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Saw online that John Textor is considering his options.

His Everton takeover seems to have been pipped by Friedkin, as well as PL and probably European Clubs, it is stated that he has a Championship Club in mind...No names however.

https://www.tribalfootball.com/article/soccer-championship-billionaire-textor-could-buy-championship-side-after-failing-with-everton-attempt-78f0870a-c062-4aa6-af9f-a8a5f4adeb76

We have strong infrastructure, mind you so do Derby and Sunderland e.g. probably stronger in their case in certain aspects.

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Really wish it was true. We are in need of change.

It does often make me wonder why an American or an Arab business owner has not shown interest in Bristol City. Unless it’s Lansdowns valuation and that  it’s you buy everything not just the football under the BS umbrella.

So much potential. So so wasted.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Saw online that John Textor is considering his options.

His Everton takeover seems to have been pipped by Friedkin, as well as PL and probably European Clubs, it is stated that he has a Championship Club in mind...No names however.

https://www.tribalfootball.com/article/soccer-championship-billionaire-textor-could-buy-championship-side-after-failing-with-everton-attempt-78f0870a-c062-4aa6-af9f-a8a5f4adeb76

We have strong infrastructure, mind you so do Derby and Sunderland e.g. probably stronger in their case in certain aspects.

The Athletic Daily did a pod about him a few weeks back, when discussing the Everton takeover. Sounds like he got stitched up at Palace, which does beg some questions about his nous regarding football...

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5 minutes ago, BigTone said:

SL has a greater nett worth so why would we want him ?  Is he some kind of football guru / genius ?

Sometimes it isn't just about the money. Fresh impetus on solid foundations can push a Club or organisation on, energy, ideas. Revitalisation. 

5 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

Hmmmm...but for every good owner, there's a Venkys...

True but..sometimes there needs to be a bit of a chance. It's harder now to spend recklessly given FFP.

4 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

Really, for someone from abroad with no other bias, you would pick Sunderland over us nearly every time

Agreed. Who knows if Sufnrslfn are for sale, just thinking of theoretical with strong infrastructure.

Otoh another bit says QPR and Watford, I suppose London has a major pull.

I wonder what a fair price for us is.

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Well he was struggling to raise the cash for Palace, and was structuring that all through debt, but was reluctant to actually give his co-investors proper security over their lending or control over the eventual asset. So on that basis no thanks, I'd like an owner who puts his own money in and actually has to account to co-investors.

Secondly, whoever he buys is immediately going to be part of the group listed in the NYSE. I'm again not too sure if like us to be part of that.

Thirdly, he was raising (and struggling to raise) £200m for Everton...which is reportedly the price we're up for. So we are top, top budget if it is us.

Fourthly, he still needs to sell Palace, which he was struggling to do. He can chat all he wants but until he finds someone to buy his Palace shares he's buying no one.

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28 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

The Athletic Daily did a pod about him a few weeks back, when discussing the Everton takeover. Sounds like he got stitched up at Palace, which does beg some questions about his nous regarding football...

He ****** up the negotiation of his purchase. Wasn't so much him being stitched up, more he didn't quite understand the terms. Also Steve Parish is a ***.

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1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said:

He ****** up the negotiation of his purchase. Wasn't so much him being stitched up, more he didn't quite understand the terms. Also Steve Parish is a ***.

So he's just what we need / want ................... NOT !!

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22 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

QPR and Watford certainly have lesser infrastructure already in play, they're London and they were PL but post Parachutes if Watford don't go up this year eg then it could only get trickier.

The thing with QPR is the brick wall Fernandes hit - they've got a small stadium and have struggled to find a site to build a larger one. Plus they're increasingly crowded out with Brentford doing well as well as Fulham and Chelsea in the catchment area. I get the appeal of a London club but I think QPR is a much less promising investment than it would initially appear. 

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56 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

Hmmmm...but for every good owner, there's a Venkys...

There's always a risk. Fans are often quick to point out that a players legs have gone, or the manager has run out of ideas and has taken us as far as he can.

Steve Lansdown is the owner equivalent of the above.

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2 hours ago, Jackson Lamb said:

Really wish it was true. We are in need of change.

It does often make me wonder why an American or an Arab business owner has not shown interest in Bristol City. Unless it’s Lansdowns valuation and that  it’s you buy everything not just the football under the BS umbrella.

So much potential. So so wasted.

 

 

Think thats why he cant sell .Too many add ons that nobodys interested in.

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23 minutes ago, Cityboy1954 said:

Think thats why he cant sell .Too many add ons that nobodys interested in.

Is the thing though, Birmingham new owner- Sports Quarter.

Hull Owner talks about something similar or did 

Marinakiis seems to have invested in another Sport at Nottingham Forest.

Is it a matter of money or principle? How much are Knighthead throwing at Birmingham, there is no doubt that both the top Revenue and the top Cost Base is the Football side.

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2 hours ago, BigTone said:

SL has a greater nett worth so why would we want him ?  Is he some kind of football guru / genius ?

Because the grass is always so much greener on the other side and so much better off having an unknown owner with no connection to the area.

Of course fresh eyes and impetus may be better and the extra push we need, or could be a disaster that see's us completing with the gases fake shake, but some just want the gamble because being a stable championship club is not good enough.

FWIW, I am not against a sale or investment, I trust SL to allow the right outside investor to come in, as he does not need the money, so will not just sell to anyone without protecting what he has built

No investor is better than the wrong investor

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11 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Because the grass is always so much greener on the other side and so much better off having an unknown owner with no connection to the area.

Of course fresh eyes and impetus may be better and the extra push we need, or could be a disaster that see's us completing with the gases fake shake, but some just want the gamble because being a stable championship club is not good enough.

FWIW, I am not against a sale or investment, I trust SL to allow the right outside investor to come in, as he does not need the money, so will not just sell to anyone without protecting what he has built

No investor is better than the wrong investor

Absolutely bang on agree 100% but for some on here anyone is better than SL which I cannot get my head around

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27 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

These Venkys?

"After the the last two transfer windows, Rovers have taken in more than £30million in transfer fees. Little of those funds have been spent"

Oop north newspaper

There are some or have been some difficulties there about Venkys and overseas investment so there is an element of Future planning at play.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24534836.blackburns-financial-picture-venkys-court-case-delay/

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1 hour ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

FWIW, I am not against a sale or investment, I trust SL to allow the right outside investor to come in, as he does not need the money, so will not just sell to anyone without protecting what he has built

No investor is better than the wrong investor

Completely. And same old argument. SL is in charge of the sale, it’s not being forced on him. So we shouldn’t need to worry should we?  There is no hostile takeover mooted.

So I want new owners, and because it’s under SL’s control I’m totally relaxed. I don’t need to be “careful for what I wish for”, that’s not a true scenario.

Unless SL isn’t who we think he is. And I don’t. 

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7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Completely. And same old argument. SL is in charge of the sale, it’s not being forced on him. So we shouldn’t need to worry should we?  There is no hostile takeover mooted.

So I want new owners, and because it’s under SL’s control I’m totally relaxed. I don’t need to be “careful for what I wish for”, that’s not a true scenario.

Unless SL isn’t who we think he is. And I don’t. 

agree. I do think the club needs a change at the top but I don’t think for a minute SL would sell to any charlatan. Wasn’t there a strong rumour that 777 were interested & he told them where to go.   

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1 hour ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Because the grass is always so much greener on the other side and so much better off having an unknown owner with no connection to the area.

Of course fresh eyes and impetus may be better and the extra push we need, or could be a disaster that see's us completing with the gases fake shake, but some just want the gamble because being a stable championship club is not good enough.

FWIW, I am not against a sale or investment, I trust SL to allow the right outside investor to come in, as he does not need the money, so will not just sell to anyone without protecting what he has built

No investor is better than the wrong investor

I get it on one level.

We'll be safe with SL and the Sporting Quarter again we should see as good and praiseworthy, grateful even perhaps.

The more Income Streams the more we can invest...albeit also the more Income Streams the closer to self-suifficency that we maybe.

I digress..

*Championship solidity

*Relatively young squad

*Potential for an entertaining style of play.

*Competitive Academy

*Ownership that won't risk financial strife (surely not after recent times).

Not a bad place to be but could it be better by redeploying Tinnion and Jon Lansdown, getting in a dedicated CEO and Established Technical Director, maybe moving Marshall more to Group etc.

Again cost permitting but a serious play for Category One within the next 5 years maybe?

These are just ideas to improve on what we have.. we're reasonable, question is are we striving enough at all times.

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25 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Completely. And same old argument. SL is in charge of the sale, it’s not being forced on him. So we shouldn’t need to worry should we?  There is no hostile takeover mooted.

So I want new owners, and because it’s under SL’s control I’m totally relaxed. I don’t need to be “careful for what I wish for”, that’s not a true scenario.

Unless SL isn’t who we think he is. And I don’t. 

The worry for me is that SL is not getting any younger. 

Obviously it goes without saying that I hope he lives for a very long time yet. 

But I do worry about our future if that time comes and he still owns us. 

I have full faith that SL wouldn't sell to any chancers etc. 

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30 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Completely. And same old argument. SL is in charge of the sale, it’s not being forced on him. So we shouldn’t need to worry should we?  There is no hostile takeover mooted.

So I want new owners, and because it’s under SL’s control I’m totally relaxed. I don’t need to be “careful for what I wish for”, that’s not a true scenario.

Unless SL isn’t who we think he is. And I don’t. 

you say that, and I want to agree, but wasn't there a rumour that we got pretty far down the path with those 777 people that tried to buy Everton who turned out to be rotten bastards?

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30 minutes ago, BobBobBobbin said:

you say that, and I want to agree, but wasn't there a rumour that we got pretty far down the path with those 777 people that tried to buy Everton who turned out to be rotten bastards?

No idea.

And depends how “pretty far down the path” is, doesn’t it?  Wasn’t public domain, whatever happened.

And I don’t believe they were the investment group of the two I had a tinsy-winsy bit of awareness of.

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38 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

No idea.

And depends how “pretty far down the path” is, doesn’t it?  Wasn’t public domain, whatever happened.

And I don’t believe they were the investment group of the two I had a tinsy-winsy bit of awareness of.

I knew I'd read it somewhere! 

I guess my point is, Lansdown's record regarding who he trusts to do the right thing isn't great (Ashton, Tinnion, Jon, etc) so his heart being in the right place might not necessarily be enough...

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13 minutes ago, BobBobBobbin said:

I knew I'd read it somewhere! 

I guess my point is, Lansdown's record regarding who he trusts to do the right thing isn't great (Ashton, Tinnion, Jon, etc) so his heart being in the right place might not necessarily be enough...

Ooooh, remember that post now.

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20 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Because the grass is always so much greener on the other side and so much better off having an unknown owner with no connection to the area.

Of course fresh eyes and impetus may be better and the extra push we need, or could be a disaster that see's us completing with the gases fake shake, but some just want the gamble because being a stable championship club is not good enough.

FWIW, I am not against a sale or investment, I trust SL to allow the right outside investor to come in, as he does not need the money, so will not just sell to anyone without protecting what he has built

No investor is better than the wrong investor

No, it's not good enough if that's the club's ceiling. I've not seen any evidence we're going to move past that since 2008.

As others have said, if SL is the benevolent, wonderful owner he claims to be, he won't sell the club to anyone dodgy.

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23 hours ago, Jackson Lamb said:

Really wish it was true. We are in need of change.

It does often make me wonder why an American or an Arab business owner has not shown interest in Bristol City. Unless it’s Lansdowns valuation and that  it’s you buy everything not just the football under the BS umbrella.

So much potential. So so wasted.

 

 

Glad to see the Rugby go, another means to move fixtures to irritating times, particularly for exiles.

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20 hours ago, SecretSam said:

These Venkys?

"After the the last two transfer windows, Rovers have taken in more than £30million in transfer fees. Little of those funds have been spent"

Oop north newspaper

Obviously building a nest egg for when their chickens come home to roost!

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4 hours ago, KegCity said:

No, it's not good enough if that's the club's ceiling. I've not seen any evidence we're going to move past that since 2008.

As others have said, if SL is the benevolent, wonderful owner he claims to be, he won't sell the club to anyone dodgy.

If you read my post, thats what I said

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On 01/10/2024 at 15:04, Mr Popodopolous said:

Saw online that John Textor is considering his options.

His Everton takeover seems to have been pipped by Friedkin, as well as PL and probably European Clubs, it is stated that he has a Championship Club in mind...No names however.

https://www.tribalfootball.com/article/soccer-championship-billionaire-textor-could-buy-championship-side-after-failing-with-everton-attempt-78f0870a-c062-4aa6-af9f-a8a5f4adeb76

We have strong infrastructure, mind you so do Derby and Sunderland e.g. probably stronger in their case in certain aspects.

I think you can assume the vast majority of Championship clubs are for sale. There are some interesting bargains out there , if you deem any of these loss making entities a bargain. London clubs carry a premium. From what is suggested (price) I cannot see BCFC at the moment providing investor value. 

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On 01/10/2024 at 15:09, Jackson Lamb said:

Really wish it was true. We are in need of change.

It does often make me wonder why an American or an Arab business owner has not shown interest in Bristol City. Unless it’s Lansdowns valuation and that  it’s you buy everything not just the football under the BS umbrella.

So much potential. So so wasted.

 

 

I get the impression it is because the football, rugby and basketball clubs are going as a job lot and potential buyers only want the football club

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4 hours ago, RollsRoyce said:

I think you can assume the vast majority of Championship clubs are for sale. There are some interesting bargains out there , if you deem any of these loss making entities a bargain. London clubs carry a premium. From what is suggested (price) I cannot see BCFC at the moment providing investor value. 

I mean..what Category of Academy do we have and Corporate Revenue facilities, stadium etc, relative to a range of clubs.

Of course a big sticking point is the small matter of the Rugby and Basketball- ongojng running costs not so much, but it maybe a purchase price that an investor doesn't need.

Most present Club owners will struggle to break even, let alone get an ROI IMO.

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On 01/10/2024 at 15:10, Barrs Court Red said:

Because the current owner wants to sell? 

You mean he says he does….

 

Does he really? No of course he doesn’t. Not yet. Not until the whole sporting quarter or whatever it’s called is complete, whenever that is. Years away if it even happens

 

he has no intention of selling yet. 

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