually built rapport.

For years we wanted someone to give us honest answers.  We now get them, and we don’t like it.

Dave, are you condoning the "throw under the bus"  implication directed as near as possible in the direction of Atkinson?

You are veering too far in your defence of Pearson! Even on FBC today we [and it was led by Ian] made a conscious effort to look at form, not just one off results with City in 14th for both the past 6 & 10 games which is just about where we reckon we "are". 

This site is going to be toxic if three weeks today we are in the bottom 3 and out of the cup.

[AppyDAZE]

10 minutes ago, Peter1450 said:

Can’t agree with Adam that his mate Ali is a “ quality “ journalist, some of the inane nonsense they spout would wind any manager up, had the misfortune of watching some Robin’s TV yesterday….. I rest my case.

 

Is this the same Ali Durden I heard recently on R. Bristol claiming the Gas are hugely supported and have a famous following?

Total bellend.

Edited December 18, 2022 by AppyDAZE

[W-S-M Seagull]

6 minutes ago, Peter1450 said:

Can’t agree with Adam that his mate Ali is a “ quality “ journalist, some of the inane nonsense they spout would wind any manager up, had the misfortune of watching some Robin’s TV yesterday….. I rest my case.

 

As Pearson said he should try asking the right questions rather than going around the bush with his questions to get the answer he wants. Why not just directly ask, why didn't Atkinson play? No need to instead ask about King to ask about Atkinson. 

I can certainly see why Pearson would be annoyed. 

[Northern Red]

6 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

I’m not sure if Adam has missed Nige’s dozens of other interviews, especially after a defeat but that was just standard Nige, no ruder than any other as far as I can see.

Personally I was frustrated how Atkinson got drawn into the interview and we’re left with half a story which I feel Nige shouldn’t have said but as he did say it then Durden failed in his job to follow it up. 

Yep. If he follows it up properly and gets awkward non-answers and snippy comments back then I don't think you can criticise him and it's Pearson who looks bad.

As it is, we've got a potentially revealing comment that wasn't expanded on which simply leads to what we've seen on here, people drawing their own conclusions to fit their view, which may prove to be correct but equally might be complete nonsense.

[Clevedon Red]

Ali is the best commentator at RB in my opinion. I don’t hear Pearson being disrespectful at all. 
 

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, headhunter said:

Dave, are you condoning the "throw under the bus"  implication directed as near as possible in the direction of Atkinson?

You are veering too far in your defence of Pearson! Even on FBC today we [and it was led by Ian] made a conscious effort to look at form, not just one off results with City in 14th for both the past 6 & 10 games which is just about where we reckon we "are". 

This site is going to be toxic if three weeks today we are in the bottom 3 and out of the cup.

It depends whether you think it’s “throwing under the bus” type of comment.  I think it’s a lazy term.

I don’t think it was a great part of the interview, but I think far too much is being made of it too.  Adam Baker thinks it is, I don’t.  Everyone seems to have ignored the “…at the moment…” which to me means Nige / Staff are working with him to try and get him back to early season form.  But that doesn’t fit the rhetoric.  It’s certainly does t appear to be “Rob Atkinson can eff off out of the club”

But I’m not Nigel Pearson, nor am I Rob Atkinson, so I’m just looking at other players, Cam Pring for example, who’s been through similar criticism when not in the side this season, who’s found a way to come back into the team and give strong contributions.

”Nige doesn’t fancy Cam”

”Cam has been thrown under the bus being left out with two RBs on the bench”

etc.

Let’s go back and see how many “warnings” Tyreeq Bakinson got before Nige lost patience.  He tries to improve players, he knows there is no easy fix.

Here’s T’s record this season in a division below:

I hope Rob follows Cam’s lead.

[exAtyeoMax]

46 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Just a bloke having a go.  I’m sure he will be pretty pally with Ali Durden too.  Ali is pretty good in fairness, not sure it was rude or he’s been rude in interviews for a while now.  Rich Forrester (Bristol City Online) had a tough start with Nige but has gradually built rapport.

For years we wanted someone to give us honest answers.  We now get them, and we don’t like it.

he was always rude to GmG though?

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

he was always rude to GmG though?

Sometimes he was…they gave each other as good as they got on occasion.  He wasn’t always rude.

[AppyDAZE]

25 minutes ago, Clevedon Red said:

Ali is the best commentator at RB in my opinion. I don’t hear Pearson being disrespectful at all. 
 

Hardly saying much, seeing as the other bloke is absolutely dreadful.

Edited December 18, 2022 by AppyDAZE

[Clevedon Red]

11 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

seeing as the other bloke is absolutely dreadful.

Hoskins or Hadwin?

[AppyDAZE]

Just now, Clevedon Red said:

Hoskins or Hadwin?

Not sure, to be honest. But there is one of them that I have heard call us Rovers on a couple of occasions.

I mean, how hard is it to know who you're watching?

[pongo88]

Let’s be honest. How many people on the forum would look forward to interviewing NP after a City defeat? It would be worse than some of crackpot challenges on I’m a (nearly) Celebrity Get me Our Of Here 

[Robbored]

1 hour ago, Rob k said:

Tbf it was poor quality questioning 

Indeed it was - Nige was asked about why Atkinson wasn’t in the squad and he gave a straight answer! That’s not throwing anyone under the bus at all.

No idea what Adam Baker was on about - maybe he has an axe to grind with BCFC…………

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said:

Is this the same Ali Durden I heard recently on R. Bristol claiming the Gas are hugely supported and have a famous following?

Total bellend.

I think Durden is a good journalist myself but there appears some unwritten rule in the local media to big Rovers up (blue “half” of Bristol myth) & repeat their lies, though I doubt that he actually said “hugely supported”.

 

[AppyDAZE]

5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I think Durden is a good journalist myself but there appears some unwritten rule in the local media to big Rovers up (blue “half” of Bristol myth) & repeat their lies, though I doubt that he actually said “hugely supported”.

 

And again, as usual huge support for Rovers on their travels.

I think they must think we're all thick or something.

Yes, he's been around a long time and he does his job,  but bigging up Rovers is something he really likes to do, believe me.

It would be interesting to know if he does actually favour any of the Bristol sides.

 

Edited December 18, 2022 by AppyDAZE

[W-S-M Seagull]

24 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Indeed it was - Nige was asked about why Atkinson wasn’t in the squad and he gave a straight answer! That’s not throwing anyone under the bus at all.

No idea what Adam Baker was on about - maybe he has an axe to grind with BCFC…………

Maybe a bit bitter than since his departure our media team has excelled? 

[Robbored]

15 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Maybe a bit bitter than since his departure our media team has excelled? 

Yep - that’s my point.

[Lanterne Rouge]

It still makes me far more angry than it should that the blue few still got equal coverage to us when they were non-league

[redsquirrel]

2 hours ago, Clevedon Red said:

Ali is the best commentator at RB in my opinion. I don’t hear Pearson being disrespectful at all. 
 

so can we play him there and put Andi back up top please

[Bristol Oil Services]

3 hours ago, AppyDAZE said:

Is this the same Ali Durden I heard recently on R. Bristol claiming the Gas are hugely supported and have a famous following?

 

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

I think Durden is a good journalist myself but there appears some unwritten rule in the local media to big Rovers up (blue “half” of Bristol myth) & repeat their lies, though I doubt that he actually said “hugely supported”.

 

 

1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said:

And again, as usual huge support for Rovers on their travels.

I think they must think we're all thick or something.

Yes, he's been around a long time and he does his job,  but bigging up Rovers is something he really likes to do, believe me.

It would be interesting to know if he does actually favour any of the Bristol sides.

 

He does what he has to do to have as "quiet" a working life as he can. If he actually "tells it like it is" in Bristol, he'll just have them squealing at him and one or two threatening to burn his house down, or something. 

[David Brent]

Yeah yeah but how did he get the nickname ‘Beanhead’? 

[eardun]

6 hours ago, weepywall said:

Can anyone tell me what nda means ?

Wrong DNA

[REDOXO]

6 hours ago, Northern Red said:

Non-Disclosure Agreement

 

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Just a bloke having a go.  I’m sure he will be pretty pally with Ali Durden too.  Ali is pretty good in fairness, not sure it was rude or he’s been rude in interviews for a while now.  Rich Forrester (Bristol City Online) had a tough start with Nige but has gradually built rapport.

For years we wanted someone to give us honest answers.  We now get them, and we don’t like it.

As above. After Years of LJ dopple bollox. That Baker said nothing of! 

The bloke is manager and tells it the way he sees it, as he did with Leicester, some of those interview responses make that nursery standard by comparison!

Im sure Mr Baker did have something of a non compete (NDA is something different really but that’s splitting hairs)

Adam Baker like others is entitled to state any opinion he likes providing he is not being paid not to! If he chooses to say something in support of Mr Durden that’s fine, but it makes Durden look like a cry baby and doesn’t help him journalisticly as nothing was directed at Durden. Baker really should have shut up, but I support his right to make his mate look like a big girls blouse. Free speech is a great thing  

However

Clearly Atkinson has pissed Pearson, somehow, off at some point during the World Cup period and Pearson doesn’t care who knows it. Particularly Atkinson. 

[Ron W]

6 hours ago, pongo88 said:

Let’s be honest. How many people on the forum would look forward to interviewing NP after a City defeat? It would be worse than some of crackpot challenges on I’m a (nearly) Celebrity Get me Our Of Here 

Exactly this. It sounds a lot easier than it is. Ali has done stints on 5 Live, he's a very good journalist. Why does he go softly-softly on the King question? Because it's after a defeat and Pearson can be volatile. Why doesn't he then push it? Because Pearson clearly doesn't want to go into more detail than "it's about trust".

I don't think Nigel's made Ali look bad with his attitude though.

[W-S-M Seagull]

1 hour ago, RonWalker said:

Exactly this. It sounds a lot easier than it is. Ali has done stints on 5 Live, he's a very good journalist. Why does he go softly-softly on the King question? Because it's after a defeat and Pearson can be volatile. Why doesn't he then push it? Because Pearson clearly doesn't want to go into more detail than "it's about trust".

I don't think Nigel's made Ali look bad with his attitude though.

Pearson goes into interviews with an idea of what he wants to say. Like about the poor referees for example. 

Pearson clearly wanted to talk about Atkinson yet Ali failed to ask him about him so Pearson had to push him himself to get him to ask about him so Pearson could say what he wanted to say about Atkinson. Poor journalism imo because he struggled to get information out of Pearson that Pearson was willing to give and even when Pearson was very open to talking about it, Ali then failed to get him to elaborate or even ask further questions. 

[nebristolred]

I think in isolation it would be fine, you could put it down to him being in a bad mood, but for some Pearson's reputation will precede him. It's not that long ago where he had that episode when trying to belittle a journalist, before being absolutely put in his place by Pat Murphy. Of course in some cases it may be justified, but Ali Durden has never struck me as anything other than a pretty fair and easy going interviewer, and we don't really know what's happened off camera or in previous interviews either.

I'm a fan of Nige, and I'm grateful that he says things as they are. That doesn't mean you need to try to put down people who are just doing their job. But I will agree with some in that if this is literally the only instance of it, the reaction is definitely overkill.

[Robbored]

5 hours ago, nebristolred said:

I think in isolation it would be fine, you could put it down to him being in a bad mood, but for some Pearson's reputation will precede him. It's not that long ago where he had that episode when trying to belittle a journalist, before being absolutely put in his place by Pat Murphy. Of course in some cases it may be justified, but Ali Durden has never struck me as anything other than a pretty fair and easy going interviewer, and we don't really know what's happened off camera or in previous interviews either.

I'm a fan of Nige, and I'm grateful that he says things as they are. That doesn't mean you need to try to put down people who are just doing their job. But I will agree with some in that if this is literally the only instance of it, the reaction is definitely overkill.

So am I.

I like any manager who has an ‘edge’. They’re usually very honest to the point of being blunt and Nige fits well into that department.

He’s 100% a football man and can get irritated by non football journalists asking naive questions - just as SoD did who as we know was far more difficult to interview than Nige is.

I get that pressers and post match reactions are an integral part of any managers remit and that Nige has certainly in the past made life difficult for journalists but personally I don’t have the slightest problem with that.

 

 

 

 

[B-Rizzle]

Pearson loves talking about trust. He might be able to trust King as a person but he can’t trust him to defend a high ball, that much is evident.

Don’t care what Atkinson/ Klose have done. Continually playing King at CB is suicide. Man has lost the plot. 

Pearson out.

[frenchred]

12 minutes ago, Robbored said:

So am I.

I like any manager who has an ‘edge’. They’re usually very honest to the point of being blunt and Nige fits well into that department.

He’s 100% a football man and can get irritated by non football journalists asking naive questions - just as SoD did who as we know was far more difficult to interview than Nige is.

I get that pressers and post match reactions are an integral part of any managers remit and that Nige has certainly in the past made life difficult for journalists but personally I don’t have the slightest problem with that.

 

 

 

 

A proper manager does not continue to select his mates to the detriment of the club.

Clueless, time to go

[Robbored]

2 minutes ago, frenchred said:

A proper manager does not continue to select his mates to the detriment of the club.

Clueless, time to go

You don’t seem to understand what Nige is actually saying Frenchfred. 

Any manager will tell you that he has to trust any player to deliver on the pitch and in Nige’s eyes Atkinson has not delivered what the manager wants.

Having worked with King previously Nige knows what level of performance he’ll get from him - he trusts him to deliver and why he played him ahead of Atkinson.

However the paid City pundit doesn’t agree - https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-pearsons-lack-responsibility-divides-7944515

[B-Rizzle]

40 minutes ago, Robbored said:

You don’t seem to understand what Nige is actually saying Frenchfred. 

Any manager will tell you that he has to trust any player to deliver on the pitch and in Nige’s eyes Atkinson has not delivered what the manager wants.

Having worked with King previously Nige knows what level of performance he’ll get from him - he trusts him to deliver and why he played him ahead of Atkinson.

However the paid City pundit doesn’t agree - https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-pearsons-lack-responsibility-divides-7944515

Absolute tosh.

Atkinson hasn’t been that bad this season (we’ve actually seen some v good performances). Don’t care what’s happened in training but as my post above says, Pearson’s stubbornness is making us lose games.

This trust chat is a load of nonsense. We’re not talking about who you trust to be a reliable person we’re talking about who you trust to defend effectively at centre half in the Championship. The fact that Pearson thinks King is a valid, sustained option there says it all.

”Look how bad my 2 centre half’s (that I signed) are - I’m going to have to play trustworthy Andy King there instead. That will work.”

 

[Ron W]

6 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Pearson goes into interviews with an idea of what he wants to say. Like about the poor referees for example. 

Pearson clearly wanted to talk about Atkinson yet Ali failed to ask him about him so Pearson had to push him himself to get him to ask about him so Pearson could say what he wanted to say about Atkinson. Poor journalism imo because he struggled to get information out of Pearson that Pearson was willing to give and even when Pearson was very open to talking about it, Ali then failed to get him to elaborate or even ask further questions. 

I wouldn't call him very open. He tells Ali he's not asking the right question, then when he asks directly why Atkinson isn't in the squad, gives what to me comes across as quite a smart Alec retort, which beyond stating the bleeding obvious certainly isn't insightful. 

"Why's Rob Atkinson not in the squad?"

"Because other players are ahead of him. Simple as that. There you go."

Even when pressed further, he will only mention trust, and then talk indirectly about players not being selected rather than Atkinson in particular.

If he genuinely had any intention of answering the question he'd tried to cajole Ali into asking, he definitely would've done it with those two answers.

Edited December 19, 2022 by RonWalker

[1960maaan]

Being a Journo can be a political role, many over the years have been banned, ostracised and ignored for perceived slights on a Manager or Club. Some then go the other way and try and make it easy for the Manager or you end up getting boring inane questions. Pearson will answer the same question from the Club's Media differently to the "Press". There have been a few time post match, I thought NP might bite when a good question has been asked, he's been very good TBF, at a time just after the game where it can be very hard. Then watch the Pre/Post interview with the Press and he can be very sarcastic or snappy at the slightest thing. Now , I don't care about this, personally I think there are too many interviews and specially the ones directly after a game should be binned.
That said;

Durden : "the fact that King could have won the header for the Stoke equaliser has it given Pearson "food for thought about his role in that position?"

Is a fair question and one many would have asked. The reply just seems stroppy and more to do with not liking the question than giving the reply.

Pearson said no, no that it hadn’t and the fact that he is "picking a midfield player ahead of centre-backs tells you how he views the squad at the moment and to, make of that what you will... I don’t care".

Atkinson had been a virtual ever present until illness, so I don't buy the "not trusted" line. We know players fall out of favour, fair enough, and TBF he picks the bench on a game by game reasoning. The bench Saturday had 2 Fb's, one of which could play CB if needed. The other could allow Pring to play LCB. I think this could have been some of the thinking as he's done it before, it allows the option of 3 forwards to make the bench. 
Everyone coming out of the Gate Saturday were in different states of strop, ask any of the question to anyone and taking out the swear words they would have probably said half the team should never play again, it's knee jerk. Pearson strikes me as similar, but he also strikes me as someone that will stick with King to prove a point that he didn't intend to make. 
I stopped listening to most of the Pressers as he annoys me with some of the relays which can seem petty, I might be taking it completely wrong, but that's why I don't bother for the most part. 
Whether Durden is good or not doesn't really mean anything in this story, I think it's a valid question. Who on here wouldn't think that Atkinson either stands his ground and doesn't get bullied like King, or wins the header? It's Pearson's petulant reply that leaves me ignoring much of the press they put out now. I'll read the info and check the team sheet online. Not all Pearson's fault , ut he doesn't help himself.b

[frenchred]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

You don’t seem to understand what Nige is actually saying Frenchfred. 

Any manager will tell you that he has to trust any player to deliver on the pitch and in Nige’s eyes Atkinson has not delivered what the manager wants.

Having worked with King previously Nige knows what level of performance he’ll get from him - he trusts him to deliver and why he played him ahead of Atkinson.

However the paid City pundit doesn’t agree - https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-pearsons-lack-responsibility-divides-7944515

I think you are being blinded by bullshit! The only thing he can trust "kingy" for at CB is at least one mistake a game on average, often costing us points.

Atkinson it could be argued was our best defender by far prior to the break, maybe the manager is finding it difficult to manage

[GrahamC]

8 hours ago, RonWalker said:

Exactly this. It sounds a lot easier than it is. Ali has done stints on 5 Live, he's a very good journalist. Why does he go softly-softly on the King question? Because it's after a defeat and Pearson can be volatile. Why doesn't he then push it? Because Pearson clearly doesn't want to go into more detail than "it's about trust".

I don't think Nigel's made Ali look bad with his attitude though.

Really good post.

Unlike many on here I’m not in the Pearson out camp, but do think he’s painting himself into a corner re Atkinson.

It does us no good at all to have one of our better central defenders (a low bar) completely excluded from the squad in the absence of Kalas & when we struggle defensively, though I would just point out to those now piling on Andy King that we had conceded 1 goal in 2 games prior to Saturday with him at CB, so although he was clearly badly at fault for the first, you can understand why NP had started with him.

However Atkinson now needs to either be re-integrated into the squad or moved on in January & replaced.

We simply don’t have the quality or the numbers just to sideline him.

[firstdivision]

1 hour ago, B-Rizzle said:

Pearson loves talking about trust. He might be able to trust King as a person but he can’t trust him to defend a high ball, that much is evident.

Don’t care what Atkinson/ Klose have done. Continually playing King at CB is suicide. Man has lost the plot. 

Pearson out.

‘Pearson loves talking about trust. He might be able to trust King as a person but he can’t trust him to defend a high ball, that much is evident.’

One of the best comments I have read on here following NP’s interview. 

Looking forward to seeing NP trust King under Millwall’s high-ball barrage on 29 Dec.

Edited December 19, 2022 by firstdivision

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, frenchred said:

I think you are being blinded by bullshit! The only thing he can trust "kingy" for at CB is at least one mistake a game on average, often costing us points.

Atkinson it could be argued was our best defender by far prior to the break, maybe the manager is finding it difficult to manage

That is such horseshit, King had prior to Saturday made very few errors at CB, hence the clean sheet v Watford & the win at Rotherham.

Most people would also probably say Vyner has been our most consistent CB this season, a real sickener for his haters on here.

Atkinson would be in my side but very few would claim he’s been our best defender “by far” that’s nonsense.

[frenchred]

Just now, GrahamC said:

That is such horseshit, King had prior to Saturday made very few errors at CB, hence the clean sheet v Watford & the win at Rotherham.

Most people would also probably say Vyner has been our most consistent CB this season, a real sickener for his haters on here.

Atkinson would be in my side but very few would claim he’s been our best defender “by far” that’s nonsense.

Absolute bollocks, king is an accident waiting to happen, he should be nowhere near the first team in any position, only gets in as he's Pearson's mate. Vyner should have been centre back in the middle and plenty of choice to play either side of him

 

 

 

 

 

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, frenchred said:

Absolute bollocks, king is an accident waiting to happen, he should be nowhere near the first team in any position, only gets in as he's Pearson's mate. Vyner should have been centre back in the middle and plenty of choice to play either side of him

 

 

 

 

 

So he bluffed a clean sheet v Watford when he marked Keinan Davis out of the game & the win last week at Rotherham then?

[frenchred]

3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

So he bluffed a clean sheet v Watford when he marked Keinan Davis out of the game & the win last week at Rotherham then?

Yeah nothing to do with anyone else just Pearson's mate

[B-Rizzle]

4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

So he bluffed a clean sheet v Watford when he marked Keinan Davis out of the game & the win last week at Rotherham then?

He didn’t “mark Keinan Davis out of the game.” Watford were rubbish that day. King did fine, in fairness, but wasn’t tested as a defender. Now he is being tested we’re seeing he’s not a centre back, astonishingly.

[Guest]

You didn't need to be a centre back to stop those two goals going in, you just needed to be awake and get the frickin job done.

[Super]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

You don’t seem to understand what Nige is actually saying Frenchfred. 

Any manager will tell you that he has to trust any player to deliver on the pitch and in Nige’s eyes Atkinson has not delivered what the manager wants.

Having worked with King previously Nige knows what level of performance he’ll get from him - he trusts him to deliver and why he played him ahead of Atkinson.

However the paid City pundit doesn’t agree - https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-pearsons-lack-responsibility-divides-7944515

A low level of performance. Pearson is the only person who would pick King ahead of Atkinson at CB

[marmite]

17 hours ago, weepywall said:

Can anyone tell me what nda means ?

It refers to half our squad. Not Doing Anything.

[Clutton Caveman]

17 hours ago, ralphindevon said:

I’m not sure if Adam has missed Nige’s dozens of other interviews, especially after a defeat but that was just standard Nige, no ruder than any other as far as I can see.

Personally I was frustrated how Atkinson got drawn into the interview and we’re left with half a story which I feel Nige shouldn’t have said but as he did say it then Durden failed in his job to follow it up. 

One constant thread. Its never his fault

[Big C]

50 minutes ago, B-Rizzle said:

He didn’t “mark Keinan Davis out of the game.” Watford were rubbish that day. King did fine, in fairness, but wasn’t tested as a defender. Now he is being tested we’re seeing he’s not a centre back, astonishingly.

Its funny when we do well against a team they are rubbish but when a team does well against us we are rubbish. There seems to be no correlation between the fact that Watford were rubbish because we defended so well

[2015]

I'm glad Adam Baker is no longer employed by the club after that Tweet. 

[SuperFly2002]

19 hours ago, weepywall said:

Can anyone tell me what nda means ?

Non Disclosure Agreement (gagging order)

[Miah Dennehy]

17 hours ago, AppyDAZE said:

And again, as usual huge support for Rovers on their travels.

I think they must think we're all thick or something.

Yes, he's been around a long time and he does his job,  but bigging up Rovers is something he really likes to do, believe me.

It would be interesting to know if he does actually favour any of the Bristol sides.

 

Well of course he does, we are everybody's favourite other team.

[tin]

A couple of points from me:

1) Atkinson’s best form came when he was deployed to the left of Naismith earlier in the season. I see no reason why Atkinson couldn’t reach those levels again not Naismith is fit. 

2) Apologies if this has been mentioned already, and certainly no disrespect to Ali Durden, but Nige has gone on record saying he “wants defenders who can defend”, so there’s an obvious question he should’ve asked regarding King’s selection. King is not, and never will be, a CB. 

[Roe]

I don't have an issue as such with Pearson's response.

It more falls down to a poor judgement call if he really trusted King more than Atkinson. 

The organisation of our defence has been terrible for a long time (even before Pearson).

Strangely Nigel often seems to not do anything about it. Ie:

The insistence that "we have to play 3 at the back"

Playing strikers at wing back

Selecting King over either Klose or Atkinson when available

Frequently changing keepers..

There's a long list of questionable decisions

[Robbored]

3 hours ago, Super said:

A low level of performance. Pearson is the only person who would pick King ahead of Atkinson at CB

Nige is sending Atkinson a message - up your game or I’ll continue to leave you out - it’s very simple.

I sure Nige has explained that personally to RA - something along the lines of “impress at training and I’ll consider you”

[exAtyeoMax]

21 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Nige is sending Atkinson a message - up your game or I’ll continue to leave you out - it’s very simple.

I sure Nige has explained that personally to RA - something along the lines of “impress at training and I’ll consider you”

CoD always shone in training…

[AppyDAZE]

3 hours ago, 2015 said:

I'm glad Adam Baker is no longer employed by the club after that Tweet. 

Had he still been employed by the club, he wouldn't say boo to a goose.

[Davefevs]

5 hours ago, RonWalker said:

I wouldn't call him very open. He tells Ali he's not asking the right question, then when he asks directly why Atkinson isn't in the squad, gives what to me comes across as quite a smart Alec retort, which beyond stating the bleeding obvious certainly isn't insightful. 

"Why's Rob Atkinson not in the squad?"

"Because other players are ahead of him. Simple as that. There you go."

Even when pressed further, he will only mention trust, and then talk indirectly about players not being selected rather than Atkinson in particular.

If he genuinely had any intention of answering the question he'd tried to cajole Ali into asking, he definitely would've done it with those two answers.

There speaketh an actual journo!

I’m with @GrahamC, I wouldn’t be picking King at CB, assuming Atkinson is fit and ready to play, but it’s also very easy to ignore the two previous games where he played a full part in 4 points from those games including an elusive clean sheet against a very good side (on paper).  In saying that I don’t forget Birmingham (a) either, but that was in a shit team performance.  So in summary we are gonna get a bit of a mixed bag from King playing there.

The question for Nige is whether that mixed bag is better than anyone else’s mixed bag, because nobody has been consistent this season.  Perversely, Atkinson has probably been the steadiest / most consistent.  But “at the mo” (Nige quote) he’s not ahead of others.

I think it’s a big fuss…not over nothing admittedly, but still a big fuss.