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An interesting take post match from two of our former players who rated City’s performance against Leeds as an excellent point. They both agreed that McCorrie having to go off led to four formational changes with Bird at one point actually filling the LB position.

Morrison’s contribution was also praised especially his run down the left easing the pressure and giving the defence a breather,

Well worth watching. It’s on YouTube but I can’t get the link to work……..:dunno:


 

 

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19 minutes ago, Robbored said:

An interesting take post match from two of our former players who rated City’s performance against Leeds as an excellent point. They both agreed that McCorrie having to go off led to four formational changes with Bird at one point actually filling the LB position.

Morrison’s contribution was also praised especially his run down the left easing the pressure and giving the defence a breather,

Well worth watching. It’s on YouTube but I can’t get the link to work……..:dunno:

 

Here you go old man. :)

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Robbored said:

An interesting take post match from two of our former players who rated City’s performance against Leeds as an excellent point. They both agreed that McCorrie having to go off led to four formational changes with Bird at one point actually filling the LB position.

Morrison’s contribution was also praised especially his run down the left easing the pressure and giving the defence a breather,

Well worth watching. It’s on YouTube but I can’t get the link to work……..:dunno:


 

 

Did we play full backs as such. It seemed that we started with a back 3 of Vyner flanked by Tanner and McNally with Sykes and McCrorie as wing backs. When McCrorie went off Naismith went to the middle CB flanked by Vyner and McNally with Tanner at RWB and Sykes moving to the left. As Leeds dominated the ball in the 2nd half we often became a back 5.

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46 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Did we play full backs as such. It seemed that we started with a back 3 of Vyner flanked by Tanner and McNally with Sykes and McCrorie as wing backs. When McCrorie went off Naismith went to the middle CB flanked by Vyner and McNally with Tanner at RWB and Sykes moving to the left. As Leeds dominated the ball in the 2nd half we often became a back 5.

Your analysis of the formation is spot on.

Yu had a weird sort of floating role supporting Wells.

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Just now, GrahamC said:

Your analysis of the formation is spot on.

Yu had a weird sort of floating role supporting Wells.

Yes, he was asked to do a lot more work and challenge the bigger players inside, that and it being his third game in the week, it's not surprising he tired badly. 

I wonder how often they play 3 games a week in Japan?

 

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Just now, Port Said Red said:

Yes, he was asked to do a lot more work and challenge the bigger players inside, that and it being his third game in the week, it's not surprising he tired badly. 

I wonder how often they play 3 games a week in Japan?

 

Never is the answer.

To be fair though he only came on in the 89th minute in midweek at Stoke.

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1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Did we play full backs as such. It seemed that we started with a back 3 of Vyner flanked by Tanner and McNally with Sykes and McCrorie as wing backs. When McCrorie went off Naismith went to the middle CB flanked by Vyner and McNally with Tanner at RWB and Sykes moving to the left. As Leeds dominated the ball in the 2nd half we often became a back 5.

 

13 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Your analysis of the formation is spot on.

Yu had a weird sort of floating role supporting Wells.

Must admit I didn't notice the 3 CBs at the time , more obvious when Naismith came on as McCrorie usually gets forward from FB and Sykes does support Tanner at times. 

Wonder who will step in for McCrorie Saturday. I guess we may stick with the 3CBs as it's less pressure on the FB's .
If we go experience Bird LWB & Sykes RWB , though not sure Bird has played there before.
Knight I think has played RWB but that means Sykes (please no) , Campbell-Slowey or Morrison .
Some awkward choices coming up for a few games , until we get some players back . 

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9 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

 

Must admit I didn't notice the 3 CBs at the time , more obvious when Naismith came on as McCrorie usually gets forward from FB and Sykes does support Tanner at times. 

Wonder who will step in for McCrorie Saturday. I guess we may stick with the 3CBs as it's less pressure on the FB's .
If we go experience Bird LWB & Sykes RWB , though not sure Bird has played there before.
Knight I think has played RWB but that means Sykes (please no) , Campbell-Slowey or Morrison .
Some awkward choices coming up for a few games , until we get some players back . 

I don’t think we should start shifting Knight or Bird into wing back positions.

Morrison to get a start, came on yesterday and didn’t seem phased by the opposition, cracking tackle that didn’t deserve a red card and showed other good glimpses to warrant an opportunity.

i hope we move away from the square pegs in round holes and sometimes go for a braver but more appropriate option.

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6 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

I don’t think we should start shifting Knight or Bird into wing back positions.

Morrison to get a start, came on yesterday and didn’t seem phased by the opposition, cracking tackle that didn’t deserve a red card and showed other good glimpses to warrant an opportunity.

i hope we move away from the square pegs in round holes and sometimes go for a braver but more appropriate option.

I'd worry about Morrison ( a winger or WMF by trade ) getting his first start at WB , and against a usually robust side.
I don't think we have a choice but to juggle players ATM . If we play Tanner/Vyner/McNally as a 3 , we have 2 WB spots to fill and I don't see us using the Academy for both. Even then Tanner isn't a natural WB if Naismith comes in.
We have Williams back , so Knight along side him and Sykes & Bird as WMF come WB roles is how I think it might go , a sort of 3-4-2-1  . Be interesting to see if I'm anywhere near right on Saturday.

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1 minute ago, 1960maaan said:

I'd worry about Morrison ( a winger or WMF by trade ) getting his first start at WB , and against a usually robust side.
I don't think we have a choice but to juggle players ATM . If we play Tanner/Vyner/McNally as a 3 , we have 2 WB spots to fill and I don't see us using the Academy for both. Even then Tanner isn't a natural WB if Naismith comes in.
We have Williams back , so Knight along side him and Sykes & Bird as WMF come WB roles is how I think it might go , a sort of 3-4-2-1  . Be interesting to see if I'm anywhere near right on Saturday.

Morrison has experience playing that role though, even if you have concerns about him playing there then surely it’s better to have one player in a position that doesn’t suit them as opposed to multiple as you are suggesting.

Preston have thrown away their last two games, they aren’t in a great place so we should go with what suits us best and not tinker too much unnecessarily 

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10 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

Morrison has experience playing that role though, even if you have concerns about him playing there then surely it’s better to have one player in a position that doesn’t suit them as opposed to multiple as you are suggesting.

Preston have thrown away their last two games, they aren’t in a great place so we should go with what suits us best and not tinker too much unnecessarily 

Just how I'm thinking , but Bird has played DMF so playing that same role wide isn't that much of a stretch. 
Him and Sykes as the wide men with Williams and Knight central actually looks good to me. Earthy and Yu/Mehmeti behind Wells looks fairly balanced . 

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4 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

Just how I'm thinking , but Bird has played DMF so playing that same role wide isn't that much of a stretch. 
Him and Sykes as the wide men with Williams and Knight central actually looks good to me. Earthy and Yu/Mehmeti behind Wells looks fairly balanced . 

Well let’s see, personally I’d like to shift as few people as possible out of position but we’ll see.

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34 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I'd worry about Morrison ( a winger or WMF by trade ) getting his first start at WB , and against a usually robust side.
I don't think we have a choice but to juggle players ATM . If we play Tanner/Vyner/McNally as a 3 , we have 2 WB spots to fill and I don't see us using the Academy for both. Even then Tanner isn't a natural WB if Naismith comes in.
We have Williams back , so Knight along side him and Sykes & Bird as WMF come WB roles is how I think it might go , a sort of 3-4-2-1  . Be interesting to see if I'm anywhere near right on Saturday.

I have only seen Morrison play WB or slightly more centrally for the U21's, I haven't seen him play as an out and out winger, but maybe I just watched the wrong games.  He looked really out to prove a point yesterday, I would be happy to see him play against Preston with it being an away game it would take the spotlight off him a bit.

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16 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I have only seen Morrison play WB or slightly more centrally for the U21's, I haven't seen him play as an out and out winger, but maybe I just watched the wrong games.  He looked really out to prove a point yesterday, I would be happy to see him play against Preston with it being an away game it would take the spotlight off him a bit.

Fair play if he gets the shout , but for me it's not just him I'd be concerned about but the LCB position. 
McNally has improved and done ok , but Morrison in front of him on his wrong side just worries me a little. If we had Atkinson or even Dickie at LCB I might feel a little better about it , I would be happy if they play him and he has a stormer. I always worry about games against PNE though.

 

Just realised he made his debut against Rotherham last season. 

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1 hour ago, Back of the Dolman said:

I don’t think we should start shifting Knight or Bird into wing back positions.

Morrison to get a start, came on yesterday and didn’t seem phased by the opposition, cracking tackle that didn’t deserve a red card and showed other good glimpses to warrant an opportunity.

i hope we move away from the square pegs in round holes and sometimes go for a braver but more appropriate option.

To be fair, as far as I was aware Bird only went into that left back role whilst McCrorie was down injured off the pitch and play was going on. It was a very temporary thing.

That cracking tackle didn’t deserve a yellow card either!!

With hindsight, yes, we probably could/should have brought Morrison on as a straight replacement. But hindsight is always a wonderful thing - and there’s no doubt there’d have been an element of risk doing that against a side like Leeds. 

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4 minutes ago, italian dave said:

To be fair, as far as I was aware Bird only went into that left back role whilst McCrorie was down injured off the pitch and play was going on. It was a very temporary thing.

That cracking tackle didn’t deserve a yellow card either!!

With hindsight, yes, we probably could/should have brought Morrison on as a straight replacement. But hindsight is always a wonderful thing - and there’s no doubt there’d have been an element of risk doing that against a side like Leeds. 

My comment is regards to the team selection for Preston.

I was making no reference to yesterday 

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15 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said:

My comment is regards to the team selection for Preston.

I was making no reference to yesterday 

Yeah, got that: all I meant was that I didn’t see any hint of Bird (or Knight) being an option at LB for Preston. We’re short of defenders, but not that short!

And agree with you on Morrison: again, just adding yesterday as context in the sense that they’ll feel it less of a risk than they might have done on 40 minutes yesterday. 

(I hope the card reference was about yesterday - and not a prediction for Preston!!)

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13 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Yeah, got that: all I meant was that I didn’t see any hint of Bird (or Knight) being an option at LB for Preston. We’re short of defenders, but not that short!

And agree with you on Morrison: again, just adding yesterday as context in the sense that they’ll feel it less of a risk than they might have done on 40 minutes yesterday. 

(I hope the card reference was about yesterday - and not a prediction for Preston!!)

Get you now, and yes I agree that personally I don’t want to see Bird or Knight being deployed in wing back roles against Preston.

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3 hours ago, Red Exile said:

This is an excellent! Insightful. Really interesting comment from Chris Honor & Liam Rosenior, both worth listening to.

Both former professional footballers who’ve played the game at a decent level. They’re far more qualified than the average fan to analyse any game. 

I certainly value their assessments far more  than the bloke down the pub………...:cool2:

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24 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Both former professional footballers who’ve played the game at a decent level. They’re far more qualified than the average fan to analyse any game. 

I certainly value their assessments far more  than the bloke down the pub………...:cool2:

Yeah that was a good listen, but there's many knowledgeable fans with valid opinions too. Many are blokes down the pub. I'm sure you enjoy a chat with fellow fans RR? 

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10 minutes ago, The dastardly red said:

Yeah that was a good listen, but there's many knowledgeable fans with valid opinions too. Many are blokes down the pub. I'm sure you enjoy a chat with fellow fans RR? 

Of course I do but other fans with no professional playing experience lack credibility in my opinion. 

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7 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

Just how I'm thinking , but Bird has played DMF so playing that same role wide isn't that much of a stretch. 
Him and Sykes as the wide men with Williams and Knight central actually looks good to me. Earthy and Yu/Mehmeti behind Wells looks fairly balanced . 

Playing “DMF” and wing back aren’t really the same role though. Not sure I’d wanna see Bird or Knight at wing back really 

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