Not a penalty, but…

[formerly known as ivan]

Think we had the ref on our side for when Wells scored. Seen it a few times now, first thought it was shoulder to shoulder but the more I see it the more convinced I am that Wells trips the defender. Clever play maybe.

It that goal is scored against us we’d be fuming the free kick wasn’t given.

[MarcusX]

2 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Think we had the ref on our side for when Wells scored. Seen it a few times now, first thought it was shoulder to shoulder but the more I see it the more convinced I am that Wells trips the defender. Clever play maybe.

It that goal is scored against us we’d be fuming the free kick wasn’t given.

Watching With a mate who is neutral and he said that’s a foul. I’m surprised it wasn’t given really

[milo1111]

I was surprised it wasn’t given but if any team in the entire solar system deserves that decision……

[ExiledAjax]

I thought it was pretty well refereed today. Largely let the game flow, got most of his calls correct. Don't remember much cause for concern.

And yeh he got the call correct before Wells scored.

[Super]

Has anyone seen a replay of their second goal? He looked miles offside.

[GrahamC]

2 minutes ago, Super said:

Has anyone seen a replay of their second goal? He looked miles offside.

Did to me too, was very surprised at the lack of complaints. Expect there would have been far more if it was 2-1 at the time.

Thought it was a clear push by Wells for the second, to be fair, too.

[Super]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

Did to me too, was very surprised at the lack of complaints. Expect there would have been far more if it was 2-1 at the time.

Thought it was a clear push by Wells for the second, to be fair, too.

The lino was nowhere near in line. I was sure he was a few yards offside.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

9 minutes ago, Super said:

The lino was nowhere near in line. I was sure he was a few yards offside.

Yes felt both offside and push . But hey take it when goes our way. And yeah felt the referee let the game flow  and bestcseen in a while. Which does not say much for normal dross referees 

[Vidal]

Never a foul. Long made a right mess of it

[Loosey Boy]

We got away with one there but we’ve deserved a bit of luck

Well played Nahki

[AppyDAZE]

1 hour ago, milo1111 said:

I was surprised it wasn’t given but if any team in the entire solar system deserves that decision……

Yeah, but Neptune has never been awarded a penalty in its entire history and there are others too.

[milo1111]

2 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Yeah, but Neptune has never been awarded a penalty in its entire history and there are others too.

They’ve had more than us

[Mr Popodopolous]

Going to watch the couple of incidents back later hut given a) The penalty run and b) The general poor officiating (penalty against at Hull, only Sykes being penalised, no Bennett red etc etc) I can accept a little bit of luck here.

[1960maaan]

I was amazed it wasn't given as a FK, we haven't got that sort of "rub of the green" for an age. I didn't even celebrate to start as I was that sure it was going to be brought back.  I thought the Ref was ok for most of the game then went back to factory setting for the last 15 mins.

I would have been gutted if they'd scored that and the Ref hadn't cancelled it.

[Mr Popodopolous]

2 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I was amazed it wasn't given as a FK, we haven't got that sort of "rub of the green" for an age. I didn't even celebrate to start as I was that sure it was going to be brought back.  I thought the Ref was ok for most of the game then went back to factory setting for the last 15 mins.

I would have been gutted if they'd scored that and the Ref hadn't cancelled it.

Yeah same. I was holding my breath thinking 'are we sure'...fortunately this one for once went our way! I didn't celebrate until I was absolutely sure though.

[Davefevs]

If you watch it, Long isn’t really too aware of where the ball or Wells is.  He’s on a yellow already and knows if he dives he might get a second yellow.  Wells has done little wrong imho, leant into him and he was poorly balanced.  I’m sure some refs give a free kick, but I think it was fine.

Definite penalty.

Thought ref made some very poor decisions throughout.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Watched it just now on EFL highlights on ITV4. I think it would have been harsh to disallow tbh, leaning towards 50-50.

[Harry]

4 hours ago, Super said:

Has anyone seen a replay of their second goal? He looked miles offside.

Nah i didn’t think so. 
From where I was it appeared we had a disjointed back line. Tanner was high, Vyner high, but Atkinson was deeper and I think played him onside. 
Just one of those switch off moments where the ball was turned over and quickly played forward and we were out of shape 

[Alex_BCFC]

Having seen the highlights their lad looks comfortably onside.

Wells one can go either way but good to get one of those. 

[W-S-M Seagull]

With the new rules it absolutely was not a foul by Wells. He simply out muscled the man. 

[petehinton]

It’s not a foul, Long was made to look a fool all day. Absolute litter defender. 

[2015]

As soon as the defender let the ball bounce he was in trouble and was off balance. Not a foul imo

[BS13 Robin]

Long was the only Birmingham player to appeal for it as well,which would normally tell you it wasnt a foul

[formerly known as ivan]

1 minute ago, BS13 Robin said:

Long was the only Birmingham player to appeal for it as well,which would normally tell you it wasnt a foul

I think that was more to do with it looking shoulder to shoulder at the time. Watching it again Nahki definitely trips him. Not that we care mind you!

Anyone think the complaint to the FA could have played any part in the refs thinking? I guess this is the sort of thing we wanted out of it, putting the pressure on official to give us more favourable decisions.

[BS13 Robin]

1 minute ago, formerly known as ivan said:

I think that was more to do with it looking shoulder to shoulder at the time. Watching it again Nahki definitely trips him. Not that we care mind you!

Anyone think the complaint to the FA could have played any part in the refs thinking? I guess this is the sort of thing we wanted out of it, putting the pressure on official to give us more favourable decisions.

Yeah you could be right looking at it again.

[Cityboy1954]

6 hours ago, ExiledAjax said:

I thought it was pretty well refereed today. Largely let the game flow, got most of his calls correct. Don't remember much cause for concern.

And yeh he got the call correct before Wells scored.

But the lino Dolman side was shit 

[marcofisher]

Watching from the touch line that fed Kahdra through, I though Sykes was fouled in the build up when the ball was won off him before Khadra was fed through. 

[Super]

9 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said:

Having seen the highlights their lad looks comfortably onside.

Wells one can go either way but good to get one of those. 

Yep watching it back he looked onside. Lino still lucky as he was nowhere  near in line.

[Mike Stone]

14 hours ago, Super said:

Has anyone seen a replay of their second goal? He looked miles offside.

Timed his run perfectly,  I was sat right in line with it.

[CHAZ MICHAELS]

Looked a foul on Long to me - I think we'd be raging if that happened to us.

Nevertheless, great finish by Wells and about time we had a favourable decision or two.

[LondonBristolian]

12 hours ago, AppyDAZE said:

Yeah, but Neptune has never been awarded a penalty in its entire history and there are others too.

Someone has a short memory. Saturn v Neptune in the SpaceX Interplanetary trophy last March. Utterly blatant dive by the Neptune striker but the ref pointed straight to the spot.

Of course, the penalty was skied into orbit and Saturn went onto win 4-1, which may be why you have forgotten it.

[Red-Robbo]

8 hours ago, Cityboy1954 said:

But the lino Dolman side was shit 

 

Indeedy. He was totally out of position and therefore missed their offside goal, then there was the time he flagged Semenyo offside in the first half, when Antoine had three blue shirts between him and goal. No other City player was as far advanced, so I can only assume the official had some sort of blindness that made him unable to see the colour blue!

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Indeedy. He was totally out of position and therefore missed their offside goal, then there was the time he flagged Semenyo offside in the first half, when Antoine had three blue shirts between him and goal. No other City player was as far advanced, so I can only assume the official had some sort of blindness that made him unable to see the colour blue!

Mysteriously gave Rob Atkinson offside in similar circumstances too.

[downendcity]

Viewing the incident on the "normal" match coverage camera it looked a foul by Wells.

However, when looking at it on the camera behind the goal ( so head on) Long had his left arm  across Wells trying to impede him ( should be a foul, but too often missed or let go by referees) and Wells just outmuscled the defender. 

Had the defender not extended his arm, then the ref might Well have penalised Wells.

[Davefevs]

38 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Viewing the incident on the "normal" match coverage camera it looked a foul by Wells.

However, when looking at it on the camera behind the goal ( so head on) Long had his left arm  across Wells trying to impede him ( should be a foul, but too often missed or let go by referees) and Wells just outmuscled the defender. 

Had the defender not extended his arm, then the ref might Well have penalised Wells.

I imagine the club with do a red zone video tomorrow seeing as we won. They’ve already posted the behind goal angle on Twitter this morning.

Long run backwards shows he’s not really picked up the line of Naismith’s header, nor has he any clue of where Wells is. All Wells really does is gain half a yard on Long and get his body on a better line to chase the ball than Long. Once Wells has done that, Long either decides to try to run alongside him and put him off, or try to go on the line if the ball. Essentially he runs into the back of Wells.  And that is the key for me as to why it wasn’t a foul. 

[ExiledAjax]

4 hours ago, LondonBristolian said:

blatant dive by the Neptune striker

Would you expect anything less from the god of the sea?

[Davefevs]

57 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I imagine the club with do a red zone video tomorrow seeing as we won. They’ve already posted the behind goal angle on Twitter this morning.

Long run backwards shows he’s not really picked up the line of Naismith’s header, nor has he any clue of where Wells is. All Wells really does is gain half a yard on Long and get his body on a better line to chase the ball than Long. Once Wells has done that, Long either decides to try to run alongside him and put him off, or try to go on the line if the ball. Essentially he runs into the back of Wells.  And that is the key for me as to why it wasn’t a foul. 

 

[shelts]

18 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

 I thought the Ref was ok for most of the game then went back to factory setting for the last 15 mins.

It’s kinda what they get told to do !

[kit]

Was Semenyo offside for the one late on? I was in the south stand and also not concentrating on whether semenyo might be off or not. The ball bounced and span a bit but no city player touched it after the initial ball. I assume he was well off though originally.

My main gripe with that though is the challenge on Semenyo irrespective of being offside or not was a bit of a shocker,  their guy lunged from behind and landed on Semenyo's ankle nowhere near getting the ball, really should have been a booking irrespective of offsides.

Agree with the earlier point about the ref being poor in the last 15, he really was just making consistantly poor decisions having been fine for most of the rest of the game.