Mr Popodopolous Posted November 21 Posted November 21 (edited) Pretty well by all Accounts! Article along wirh a few about some of our Loanees in Bristol Live during the International break. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/exceptional-how-bristol-city-midfielder-9715979 (If already covered feel free to merge). Still think he had his uses given age, versatility and our current issues with injury at RB/RWB. Edited November 21 by Mr Popodopolous Quote
Davefevs Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Think the next little period until the window is crucial. The dynamic of Ethan Laird getting back fit and starting the last couple is a bit of a worry. 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 21 Author Posted November 21 His versatility can be a positive and a negative as it can for any player who can play in multiple roles. Useful for a manager certainly. Sounds like he has played in midfield, RB and depending on setup wider Right there. I'd have him at RB here in the absence of Tanner and McCrorie certainly. Mentions a £1.5m fee option or similar in the article.. Quote
GrahamC Posted November 21 Posted November 21 56 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Think the next little period until the window is crucial. The dynamic of Ethan Laird getting back fit and starting the last couple is a bit of a worry. Yep, he wasn’t starting games for them in League One before the international break, I go more on that than some clickbait article. Let’s see if they really are prepared to spend £2m on a squad player. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 21 Author Posted November 21 54 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Yep, he wasn’t starting games for them in League One before the international break, I go more on that than some clickbait article. Let’s see if they really are prepared to spend £2m on a squad player. £1.5m the article said. Fwiw I looked into it and a Birmingham journo advocates for signing him permanently too. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-gardner-hickman-transfer-30309204 Quote
BCFCGav Posted November 21 Posted November 21 I’d bring him back now if we can. Sorry if you’re enjoying life in Brum Taylor but depth at RB and CM would be a blessing. 1 Quote
GrahamC Posted November 21 Posted November 21 19 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: I’d bring him back now if we can. Sorry if you’re enjoying life in Brum Taylor but depth at RB and CM would be a blessing. So when Tanner, McCrorie & Williams are all fit, do we try & sell him again? McGuane has more than replaced him in midfield. I’ll be more than happy if we sell in January. 4 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 21 Author Posted November 21 36 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: I’d bring him back now if we can. Sorry if you’re enjoying life in Brum Taylor but depth at RB and CM would be a blessing. 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: So when Tanner, McCrorie & Williams are all fit, do we try & sell him again? McGuane has more than replaced him in midfield. I’ll be more than happy if we sell in January. My gut feeling is that we won't see Tanner or McCrorie for weeks certainly in respect of sustainably match fit, which could leave us exposed there. If we can weather is great. Hopefully I'm wrong on that but McCrorie had the problem last sesson and there doesn't seem to be much news on their imminent return. Quote
GrahamC Posted November 21 Posted November 21 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: My gut feeling is that we won't see Tanner or McCrorie for weeks certainly in respect of sustainably match fit, which could leave us exposed there. If we can weather is great. Hopefully I'm wrong on that but McCrorie had the problem last sesson and there doesn't seem to be much news on their imminent return. TGH can’t play for us in the next 6 weeks anyway, based on what Manning said today Tanner should be back well before then. We simply can’t afford to stockpile 3 senior players for every position. 2 1 Quote
BCFCGav Posted November 21 Posted November 21 22 minutes ago, GrahamC said: So when Tanner, McCrorie & Williams are all fit, do we try & sell him again? McGuane has more than replaced him in midfield. I’ll be more than happy if we sell in January. We have no fit right backs and three fit central midfielders. And you’re assuming we’ll get players back before we pick up further injuries. So to answer your question, no, I’d get him back and keep him here. 1 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 21 Author Posted November 21 12 minutes ago, GrahamC said: TGH can’t play for us in the next 6 weeks anyway, based on what Manning said today Tanner should be back well before then. We simply can’t afford to stockpile 3 senior players for every position. I believe stockpiling is something we shouldn't do, albeit if he can't play for us for 6 weeks then yeah the idea should be forgotten. TGH is a bit different though due to his versatility. Just think that having to make do and mend at RB could see us slide towards midtable. Tanner being back and sustainably so would be a major boost. Quote
Rudolf Hucker Posted November 21 Posted November 21 10 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: TGH is a bit different though due to his versatility. Versatility isn’t, to my mind, a great quality in a footballer. You buy a player to fill a specific position in your team, from goalkeeper to striker, because they possess proven qualities, not just because in an injury crisis, you can also choose to play them in a different role. TGH’s problem is that he’s a “Jack of all trades” - he’ll try his best in any role but he doesn’t demonstrate mastery in any position. We haven’t missed him. To me, he’s a bit meh and we’re best offloading him. 5 1 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 21 Author Posted November 21 18 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Versatility isn’t, to my mind, a great quality in a footballer. You buy a player to fill a specific position in your team, from goalkeeper to striker, because they possess proven qualities, not just because in an injury crisis, you can also choose to play them in a different role. TGH’s problem is that he’s a “Jack of all trades” - he’ll try his best in any role but he doesn’t demonstrate mastery in any position. We haven’t missed him. To me, he’s a bit meh and we’re best offloading him. 1 Goal and 4 Assists last year, not bad. Think he had/has something, room for growth too age wise. He was in and out and played in a few positions..A situation with e.g. Earthy at RB/RWB could hinder us hugely. Vyner-Mcnally-Dickie-Pring/Roberts That could be okay- beyond that, with Tanner, McCrorie and Sykes all out. Quote
REDOXO Posted November 22 Posted November 22 (edited) I always liked TGH. Problem was Mr Manning wasn’t so keen and there was an offer of sorts. If we still have our usual injury crisis come January and we have a Jan bring back clause in the contract with Birmingham then you can bet your life there will be a discussion. Who knows how short/long it would be. Also it’s a little leverage…. We want him back or we need to buy a player. If you pay us early we will walk away of course! It’s been done before. Edited November 22 by REDOXO 1 Quote
Spike Posted November 22 Posted November 22 My mates a Brum fan and from what he's been saying all season I don't think he's coming back. He seems to think they'll sign him as he's been great for them when playing and seens to be loving it there. I can't see him coming back to be a back up for other players. I think he'll sign for then permanently or probably look elsewhere as we've hardly made him feel like he's wanted here have we. Quote
GrahamC Posted November 22 Posted November 22 4 hours ago, Spike said: My mates a Brum fan and from what he's been saying all season I don't think he's coming back. He seems to think they'll sign him as he's been great for them when playing and seens to be loving it there. I can't see him coming back to be a back up for other players. I think he'll sign for then permanently or probably look elsewhere as we've hardly made him feel like he's wanted here have we. He can’t go elsewhere this season as he’s featured for us & cannot play for 3 different teams in a season. I think he’ll stay there, certainly I hope he does. Quote
frenchred Posted November 22 Posted November 22 He's as good as gone, they are already counting those pennies and patting themselves on the back having made a significant profit and what they see as an upgrade/trade in McGuane Quote
Spike Posted November 23 Posted November 23 On 22/11/2024 at 07:53, GrahamC said: He can’t go elsewhere this season as he’s featured for us & cannot play for 3 different teams in a season. I think he’ll stay there, certainly I hope he does. I was talking about the end of the season, he'll stay there this season definitely, he's been a great squad player for them and they love him. Only way he comes back is if we force him against his will and I just don't see the point in that as we'll not have a committed player. Quote
GrahamC Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Unused sub & they lost at Shrewsbury.. More chance that they don’t want him than us getting the agreed fee, sadly. Quote
Davefevs Posted November 23 Posted November 23 49 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Unused sub & they lost at Shrewsbury.. More chance that they don’t want him than us getting the agreed fee, sadly. Next game will be interesting. If he doesn’t play then….. Quote
GrahamC Posted November 23 Posted November 23 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Next game will be interesting. If he doesn’t play then….. Willing to take the bet they send him back.. 1 Quote
GrahamC Posted Wednesday at 09:37 Posted Wednesday at 09:37 Unused sub again last night. Weird definition of doing “pretty well”, not getting on the pitch in the third division. If they send him back in January it impacts any business we could do. Can’t see them signing him permanently even if they keep him for the season. 1 Quote
steveybadger Posted Wednesday at 11:19 Posted Wednesday at 11:19 Mind you could do with him at the mo - most of his games this season have been at right back Quote
Roe Posted Wednesday at 11:30 Posted Wednesday at 11:30 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Can’t see them signing him permanently even if they keep him for the season. Well we signed him permanently after an uninspired loan spell Even got rid of one of our best players to make way for him Is there any chance Birmingham may be as stupid as us? Quote
GrahamC Posted Wednesday at 11:31 Posted Wednesday at 11:31 Just now, Roe said: Well we signed him permanently after an uninspired loan spell Even got rid of one of our best players to make way for him Is there any chance Birmingham may be as stupid as us? Who did we “get rid of”? Alex Scott? Quote
Roe Posted Wednesday at 11:49 Posted Wednesday at 11:49 17 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Who did we “get rid of”? Alex Scott? Weimann 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Wednesday at 12:26 Author Posted Wednesday at 12:26 TGH could play or can play at RWB and RB, granted the current problems there couldn't have been foreseen but...how many weeks have McCrorie, Tanner and Sykes missed between them now. Quote
Engvall’s Splinter Posted Wednesday at 13:02 Posted Wednesday at 13:02 1 hour ago, Roe said: Well we signed him permanently after an uninspired loan spell Even got rid of one of our best players to make way for him Is there any chance Birmingham may be as stupid as us? We didn’t learn the first time with TGH, so much so, we’ve done the same with Twine! Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Wednesday at 13:08 Author Posted Wednesday at 13:08 TGH has been better value for money than Twine IMO. Quote
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