Excellent performance

[cidercity1987]

Double the shots

Tripled the shots on target

Quadruple the blocked shots

Referee inflicted goal conceded

I'm enthused by that performance but such a shame we've been so dominant in all three of our draws, 6 points dropped

 

 

[TammyAB]

Wouldn't go that far.

[One Team]

Hang on, it was a decent away point and much improved second half but an excellent performance? There was as much of concern as praise in my view. Anis did well, good goal from Knight but some of the defending especially first half was woeful. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

I'd say 2 wins and 1 draw would've been fair from those 3 draws taking the games as a whole.

[petehinton]

Blimey

[Roe]

Yes, another excellent draw against a mid table at best championship side

Oh how lucky we are to see the progress

[Jackson Lamb]

If we label that as an excellent performance then we really have lowered the bar back to the LJ and Holden days.

A deserved point but far away from an excellent performance.

[Bs4Red]

We certainly look dangerous when we get the ball to our ball players. Can’t look past just how bad we are without the ball though. No leadership and a major lack of steel until Williams come on. 
FWIW I don’t think it’s a foul, it’s extremely poor goalkeeping and highlights how lightweight he is, stayed in the contact because he didn’t want to come and command his area. 
Think we deserved a point but still a lot there not to like. I’m a massive fan of LM but the lack of balance between attack and defence is worrying. 
Yu cannot start games if he isn’t going to work defensively. 
I’ve said it a million times but with Max and Vyner as your starting keeper and centre back, you are never getting play offs in this division. 

[And Its Smith]

4 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Double the shots

Tripled the shots on target

Quadruple the blocked shots

Referee inflicted goal conceded

I'm enthused by that performance but such a shame we've been so dominant in all three of our draws, 6 points dropped

 

 

Haha nice work!  Will get a few nibbles 

[lenred]

Very good final quarter of the game and some good performances.   Mehmeti really good, Knight showing great desire to score the highlights.  But to call that ‘excellent’ is crazy.   Decent point as most away points usually are.  

[ZiderEyed]

Point away is always good. I'm deeply concerned about Manning but there are green shoots in that performance imo.

[AppyDAZE]

I only caught the second half due to work and stuff 

Heard the second half, sounded like there was only one team playing.

 

[wheretheheartis]

Mehmeti, best performance in a city shirt

[real_bristol]

Yeah I think a win would have made it “excellent”. Excellent compared to the previous two away performances and under the circumstances a very good point. The circumstances being Swansea looking for their 3rd win on the bounce and the referee being somewhat one sided. 
We still need to finish some of these chances but a well battled performance against a strong aggressive team. 
 

Need to build on that and get a run going.

Safe journey back to those that travelled.

Up the City.

[luke_bristol]

Brian?

[Topper 123]

Nothing excellent about it , keeper is a liability if he has to come out of goal then CLEAR it , tip tap passing with nobody in the net ffs defence badly miss dickie 

[fly in the air]

For me a good point away from home. hard fought. would have taken that at the start.Downside is the keeper and Zac. both need replacing. hopefully Big Rob will be back soon. not sure how good Bajic is if not the answer then Jan we will need a new keeper. 

[Flamin Groovy]

3 minutes ago, wheretheheartis said:

Mehmeti, best performance in a city shirt

Agree. Thought he was excellent today. 

[petehinton]

5 minutes ago, wheretheheartis said:

Mehmeti, best performance in a city shirt

If he can keep that as his ‘average’ level, and learn when to actually pass the ball at the right time, he will be in the Prem in no time. 

[Cidre Monita]

And against a truly awful Swansea team. Sorry nothing to celebrate about today’s performance. 

[cidercity1987]

7 saves by their man of the match. 1 by ours.

We should have won that with ease but same story of risky summer recruitment up front and something strange going on at the back means we need so many more chances than the opposition to score 

[Super]

3 minutes ago, Cidre Monita said:

And against a truly awful Swansea team. Sorry nothing to celebrate about today’s performance. 

Funny how every team we get a result against are truly awful.

[Roe]

Let's see what happens in the week. We now have 2 home games before the next break and a great chance to kick into the top half

Nobody wants us to fail, but if people are upset about the fact that moving up to 14th in the table gets a bit of criticism and doubts, then I'm not sure what that says about how prepared we'd be for an actual play off challenge

[Henry]

We were terrible at times, decent at best.

[W-S-M Seagull]

13 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

7 saves by their man of the match. 1 by ours.

We should have won that with ease but same story of risky summer recruitment up front and something strange going on at the back means we need so many more chances than the opposition to score 

So not an excellent performance then? 

[LondonBristolian]

It's a decent point but I just can't shake the feeling that we've got a manager who will continue to do enough to avoid being sacked whilst not doing enough to ever really push the club on. We had four and a bit years of that from 2016 - 2020 and my heart sinks at the prospect of going through it again. 

[W-S-M Seagull]

5 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

It's a decent point but I just can't shake the feeling that we've got a manager who will continue to do enough to avoid being sacked whilst not doing enough to ever really push the club on. We had four and a bit years of that from 2016 - 2020 and my heart sinks at the prospect of going through it again. 

This is it.

It's still the same win lose draw and repeat. 

I'm struggling to see any real improvement. Yes we've improved going forward but we've got worse defensively so ultimately it's just the same. 

[redkev]

13 minutes ago, Roe said:

Let's see what happens in the week. We now have 2 home games before the next break and a great chance to kick into the top half

Nobody wants us to fail, but if people are upset about the fact that moving up to 14th in the table gets a bit of criticism and doubts, then I'm not sure what that says about how prepared we'd be for an actual play off challenge

City with 2 homes games in a week ummmm , can’t remember the last time we won a night game followed by a Saturday game or vice versa , I will assure you it ain’t often 

[Randy Marsh II]

If the aim is to be promoted you ask yourself do you believe Manning is capable of doing that - if the answer isn't yes, you move on and find someone that makes you say yes. I find it weird we never take that approach - unless the aim isn't to be promoted in which case, it makes sense....

[REDOXO]

23 minutes ago, wheretheheartis said:

Mehmeti, best performance in a city shirt

He had a very good second half without doubt. 
 

I’m not sure I was as enthused as the OP however we are good in some areas and not so much in others. 
 

we really have to take the chances we create, particularly in the first half. Goals change games and how they are played and yet again we are chasing after not scoring. I understand what Mr Manning said about Armstrong, that if he was the finished article he wouldn’t be here, but now is the time! 

[Severn Beach Pigeon]

13 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

So not an excellent performance then? 

love to know how you think Swansea would have scored 4 with their 2 shots on target

[Red-Robbo]

22 minutes ago, Super said:

Funny how every team we get a result against are truly awful.

The "awful" side who were 9th and had won their two previous games... 

[Severn Beach Pigeon]

2 minutes ago, Randy Marsh II said:

If the aim is to be promoted you ask yourself do you believe Manning is capable of doing that - if the answer isn't yes, you move on and find someone that makes you say yes. I find it weird we never take that approach - unless the aim isn't to be promoted in which case, it makes sense....

take that attitude and every club will get through a dozen managers every season.

 

[marksy]

45 minutes ago, One Team said:

Hang on, it was a decent away point and much improved second half but an excellent performance? There was as much of concern as praise in my view. Anis did well, good goal from Knight but some of the defending especially first half was woeful. 

Especially first half? They didn’t a shot in the second half! They’ll be more happy with the point than us.

[cidercity1987]

20 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

So not an excellent performance then? 

I dunno, depends if results are the be all and end all in analysing performance 

But from what I saw we've done everything but win that and made a team 7th before the weekend look very poor

Edited Sunday at 16:44 by cidercity1987

[Redrascal2]

1 hour ago, fly in the air said:

For me a good point away from home. hard fought. would have taken that at the start.Downside is the keeper and Zac. both need replacing. hopefully Big Rob will be back soon. not sure how good Bajic is if not the answer then Jan we will need a new keeper. 

O'Leary guaranteed to play however many mistakes he makes. No competition for his place and it has been like that since Bentley left. 

[steviestevieneville]

1 hour ago, cidercity1987 said:

Double the shots

Tripled the shots on target

Quadruple the blocked shots

Referee inflicted goal conceded

I'm enthused by that performance but such a shame we've been so dominant in all three of our draws, 6 points dropped

 

 

If I’ve told you once I’ve told you a billion times not to exaggerate .

decent performance second half , but we don’t take enough of our chances & we look very shaky at the back. I do also worry about a lack of control in midfield . Bird was poor again today . I’m not in the camp of thinking he’s this excellent player a lot would have us believe . 

[BobBobBobbin]

It wasn't excellent, but it was anywhere between Ok and good in every aspect apart from the two most important parts; defending set pieces and converting chances. 

We played some good stuff, I was pleased to see that Liam changed our approach to be a bit more direct, not necessarily high balls, but we went from back to front at a decent pace. Yu was relatively quiet but was still head and shoulders above everything else on the pitch for us; he's going to be a very good player. 

I thought Sykes was excellent when he came on, easily his best performance in a long while. Looked like the Sykes we all adored in his first season and a half.

Darwin Armstrong is an enigma. But I'd rather have him than not. Anis was a lot better from the left. I thought Twine was crap, tbh. I can't warm to the guy at all. 

The set piece thing is becoming an issue that needs a complete rethink. I can't figure out what the hell we are doing in there each week tbh, a total lack of aggression and will to keep the ball out of our net coupled with some very strange approaches to marking. 

We were the better side by a fair margin, I don't think they produced anything that wasn't down to our own mistakes. 

I've always been a believer in trusting a process and results will follow. It's just the way we are defending that's stopping me from feeling that way at the moment. 

 

[BCFC31]

Original poster on the wind up. Another crap draw.

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said:

If I’ve told you once I’ve told you a billion times not to exaggerate .

decent performance second half , but we don’t take enough of our chances & we look very shaky at the back. I do also worry about a lack of control in midfield . Bird was poor again today . I’m not in the camp of thinking he’s this excellent player a lot would have us believe . 

I think Bird is a good player, but today he was very poor, Cooper ran him all over the place…and blew our midfield up as a result.  Him and Knight didn’t play as a pair.

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

1 hour ago, luke_bristol said:

Brian?

No. No spelling mistakes.

[Spudgun]

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

This is it.

It's still the same win lose draw and repeat. 

I'm struggling to see any real improvement. Yes we've improved going forward but we've got worse defensively so ultimately it's just the same. 

Have we? Not sure about that.

[Jerseybean]

A few observations on this afternoon’s game.

We were well worth a point and if we could take chances, it would’ve been three.

Starting to see a number of recurring themes, including: AM is a bag of tricks generally with no end product, YH is a bag of tricks with an end product, Armstrong is a handful but doesn’t know how to put the ball in the net, Twine for a large part of the game is invisible and then creates a goal (today with a great delivery from a corner), perhaps not yet a recurring theme but for the second week running we score in the 76th minute.

The traveling fans were as vocal as ever and a great credit to the club.

It was good to see Manning making some substitutions in a less robotic fashion, let’s hope that Roberts hasn’t picked up a serious injury.

Wouldn't use use the word ‘excellent’ probably more ‘workman-like’ 

However, if we are comparing it with our performances against Derby and Blackburn it might well be considered ‘excellent’ 

 

[StGeorge]

Can't disagree with any of that. 

[Jimmyjimmy]

Can’t be positive on here mate. Have to find the negatives and get the usual suspects to back you up with their 100s of posts per day.

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Spudgun said:

Have we? Not sure about that.

We have, not in clinical chance taking terms but creating good chances we are definitely improving. Their keeper made a great save first half, Sinclair should have buried the 1 v 1 (his first chance when he hit the post was not as simple as a few are making out). It wasn’t that long ago when 0 or 1 shots first half was a common occurrence.

Our major issue is NEEDING to score at least twice to have any chance of winning a game.

[steviestevieneville]

16 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think Bird is a good player, but today he was very poor, Cooper ran him all over the place…and blew our midfield up as a result.  Him and Knight didn’t play as a pair.

Not the first time we’ve struggled in midfield imo Dave. Admittedly bird was playing more advanced then. We really do miss Matty James control in there 

[BeggyBlaggers]

Excellent performance?

 

I havent seen such a frail defence since the OJ Simpson trial

[STFreeloader]

It absolutely reeked of mid table as usual. 

[DSTAF]

We were ok. Not play off material, but not relegation either. Half decent. 

[italian dave]

2 hours ago, Cidre Monita said:

And against a truly awful Swansea team. Sorry nothing to celebrate about today’s performance. 

Oh come on! If the OP is a wind up, then what’s this?!

It might be an exaggeration to call our performance ‘excellent’, but to call Swansea truly awful is just laughable.

Top half, only three sides have conceded fewer goals. They did what Swansea usually do: they held the ball well, they passed well. They struggle to turn their possession into goals. But they weren’t bad.

It wasn’t our greatest away day, but it was an OK performance, and after the last two away games, there was plenty to celebrate. 

[mozo]

2 hours ago, Cidre Monita said:

And against a truly awful Swansea team. Sorry nothing to celebrate about today’s performance. 

I'll add this to my list!

[AppyDAZE]

1 hour ago, BeggyBlaggers said:

Excellent performance?

 

I havent seen such a frail defence since the OJ Simpson trial

Hold on, let’s see what JET’s team are gonna come up with first.

I swear we thought we was just importing exotic vegetables, m’lud.

Edited Sunday at 19:10 by AppyDAZE

[redsquirrel]

it would have been a shit sunday if we lost , but we didnt and got a point. best thing thats happened today

['Pack' It In]

Maybe, I was expecting to see absolute dross.

But I was pleasantly surprised by the style of play.

Felt that is was well competed, but wonder why we have to surrender the possession to make this style of play work (sort of).

Can we just play on the front foot, instead of allowing the opposition to dominate.

Just on this game alone, Max O'Leary needs some serious competition, as it seemed a bit like he was he knew he can put in a shite performance and still play.  He needs to be kept on his toes, can we get a decent enough keeper January to make the position competitive. Maybe Max needs a major wake up call. Vyner also become distinctly average this year.

Might need to see this season through and strengthen GK and defensive line more in the close season.

 

[Charlie0016]

3 hours ago, Roe said:

Let's see what happens in the week. We now have 2 home games before the next break and a great chance to kick into the top half

Nobody wants us to fail, but if people are upset about the fact that moving up to 14th in the table gets a bit of criticism and doubts, then I'm not sure what that says about how prepared we'd be for an actual play off challenge

Down to 14th;)

[mozo]

I wouldn't go as far as to describe the performance as excellent, but like against Oxford, we were up against a team in the top half and presumably high in confidence, so any draw away from home is good. But to do so with the majority of the attacking play is extra pleasing.

The annoying bit is that we're 14th and tracking behind target, so we need some wins to get us back on track.

[temp]

lack fire power up front and way too many defensive errors to make progress, but an open game which we could have won or lost so a point is better than nothing.

[Fuber]

Becoming a theme under Manning.

We can manage a good 45 minutes, but that's it.

Millwall, it was the first 30 and final 15.

Oxford poor first half, didn't make it count, second half only improved (in possession) after Yu came on. Looked vulnerable on transition.

Today, first half improved as it went on, but pretty back and forth before we grew it between 65-85, but still not threatening enough in oepn play.

We're yet to see a 'good performance' where we're dominant and solid. Problem being, we were - already - pretty solid.

Today was incredibly irritating as someone should have out themselves between O'Leary and Ronald. Easily preventable.

Parts of our play were good. Defending, however, still needs looking at.

[W-S-M Seagull]

22 minutes ago, mozo said:

The annoying bit is that we're 14th and tracking behind target, so we need some wins to get us back on track.

I have always said I would give it until 10 games to draw any firm conclusions.  

However after 7 games we are going to need to win 2 out of 3 just to equal last seasons 15 points from 10 games. With 2 winnable games coming up then thats entirely possible. Is it possible to win 3 out of 3? Yes but not probable.

Also our first 10 games this season are not 100% comparable to the first 10 games last season. We've had a bit more of a favourable first 10 games this season. 

For us to be pushing forward, especially with the money spent then we do need to improve our ppg total from the next block of 10 which on paper is a tougher block of 10 games. 

[Dastardly and Muttley]

We were ok. Probably should have won it by the end, but still we couldn’t get over the line. Could easily have been 3-1 down at half time.

Still, we got a point in a game we won last season. 4 points down now versus the equivalent games last season. Not looking good for Tinnion’s +10 points target.

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I have always said I would give it until 10 games to draw any firm conclusions.  

However after 7 games we are going to need to win 2 out of 3 just to equal last seasons 15 points from 10 games. With 2 winnable games coming up then thats entirely possible. Is it possible to win 3 out of 3? Yes but not probable.

Also our first 10 games this season are not 100% comparable to the first 10 games last season. We've had a bit more of a favourable first 10 games this season. 

For us to be pushing forward, especially with the money spent then we do need to improve our ppg total from the next block of 10 which on paper is a tougher block of 10 games. 

@Fuber is right (imho) about not getting that 90 minute performance, and I’m not expecting us to dominate 90 minutes.  We play in spells, and we look good…and the opposite too.  We are Jekyll and Hyde, both as a team and individuals.

I’ll just keep evaluating a game at a time…I think it’s actually quite hard to draw any conclusion other than it’s a mixed bag.

[Ashtongreight]

6 hours ago, Randy Marsh II said:

If the aim is to be promoted you ask yourself do you believe Manning is capable of doing that - if the answer isn't yes, you move on and find someone that makes you say yes. I find it weird we never take that approach - unless the aim isn't to be promoted in which case, it makes sense....

It’s not as easy as that is it?, we can only pick between managers that will come here. Most of the time we just chose between the best of a bad bunch. Then what? Get rid after how long?, only to then once again chose from a similar level of candidate. Then rinse and repeat. 

[Dastardly and Muttley]

9 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

@Fuber is right (imho) about not getting that 90 minute performance, and I’m not expecting us to dominate 90 minutes.  We play in spells, and we look good…and the opposite too.  We are Jekyll and Hyde, both as a team and individuals.

I’ll just keep evaluating a game at a time…I think it’s actually quite hard to draw any conclusion other than it’s a mixed bag.

It’s purgatory. We’re going nowhere fast, but equally we’re not dropping either.

Manning is never going to take us up and never going to take us down. Destined for purgatory for years, IMO.

[FNQ]

Not excellent, but not bad either.. at least, unlike our last two away games, we were in it to the end and if anything looked the more likely to go on and win.

Thought Knights header was a pearler.. sheer effort and determination. Again, wasn’t overly impressed with his overall performance though.

Great game by Anis, was a right handful throughout.

Thought that all the subs who came on added a bit too.

[Major Isewater]

9 hours ago, 'Pack' It In said:

Vyner also become distinctly average this year.

Since Manning took over. It’s almost like he had a former top class centre half coaching him before. 

[Charlie BCFC]

13 hours ago, Cidre Monita said:

And against a truly awful Swansea team. Sorry nothing to celebrate about today’s performance. 

Awful? Had they won today they’d be outside the playoffs on goal difference 

[Major Isewater]

15 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Awful? Had they won today they’d be outside the playoffs on goal difference 

Had we won we would have been two points off the top six but we didn’t. 

[mozo]

8 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I have always said I would give it until 10 games to draw any firm conclusions.  

However after 7 games we are going to need to win 2 out of 3 just to equal last seasons 15 points from 10 games. With 2 winnable games coming up then thats entirely possible. Is it possible to win 3 out of 3? Yes but not probable.

Also our first 10 games this season are not 100% comparable to the first 10 games last season. We've had a bit more of a favourable first 10 games this season. 

For us to be pushing forward, especially with the money spent then we do need to improve our ppg total from the next block of 10 which on paper is a tougher block of 10 games. 

I'm not so bothered about comparing with the first block last season, but more just getting the ppg up to the required rate.

12 or 13 points would be disappointing. 15 is fine, but 16+ is a good start to keep you in touch with playoffs. 

I'd love to think we could just win these next two home games and have the points in the bag to settle us all down, but I bet the games won't be straightforward.

 

 

[FNQ]

20 minutes ago, mozo said:

I'm not so bothered about comparing with the first block last season, but more just getting the ppg up to the required rate.

12 or 13 points would be disappointing. 15 is fine, but 16+ is a good start to keep you in touch with playoffs. 

I'd love to think we could just win these next two home games and have the points in the bag to settle us all down, but I bet the games won't be straightforward.

 

 

I’m actually a little worried about the Cardiff game, I watched the full replay yesterday and to be honest the 4-1 result hugely flattered Hull, they not going to be a pushover. Cardiff like us also drew 1-1 at Swansea this season, and losing go Cardiff last year was the final straw for our knowledgeable owners.

Like you though I’m not drawing any conclusions on the first 10 games either, for me it’s where we’re at after the first 14 that will be the true acid test.. 18 points last year was deemed nowhere near good enough.. So at the half way mark after 7 games we’re on 9 points, it could go down to the wire.. Liam really needs to win these next two.