A9 entrance disturbance

[AG City]

Just after the game there seemed to be a disturbance in the stairwell of A9 next to section 82. Lots of children screaming and two women visibly upset. Hope everyone was ok? 

[James54De]

It’s was a knobhead steward, again. Yes, fine, kids Al should not run on the pitch. Yes, the club have said things before. However, not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Steward should have known when to step away to diffuse any situation. 

[RedRobin96]

2 minutes ago, James54De said:

It’s was a knobhead steward, again. Yes, fine, kids Al should not run on the pitch. Yes, the club have said things before. However, not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Steward should have known when to step away to diffuse any situation. 

At the end of the day he was just doing his job, the dad shouldn’t have let his kid run into the pitch; actions have consequences 

The poor bloke then got twatted round the head by a bunch of thugs 

Bit of a disgraceful end to a good result 

[James54De]

1 minute ago, RedRobin96 said:

At the end of the day he was just doing his job, the dad shouldn’t have let his kid run into the pitch; actions have consequences 

The poor bloke then got twatted round the head by a bunch of thugs 

Bit of a disgraceful end to a good result 

Steward should have known when to walk away. Was not a serious problem, yet he made it one. 

[MrBibs]

The young kid seemed to get away and then came back round and into the section again, just as it was seeming to calm down.

[Loco Rojo]

16 minutes ago, James54De said:

It’s was a knobhead steward, again. Yes, fine, kids Al should not run on the pitch. Yes, the club have said things before. However, not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Steward should have known when to step away to diffuse any situation. 

Or perhaps parent/s should learn to control their kids and stop them from running on the pitch.  Always someone elses fault though right.

[Laner]

One kid does it and they'll all be running on in future games. Not condoning the stewarding as I didn't see it but it can't be overlooked.

[06stanleyj]

You shouldn't be on the pitch, simple as that. If you break the rules, accept the consequences. Too many idiots getting involved afterwards, young black steward (not meant as racist, just a description of him) came over to help his colleagues & he just got pushed & threatened by the so called "supporters ". I hope every one of you get picked out by the cctv & get banned, don't need your type in the ground.

Edited February 11, 2023 by 06stanleyj

[BUTOR]

Issue in A Block today too. I like the movement and the effort but some of those kids are proper nasty shits 

[The Bard]

Steward should be sacked. Does not have the authority to manhandle a child. 

Whoever assaulted him should be banned. 

As for those outraged by a child running on the pitch, get a grip. We all used to it.

Embarrassing from all involved 

[sticks 1969]

Fair play the way he fist pumped the air as he was walking off I think he was genuinely pleased we had won 

[Barrs Court Red]

1 minute ago, Bouncearoundtheground said:

Issue in A Block today too. I like the movement and the effort but some of those kids are proper nasty shits 

I noticed lots of stewards up there, would be a shame if a few idiots ruin it

[The Bard]

4 minutes ago, 06stanleyj said:

You shouldn't be on the pitch, simple as that. If you break the rules, accept the consequences. Too many idiots getting involved afterwards, young black steward (not meant as racist, just a description of him) came over to help his colleagues & he just got pushed & threatened by the so called "supporters ". I hope every one of you get picked out by the cctv & get banned, don't need your type in the ground.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Says a lot about the competence of stewards generally that he was the only steward who reacted

[Superjack]

2 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Steward should be sacked. Does not have the authority to manhandle a child. 

Whoever assaulted him should be banned. 

As for those outraged by a child running on the pitch, get a grip. We all used to it.

Embarrassing from all involved 

He has the authority to do his job. But sure, defend the one in the wrong.

[Bannerman]

6 minutes ago, 06stanleyj said:

You shouldn't be on the pitch, simple as that. If you break the rules, accept the consequences. Too many idiots getting involved afterwards, young black steward (not meant as racist, just a description of him) came over to help his colleagues & he just got pushed & threatened by the so called "supporters ". I hope every one of you get picked out by the cctv & get banned, don't need your type in the ground.

Why mention the steward as being black, pointless remark. They are either stewards or not.

[The Bard]

Just now, Superjack said:

He has the authority to do his job. But sure, defend the one in the wrong.

Did you read what I said?

Man handling a child is not his job

[Pezo]

Kid shouldn't have gone on the pitch but that doesn't give the steward to right to grab the kid and basically treat the kid with the same force he would with a 20+ yo. 

[ChippenhamRed]

I’d be quite happy with the club banning any parents who allow their kids onto the pitch. It’s not like they don’t know the rules.

[A Horse With No Name]

4 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Says a lot about the competence of stewards generally that he was the only steward who reacted

He isnt just a steward, he is the Stand Manager, has been for decades.

[The Bard]

Just now, Bannerman said:

Why mention the steward as being black, pointless remark. They are either stewards or not.

It identified him didn't it

The older short white male one and the female one were the ones involved. She was also screaming at fans outside when I arrived on kick off.

Utterly pointless behaviour.

[Superjack]

1 minute ago, The Bard said:

Did you read what I said?

Man handling a child is not his job

Was this on the pitch or off? 

I'm guessing it was off the pitch. So my question to you is... would it have been okay otherwise?

[The Bard]

Just now, Superjack said:

Was this on the pitch or off? 

I'm guessing it was off the pitch. So my question to you is... would it have been okay otherwise?

It's a child and clearly a child. He posed no danger. 

 

I ran on the pitch numerous times when I was younger. 

[Flounder]

I don’t think he was just doing his job

As a steward his ultimate responsibility is public safety, he has no legal right to detain anyone, that can only be done by the Police. Not only did he try to detain the child he nearly caused a riot, which I would suggest is not very safe.

I think some re-education is required!

[Pezo]

The major problem I thought the steward created was trying to keep the kid away from his dad, all the steward had to do was invite the dad to accompany his son for a "little chat" and I'm sure it could have all been dealt with much more calmly - separate a child and parent like that and you're always going to cause the kid to panic and the dad to want to protect.

[Engvall’s Splinter]

12 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Steward should be sacked. Does not have the authority to manhandle a child. 

Whoever assaulted him should be banned. 

As for those outraged by a child running on the pitch, get a grip. We all used to it.

Embarrassing from all involved 

Did we?

[The Bard]

3 minutes ago, CrackingCheeseGromit said:

He isnt just a steward, he is the Stand Manager, has been for decades.

The Somali kid was about 20.  If it hadn't been for him, the incident would have been more serious. He was the only steward other than the 2 who lost the plot who reacted.

[The Bard]

Just now, Engvall’s Splinter said:

Did we?

Well I've been on the pitch with literally 1000s of other fans over the years. 

[James54De]

Steward escalated the situation. Force that was used was unnecessary, and risked kick back. That is the way SIA training would view it, also. 

[Redtucks]

8 minutes ago, The Bard said:

I ran on the pitch numerous times when I was younger. 

Was it an offence in those days???

 

[Dolman_Stand]

13 minutes ago, CrackingCheeseGromit said:

He isnt just a steward, he is the Stand Manager, has been for decades.

Was only built 7 years ago?

[Red Billy]

11 minutes ago, The Bard said:

It's a child and clearly a child. He posed no danger. 

 

I ran on the pitch numerous times when I was younger. 

That’s what the Waco kid thought! And look what happened!

[A Horse With No Name]

3 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Was only built 7 years ago?

What, the Dolman?

[richyy66]

12 minutes ago, The Bard said:

It identified him didn't it

The older short white male one and the female one were the ones involved. She was also screaming at fans outside when I arrived on kick off.

Utterly pointless behaviour.

That Woman steward is a real idiot. She asked me and a friend for our tickets on entrance to ground the other week. My friend is not a season ticket holder so was picking it up at the ground. Before giving him the time to answer she said if you hadn't got a ticket you're not coming in. His reply was to give her both barrels. She tries to antagonise people and because she wears an orange coat thinks she has the right to do it. Idiot !!!

[A Horse With No Name]

6 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Was only built 7 years ago?

Even if you mean the South Stand, which he is Stand Manager of, was there nothing there before it was built?

[Superjack]

17 minutes ago, The Bard said:

It's a child and clearly a child. He posed no danger. 

 

I ran on the pitch numerous times when I was younger. 

So did I. 

It wasn't against the rules then as I recall.

I guess it comes down to the facts of 'manhandled'.

[Tom]

Fantastic team performance and atmosphere and at the end of the day a few individuals wanted to make it about them. There were at least two kids who ran on the pitch, neither old enough to go to the football alone. So in this case the parents didn't care enough to stop the kids or raise them well enough. The handbags after doesn't happen without that.

[Galley is our king]

35 minutes ago, Pezo said:

The major problem I thought the steward created was trying to keep the kid away from his dad, all the steward had to do was invite the dad to accompany his son for a "little chat" and I'm sure it could have all been dealt with much more calmly - separate a child and parent like that and you're always going to cause the kid to panic and the dad to want to protect.

If a child gets separated from his parent, blame the parent not anyone else....

[Redtucks]

38 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Was only built 7 years ago?

No, actually built over 50 years ago in 1970!

Redeveloped 7 years ago!

(Would have thought you may have known that bearing in mind your user name!)

 

[Betty Swallocks]

An adult steward manhandling a child, how are you lot defending that? 

There’s no excuse for anyone of adult age to aggressively touch a child.

[REDOXO]

14 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

If a child gets separated from his parent, blame the parent not anyone else....

I agree!

Kids Need to stay off the pitch and the adult is responsible if they don’t!

However

I know nothing of the incident and make no judgement on the behavior of the stewarding, nevertheless if the parent makes the steward the defacto parent due to in attendance then they should behave appropriately!

[Tom]

2 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

An adult steward manhandling a child, how are you lot defending that? 

There’s no excuse for anyone of adult age to aggressively touch a child.

How else would you remove a child who isn't listening/respecting the rules from the playing surface? Ask nicely? To me it looked like he was holding onto the kid to stop him running back on. 

[joe jordans teeth]

1 hour ago, Loco Rojo said:

Or perhaps parent/s should learn to control their kids and stop them from running on the pitch.  Always someone elses fault though right.

Spot on.Why is everything everyone else’s fault nowadays,control the children now and teach them wrong or they will end up wrong uns 

[Pezo]

21 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

If a child gets separated from his parent, blame the parent not anyone else....

When a steward is actively stopping a kid from getting to his parent and his parent from getting to the kid it's not really about blame it's about understanding what is clearly going to be an emotional response.

I've already said the kid was in the wrong to go on the pitch and I wouldn't mind if the club used this as a case in point and banned them both but as is so often the case with our stewards the response was a complete overreaction and a serious escalation rather calming the situation down.

[Mr Hankey]

Withywood 4 lyf

[Mr Hankey]

23 minutes ago, Pezo said:

When a steward is actively stopping a kid from getting to his parent and his parent from getting to the kid it's not really about blame it's about understanding what is clearly going to be an emotional response.

I've already said the kid was in the wrong to go on the pitch and I wouldn't mind if the club used this as a case in point and banned them both but as is so often the case with our stewards the response was a complete overreaction and a serious escalation rather calming the situation down.

Like a Bear in the wild…..stopping that little shit from getting a shirt to sleep in to keep him warm, is like stopping a cub getting his salmon….#justice4thewithywoodpoor

Edited February 11, 2023 by Mr Hankey

[Betty Swallocks]

1 hour ago, Tom said:

How else would you remove a child who isn't listening/respecting the rules from the playing surface? Ask nicely? To me it looked like he was holding onto the kid to stop him running back on. 

The kid wanted to get back to his parents, he was stopped by a steward who over stepped the mark. It was disgusting seeing an adult behave that way towards a child. 

Edited February 11, 2023 by Betty Swallocks

[italian dave]

2 hours ago, CrackingCheeseGromit said:

Even if you mean the South Stand, which he is Stand Manager of, was there nothing there before it was built?

Think there was a shed. 

[italian dave]

2 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said:

An adult steward manhandling a child, how are you lot defending that? 

There’s no excuse for anyone of adult age to aggressively touch a child.

Well, there is. Where the line is, and which side this was, may be debateable, 

[joe jordans teeth]

3 hours ago, The Bard said:

Steward should be sacked. Does not have the authority to manhandle a child. 

Whoever assaulted him should be banned. 

As for those outraged by a child running on the pitch, get a grip. We all used to it.

Embarrassing from all involved 

We all used to slap a bird on the ass we knew and tell risky jokes,you can’t do it nowadays so to bring out the “we all used to do it”doesn’t hold much weight anymore 

[joe jordans teeth]

1 hour ago, Betty Swallocks said:

The kid wanted to get back to his parents, he was stopped by a steward who over stepped the mark. It was disgusting seeing an adult behave that way towards a child. 

Then don’t run away from your parents in the first place,we have feral children roaming the streets do we need them in a sporting environment 

Edited February 11, 2023 by joe jordans teeth

[Out of his pie crust]

What a load of old nonsense that all was 

[2015]

4 hours ago, 06stanleyj said:

You shouldn't be on the pitch, simple as that. If you break the rules, accept the consequences. Too many idiots getting involved afterwards, young black steward (not meant as racist, just a description of him) came over to help his colleagues & he just got pushed & threatened by the so called "supporters ". I hope every one of you get picked out by the cctv & get banned, don't need your type in the ground.

Bullies. Needed more heavy handed security staff to come over and help out. Steward was just doing his job, don't run on the pitch begging for a shirt, simple as that.

[Betty Swallocks]

1 hour ago, italian dave said:

Well, there is. Where the line is, and which side this was, may be debateable, 

It wasn’t debatable, it was way over the top. I hope the parents take action against the individuals involved. 

[Engvall’s Splinter]

6 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said:

It wasn’t debatable, it was way over the top. I hope the parents take action against the individuals involved. 

Todays society for you. 
 

Kid runs on the pitch (most likely with parents blessing) illegally and gets pulled up by steward. Yet the club should take action against the steward? Laughable. 

Britain in a nutshell. 

[johnheadbcfc]

Understand why the club have 0 tolerance policy on anyone getting on the pitch , but whether as a parent your in the right or wrong if someone is holding your child and not allowing you to get  him/her back your going to act aggressively!

Was it last season where every home game the kids on the pitch seemed to multiply

[42nite]

6 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said:

It wasn’t debatable, it was way over the top. I hope the parents take action against the individuals involved. 

And also the parents get banned for allowing their children to enter a restricted area.

Then maybe incidents like this won't happen again.

[Super]

6 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said:

It wasn’t debatable, it was way over the top. I hope the parents take action against the individuals involved. 

Good luck with that.

Edited February 12, 2023 by Super

[Slippin cider]

11 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said:

An adult steward manhandling a child, how are you lot defending that? 

There’s no excuse for anyone of adult age to aggressively touch a child.

Wish someone had told that to the teachers back in the 70s , I was beaten to a pulp regularly! 

[Oh Louie louie]

Worst decision of Dave Mitchell's life over celebrating when Swindon scored when Owen missed the pen that day.i swear half the ground went for him

[The Gasbuster]

1 hour ago, Slippin cider said:

Wish someone had told that to the teachers back in the 70s , I was beaten to a pulp regularly! 

My late father would have taken some action against me back in the 70’s if we had been at the football, and I had run on to the pitch.

I wouldn’t do it again, that’s for sure !

And he would have made me apologise to the steward as well !

Edited February 12, 2023 by The Gasbuster

[Roe]

Pathetic from fans. 

We all know some stewards can be knobheads at times but in this case it's purely on the blame of stupid parents. Sort your kids out or **** off

[RedM]

13 hours ago, The Bard said:

It's a child and clearly a child. He posed no danger. 

 

I ran on the pitch numerous times when I was younger. 

To celebrate a 1-0 win and beg for a shirt, really?

I saw I kid run to ask for a shirt. The club has done well to stamp this out over the past few months after the joke it had become earlier this season. If we win I want to acknowledge the players not have them surrounded by 50 kids and dealing with them.

Anyway the kid then decided to try return to the stand, empty handed when another kid ran on. The steward decided to take him to the tunnel and the kid was trying to wriggle away. I thought the steward did well, I would have scooped the little git up and carried him off.

No doubt they needed to speak to the parent/parents and took the kid to the tunnel to be 'claimed'. This made the parent (?) irate/angry (I won't say concerned as if they were that concerned they would not have put their offspring in that situation in the first place).

Anyway it all kicked off with the stewards as the their parent was trying to get to their kid, who had broken the law, I don't care what age he is.

I don't think anyone wants to see the return of kids running on and demanding shirts. I don't want our celebrations when we beat ManC to be ruined by 100 idiots surrounding the ManC players for shirts and TicToc crap.

So, if it were up to me I would ban both kids and parents, possibly for the rest of the season and certainly for the ManC game. But I guess they might be lucky and get a slap on the wrist.

The club gets a fine and are reported for any incident like this, someone has to pay.

[Mad Cyril]

"Dad - please will you buy me a shirt from the City shop??"

"No chance Junior, hop over that barrier, sprint on and ask that Vyner bloke for one..."

[RedM]

2 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said:

"Dad - please will you buy me a shirt from the City shop??"

"No chance Junior, hop over that barrier, sprint on and ask that Vyner bloke for one..."

You got this wrong. 

Dad "Look son, you got your free shirt with your cheap season ticket, now run on and get me Scott's so I can wack it on eBay and get a few quid"

[steviestevieneville]

I heard the steward had the kid around the throat which is out of order 100% . However the dad of the kid should be banned . We all know it’s criminal offence to be on the pitch in the first place . He probably thought oh they won’t do anything because it’s a kid . It’s pathetic , stay off the pitch.

[Monkeh]

9 hours ago, Betty Swallocks said:

It wasn’t debatable, it was way over the top. I hope the parents take action against the individuals involved. 

i hope the parents and kid is banned for life, entering the field of play is a criminal offence, we have been warned about this from the FA and EFL and most likely will be fined again as a result, whether the steward over stepped the mark isn't the problem, beaking the ******* law is the actual problem

[Redandproud]

15 hours ago, James54De said:

It’s was a knobhead steward, again. Yes, fine, kids Al should not run on the pitch. Yes, the club have said things before. However, not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Steward should have known when to step away to diffuse any situation. 

Why is the steward a knobhead, he's doing his job, it's the parents responsibility to stop his child running on the pitch Not to encourage him to run on, fine or ban the parent, so the parents are in the wrong not the steward 

[Carey 6]

10 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

i hope the parents and kid is banned for life, entering the field of play is a criminal offence, we have been warned about this from the FA and EFL and most likely will be fined again as a result, whether the steward over stepped the mark isn't the problem, beaking the ******* law is the actual problem

Banned for life? Ridiculous. All it takes is a warning of a ban (not a lifetime one) & the kid won’t do it again 

[Tom]

13 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

I heard the steward had the kid around the throat which is out of order 100% . However the dad of the kid should be banned . We all know it’s criminal offence to be on the pitch in the first place . He probably thought oh they won’t do anything because it’s a kid . It’s pathetic , stay off the pitch.

You heard that? Lots of people had a clear view of it (me included). If you're talking about the second kid in the camo green top, he was not being held around the throat. 

People will make up anything to avoid taking accountability for their actions .

Edited February 12, 2023 by Tom

[sticks 1969]

I watched then whole thing unfold 

the lad didn’t hang around long to ask for a shirt he just seemed to walk up to a player quick exchange of words then ran back 

what I found amusing was his reaction when walking back fist pumping the air and clapping like he was a player 

it then seemed to get out of hand when he hopped back over the fence and the steward grabbed him .

now this is where hindsight is a wonderful thing , really the steward should have asked where his parents where or maybe just said what he did was wrong and not to do it again . 
instead he held him and not let him go back into the stands cu where other people got involved and it all got a little heated 

he did seem to get back into the seats and looked like was going to make a quick exit when he then seemed to pop back up at the bottom and more chaos resumed 

somthing so simple wherever Wright or wrong took a very slight edge off a good and hopefully all is ok for all parties