Guest Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 The wife just watched Coventry fans getting all excited on local news about their big day tomorrow; "What final is this" ...play off final I said then had to try and explain why a team can finish 10 points behind Luton 3rd place and yet have a chance of beating them to the top division. Madness she said why cant the top 3 go up just as the bottom 3 go down? Well maybe something to do with someone making money, got to agree the season should be the season imo, top 3 should go up and bottom 3 down...the end. The season shouldnt come down to an overpriced one off game where a bit of luck could swing it one way or another...........what next?..... top team goes up and the next 8 play off against each other......madness but watch this space over the coming years. 3up, 3 down simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Betty Swallocks Posted May 26, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, gl2 said: The wife just watched Coventry fans getting all excited on local news about their big day tomorrow; "What final is this" ...play off final I said then had to try and explain why a team can finish 10 points behind Luton 3rd place and yet have a chance of beating them to the top division. Madness she said why cant the top 3 go up just as the bottom 3 go down? Well maybe something to do with someone making money, got to agree the season should be the season imo, top 3 should go up and bottom 3 down...the end. The season shouldnt come down to an overpriced one off game where a bit of luck could swing it one way or another...........what next?..... top team goes up and the next 8 play off against each other......madness but watch this space over the coming years. 3up, 3 down simple Would leave so many dead rubbers at the end of the season. Good luck trying to sell season tickets when there’s a good chance by the end of February your seasons pretty much over. The play offs are a great spectacle at the end the season and it would be madness to ditch them. 31 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, gl2 said: ... the season should be the season ... Just imagine if everyone entered the competition knowing the format. Oh, they already do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, gl2 said: The wife just watched Coventry fans getting all excited on local news about their big day tomorrow; "What final is this" ...play off final I said then had to try and explain why a team can finish 10 points behind Luton 3rd place and yet have a chance of beating them to the top division. Madness she said why cant the top 3 go up just as the bottom 3 go down? Well maybe something to do with someone making money, got to agree the season should be the season imo, top 3 should go up and bottom 3 down...the end. The season shouldnt come down to an overpriced one off game where a bit of luck could swing it one way or another...........what next?..... top team goes up and the next 8 play off against each other......madness but watch this space over the coming years. 3up, 3 down simple Maybe you aren’t old enough to remember how many meaninless games we had to endure at the end of the season, before the play offs were introduced. Not the perfect solution granted, but keeps the season alive for so many more teams now and their supportsrs now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, gl2 said: The wife just watched Coventry fans getting all excited on local news about their big day tomorrow; "What final is this" ...play off final I said then had to try and explain why a team can finish 10 points behind Luton 3rd place and yet have a chance of beating them to the top division. Can also have multiple teams on the same points total and not have to decide it on goal difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said: Maybe you aren’t old enough to remember how many meaninless games we had to endure at the end of the season, before the play offs were introduced. Not the perfect solution granted, but keeps the season alive for so many more teams now and their supportsrs now. At 70 plus yes I remember.......so lets say we finish next season in 3rd and end up at Wembers against a 6th place team but were 10points ahead of them at the end of the season, the 6th place team get a dodgey pen and we lose the game= madness and not many happy bunnies on here. Why not have play offs at top and bottom of the leagues then? Point being we all play each other twice, top 3 up bottom 3 down, the best 3 over the season should go up not the top 2... plus 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th....... why stop at 6th then, lets all play each other again in the new super improved play offs involving all the teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 The playoffs are probably one of the best things introduced. Keeps the season alive for many teams 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 OP Its a freaking entertainment business. The current format of promotion together with 3 points for a win were the best innovations that happened to English football. The format is dynamic and exciting, and fair, and fortunately for most of the rest of us we like it that way. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, gl2 said: At 70 plus yes I remember.......so lets say we finish next season in 3rd and end up at Wembers against a 6th place team but were 10points ahead of them at the end of the season, the 6th place team get a dodgey pen and we lose the game= madness and not many happy bunnies on here. Why not have play offs at top and bottom of the leagues then? Point being we all play each other twice, top 3 up bottom 3 down, the best 3 over the season should go up not the top 2... plus 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th....... why stop at 6th then, lets all play each other again in the new super improved play offs involving all the teams. We wouldn’t be that happy if we were in Luton’s position, but that’s the way it goes. There’s way more interest at the end of the season now than there used to be, that’s for sure and it’s hard to argue that it isn’t for the greater good for spectators. As for teams in a relegation fight being involved in play offs, didn’t we relegate Sheff U in one of our play off battles?! 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, gl2 said: At 70 plus yes I remember.......so lets say we finish next season in 3rd and end up at Wembers against a 6th place team but were 10points ahead of them at the end of the season, the 6th place team get a dodgey pen and we lose the game= madness and not many happy bunnies on here. Why not have play offs at top and bottom of the leagues then? Point being we all play each other twice, top 3 up bottom 3 down, the best 3 over the season should go up not the top 2... plus 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th....... why stop at 6th then, lets all play each other again in the new super improved play offs involving all the teams. You stop at 6th because that works perfectly for play offs. Year on year it produces great moments of football and emotion. Don’t know how anyone can watch play off games and think “yeah it would be a great idea to scrap these”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, gl2 said: lets all play each other again in the new super improved play offs involving all the teams. I like it. 6 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said: We wouldn’t be that happy if we were in Luton’s position, but that’s the way it goes. There’s way more interest at the end of the season now than there used to be, that’s for sure and it’s hard to argue that it isn’t for the greater good for spectators. As for teams in a relegation fight being involved in play offs, didn’t we relegate Sheff U in one of our play off battles?! Yes we did . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said: You stop at 6th because that works perfectly for play offs. Year on year it produces great moments of football and emotion. Don’t know how anyone can watch play off games and think “yeah it would be a great idea to scrap these”. Yeah mental idea to scrap them IMO, even though we as a club have never had any luck in going up via the play-offs we have had arguably some of our most memorable games in them. Palace and Hartlepool spring to mind! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 The play offs have been bad for us but I wouldn't change anything Two 3rd place finishes in the early 2000's and no play off promotions yet? Maybe 2023/24 is the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, gl2 said: The wife just watched Coventry fans getting all excited on local news about their big day tomorrow; "What final is this" ...play off final I said then had to try and explain why a team can finish 10 points behind Luton 3rd place and yet have a chance of beating them to the top division. Madness she said why cant the top 3 go up just as the bottom 3 go down? Well maybe something to do with someone making money, got to agree the season should be the season imo, top 3 should go up and bottom 3 down...the end. The season shouldnt come down to an overpriced one off game where a bit of luck could swing it one way or another...........what next?..... top team goes up and the next 8 play off against each other......madness but watch this space over the coming years. 3up, 3 down simple Couldn’t disagree more. So many pointless games over the last two months of the season. The play offs are always great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Couldn’t disagree more. So many pointless games over the last two months of the season. The play offs are always great. If anything I quite like the playoffs with 6 teams…top 2 up…then: 5th (home) plays 8th 6th (home) plays 7th 3rd (home) plays winner of 2 4th (home) plays winner of 1 winner of 3 v winner of 4 at Wembley I think that’s similar to the National League playoffs. All single leg. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, gl2 said: The wife just watched Coventry fans getting all excited on local news about their big day tomorrow; "What final is this" ...play off final I said then had to try and explain why a team can finish 10 points behind Luton 3rd place and yet have a chance of beating them to the top division. Madness she said why cant the top 3 go up just as the bottom 3 go down? Well maybe something to do with someone making money, got to agree the season should be the season imo, top 3 should go up and bottom 3 down...the end. The season shouldnt come down to an overpriced one off game where a bit of luck could swing it one way or another...........what next?..... top team goes up and the next 8 play off against each other......madness but watch this space over the coming years. 3up, 3 down simple Your missus got any more pearls of wisdom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Your missus got any more pearls of wisdom Hopefully not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: If anything I quite like the playoffs with 6 teams…top 2 up…then: 5th (home) plays 8th 6th (home) plays 7th 3rd (home) plays winner of 2 4th (home) plays winner of 1 winner of 3 v winner of 4 at Wembley I think that’s similar to the National League playoffs. All single leg. And then do the same with the bottom 8,can’t see many league clubs agreeing with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 At the beginning wasn't there the nightmare where the winner of the championship playoff had to play the third relegation placed team in the premier league and beat them to get promoted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, gl2 said: The wife just watched Coventry fans getting all excited on local news about their big day tomorrow; "What final is this" ...play off final I said then had to try and explain why a team can finish 10 points behind Luton 3rd place and yet have a chance of beating them to the top division. Madness she said why cant the top 3 go up just as the bottom 3 go down? Well maybe something to do with someone making money, got to agree the season should be the season imo, top 3 should go up and bottom 3 down...the end. The season shouldnt come down to an overpriced one off game where a bit of luck could swing it one way or another...........what next?..... top team goes up and the next 8 play off against each other......madness but watch this space over the coming years. 3up, 3 down simple That would make a very boring end of the season for about 8 clubs in each division, they used to have playoffs for relegation as well which I was never sure about, me I think the playoffs are probably the best thing to happen to football in my lifetime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, Davefevs said: If anything I quite like the playoffs with 6 teams…top 2 up…then: 5th (home) plays 8th 6th (home) plays 7th 3rd (home) plays winner of 2 4th (home) plays winner of 1 winner of 3 v winner of 4 at Wembley I think that’s similar to the National League playoffs. All single leg. Would love to see something similar at the other end of the table too... and more teams promoted/relegated. 4 up 4 down across all leagues would be far more exciting.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, gl2 said: The wife just watched Coventry fans getting all excited on local news about their big day tomorrow; "What final is this" ...play off final I said then had to try and explain why a team can finish 10 points behind Luton 3rd place and yet have a chance of beating them to the top division. Madness she said why cant the top 3 go up just as the bottom 3 go down? Well maybe something to do with someone making money, got to agree the season should be the season imo, top 3 should go up and bottom 3 down...the end. The season shouldnt come down to an overpriced one off game where a bit of luck could swing it one way or another...........what next?..... top team goes up and the next 8 play off against each other......madness but watch this space over the coming years. 3up, 3 down simple The team finishing 3rd should go straight to the final; would make it a little fairer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 31 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Your missus got any more pearls of wisdom Whisper words of wisdom, Let It Be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, Midred said: At the beginning wasn't there the nightmare where the winner of the championship playoff had to play the third relegation placed team in the premier league and beat them to get promoted? Hmmm i thought 5th in league below played 3rd from bottom in league above then played winner of 3rd v 4th...... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, gl2 said: At 70 plus yes I remember.......so lets say we finish next season in 3rd and end up at Wembers against a 6th place team but were 10points ahead of them at the end of the season, the 6th place team get a dodgey pen and we lose the game= madness and not many happy bunnies on here. Why not have play offs at top and bottom of the leagues then? Point being we all play each other twice, top 3 up bottom 3 down, the best 3 over the season should go up not the top 2... plus 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th....... why stop at 6th then, lets all play each other again in the new super improved play offs involving all the teams. Not really because thats how it works, you flip it and we finish 6th and went up no one would be like 'nah that 3rd place really should have gone up instead of us'. Play offs are good for football as others have said if you had 3 run away teams the season would be over so early and games become meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 28 minutes ago, Midred said: At the beginning wasn't there the nightmare where the winner of the championship playoff had to play the third relegation placed team in the premier league and beat them to get promoted? Still a variation of that in Scotland. Winner of Championship goes up automatically, the bottom team in the SPL is relegated automatically but, second bottom play the winners of the Championship play-off which is contested between the teams that finish 2,3,4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 Whilst I get the whole finishing 3rd and not going up being harsh, you really cannot beat the playoffs for drama and entertainment (a key part of the industry revenue). the intensity it adds is brilliant to watch, just look at Sheffield Wednesday last week - the drive to achieve an incredible come back due to what was at stake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3City Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, BrizzleRed said: We wouldn’t be that happy if we were in Luton’s position, but that’s the way it goes. There’s way more interest at the end of the season now than there used to be, that’s for sure and it’s hard to argue that it isn’t for the greater good for spectators. As for teams in a relegation fight being involved in play offs, didn’t we relegate Sheff U in one of our play off battles?! I've got a really dim and distant memory of being in the upper tier at Sheff Utd for a play off game, with Sir Alan Walsh banging one in at the far end to send 'em down. Is that correct? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, BS3City said: I've got a really dim and distant memory of being in the upper tier at Sheff Utd for a play off game, with Sir Alan Walsh banging one in at the far end to send 'em down. Is that correct? Thought it was Carl Shutt who scored up there ? Walshy in the home game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3City Posted May 26, 2023 Report Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, glynriley said: Thought it was Carl Shutt who scored up there ? Walshy in the home game. Could well be mate, happy to stand corrected! I do remember that format of playing a team from the league above was quite dramatic though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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