Robbored Posted Saturday at 11:38 Share Posted Saturday at 11:38 14 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: Terry Cooper? Cotts? I’d overlooked TC for some reason……… and I never rated Cotterill. I considered him a chancer and that proved to be the case. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted Saturday at 12:16 Share Posted Saturday at 12:16 22 minutes ago, Robbored said: I’d overlooked TC for some reason……… and I never rated Cotterill. I considered him a chancer and that proved to be the case. How so? or just another wind up? But I'll bite ! The last manager to win a promotion, a trophy, and the reason we're watching Championship football. Oversaw some excellent recruitment (inc. Kodjia enabling the club to recoup their outlay x5) , but was let down by SL and ultimately the fact that he didn't rate Mark Ashton and refused to support his proposed appointment did for him in the end ( the results giving SL the justification as it did with Nige), with MA appointed within 36 hours of SC's departure. Perhaps SL should have listened to Cotts, events proved he was right all along. But chancer - really? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted Saturday at 12:44 Share Posted Saturday at 12:44 26 minutes ago, CodeRed said: How so? or just another wind up? But I'll bite ! The last manager to win a promotion, a trophy, and the reason we're watching Championship football. Oversaw some excellent recruitment (inc. Kodjia enabling the club to recoup their outlay x5) , but was let down by SL and ultimately the fact that he didn't rate Mark Ashton and refused to support his proposed appointment did for him in the end ( the results giving SL the justification as it did with Nige), with MA appointed within 36 hours of SC's departure. Perhaps SL should have listened to Cotts, events proved he was right all along. But chancer - really? SC’s sacking has been done to death CR - let it go……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted Saturday at 13:20 Share Posted Saturday at 13:20 32 minutes ago, Robbored said: SC’s sacking has been done to death CR - let it go……… Says the man who's been sticking pins into an effigy of Gary Johnson every day for - what is it 17 years? - 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted Saturday at 13:41 Share Posted Saturday at 13:41 20 minutes ago, CodeRed said: Says the man who's been sticking pins into an effigy of Gary Johnson every day for - what is it 17 years? - CR - I haven’t mentioned the unsophisticated one trick pony for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted Saturday at 13:50 Share Posted Saturday at 13:50 7 minutes ago, Robbored said: CR - I haven’t mentioned the unsophisticated one trick pony for ages. Just because he had you in a headlock in his office let sleeping dogs lie robbo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted Saturday at 14:48 Share Posted Saturday at 14:48 On 27/09/2024 at 10:19, petehinton said: Dull, but I think he was largely pretty interesting to listen to tbh. Especially when it came to academy, category upgrading, style of play etc. I think (rightly) so many fans made up their mind on him so early on that it almost didn’t matter though. Spot on, SO'D was a really dour, serious and fairly obnoxious bugger, but I really enjoyed his press conferences; Felt like you learned something new every time you listened to him tbh. It was a shit show under him but he laid many of the foundations that Cotts built upon. (Not to take any credit away from the King) On 27/09/2024 at 10:54, mozo said: My personal thoughts are that these press conferences are not for Manning to entertain fans, or to give analysis for football nerds like us. The objective is simply to give the media some basic soundbites so they can write a story. I bet only a small % of City fans even watch these things, and most will read the story in the press and barely take it in. So, I'm not especially bothered about the content of these things, or how charismatic the guy is. There have been a few comments asking how he motivates players. God knows, but he does. That's all that matters. Irrespective of team selections and tactics, his side always goes out looking motivated and never down tools. Off the back of two shocking defeats, we still came out against Oxford looking confident and up for it, and we dominated most of the game. There must be interpersonal skills there. There will be people that just don't like him because he comes across as conceited and dry, just like some didn't Nige for being too belligerent, or LJ for being too self-promoting. And the next manager will have some their own characteristic that ruffles people's feathers. Such is life. Ultimately though, as much as we can criticise his persona, his tactics, selections etc, the performances and results are what matters. He can be as weird as he wants if his team produces the goods. A lot here I understand, but plenty I'd argue against. Whilst the press conferences are small fry, Manning is going to need to improve his performance at them should he realise his ambitions of being a top tier manager. I'd be really disappointed if he shared your view on the lack of importance of them too. It's his only real opportunity to communicate with the fans and I personally consider the openness and honesty of the previous manager to be one of the major factors in his popularity here. Manning has gone from evasive to now seemingly being ok with blatant mistruths and that's not ever a good thing in establishing trust between the players, fans or media. What's interesting is I can't see anyone in the local media group now smart enough or brave enough to see through the lies/inaccuracies as they are said and call them out. And if they did, I'd be very interested to see how defensive Manning could get... I'd also suggest that the bulk of this squad and the core shared principles of the group were established long before Manning arrived... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted Saturday at 14:51 Share Posted Saturday at 14:51 1 minute ago, BobBobBobbin said: Spot on, SO'D was a really dour, serious and fairly obnoxious bugger, but I really enjoyed his press conferences; Felt like you learned something new every time you listened to him tbh. It was a shit show under him but he laid many of the foundations that Cotts built upon. (Not to take any credit away from the King) SOD`s programme notes were always worth a read too. I found them very interesting and totally at odds with how he came across in the press conferences. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobBobbin Posted Saturday at 14:53 Share Posted Saturday at 14:53 Just now, Lanterne Rouge said: SOD`s programme notes were always worth a read too. I found them very interesting and totally at odds with how he came across in the press conferences. Yes, they were fab. If I remember correctly we used to make them available online too? I'm sure his accent had a big part to play in his perception. Understandably so tbh... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted Saturday at 17:15 Share Posted Saturday at 17:15 5 hours ago, Robbored said: I’d overlooked TC for some reason……… and I never rated Cotterill. I considered him a chancer and that proved to be the case. Wtaf omg .... I can't I just can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted Saturday at 18:31 Share Posted Saturday at 18:31 7 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Here’s your confirmation he does read it and take notice. My pleasure. i did ask him if he did and what he thought of otib, i was somewhat surprised at how he thought/knew there were some very clever people on here and considered forum users to be amongst the most loyal supporters because they actively spend some of their spare time airing their views and discussing all things city related. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted Sunday at 12:52 Share Posted Sunday at 12:52 18 hours ago, redsquirrel said: i did ask him if he did and what he thought of otib, i was somewhat surprised at how he thought/knew there were some very clever people on here and considered forum users to be amongst the most loyal supporters because they actively spend some of their spare time airing their views and discussing all things city related. I didn’t know that RS……….… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted Sunday at 12:58 Share Posted Sunday at 12:58 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: I didn’t know that RS……….… It’s not you 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted Sunday at 13:03 Share Posted Sunday at 13:03 18 hours ago, redsquirrel said: i did ask him if he did and what he thought of otib, i was somewhat surprised at how he thought/knew there were some very clever people on here and considered forum users to be amongst the most loyal supporters because they actively spend some of their spare time airing their views and discussing all things city related. I would say the average intelligence levels on OTIB is far above what you find on most other forums , so Nigel is right of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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