Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Posted November 22 (edited) Okay they are all important but tnia feels like a defining Period, a bit of a crossroads. 11 Games, 43 days..varying availability. As it stands the sides within range of us are..4th to say 10th. Obviously Watford are winning at Plymouth presently. Fixtures up to and including next weekend, 6 Pointers in bold. Vs the Top 3 in underline as it could be a chance for them to drop points. Watford *22/11/24- Plymouth (A) 2-1* 26/11/24- Bristol City (H) 30/11/24- QPR (H) Burnley 23/11/24- Bristol City (A) 26/11/14- Coventry (H) 30/11/24- Stoke (A) WBA 23/11/24- Norwich (H) 26/11/24- Sunderland (A) 30/11/24- Preston (A) Middlesbrough 23/11/24- Oxford (A) 27/11/24- Blackburn (H) 30/11/24- Hull (H) Millwall 23/11/24- Sunderland (H) 27/11/24- Portsmouth (A) 30/11/24- Oxford (A) Blackburn 23/11/24- Portsmouth (H) 27/11/24- Middlesbrough (A) 30/11/24- Leeds (H) Bristol City 23/11/24- Burnley (H) 26/11/24- Watford (A) 30/11/24- Plymouth (H) It feels like by the start of December we could we well in the mix or we could be 11th or 12th, 8 or 9 off the Playoffs. Could easily go either way...feels defining? Edited November 22 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote
cidered abroad Posted November 22 Posted November 22 The importance of the match is 1/46th of the season! Let’s just see where we go. 2 2 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: The importance of the match is 1/46th of the season! Let’s just see where we go. I dunno psychologically, 11 Games 43 days. Really need to hit it well, we have been winning but so have several teams in and around us Could a bad result or 2 turn into a midtable drift, 3 games in a week is 6.67% of the Season? 2 of them 6 Pointers. Edited November 22 by Mr Popodopolous Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 Would 5 Points keep us ticking along, or should we even do that many targets and Projections in a League like this. Quote
David Brent Posted November 22 Posted November 22 Putting a gap between us and 11th would be good, as would be staying within one result of the playoffs. There is no doubt imo that a win tomorrow would give a greater psychological boost than our win against Millwall say. That doesn’t mean that we should be too down if we lose. 2 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 We are 3 Points above 11th-13th and 4 above 14th and 15th, if we could start to build some gaps of our own that could help. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 (edited) Some of the gaps we had an hour in vs Wolves at the end of 2017 though ha..had we won that sky could've been the limit. I say 5 Points from 3 but really tomorrow we should be going for all 3. Edited November 22 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote
joe jordans teeth Posted November 22 Posted November 22 14 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Would 5 Points keep us ticking along, or should we even do that many targets and Projections in a League like this. Christ you worry to much on every subject,just live your life and stop worrying on what will and will not happen 1 5 1 Quote
REDOXO Posted November 22 Posted November 22 (edited) Games become more important as the season progresses. So with every respect to a comment above it’s not quite that. Personally I think it’s important to keep momentum and keep in touch! Thus the most important game so far. However we all know HNM will get his first ever goal/assist Edited November 22 by REDOXO 1 1 Quote
Robbored Posted November 22 Posted November 22 It’ll be Citys 16th match of the Championship and with another 30 games to play 3 points would be delightful but a defeat would no way be a disaster. However, we all know that a win would be a huge confidence boost to the entire club. Personally I reckon a draw is most likely. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 5 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Christ you worry to much on every subject,just live your life and stop worrying on what will and will not happen Well true but I'm not worried about WW3 so there's that however I do think the next week will come at us fast and could tell us a lot. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 Oh good, late equaliser for Plymouth! Quote
Shauntaylor85 Posted November 22 Posted November 22 We need to beat one of the parachute clubs. We’ve struggled against Leeds and Sheff Utd, both physically hard on us. If we can get 4 points from next two we are in a good position but a good run of games ahead, which usually means we see the typical Bristol City, eg 0.1 to QPR!!! 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 Watford 22/11/24- Plymouth (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Bristol City (H) 30/11/24- QPR (H) Burnley 23/11/24- Bristol City (A) 26/11/14- Coventry (H) 30/11/24- Stoke (A) WBA 23/11/24- Norwich (H) 26/11/24- Sunderland (A) 30/11/24- Preston (A) Middlesbrough 23/11/24- Oxford (A) 27/11/24- Blackburn (H) 30/11/24- Hull (H) Millwall 23/11/24- Sunderland (H) 27/11/24- Portsmouth (A) 30/11/24- Oxford (A) Blackburn 23/11/24- Portsmouth (H) 27/11/24- Middlesbrough (A) 30/11/24- Leeds (H) Bristol City 23/11/24- Burnley (H) 26/11/24- Watford (A) 30/11/24- Plymouth (H) 1 minute ago, Shauntaylor85 said: We need to beat one of the parachute clubs. We’ve struggled against Leeds and Sheff Utd, both physically hard on us. If we can get 4 points from next two we are in a good position but a good run of games ahead, which usually means we see the typical Bristol City, eg 0.1 to QPR!!! We were quite good in dom3 ways in both IMO. Leeds if we look statistically top a lot of metrics, except of course the table and the worsening LB issue with even McCrorie having to go off yeah a point was fine. Sheffield United, I thought we were worth a point and may have sneaked 3 if not for errors but worth a point. Burnley are a curious side..strong in Possession and at the back yet some of their Attacking output leaves a bit to be desired. A big and noisy crowd may lift us, sadly quite a few tickets left, reckon 19.5-20k Home tickets sold tomorrow, no idea what Burnley have sold, how many they take away etc. Quote
NDW4CITY Posted November 22 Posted November 22 13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Well true but I'm not worried about WW3 so there's that however I do think the next week will come at us fast and could tell us a lot. I agree to an extent with everyone looking at it as just one game and just 3 points at stake, but (and I hate this term) tomorrow would be a 'statement win' if we could manage it. We came close against Sheff U and did a decent job against Leeds. I just think a win against Burnley would keep up our momentum, and add belief that we can play and beat the PP teams. Millwall knocked off Burnley and Leeds in quick succession. Even Plymouth defeated Sunderland. Not the end of the world if we draw or lose, but 3 points would give us a big boost going into this extremely period (unless WW3 kicks off before Christmas). 2 Quote
Rudolf Hucker Posted November 22 Posted November 22 34 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: We’ve struggled against Leeds and Sheff Utd Did we? 1 Quote
The Masked Man Posted November 22 Posted November 22 After our 'easy' start to the season we went into the run of tougher games with some trepidation and performances have shown we're a match for any team in the division. We should be going into the Burnley game confident we can get three points. I think if the squad hadn't been down to the bare bones we would have beaten Sheffield United. It was the tactical change and inability to bring on some fresh legs in midfield that did for us in the end. 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 (edited) 33 minutes ago, BCFC31 said: Odd how there has been no pre match presser. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/manning-previews-burnley-clash-at-ashton-gate/ It seems to be Audio only at present. Think they spoke to Mehmeti too as the Player, unsure where it is. Edited November 22 by Mr Popodopolous Quote
Davefevs Posted November 23 Posted November 23 42 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/manning-previews-burnley-clash-at-ashton-gate/ It seems to be Audio only at present. Think they spoke to Mehmeti too as the Player, unsure where it is. Just type Bristol City into the search on Spotify, Anis’s is there too. 1 Quote
MarcusX Posted November 23 Posted November 23 I think the next 2 games tell us if we’re genuine top 6 contenders or not 1 Quote
ashton_fan Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Early days, not that long ago we were in the top 2 at Christmas under LJ and still missed out Quote
ExiledAjax Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Well we start today in 10th place and I reckon that it's most probable that we'll still be 10th at 5pm tomorrow. So not that defining really. Quote
Red Billy Posted November 23 Posted November 23 9 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/manning-previews-burnley-clash-at-ashton-gate/ It seems to be Audio only at present. Think they spoke to Mehmeti too as the Player, unsure where it is. Posted in the match thread. I always go there to find it. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 23 Author Posted November 23 39 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Well we start today in 10th place and I reckon that it's most probable that we'll still be 10th at 5pm tomorrow. So not that defining really. I dunno, the points and psychology. If we lose and some or all of WBA, Middlesbrough, Millwall, Blackburn win..suddenly we go to Watford knowing that a loss there puts them 7 ahead and others can gain points, the Top 6 or playoffs begins to look that bit more distant. Equally should we win, Burnley and Watford reeled back, any or all of WBA, Middlesbrough, Millwall or Blackburn can drop points and two of those play each other midwwwk, yeah. We can then perhaps look for 4 Points as more sensible a Goal from the next 2 5 hours ago, ashton_fan said: Early days, not that long ago we were in the top 2 at Christmas under LJ and still missed out We were starting to form some major gsos and statements at 1 up v 10 men against Wolves. Their lead halved in a week, 3 ahead of Cardiff, 9 ahead of Aston Villa, Middlesbrough, 10 above Preston- big psychological landmarks whereas our confidence would've just rocketed. Perhaps we could more comfortably have gone to Aston Villa going for a draw the Monday and things develop from there. Quote
GrahamC Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: Well we start today in 10th place and I reckon that it's most probable that we'll still be 10th at 5pm tomorrow. So not that defining really. Agree. Think what the next two games will show though is direction of travel. Having seen most of last night’s game I can see Watford as definite top six contenders. If we are competitive today & on Tuesday & pick up at least one decent result then we can realistically look upwards rather than expecting mid table is on yet again. I know this means Wells keeping up his excellent form or another consistent scorer suddenly emerging, but it is tight this season & that’s the challenge. Edited November 23 by GrahamC 3 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 First games of this potentially important 3 in a week or so for the division. Watford 22/11/24- Plymouth (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Bristol City (H) 30/11/24- QPR (H) Burnley 23/11/24- Bristol City (A) 1-0 26/11/14- Coventry (H) 30/11/24- Stoke (A) WBA 23/11/24- Norwich (H) 2-2 26/11/24- Sunderland (A) 30/11/24- Preston (A) Middlesbrough 23/11/24- Oxford (A) 6-2 27/11/24- Blackburn (H) 30/11/24- Hull (H) Millwall 23/11/24- Sunderland (H) 1-1 27/11/24- Portsmouth (A) 30/11/24- Oxford (A) Blackburn 23/11/24- Portsmouth (H) P-P 27/11/24- Middlesbrough (A) 30/11/24- Leeds (H) Bristol City 23/11/24- Burnley (H) 0-1 26/11/24- Watford (A) 30/11/24- Plymouth (H) The updated table, remember too Blackburn have vs Portsmouth at Home. Leeds have a Game in Hand, playing Sunday at Swansea as they are. Both of the top 2 are on 32 Points. Not a huge amount of damage done today but feels like one or two could start to build gaps soon. Will update again post the midweek games. Quote
temp Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Not a huge gap between top six and bottom 3 ...some 10pts.... there are many clubs who if they go on a good or bad run 2/3 games could change ends of the div; we need to stop making errors and bring in a decent striker to have any chance of getting a top six place......not going to happen imo. 1 Quote
Bar BS3 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 7 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: First games of this potentially important 3 in a week or so for the division. Watford 22/11/24- Plymouth (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Bristol City (H) 30/11/24- QPR (H) Burnley 23/11/24- Bristol City (A) 1-0 26/11/14- Coventry (H) 30/11/24- Stoke (A) WBA 23/11/24- Norwich (H) 2-2 26/11/24- Sunderland (A) 30/11/24- Preston (A) Middlesbrough 23/11/24- Oxford (A) 6-2 27/11/24- Blackburn (H) 30/11/24- Hull (H) Millwall 23/11/24- Sunderland (H) 1-1 27/11/24- Portsmouth (A) 30/11/24- Oxford (A) Blackburn 23/11/24- Portsmouth (H) P-P 27/11/24- Middlesbrough (A) 30/11/24- Leeds (H) Bristol City 23/11/24- Burnley (H) 0-1 26/11/24- Watford (A) 30/11/24- Plymouth (H) The updated table, remember too Blackburn have vs Portsmouth at Home. Leeds have a Game in Hand, playing Sunday at Swansea as they are. Both of the top 2 are on 32 Points. Not a huge amount of damage done today but feels like one or two could start to build gaps soon. Will update again post the midweek games. I think yesterday showed just about where we are.... we are a decent, should be top half team, but against the best teams, we can be found lacking in that something extra to really hurt them. Of course it's the type of player that every club wants & those that have them tend to do well. Games like Norwich & Middlesbrough & Preston, show that we are capable of hurting teams when things all come together - especially when we can hit teams on the break - but what we don't have is that type of player who is just too much for teams to handle - especially when they sit back & don't allow us to break through their lines (either teams that have less ambition, or teams with a lead to protect) I think we have improved alot, but we are likely to just not have everything we need to be a top 6 side. If someone can find a bit of something extra then who knows - but I can't in all honesty see anyone who is capable of being a constant threat of creating something out of nothing & being a nightmare for the opposition for 90 mins. Quote
steveybadger Posted November 24 Posted November 24 34 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: I think yesterday showed just about where we are.... we are a decent, should be top half team, but against the best teams, we can be found lacking in that something extra to really hurt them. Of course it's the type of player that every club wants & those that have them tend to do well. Games like Norwich & Middlesbrough & Preston, show that we are capable of hurting teams when things all come together - especially when we can hit teams on the break - but what we don't have is that type of player who is just too much for teams to handle - especially when they sit back & don't allow us to break through their lines (either teams that have less ambition, or teams with a lead to protect) I think we have improved alot, but we are likely to just not have everything we need to be a top 6 side. If someone can find a bit of something extra then who knows - but I can't in all honesty see anyone who is capable of being a constant threat of creating something out of nothing & being a nightmare for the opposition for 90 mins. Was thinking that if you added that 20 goal season Bobby Cordova- Reid to this side, with his movement and finishing, then we’d be top 6. If if and if I guess, and tbf Wells is doing ok. Quote
Bar BS3 Posted November 24 Posted November 24 6 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Was thinking that if you added that 20 goal season Bobby Cordova- Reid to this side, with his movement and finishing, then we’d be top 6. If if and if I guess, and tbf Wells is doing ok. Agreed. I hadn't been picturing Bobby Reid - but yes, his workrate was almost like having 2 players on the pitch. Wells is doing a fantastic job & credit to him - But I don't think he dominates a game or strikes fear into defenders. Someone like Semenyo (now) or Kodja, maybe even Maynard or if you could completely make it up - imagine having a Drogba or Collymore, in their pomp, in this team..! 1 Quote
Davefevs Posted November 24 Posted November 24 1 hour ago, temp said: Not a huge gap between top six and bottom 3 ...some 10pts.... there are many clubs who if they go on a good or bad run 2/3 games could change ends of the div; we need to stop making errors and bring in a decent striker to have any chance of getting a top six place......not going to happen imo. I’m interested in where Luton (maybe Cov too if they appoint a manager) will be by Xmas. I think if they were going to sack Edwards, they’d have done it by now, and I think they’ll sort themselves out. Quote
temp Posted November 24 Posted November 24 6 hours ago, Davefevs said: I’m interested in where Luton (maybe Cov too if they appoint a manager) will be by Xmas. I think if they were going to sack Edwards, they’d have done it by now, and I think they’ll sort themselves out. I think there is at least 1/2 dozen teams below us who could easy be above us in a month or two, the table doesnt lie though and after a few results that nobody here expected really, we seem to be in a rather inflated position. We do have some good players as do many clubs....but not enough imo. 1 Quote
Davefevs Posted November 24 Posted November 24 12 minutes ago, temp said: I think there is at least 1/2 dozen teams below us who could easy be above us in a month or two, the table doesnt lie though and after a few results that nobody here expected really, we seem to be in a rather inflated position. We do have some good players as do many clubs....but not enough imo. It’s a tight mid-table isn’t it. 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 (edited) 19 minutes ago, temp said: I think there is at least 1/2 dozen teams below us who could easy be above us in a month or two, the table doesnt lie though and after a few results that nobody here expected really, we seem to be in a rather inflated position. We do have some good players as do many clubs....but not enough imo. By the same token, could Millwall and Blackburn run out of steam, probably some others too. WBA, well Maja 10 Goals, none Penalties how long can that last, Watford may drop off a bit. Still thinking Top 10 to Midtable though although that can change for better or worse. Edited November 24 by Mr Popodopolous Quote
mozo Posted November 24 Posted November 24 16 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: First games of this potentially important 3 in a week or so for the division. Watford 22/11/24- Plymouth (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Bristol City (H) 30/11/24- QPR (H) Burnley 23/11/24- Bristol City (A) 1-0 26/11/14- Coventry (H) 30/11/24- Stoke (A) WBA 23/11/24- Norwich (H) 2-2 26/11/24- Sunderland (A) 30/11/24- Preston (A) Middlesbrough 23/11/24- Oxford (A) 6-2 27/11/24- Blackburn (H) 30/11/24- Hull (H) Millwall 23/11/24- Sunderland (H) 1-1 27/11/24- Portsmouth (A) 30/11/24- Oxford (A) Blackburn 23/11/24- Portsmouth (H) P-P 27/11/24- Middlesbrough (A) 30/11/24- Leeds (H) Bristol City 23/11/24- Burnley (H) 0-1 26/11/24- Watford (A) 30/11/24- Plymouth (H) The updated table, remember too Blackburn have vs Portsmouth at Home. Leeds have a Game in Hand, playing Sunday at Swansea as they are. Both of the top 2 are on 32 Points. Not a huge amount of damage done today but feels like one or two could start to build gaps soon. Will update again post the midweek games. Good point for Millwall, and now they have 2 decent fixtures, so they're probably pretty pleased. We've obvs lost, like you say, potentially our psychological state has been dented, and now a tough away game. I'd be delighted with 4 points from the next two, and that keeps us in the mix. 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 3 minutes ago, mozo said: Good point for Millwall, and now they have 2 decent fixtures, so they're probably pretty pleased. We've obvs lost, like you say, potentially our psychological state has been dented, and now a tough away game. I'd be delighted with 4 points from the next two, and that keeps us in the mix. Agreed, a point at Watford and a win vs Plymouth would help greatly. Watford have QPR at Home after us they'll see that as winnable...WBA have back to back Away, at Sunderland and Preston they could slip there. It feels as if our margin for error has slipped a bit in terms of staying in the race. Middlesbrough will fancy 4-6 points from the next 2. Quote
mozo Posted November 24 Posted November 24 10 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Agreed, a point at Watford and a win vs Plymouth would help greatly. Watford have QPR at Home after us they'll see that as winnable...WBA have back to back Away, at Sunderland and Preston they could slip there. It feels as if our margin for error has slipped a bit in terms of staying in the race. Middlesbrough will fancy 4-6 points from the next 2. Yeah, for sure. I just had a quick glance at opposition so far. If I counted correctly, after Watford, we'll have played 9 of the current top half, and 7 of the current bottom half. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 1 minute ago, mozo said: Yeah, for sure. I just had a quick glance at opposition so far. If I counted correctly, after Watford, we'll have played 9 of the current top half, and 7 of the current bottom half. QPR are one, no matter the position of us in recent years we seem to lose to them at Home.. Some of their data is better than their League position which makes me a little nervous, Portsmouth Away in some ways I think win in some ways I think draw..Luton although bottom half that over Christmas should be winnable albeit Parachute Club Over Christmas we play Luton and Portsmouth at Home, followed by Plymouth Away New Years Day and then Derby at Home on 4th January- could we make up some ground there. Quote
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 24 Posted November 24 6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: QPR are one, no matter the position of us in recent years we seem to lose to them at Home.. Some of their data is better than their League position which makes me a little nervous, Portsmouth Away in some ways I think win in some ways I think draw..Luton although bottom half that over Christmas should be winnable albeit Parachute Club Over Christmas we play Luton and Portsmouth at Home, followed by Plymouth Away New Years Day and then Derby at Home on 4th January- could we make up some ground there. Problem is I can see us beating Watford but failing to win the on paper winnable games such as Plymouth and QPR. Quote
mozo Posted November 24 Posted November 24 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: QPR are one, no matter the position of us in recent years we seem to lose to them at Home.. Some of their data is better than their League position which makes me a little nervous, Portsmouth Away in some ways I think win in some ways I think draw..Luton although bottom half that over Christmas should be winnable albeit Parachute Club Over Christmas we play Luton and Portsmouth at Home, followed by Plymouth Away New Years Day and then Derby at Home on 4th January- could we make up some ground there. I've got no doubt that we'll be a test for any side this season. But I'm not sure if we'll always be clinical enough, in all three thirds of the pitch. Finger crossed. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 2 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Problem is I can see us beating Watford but failing to win the on paper winnable games such as Plymouth and QPR. By way of example, QPR have the 4th highest Shots in the division which suggests a side who could click and score multiple against someone in a game. Joint 6th or 7th for Shots on Target. 3 minutes ago, mozo said: I've got no doubt that we'll be a test for any side this season. But I'm not sure if we'll always be clinical enough, in all three thirds of the pitch. Finger crossed. I'd say we are quite clinical in some aspects, 20 Goals from 191 Shots isn't bad and post International break even more so. (18/191 if we exclude pens, 20/193 if not). Manning claiming as he did that we had 15 Shots in the majority of games is just false e.g. We have an about par conversion rate perhaps. QPR have had 207 Shots but scored 11 Goals. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 Manning declaring that earlier then doubling down at the Fans Forum is poor. Fans certainly can fact check but they shouldn't have to. 1 Quote
Davefevs Posted November 24 Posted November 24 24 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Manning declaring that earlier then doubling down at the Fans Forum is poor. Fans certainly can fact check but they shouldn't have to. It’s the lack of context let alone the accuracy for me. But on the numbers itself, working backwards: 7, 9, 12, 5, 4, 28, 9, 16, 10, 15, 19, 8, 13, 12, 11, 15 (193 /16) 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 14 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s the lack of context let alone the accuracy for me. But on the numbers itself, working backwards: 7, 9, 12, 5, 4, 28, 9, 16, 10, 15, 19, 8, 13, 12, 11, 15 (193 /16) Oh that as well, but 5/15 (prior to yesterday) or even if he wanted to break up the up to Cardiff since, at best 4/9 can in no way be called a majority, 5/15 before yesterday I dunno why he said it. Yeah Shots aren't the be all and end all. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 26 Author Posted November 26 We are moving behind the 8-ball a bit albeit we deserved a win tonight and perhaps a draw Saturday. Watford 22/11/24- Plymouth (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Bristol City (H) 1-0 30/11/24- QPR (H) Middlesbrough 23/11/24- Oxford (A) 6-2 27/11/24- Blackburn (H) 30/11/24- Hull (H) WBA 23/11/24- Norwich (H) 2-2 26/11/24- Sunderland (A) 0-0 30/11/24- Preston (A) Millwall 23/11/24- Sunderland (H) 1-1 27/11/24- Portsmouth (A) 30/11/24- Oxford (A) Norwich City 23/11/24- WBA (A) 2-2 27/11/24- Plymouth (H) 6-1 30/11/24- Luton (H) Blackburn 23/11/24- Portsmouth (H) P-P 27/11/24- Middlesbrough (A) 30/11/24- Leeds (H) Bristol City 23/11/24- Burnley (H) 0-1 26/11/24- Watford (A) 0-1 30/11/24- Plymouth (H) Slipping away isn't it. About halfway through given some still to play, plus one game Postponed. Quote
MarcusX Posted Wednesday at 07:53 Posted Wednesday at 07:53 On 23/11/2024 at 00:22, MarcusX said: I think the next 2 games tell us if we’re genuine top 6 contenders or not We are not 1 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Wednesday at 20:22 Author Posted Wednesday at 20:22 Swansea 2 up at Derby, we are heading 12th albeit joint 12th with Norwich and now Swansea as it stands, 12th on GD- in fact we can add Sheffield Wednesday, all 4 of us level on 22 Points. Games to watch for us tonight are Middlesbrough v Blackburn, and Portsmouth v Millwall- delayed kick-off- and now Swansea at Derby. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Wednesday at 22:15 Author Posted Wednesday at 22:15 (edited) Updated..We are now 12th. Saturday is very much a need to win IMO in respect of a Top 6 push potential. Middlesbrough seem to b3 feast or famine of late and perhaps more widely. Watford 22/11/24- Plymouth (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Bristol City (H) 1-0 30/11/24- QPR (H) Middlesbrough 23/11/24- Oxford (A) 6-2 27/11/24- Blackburn (H) 0-1 30/11/24- Hull (H) WBA 23/11/24- Norwich (H) 2-2 26/11/24- Sunderland (A) 0-0 30/11/24- Preston (A) Blackburn 23/11/24- Portsmouth (H) P-P 27/11/24- Middlesbrough (A) 1-0 30/11/24- Leeds (H) Millwall 23/11/24- Sunderland (H) 1-1 27/11/24- Portsmouth (A) P-P 30/11/24- Oxford (A) Norwich City 23/11/24- WBA (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Plymouth (H) 6-1 30/11/24- Luton (H) Swansea City 24/11/24- Leeds (H) 3-4 27/11/24- Derby (A) 2-1 30/11/24- Portsmouth (H) Bristol City 23/11/24- Burnley (H) 0-1 26/11/24- Watford (A) 0-1 30/11/24- Plymouth (H) Must win Saturday? Edited Wednesday at 22:17 by Mr Popodopolous Quote
italian dave Posted Thursday at 11:48 Posted Thursday at 11:48 So now it’s ’must win Saturday’! Seem to sum up the answer to the question that the thread title posed. Tomorrow is always more important than yesterday. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Thursday at 11:52 Author Posted Thursday at 11:52 Realistically looking at other Games, looking at the intense sprint towards the first weekend of January failure to win and the Playoffs starts to look pretty distant IMO. Quote
TDarwall Posted Thursday at 11:57 Posted Thursday at 11:57 I don't think performances v Sheff Utd, Burnley & Watford have been much different to Boro, PNE & Stoke. We all hate fine margins but that's what it is. Some are saying we were much better under Hogg, I disagree, & had arguably the best keeper in the league not badly misjudged a corner we may well lose that game. The difference has been a bit of luck for / against, the quality of the oppo (Sheff U/Burnley) & whilst we were taking our chances, now we're not. Against Burnley & Watford we missed 1v1's (Yu & Wells respectively). I don't have good vibes about Sat but hope I'm wrong & we smash them like last season. 1 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Thursday at 12:05 Author Posted Thursday at 12:05 They all were a bit different stylistically if we look. Don't think there is a consistent approach by us, some games we are more Possession oriented, some we were more clinical- some injuries impacted us in-game. Hard to draw definitive conclusions from 6 varied games like that IMO. Plymouth though on the road I won't say there are easy games but on the road they have some huge flaws. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Sunday at 17:41 Author Posted Sunday at 17:41 This little period has ended and where are we at..let's see. We are up a place to 11th. Millwall and Blackburn both have a Game in Hand on us- coincidentally v Portsmouth, the former Away to, the latter at Home to. Middlesbrough 23/11/24- Oxford (A) 6-2 27/11/24- Blackburn (H) 0-1 30/11/24- Hull (H) 3-1 Watford 22/11/24- Plymouth (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Bristol City (H) 1-0 30/11/24- QPR (H) 0-0 WBA 23/11/24- Norwich (H) 2-2 26/11/24- Sunderland (A) 0-0 30/11/24- Preston (A) 1-1 Blackburn 23/11/24- Portsmouth (H) P-P 27/11/24- Middlesbrough (A) 1-0 30/11/24- Leeds (H) 1-0 Norwich City 23/11/24- WBA (A) 2-2 26/11/24- Plymouth (H) 6-1 30/11/24- Luton (H) 4-2 Millwall 23/11/24- Sunderland (H) 1-1 27/11/24- Portsmouth (A) P-P 30/11/24- Oxford (A) 1-1 Bristol City 23/11/24- Burnley (H) 0-1 26/11/24- Watford (A) 0-1 30/11/24- Plymouth (H) 4-0 Sheffield Wednesday 23/11/24- Cardiff (H) 1-1 26/11/24- Hull (A) 2-0 01/12/24- Derby (A) 2-1 Was a good thumping win Saturday but we are actually further from the Playoffs than we were 10 days ago. Was it must win? Would say yes. Firstly for confidence and morale combined with the Plymouth Away Record- then realistically just to stay in it. We haven't won back to back this season..that needs to start Saturday at Portsmouthm Quote
mozo Posted Sunday at 18:35 Posted Sunday at 18:35 On 28/11/2024 at 12:05, Mr Popodopolous said: They all were a bit different stylistically if we look. Don't think there is a consistent approach by us, some games we are more Possession oriented, some we were more clinical- some injuries impacted us in-game. Hard to draw definitive conclusions from 6 varied games like that IMO. Plymouth though on the road I won't say there are easy games but on the road they have some huge flaws. Yeah, we're consistently competitive and consistently difficult to play against. That's really important. Hopefully the points will follow. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Sunday at 18:43 Author Posted Sunday at 18:43 6 minutes ago, mozo said: Yeah, we're consistently competitive and consistently difficult to play against. That's really important. Hopefully the points will follow. Top 10 overall IMO, but maybe I'm being a bit risk averse. Reckon we need 48 more Points to be seriously in the Playoff picture come May. Quote
mozo Posted Sunday at 18:56 Posted Sunday at 18:56 7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Top 10 overall IMO, but maybe I'm being a bit risk averse. Reckon we need 48 more Points to be seriously in the Playoff picture come May. Yeah, it's a stretch for us I think. Like I said on another thread, my target is as close to 70 as possible, with 68 a respectable 10% improvement on last season. We're currently on track for a slight improvement of 64 points, but a win v Portsmouth gets us back on course for 68. Last season 73 secured 6th, and I feel we'll fall short of that, but it's possible. 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Sunday at 19:00 Author Posted Sunday at 19:00 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mozo said: Yeah, it's a stretch for us I think. Like I said on another thread, my target is as close to 70 as possible, with 68 a respectable 10% improvement on last season. We're currently on track for a slight improvement of 64 points, but a win v Portsmouth gets us back on course for 68. Last season 73 secured 6th, and I feel we'll fall short of that, but it's possible. 68 Points would be reasonable, this Period between now and early January will make or break it a bit. Portsmouth (A) QPR (H) Luton (H) Portsmouth (H) Plymouth (A) Derby (H) Those are 6 of our next 8 Games, gather a lot of points and the dial moves. Edited Sunday at 19:00 by Mr Popodopolous Quote
mozo Posted Sunday at 19:14 Posted Sunday at 19:14 11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: 68 Points would be reasonable, this Period between now and early January will make or break it a bit. Portsmouth (A) QPR (H) Luton (H) Portsmouth (H) Plymouth (A) Derby (H) Those are 6 of our next 8 Games, gather a lot of points and the dial moves. I think City are capable of going at 2ppg in that 8 game run, but being capable and actually doing it. That would leave our ppg on track for... 73 points. I'm obvs not expecting life to be that simple. 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted Sunday at 19:23 Author Posted Sunday at 19:23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mozo said: I think City are capable of going at 2ppg in that 8 game run, but being capable and actually doing it. That would leave our ppg on track for... 73 points. I'm obvs not expecting life to be that simple. The other two are Sunderland and WBA Away. Both of them draw a lot of Games atm but they are difficult nonetheless. Edited Sunday at 19:24 by Mr Popodopolous Quote
ExiledAjax Posted Sunday at 19:38 Posted Sunday at 19:38 Anything less than 37 points and a +8 goal difference after game 23 (Boxing Day Luton) means we probably need more points and better results in the second half of the season than the first. To get to that we need 12 points and an aggregate of +5 goals from five matches. Tough. Unlikely. But, if we get four wins from the next five games, then I'll start thinking we might be able to scrape a 6th place finish. 1 Quote
mozo Posted Sunday at 19:42 Posted Sunday at 19:42 16 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: The other two are Sunderland and WBA Away. Both of them draw a lot of Games atm but they are difficult nonetheless. Yeah I'd really like to beat one of the top 4. But those two games would be a bonus if we picked up points. 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Anything less than 37 points and a +8 goal difference after game 23 (Boxing Day Luton) means we probably need more points and better results in the second half of the season than the first. To get to that we need 12 points and an aggregate of +5 goals from five matches. Tough. Unlikely. But, if we get four wins from the next five games, then I'll start thinking we might be able to scrape a 6th place finish. It's not my expectation, but it would be great if that we got to that point. 2 Quote
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