Miah Dennehy Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I wonder if there are grounds for having that Freight Rover result overturned. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 On 19/09/2024 at 12:07, BigTone said: What a plank What a dope ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 2 hours ago, bcfcredandwhite said: Very sad that JET has been foolish enough to get involved in this. He knew it was illegal but still took the risk and got caught. He will go to jail for that I’m sure. Whatever we think of the use of ‘weed’, its supply is a serious crime - it’s currently illegal in this country and flouting the law on drugs carries heavy penalties. I have my own opinion; I think it’s not going to go away and it costs a fortune in time and money to police it, so it should be legalised and controlled by licence - like alcohol and tobacco currently is. Just like Alcohol and tobacco, sustained consumption will be bad for you, but it’s not going to be possible to eradicate it, so its consumption might as well be used to bring in some revenue. If readily (legally) available to buy from off licences or tobacconists then it will generate tax revenue and take the pressure off the police and legal system. It would also drive the current underworld dealers out of business. However, right now it’s illegal here and anyone caught with large amounts of it is a fool and can expect a harsh punishment. Comparing it to Alcohol and tobacco. If either of those two came about in this day and age they would no doubt both be illegal. It’s like paracetamol, I was told by someone in the health and care industry if that was invented now it would be prescription only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Williams Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Maybe he’s part of managements ‘on the grass’ agenda but it’s all gone tits up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 On 19/09/2024 at 13:10, W-S-M Seagull said: In this case it is illegal in the UK. You criticised his arrest for importing drugs into the UK despite knowing that illegal drugs fund organised crime and has a big impact on UK society. Knife crime, gangs, kids involved in county lines etc. It's shocking that anyone would criticise this arrest. Trouble is most of us don’t realise that there are many different strains of cannabis, none are totally safe when smoked, but there are some which are extremely dangerous in the long term! Medical cannabis is carefully prepared and not harmful when properly used 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 15 hours ago, BeggyBlaggers said: Do some research on Oxycontin - a legal drug. I have posted on this subject that I was using prescribed cannabis for severe pain with great success while I was waiting for surgery, prior to that I was prescribed high doses of Fentanyl which turned out to be the worst experience of my life, the side effects were horrendous, my point being all drugs can be harmful if not used correctly or simply not suitable for your individual circumstances . For those that aren't familiar with Fentanyl Fentanyl is a highly potent synthetic piperidine opioid primarily used as an analgesic. It is 20 to 40 times more potent than heroin and 100 times more potent than morphine 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bpexile said: I have posted on this subject that I was using prescribed cannabis for severe pain with great success while I was waiting for surgery, prior to that I was prescribed high doses of Fentanyl which turned out to be the worst experience of my life, the side effects were horrendous, my point being all drugs can be harmful if not used correctly or simply not suitable for your individual circumstances . For those that aren't familiar with Fentanyl Fentanyl is a highly potent synthetic piperidine opioid primarily used as an analgesic. It is 20 to 40 times more potent than heroin and 100 times more potent than morphine Yep, horrendous. But to be clear to some posters, this is what a lot of us have been saying - when people simply go drugs = bad, it's just not like that. The effects of something like that are miles different from recreational stuff that is standard in the UK. Edited September 20 by nebristolred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 And while this discussion is going on we have a coach who says he enjoys being out on the grass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 20 hours ago, OneTeamInBristol said: Five murder cases linked to cannabis use in just a single year https://extra.ie/2024/04/07/news/cannabis-murder-case In the interests of balance, HALF OF MURDERS LINKED TO ALCOHOL! Both these articles were from Ireland FYI. For context in 2022 there were 69 murders in Ireland, the articles indicate half of murders in Ireland due to drinking, 5 murders in relation to weed make up less than 10%, 50% of murders nothing to do with either! https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20060895.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReds Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 22 hours ago, Riaz said: Guns no. Never. But Cannabis? No one ever smoked a spliff and then killed anyone. Dont get me wrong, there are some negative aspects - but the positives far outweigh the negatives. 53 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: In the interests of balance, HALF OF MURDERS LINKED TO ALCOHOL! Both these articles were from Ireland FYI. For context in 2022 there were 69 murders in Ireland, the articles indicate half of murders in Ireland due to drinking, 5 murders in relation to weed make up less than 10%, 50% of murders nothing to do with either! https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20060895.html Don't think anyone is suggesting alcohol doesn't cause harm, linked to murders etc etc. The reply was to the completely made up statement by Riaz that nobody has ever smoked a spliff and killed anyone, of course they have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 19/09/2024 at 12:28, Riaz said: Its 2024 - you really need to catch up. The stuff is gross and can f### your head right up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 There are obvious benefits from Cannabis. So much that we need for health comes from the plant world. CBD for example... CBD doesn't contain tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive ingredient found in marijuana that produces a high. That's where the problem lies...the THC. Remove that and it has plenty of health benefits. The planet gives us everything we need to survive. The pharmaceutical industry knows this. That's why they make so much money. Plants are a significant source of pharmaceuticals, with estimates that around 25% of prescribed drugs come from plants. Some examples of plant-derived drugs include: Aspirin: Derived from willow bark Morphine: Derived from the opium poppy Artemisinin: Used to treat multi drug resistant malaria Silymarin: Used in liver disease Galantamine: Used to treat Alzheimer's disease Plants have been used for medicinal purposes since ancient times, and there are an estimated 350,000 to almost half a million species of medicinal plants. Natural compounds can be valuable leads for drug discovery, and can be modified to create potent drugs. For example, baccatin III, isolated from the yew tree, was modified into taxol, a potent anticancer drug. According to Newman and Cragg 2012, the utility of natural products as sources of novel structures is still alive and well. Up to 50% the approved drugs during the last 30 years are from either directly or indirectly from natural products and in the area of cancer, over the time frame from around the 1940s to date, of the 175 small molecules 85 actually being either natural products or directly derived there from. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3560124/ There's a cure for everything in the plant world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Skin Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 19/09/2024 at 12:10, Riaz said: Its fine for anyone over 25. And its a plant. Which is now legal in may parts of the world. We really need to catch up Must better than any of the synthetic high created to get around the drugs law. Sadly, I don't think we'll ever get a serious debate from politicians about decriminalisation/legalisation. For those that have addiction issues, it should be a health issue not a criminal one. Compare the drugs problem now when it's illegal to the time when it wasn't and you'll understand what the real issue is. Same as prohibition of alcohol in the USA fuelled crime. Same for JET to get mixed up in it. Loved him as a player and he came across well as a lad too. Just makes bad decisions it seems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Skin Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Back when drugs were legal. Hell, Britain even had Opium wars with Chinese in the 1800s. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/966b1bdd-69ff-4de0-9c39-d9276eba706b 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 On 20/09/2024 at 10:21, BeggyBlaggers said: Christs sake Im actually with you on the legalise cannabis for personal use. But its a bit naive and dim to think that once legalised, drug dealers are going to think 'oh eck, best get a job now' Having lived in the Netherlands I can tell you now, there are still drug dealers selling weed, the weed you get from the coffee shops the strains are developed to not be as strong so there is still and underground scene of weed smokers who won’t go to the shops to buy it! Also Our Governent is the biggest Exporter of cannabis in the world! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedontplayinblue Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 9 minutes ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said: Having lived in the Netherlands I can tell you now, there are still drug dealers selling weed, the weed you get from the coffee shops the strains are developed to not be as strong so there is still and underground scene of weed smokers who won’t go to the shops to buy it! Also Our Governent is the biggest Exporter of cannabis in the world! Can you not bring facts to an argument on OTIB please, it’s just not on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 On 19/09/2024 at 16:54, Oh Louie louie said: On the bright side we are without a doubt in the Guinness book of records for having the most players associated with a club in jail Including charged not jailed (Lavin, Brown, Tomlin) there is an XI. I’m sure there was a 90s youth player in one of the squad photos who was done for armed robbery too, can’t remember the name. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 1 hour ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said: Having lived in the Netherlands I can tell you now, there are still drug dealers selling weed, the weed you get from the coffee shops the strains are developed to not be as strong so there is still and underground scene of weed smokers who won’t go to the shops to buy it! Also Our Governent is the biggest Exporter of cannabis in the world! Yep...UK biggest exporter of ' cannabis ' in the World since 2016. https://releaf.co.uk/education/cannabis-101/statistics/how-much-cannabis-does-the-uk-export Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeggyBlaggers Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 3 hours ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said: Having lived in the Netherlands I can tell you now, there are still drug dealers selling weed, the weed you get from the coffee shops the strains are developed to not be as strong so there is still and underground scene of weed smokers who won’t go to the shops to buy it! Also Our Governent is the biggest Exporter of cannabis in the world! Dont tell Riaz this.....drug dealers will be reverends once cannabis is legal apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdliketoRogerMoore Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 44 minutes ago, BeggyBlaggers said: Dont tell Riaz this.....drug dealers will be reverends once cannabis is legal apparently Also although granted I don’t know much about Dutch Law but I was told by my friends when I lived there that it’s not actually legal either it’s in some grey area where they just don’t prosecute commercial sales or individual use to an extent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 (edited) On 22/09/2024 at 09:32, Olé said: Including charged not jailed (Lavin, Brown, Tomlin) there is an XI. I’m sure there was a 90s youth player in one of the squad photos who was done for armed robbery too, can’t remember the name. Al-Hadji Sesay...what a horrible **** he turned out to be, hope he is enjoying his deservedly long prison sentence Edited September 25 by The Nest Egg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Med/MadHatter Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 On 22/09/2024 at 01:16, IdliketoRogerMoore said: Having lived in the Netherlands I can tell you now, there are still drug dealers selling weed, the weed you get from the coffee shops the strains are developed to not be as strong so there is still and underground scene of weed smokers who won’t go to the shops to buy it! Also Our Governent is the biggest Exporter of cannabis in the world! Over here in Canada cannabis and it's derivatives are legal, sold in Government licensed shops, every town seems to have at least one! there are still dealers around because they are way cheaper than the shops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 On 22/09/2024 at 09:32, Olé said: Including charged not jailed (Lavin, Brown, Tomlin) there is an XI. I’m sure there was a 90s youth player in one of the squad photos who was done for armed robbery too, can’t remember the name. Same name as a major high st bank?....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Our most famous prisoner as manager Russell Osman! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 I recall reading aizlewood having a holiday too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 2 hours ago, archie andrews said: Same name as a major high st bank?....... Dominic HSBC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 17 hours ago, archie andrews said: Same name as a major high st bank?....... Nope not Dominic Barclay. I’ve remembered him now. This appears to be his only reference on OTIB. Ended up at Gloucester City or Yeovil but only after doing time for robbing a bank after City if I recall correctly (and if I haven’t, I apologise, it was certainly the story at the time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Jacki went close, the first time he came back he had had a outstanding warrant for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 On 26/09/2024 at 06:50, archie andrews said: Same name as a major high st bank?....... Nat West? Dont remember him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 On 22/09/2024 at 09:32, Olé said: Including charged not jailed (Lavin, Brown, Tomlin) there is an XI. I’m sure there was a 90s youth player in one of the squad photos who was done for armed robbery too, can’t remember the name. I feel Scott Brown is going to need to run around a lot in that midfield. Like he's on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted Tuesday at 11:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:46 On 19/09/2024 at 11:54, RedRoss said: I'm actually pretty liberal on the legalisation of weed viewpoint However come off it. If this is true it's 600k worth of weed being smuggled internationally? That's a whole different discussion and much more serious. Illegal to produce or import yet allowed in small quantities for personal use. The best black market opportunity since prohibition in USA. Legalise it, tax it and get some quality control. Use the income to fight class A drugs and people trafficking gangs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted Tuesday at 12:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:26 Andre Blackman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted Tuesday at 13:57 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:57 On 20/09/2024 at 15:54, Miah Dennehy said: I wonder if there are grounds for having that Freight Rover result overturned. Adams Park, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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