Predicted Lineup for Swansea

[HengroveReds]

Will be a tough game, it’s not the team which id want but think it’ll be best suited to this game, I’d tighten the midfield up & bring pring in for that experience and go: 

Oleary

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

Bird Williams

Yu Knight Twine

Sincs

3 games in the next 7 days so changes will be made and players like roberts / sykes / Mehmeti / Wells / Fally will get more minutes depending on knocks and fitness etc 

Edited Saturday at 07:26 by HengroveReds

[forbespm]

Weather looking grim for the match too,heavy rain and 40mph winds.

[robin_unreliant]

5 minutes ago, HengroveReds said:

Will be a tough game, it’s not the team which id want but think it’ll be best suited to this game, I’d tighten the midfield up & bring pring in for that experience and go: 

Oleary

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

Bird Williams

Yu Knight Twine

Sincs

3 games in the next 7 days so changes will be made and players like roberts / sykes / Mehmeti / Wells / Fally will get more minutes depending on knocks and fitness etc 

Roberts in place of Pring. If Williams is picked, which I think he will be, I'd drop Knight from your line up and play Twine central and Mehmeti left.

[Son of Fred]

41 minutes ago, HengroveReds said:

Will be a tough game, it’s not the team which id want but think it’ll be best suited to this game, I’d tighten the midfield up & bring pring in for that experience and go: 

Oleary

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

Bird Williams

Yu Knight Twine

Sincs

3 games in the next 7 days so changes will be made and players like roberts / sykes / Mehmeti / Wells / Fally will get more minutes depending on knocks and fitness etc 

Good morning Liam

[Ashton Fete]

As we started the 2nd half against Oxford but would love Mehemti swapped out for Earthy but seems too soon for that

[DaveInSA]

That left side of the pitch is a massive problem isn’t it?

I don’t rate mehmeti. I put Sykes there because - who else? 

Pring has struggled - not his fault really - but rather a meandering Twine.

[HengroveReds]

37 minutes ago, DaveInSA said:

That left side of the pitch is a massive problem isn’t it?

I don’t rate mehmeti. I put Sykes there because - who else? 

Pring has struggled - not his fault really - but rather a meandering Twine.

Nice yeah I think Pring gets the nod mainly due to his defensive duties up to Robert’s and Ronald of Swansea a tricky winger may get the best of Robert’s 1v1

[Swede]

Giving the potential conditions, I would START with

Max

Tanner Vyner McNally Roberts

Sykes Bird Knight Mehmeti

Twine

Sincs

Roberts is such a good footballer ( very underrated on here) and is more adaptable.

I'd start with Sykes and bring Yu on later. There is the option to bring Cam on and Williams/Naismith for a more solid looking line up.

If we want to get anywhere this season, we have to be looking at getting 3 points at places like this. Its all in the mindset of the head coach.

[DaveInSA]

1 minute ago, Swede said:

Giving the potential conditions, I would START with

Max

Tanner Vyner McNally Roberts

Sykes Bird Knight Mehmeti

Twine

Sincs

Roberts is such a good footballer ( very underrated on here) and is more adaptable.

I'd start with Sykes and bring Yu on later. There is the option to bring Cam on and Williams/Naismith for a more solid looking line up.

If we want to get anywhere this season, we have to be looking at getting 3 points at places like this. Its all in the mindset of the head coach.

Oh dear.

[JAWS]

1 hour ago, DaveInSA said:

That left side of the pitch is a massive problem isn’t it?

I don’t rate mehmeti. I put Sykes there because - who else? 

Pring has struggled - not his fault really - but rather a meandering Twine.

I'd go with that but probably swap Skyes & Yu

[1960maaan]

2 hours ago, HengroveReds said:

Will be a tough game, it’s not the team which id want but think it’ll be best suited to this game, I’d tighten the midfield up & bring pring in for that experience and go: 

Oleary

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

Bird Williams

Yu Knight Twine

Sincs

3 games in the next 7 days so changes will be made and players like roberts / sykes / Mehmeti / Wells / Fally will get more minutes depending on knocks and fitness etc 

Manning mentioned it being away in his Presser, I think that speaks towards how he is thinking so I think your XI will be close. Maybe Mehmeti for Yu as I wonder if Manning thinks he's ready for a rainy day in Wales.

If it was me though, I'd push Knight right to allow Twine into the middle. Maybe even drop into a sort of MF 3 and Twine and Yu/Mehmeti just behind Sinclair. 
But as we are talking predicted and not my line up, we will probably be the same as we started last week with a possibility of Yu for AM.

[maxjak]

2 hours ago, HengroveReds said:

Will be a tough game, it’s not the team which id want but think it’ll be best suited to this game, I’d tighten the midfield up & bring pring in for that experience and go: 

Oleary

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

Bird Williams

Yu Knight Twine

Sincs

3 games in the next 7 days so changes will be made and players like roberts / sykes / Mehmeti / Wells / Fally will get more minutes depending on knocks and fitness etc 

Roberts cannot be dropped......it would send out completely the wrong message to the dressing room, Roberts was excellent last match, and should stay in the team.  Twine has to play at 10, and i would play Earthy instead of Williams?

[CodeRed]

I think Manning will go:

O' Leary

 

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

 

Bird Williams

 

Mehmeti Knight Twine

 

Sinclair 

 

Despite the second half v Oxford I still think he will revert to this line up. The clues were in the press conference and previous interviews where he's said a couple of times that Twine "wants to drift in from the left" , he mentioned something about Swansea "being away ". when talking about Yu, and about working on a couple of " defensive bits " re Roberts.

So being a tough away game in poor conditions I think he'll view Cam and Anis as stronger options defensively , same for Williams despite his errors.

[Back of the Dolman]

7 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

I think Manning will go:

O' Leary

 

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

 

Bird Williams

 

Mehmeti Knight Twine

 

Sinclair 

 

Despite the second half v Oxford I still think he will revert to this line up. The clues were in the press conference and previous interviews where he's said a couple of times that Twine "wants to drift in from the left" , he mentioned something about Swansea "being away ". when talking about Yu, and about working on a couple of " defensive bits " re Roberts.

So being a tough away game in poor conditions I think he'll view Cam and Anis as stronger options defensively , same for Williams despite his errors.

Can’t say I consider Anis as a stronger defensive option.

He’s weak in the tackle, is slow to anticipate and respond to opponents runs and that then results in him normally trying to challenge from the wrong side.

I agree with you that tomorrow due to the conditions that a more robust side may start the game but if that’s the case I’d put Sykes ahead of Mehmeti.

Saying that, I’m not sure how much Twine would enjoy a wet and windy afternoon in Swansea.

[Sir Geoff]

1 hour ago, HengroveReds said:

Nice yeah I think Pring gets the nod mainly due to his defensive duties up to Robert’s and Ronald of Swansea a tricky winger may get the best of Robert’s 1v1

Ronald was terrible at Ashton Gate last season, culminating in him kicking a corner 5 yards straight out for a throw in to us.

[BeggyBlaggers]

5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Ronald was terrible at Ashton Gate last season, culminating in him kicking a corner 5 yards straight out for a throw in to us.

Thats that then....Ronald puts in a MOM performance, scoring a hat trick

[Swede]

1 hour ago, DaveInSA said:

Oh dear.

Thank you for your constructive debate, very helpful and insightful. 

[MSN Red]

I would start with both Pring and Roberts down the left. Going forward we are 4 2 3 1 with Pring furthest forward on the left. Defending we are a 5 4 1 with Roberts tucking in and Pring dropping back into left back.

                               O’Leary

Tanner.        Vyner.         McNally.     Roberts

                       Knight.         Bird

Yu/Sykes.             Twine.                 Pring

                       Armstrong

[westonred]

Lets bring in McGuane to protect the back 4                    

                      Max

Tanner   Vyner   McNally   Pring

                     McGuane

          Knight    Bird      Roberts

                    Twine

                           Sincs    

[robin_unreliant]

19 minutes ago, MSN Red said:

I would start with both Pring and Roberts down the left. Going forward we are 4 2 3 1 with Pring furthest forward on the left. Defending we are a 5 4 1 with Roberts tucking in and Pring dropping back into left back.

                               O’Leary

Tanner.        Vyner.         McNally.     Roberts

                       Knight.         Bird

Yu/Sykes.             Twine.                 Pring

                       Armstrong

Nice. I'd be happy if he started with that team.

[cidercity]

2 hours ago, maxjak said:

Roberts cannot be dropped......it would send out completely the wrong message to the dressing room, Roberts was excellent last match, and should stay in the team.  Twine has to play at 10, and i would play Earthy instead of Williams?

I don’t get where this “Robert’s was great last match” has come from, he was shocking first half and only improved second half because we changed how we have played all season which meant he got help on the left. Something Pring hasn’t had all season. I think people forget Robert’s was excellent as a left sided centre half last season not a left back or left wing back.

[Baldyman]

5 hours ago, HengroveReds said:

Will be a tough game, it’s not the team which id want but think it’ll be best suited to this game, I’d tighten the midfield up & bring pring in for that experience and go: 

Oleary

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

Bird Williams

Yu Knight Twine

Sincs

3 games in the next 7 days so changes will be made and players like roberts / sykes / Mehmeti / Wells / Fally will get more minutes depending on knocks and fitness etc 

Spot on with that line up I’d say BUT I’d rather see Twine in place of Knight and Knight in place of Williams giving Mehmeti the wide left spot . 

Edited Saturday at 12:40 by Baldyman

[DaveInSA]

2 hours ago, Swede said:

Thank you for your constructive debate, very helpful and insightful. 

No problem.

the bloke is a complete mood hoover.

if you want him to motivate the players, you’re looking for trouble.

[Sleepy1968]

3 hours ago, maxjak said:

Roberts was excellent last match, and should stay in the team.

He looked good going forward, but defensively he had a few lapses. Most notably in the first half where he fell asleep in our box only for the attacker to muck up.

On balance I'd keep him in, but could understand if Pring got the nod.

I'm not adverse to playing Roberts in front of Pring.

[headhunter]

3 hours ago, CodeRed said:

I think Manning will go:

O' Leary

 

Tanner Vyner McNally Pring

 

Bird Williams

 

Mehmeti Knight Twine

 

Sinclair 

 

Despite the second half v Oxford I still think he will revert to this line up. The clues were in the press conference and previous interviews where he's said a couple of times that Twine "wants to drift in from the left" , he mentioned something about Swansea "being away ". when talking about Yu, and about working on a couple of " defensive bits " re Roberts.

So being a tough away game in poor conditions I think he'll view Cam and Anis as stronger options defensively , same for Williams despite his errors.

"Anis a stronger option" you're not being serious are you?

If you want to be strong on left side you play Roberts and Pring who can support each other when one pushes forward.

[headhunter]

2 hours ago, westonred said:

Lets bring in McGuane to protect the back 4                    

                      Max

Tanner   Vyner   McNally   Pring

                     McGuane

          Knight    Bird      Roberts

                    Twine

                           Sincs    

Naismith can play the "protect" role, in fact that's the only slot for him as he is a liability as a last line defender.

[CodeRed]

8 minutes ago, headhunter said:

"Anis a stronger option" you're not being serious are you?

If you want to be strong on left side you play Roberts and Pring who can support each other when one pushes forward.

It's not what I'd do, I'm predicting what Liam will do, he likes Mehmeti .

[BobBobBobbin]

I hope Liam considers the impact of the weather when selecting the team and approach for tomorrow. Swansea will probably never refrain from they're identity under LW, so there's an opportunity there to take advantage. 

I know Joe has been shite recently, but this is the sort of game and environment where we might need his dogged, aggressive nature more than the guile of a Twine type. 

 

[A Horse With No Name]

7 hours ago, maxjak said:

Roberts cannot be dropped......it would send out completely the wrong message to the dressing room, Roberts was excellent last match, and should stay in the team.  Twine has to play at 10, and i would play Earthy instead of Williams?

Roberts was absolutely horrendous in the first half last week, but better after the break. Earthy will not go straight into the team, more an appearance from the bench.

Edited Saturday at 16:51 by A Horse With No Name

[old_eastender]

Main thing is that Twine plays central in the no.10 role, no more of this nonsense having him left side.

I can see the case for Roberts with Pring ahead of him for LHS, play Yu not Sykes and drop Williams.

[Charlie0016]

With a fully fit squad this is how we should go infront of the back 4 

 

                    Bird knight

             Yu.    Twine.    Earthy

                      Armstrong    

[johnbytheriver]

give me roberts over pring all day long.

[BobBobBobbin]

1 hour ago, Bristol City mad man said:

I really hope LM doesn’t listen to you! Sorry but don’t want Joe starting!

I understand that, but seeing as in normal playing conditions Scott Twine struggles to stay on his feet, I can't imagine what a 40mph+ gust of wind will do to our posh number 10... 

Horses for courses, for me. I'd be tempted to get both Mayulu and Sincs up top and go very, very direct in a wind like that. Force them to win headers in blustery conditions, test the keeper often. 

[1960maaan]

11 minutes ago, Bristol City mad man said:

Agree but would swap Knight for Mcguane 

Interested in why ?

Swap the Captain, who has started every game, for someone who hasn't managed even a minute from the bench. 

[PortInTheMorning]

                          Max

     Tanner  Vyner  McNally Roberts

                   Bird  Knight

           Yu       Twine       Mehmeti 

                   Armstrong

Edited Saturday at 20:36 by PortInTheMorning

[1960maaan]

Just now, Bristol City mad man said:

But no chance of this happening tomorrow 

As I said earlier, I think Manning mentioning Roberts's defending and it being away, he goes back to the starting XI from Oxford. He strikes me as safety first at the best of times and I have a horrible feeling we get the Twine left and Knight central while the better defender (Pring) starts at LB. 
As for McGuane , I don't see someone with no minutes from the bench starting any time soon. I don't know why he hasn't had at least a few minutes, it does seem strange . 

[Dolman Block B]

7 minutes ago, Bristol City mad man said:

But no chance of this happening tomorrow 

Pretty sure that’s the team we will see

Be my choice 

[stephenkibby.]

Can't believe how many on here have a starting line up without Yu.

Even players picked depending on the conditions? WTF.

[CodeRed]

1 hour ago, stephenkibby. said:

Can't believe how many on here have a starting line up without Yu.

Even players picked depending on the conditions? WTF.

We're predicting what Liam will do, not what we would do.

 

[PortInTheMorning]

11 hours ago, Bristol City mad man said:

Agree but would swap Knight for Mcguane 

That's an interesting shout...

Of course, it's highly unlikey that LM would drop his captain. I do think it would be justified though, as he really hasn't impressed thus far. 

I'd probably bring on Mcgaune for Knight around the 60 minute mark if things aren't going well.

[Fuber]

Knight plays high on occasion for Ireland, usually on the right. However we simply cannot start Williams. Sykes and Anis (inparticular) have been pretty poor.

So would probably go -

O'Leary,

Tanner, Vyner, McNally, Roberts.

Bird, Knight.

Hirakawa, Twine, Wells.

Sincs.

Would add Morrison to the bench as options as a natural wide left option likely in place of Cornick, or drop Anis completely as useless from the bench usually.

To amend, this is assuming Earthy isn't fit.

Edited Sunday at 08:13 by Fuber

[Davefevs]

46 minutes ago, PortInTheMorning said:

That's an interesting shout...

Of course, it's highly unlikey that LM would drop his captain. I do think it would be justified though, as he really hasn't impressed thus far. 

I'd probably bring on Mcgaune for Knight around the 60 minute mark if things aren't going well.

Knight played pretty well last week imho

[PortInTheMorning]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Knight played pretty well last week imho

He did - and there was that nice assist. But I mean it more generally:

the energy and work rate is still there from last season, but this season he seems more "lightweight". He's going down too easy and turning the ball over more. 

Maybe he got used to playing in a 10 (a position in which I think he was really good) and is struggling to revert to an 8. There's also the added burden of captaincy.

He's still one of our best players and I wouldn't drop him from the starting lineup. But as stated above, I would give Mcguane a run second half if we're not playing well.

 

 

[Son of Fred]

2 hours ago, PortInTheMorning said:

That's an interesting shout...

Of course, it's highly unlikey that LM would drop his captain. I do think it would be justified though, as he really hasn't impressed thus far. 

I'd probably bring on Mcgaune for Knight around the 60 minute mark if things aren't going well.

Club Captain shouldn't be immune from taking a break from the starting 11 - imo he's been generally lacking in quality this season & could do with a reminder....

[PortInTheMorning]

55 minutes ago, Son of Fred said:

Club Captain shouldn't be immune from taking a break from the starting 11 - imo he's been generally lacking in quality this season & could do with a reminder....

Sorry, but with which part of my post are you taking issue? The part where I said LM is unlikely to drop his captain? This is just a fact: most managers are reluctant to drop their captain. This is very different from me saying he shouldn't be dropped at all: I even said it would be justified to drop him as he hasn't impressed thus far. Did you even read my post? I said he looks lightweight and is turning the ball over too much.

I then clarified my position in a different post that I wouldn't drop him for this game due to the credit he has from last season, his fairly decent performance last game and the fact that he seems to be taking more time than expected to revert to an 8. But I would drop him soon if he doesn't improve - the most rational way is to start by subbing him early if he isnt playing well and then to drop him if it continues.

Edited Sunday at 11:06 by PortInTheMorning

[maxjak]

18 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Roberts was absolutely horrendous in the first half last week, but better after the break. Earthy will not go straight into the team, more an appearance from the bench.

"Horrendous" is a bit over the top, he grew into the game...which was understandable considering it was his first start of the season?  PS i i never understand the Confused  emoji.....It seems to mean nothing, apart from giving the impression that the poster cannot articulate a reply?;

[GrahamC]

16 hours ago, PortInTheMorning said:

                          Max

     Tanner  Vyner  McNally Roberts

                   Bird  Knight

           Yu       Twine       Mehmeti 

                   Armstrong

Spot on.