Stick with Manning or got for Robins?

[bristol red]

Is it time for Robins to manage the Robins?

[Alan Dicks]

Robins all the way

[petehinton]

Blimey

[BCFCGav]

LM has us playing some nice stuff, we just don’t have players who can put a ball in a goal. Not sure Robins fixes that.

[Jose]

We could have Pep in charge ( maybe not best example atm) and he will achieve absolutely **** all with the strikers we have. 
 

While points wise progress hasn’t come and I feel he is learning on the job I’m not sure I’d want him gone. We need to try and build and there has been some good signs. In game management needs sorting though that’s for sure. Big few weeks coming up with games we should be winning. 

[Fpcity]

We'd still have the same players with a poor choice of strikers so unless he can spend a fair bit in Jan or next summer, if we have the money that is after this summer's splash I don't know if he'd make much difference. 

[bristol red]

I don’t disagree but there is an opportunity to bring Robins in and can see the Lansdowns more willing to back him with their past admiration and desire to bring him in. I dunno. That’s why I posted to see what you all thought.

[fly in the air]

Robins for me.

[Eddie Notgetinya]

The last 8 games or so have produced drastically improved football and we have limited very good teams to few chances. I wasn’t LM’s biggest fan but he has won me over. We need another proven goal scorer to share the burden with Wells - add that and I don’t think we’re far off competing for that 6th place 

[bristol red]

Would 100% be here if he would have been available when Pearson was sacked. Will be interested as has applied for job in past I believe? 

[bristol red]

1 minute ago, Eddie Notgetinya said:

The last 8 games or so have produced drastically improved football and we have limited very good teams to few chances. I wasn’t LM’s biggest fan but he has won me over. We need another proven goal scorer to share the burden with Wells - add that and I don’t think we’re far off competing for that 6th place 

There is something lacking there tactically I think. I agree lacking striker but he was adamant about signing Twine which restricted striker options. Fally and Armstrong were bought in as projects but he gambled to sign Twine over a proven striker. Fingers crossed you are right but …

[Denbury Red]

We seem shot shy - even though build up play has improved the strikers we have just don’t take a chance and have a shot - and one with power.

The goal Watford scored tonight should have been saved by Max - and possibly would have been 8 times out of 10 - but their player took a chance and got lucky.

Twine shot from distance and another day that goes in and we get at least a point.

My frustration is we need to shoot with power - our soft “on target” shots aren’t going to score goals that will turn us into a top 6 side - whether a different manager could teach our strikers to do that - who knows!

[RobImps]

14 minutes ago, Fpcity said:

We'd still have the same players with a poor choice of strikers so unless he can spend a fair bit in Jan or next summer, if we have the money that is after this summer's splash I don't know if he'd make much difference. 

Another manager might try a different formation every now and then when things aren't working... Or try different players... Or even subbing at random times tho!! 

[Mr Popodopolous]

I'm not Manning out but one of two grounds for concern yet some very good play tonight..albeit in defeat.

Heading for another midtable season on current trajectory.

[Henry]

8 minutes ago, Eddie Notgetinya said:

The last 8 games or so have produced drastically improved football and we have limited very good teams to few chances. I wasn’t LM’s biggest fan but he has won me over. We need another proven goal scorer to share the burden with Wells - add that and I don’t think we’re far off competing for that 6th place 

I don’t think it’s any coincidence Manning wasn’t in charge for some of those games.

[bcfc_gaz]

Get Steve Cooper 

[robin_unreliant]

I think someone said on another thread that of the three people running the club BT, JL and LM the coach is definitely not the first one we should be blaming for where we are. Wonder what Coventry fans would say when you look at their form and how much they've spent on their squad. Way more than Manning has been given for worse results.

[BCFCGav]

12 minutes ago, Eddie Notgetinya said:

The last 8 games or so have produced drastically improved football and we have limited very good teams to few chances. I wasn’t LM’s biggest fan but he has won me over. We need another proven goal scorer to share the burden with Wells - add that and I don’t think we’re far off competing for that 6th place 

Completely agree but once we fix the goal-scoring something else will go against us. We are destined to never make the play-offs in this league. The football gods have willed it!

[Fpcity]

8 minutes ago, RobImps said:

Another manager might try a different formation every now and then when things aren't working... Or try different players... Or even subbing at random times tho!! 

What other formation could we play? 

Didn't follow Robins much at Coventry so guessing he did those things there? Like change things up I mean. 

I'm not really a Manning fan by the way. 

[Shauntaylor85]

Robins for me is the one we should have gone for long ago and i would appoint him tomorrow. Failure to beat Plymouth and Portsmouth and the board need to consider him in my view. Strongly. 

[bristol red]

It’s just obvious that we are struggling with goals and maybe playing two up top might be worth considering especially when we concede?

[bristol red]

13 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

I think someone said on another thread that of the three people running the club BT, JL and LM the coach is definitely not the first one we should be blaming for where we are. Wonder what Coventry fans would say when you look at their form and how much they've spent on their squad. Way more than Manning has been given for worse results.

But we were told that Pearson was sacked as he didn’t achieve and we were appointing a head coach to secure a top 6 finish this season. Do you really think that is possible?

[Mr Popodopolous]

18 minutes ago, bcfc_gaz said:

Get Steve Cooper 

Steve Cooper likes big budgets so no real chance.

[alexukhc]

God sake, yes we’ve lost our last 2 games in a row but actually not playing that bad, I’m not sure why we get so close and seem scared of shooting, what @Denbury Red just said we do seem shot shy, is this on Manning? I’m not sure. Plymouth and Portsmouth to me are 6 points though, fingers crossed anyway 

[Topper 123]

Manning will be ok as long as tinnion keeps his nose out and let the manager manage

[bristol red]

So would have Pearson as manager hence he was sacked. Manning the head coach will be obliged to follow Tinnions directive.

[bristol red]

The only reason Tinnion is in the role is that the Lansdowns have no real desire or knowledge in the running of a football club so they stick Tinnion in there to keep things ticking over. Bring in a manager like Pearson and that disrupts that hence another yes man is appointed. 

[The Masked Man]

At the start of the season I would have argued for a change but we're competitive in every game we play at the moment and the squad should get better as the season progresses. We could really do with a decent loan up top in January. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

1 minute ago, The Masked Man said:

We could really do with a decent loan up top in January. 

What an indictment of the Summer Recruitment in respect of the striking and perhaps Twine side of it that would be.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said:

I think someone said on another thread that of the three people running the club BT, JL and LM the coach is definitely not the first one we should be blaming for where we are. Wonder what Coventry fans would say when you look at their form and how much they've spent on their squad. Way more than Manning has been given for worse results.

I’m not convinced by Manning (shock horror), but in some respects he’s bailing those out above him.  At least in his head he has a plan as to how he’s gonna try to achieve success.

Squad building is hard, but I think Manning has made it harder for himself in the way he went about it in the summer as part of the recruitment “collective”.  He’s got some tough decisions ahead of him.  In some ways injuries to our pair of RBs has meant no difficult decision re who plays out of Vyner, Dickie and McNally.  Injury to Twine and Williams has meant he’s been able to play Bird and Knight and give McGuane his opportunity.

[REDOXO]

1 hour ago, bristol red said:

There is something lacking there tactically I think. I agree lacking striker but he was adamant about signing Twine which restricted striker options. Fally and Armstrong were bought in as projects but he gambled to sign Twine over a proven striker. Fingers crossed you are right but …

You nailed that! Buying Twine restricted the wedge available to buy some one that can shoot head and bring others in. 
 

 

[Superjack]

1 hour ago, Topper 123 said:

Manning will be ok as long as tinnion keeps his nose out and let the manager manage

No chance. It's Brian ****ing Tinnion F.C.

[Sleepy1968]

2 hours ago, Denbury Red said:

We seem shot shy - even though build up play has improved the strikers we have just don’t take a chance and have a shot - and one with power.

The goal Watford scored tonight should have been saved by Max - and possibly would have been 8 times out of 10 - but their player took a chance and got lucky.

Twine shot from distance and another day that goes in and we get at least a point.

My frustration is we need to shoot with power - our soft “on target” shots aren’t going to score goals that will turn us into a top 6 side - whether a different manager could teach our strikers to do that - who knows!

You'd have thought that professional forward players in their 20s, who've probably been coached from the age of 10, knew the theory and practical application of shooting.

But I'm prepared to accept that some of them just rely on instinct.

[M.D]

Robins and his asst manager for me but it will not happen despite SL being a big fan..

[westonred]

I dont think Manning is the problem here I was always pro NP and never warmed to LM however the football we are producing (although toothless) is becoming good to watch. I believe we need to get rid of Tinnion he was a god awful manager unpopular with the players at the time but seems to have weaseled his way to a position of power in the club as a yes man for the Lansdowns. If we got rid of BT and brought in a proper DOF who would get rid of the deadwood behind the scenes(we did on the playing side recently) and let the new DOF bring in a proper scouting / recruitment team. BT has said we watch every player we sign more than 40 times either live or on video well i think thats manure if we had seen Fally or Sincs more than 5 times they would have seen what the fans can see now and would not have signed either of them. 

[trickytimes]

7 hours ago, Denbury Red said:

We seem shot shy - even though build up play has improved the strikers we have just don’t take a chance and have a shot - and one with power.

The goal Watford scored tonight should have been saved by Max - and possibly would have been 8 times out of 10 - but their player took a chance and got lucky.

Twine shot from distance and another day that goes in and we get at least a point.

My frustration is we need to shoot with power - our soft “on target” shots aren’t going to score goals that will turn us into a top 6 side - whether a different manager could teach our strikers to do that - who knows!

Are you seriously suggesting that Max should have saved that shot. I know that Max does make mistakes but surely you cant blame him for letting that in.

[DT The Optimist]

What ridiculous thought re Robins…..what could he do to Fally or Sincs any different to LM to make them decent ‘strikers’….  The Watford manager just said we were the better team… we played well but lost and now the rumblings  re LM start again….

We all know they cannot, at this moment of time, step up.LM and the staff will also be aware,it’s how it’s dealt with in January that counts.

[westonred]

14 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said:

What ridiculous thought re Robins…..what could he do to Fally or Sincs any different to LM to make them decent ‘strikers’….  The Watford manager just said we were the better team… we played well but lost and now the rumblings  re LM start again….

We all know they cannot, at this moment of time, step up.LM and the staff will also be aware,it’s how it’s dealt with in January that counts.

No MR couldnt make Sincs or Fally into footballers but he might wake up the Lansdowns realising that BT seems to be pulling the strings and is clueless and we need a proper recruitment team and DOF

[One Team]

7 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Robins for me is the one we should have gone for long ago and i would appoint him tomorrow. Failure to beat Plymouth and Portsmouth and the board need to consider him in my view. Strongly. 

Whilst I don’t disagree I cannot see this happening whatsoever. 

They are fully committed to Manning now. They “love him” (actual quote).

Even if we finish in the bottom half, or worse, it will be passed off as a transitional season and he will be given next season as well. 

This is LJ levels of support, he’s going nowhere. 

[citykelv]

No thanks to Robins. His results nosedived after he fell out with his assistant Viveash . 

Stick with Manning, playing some good stuff but can’t rely on a 35 yr old for goals . Poor recruitment re new strikers from above.

 

Send fally or sincs out on loan , sell Cornick and bring in a more experienced forward . 

Edited Wednesday at 06:43 by citykelv

[WoodsDTES]

3 minutes ago, citykelv said:

No thanks to Robins. His results nosedived after he fell out with his assistant Viveash . 

Stick with Manning, playing some good stuff but can’t rely on a 35 yr old for goals . Poor recruitment re new strikers from above.

 

Send fally or sincs out on loan , sell Cornick and bring in a more experienced forward . 

Agree about Robins.

I’m still struggling with Manning though, we might be playing some nice football but it’s also massively mixed with boring and no other plan or intelligent game changing ideas. You can’t rely on one style of play.

Also not sure we’ll get value for money on any of those deals coming off or even getting anyone else in especially more experienced yet younger than Wells. 
We are where we will be and that lies throughout the club from top to bottom being bang average over a whole season.

[BCFC Rich]

Around the same point last season NP had things coming together - repeating that mistake a year on what be unbelievably stupid. LM has the squad well-drilled and if our finishing was more effective we'd be doing a lot better. It would be ridiculous to rip everything up again now and have someone else come in.

[Topper 123]

1 hour ago, BCFC Rich said:

Around the same point last season NP had things coming together - repeating that mistake a year on what be unbelievably stupid. LM has the squad well-drilled and if our finishing was more effective we'd be doing a lot better. It would be ridiculous to rip everything up again now and have someone else come in.

I agree the football being played is the best football produced for years we just need tinnion to take a step backwards and remember he’s luck to be employed by the club ,let the manager manage , yes the big 5 are beating us but only by the odd goal and if we can bring in a striker in jan and bell returns then perhaps we can push on again COYR 

[BeggyBlaggers]

Id sooner have tony mowbray, when well again, than Robins.

 

Coventry went to pot when Viveash left - despite spending a large amount of money the last 2 seasons.

 

Thats an indicator Robins isnt the be all and end all

[Dastardly and Muttley]

Robins 100%

Likely the only experienced manager that the hierarchy will listen to.

We’d finally have someone in charge who knows what they’re doing.

[JP Hampton]

10 hours ago, Jose said:

We could have Pep in charge ( maybe not best example atm) and he will achieve absolutely **** all with the strikers we have. 
 

While points wise progress hasn’t come and I feel he is learning on the job I’m not sure I’d want him gone. We need to try and build and there has been some good signs. In game management needs sorting though that’s for sure. Big few weeks coming up with games we should be winning. 

Whilst it’s a moot point cos the bosses aren’t sacking LM any time soon, I’m not sure this is true. Your comment suggests that experience stands for nothing, but that’s exactly what LM lacks, at this level. There have been many examples through footballing history where a change of manager has turned teams around.

Could certainly be wrong here, but I am getting a horrible feeling that LM may be getting back to the rigid sort of thinking we saw before Hogg took over. The football is definitely more enjoyable to watch. We weren’t passing the ball like we are now, or even getting the ball in the box like we are now, but something feels likes it’s stagnating again. 
 It’s not enough to sack LM but it is frustrating. 

Edited Wednesday at 09:14 by JP Hampton

[Redrascal2]

Get Robins. Manning is out of his depth.

[MarcusX]

After Cardiff, I was heavily leaning towards get him out. That game, at that stage after the 2 prior performances was must win (for me) and we were shambolic.

We know what happened next, and then some good performances have come about too.

Last night was disappointing, but I generally liked the football we played, we just don't have that cutting edge in the final third. I don't know if that's really Manning's fault - or more to the point I'm not sure a new manager at this stage (with likely very little backing in January) would improve us.

It's not a lack of effort, the players haven't downed tools, the dressing room hasn't been lost by any means, we're generally harder to beat so I don't think there's any immediate improvement that would occur with a new manager. All we'd be doing is preparing for next season, again.

[Phantom]

12 hours ago, bristol red said:

Is it time for Robins to manage the Robins?

Why Robins?

That ship sailed many years ago

12 hours ago, Alan Dicks said:

Robins all the way

Yeah, because he did so well with Cov this season

[Charlie BCFC]

Absolutely no reason to twist with Manning, we’ve been the better side in most of the games we’ve had this season but we’ve not always been clinical. Performance levels suggest we’re heading in the right direction, yes in game management can be better at times but you’d expect professional footballers to finish the chances that they’re getting

[slartibartfast]

Rightly (or wrongly) LM's own personal tragedy has made him virtually unsackable, certainly this season !

[Silvio Dante]

2 hours ago, Topper 123 said:

I agree the football being played is the best football produced for years we just need tinnion to take a step backwards and remember he’s luck to be employed by the club ,let the manager manage , yes the big 5 are beating us but only by the odd goal and if we can bring in a striker in jan and bell returns then perhaps we can push on again COYR 

I see this a lot, and I’m no fan whatsoever of Tinnion, but there is no evidence at all that he is interfering in first team affairs (and I don’t think Liam would let him), he’s certainly not on the bench in the game directing traffic and impacting in game management/subs, and in terms of players in, as has been said, our biggest signing that screwed the budget elsewhere was undoubtedly Liams man.

Tinnion is crap. No doubt. But I don’t buy that he’s not letting the manager manage, and suggesting so both lets Liam “off the hook” when he does make errors and also doesn’t give LM the appropriate credit when we do get a tune.

[Davefevs]

I’m generally happy with how we are playing of late.

I’m frustrated by results.

I’m frustrated by some in-game stuff.

But I’m not calling for LM’s head.

I think if we continue to play like this we will get better results (than the last 4) over a bigger sample.  My question is always “how much better” and “better than what”.

[A Horse With No Name]

12 hours ago, Topper 123 said:

Manning will be ok as long as tinnion keeps his nose out and let the manager manage

And Lansdown for that matter 

[Rob k]

11 hours ago, REDOXO said:

You nailed that! Buying Twine restricted the wedge available to buy some one that can shoot head and bring others in. 
 

 

I don’t believe this to be the case at all, Twine came in after Armstrong and Mayulu were purchased and we still spent 2m on McNally. I don’t believe Twines signing impacted any other signings we were trying to make in the summer.

[Numero Uno]

To suggest that Robins would come in and solve our obvious issues at the top of the pitch is pure fantasy.

[redkev]

Our general play has improved no end , but I front of goal we are generally pretty toothless and our mentality weak ,

The last few games Sheffield Utd / Burnley / Watford we didn’t deserve to lose any imo however teams going places if they don’t win they make sure they don’t lose , stick 3 more points on our total and we’re looking pretty good , however we’re back where we always are mid - fxxking table 

[big dosser]

5 hours ago, trickytimes said:

Are you seriously suggesting that Max should have saved that shot. I know that Max does make mistakes but surely you cant blame him for letting that in.

have to agree if you look at it why did mcnally not put a foot out and also pring was blocked by a very crafty watford player

[Silvio Dante]

17 minutes ago, Rob k said:

I don’t believe this to be the case at all, Twine came in after Armstrong and Mayulu were purchased and we still spent 2m on McNally. I don’t believe Twines signing impacted any other signings we were trying to make in the summer.

I think it did Rob.

The basic fact of the matter is that they knew Conway wasn’t signing a deal, and that he was being sold this summer. And they knew that way before we had the training in the stiffs shenanigans.

That money from Conway was part of the summer budget, and we knew we’d need striking reinforcements. The choice we had was whether we utilised that Conway money in the main on Twine, in turn reducing the cash for strikers, or allocated it elsewhere.

It doesn’t matter the order of operations here because we couldn’t have made it clearer we wanted Scott if we’d laid legs akimbo on a table at the HPC. We waited for him, both hoping Burnley would move and for the Conway money. In the meantime, we moved for Mayulu and Armstrong as they were less of a sure thing.

It was a poorly executed window. But if you work on the basic premise TC was going and we needed a decent striker or two in view of that, then it was a simple choice to skimp on the striker or not sign Twine (and to a degree McNally)

[Rob k]

5 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

I think it did Rob.

The basic fact of the matter is that they knew Conway wasn’t signing a deal, and that he was being sold this summer. And they knew that way before we had the training in the stiffs shenanigans.

That money from Conway was part of the summer budget, and we knew we’d need striking reinforcements. The choice we had was whether we utilised that Conway money in the main on Twine, in turn reducing the cash for strikers, or allocated it elsewhere.

It doesn’t matter the order of operations here because we couldn’t have made it clearer we wanted Scott if we’d laid legs akimbo on a table at the HPC. We waited for him, both hoping Burnley would move and for the Conway money. In the meantime, we moved for Mayulu and Armstrong as they were less of a sure thing.

It was a poorly executed window. But if you work on the basic premise TC was going and we needed a decent striker or two in view of that, then it was a simple choice to skimp on the striker or not sign Twine (and to a degree McNally)

I still don’t think it did have an impact, were told our number 1 striker target was that guy who went to shalke, we then turned our attention to others. What strikers were available for 4-6m that would have come here within our wage structure? 

[Fuber]

13 hours ago, Denbury Red said:

We seem shot shy - even though build up play has improved the strikers we have just don’t take a chance and have a shot - and one with power.

The goal Watford scored tonight should have been saved by Max - and possibly would have been 8 times out of 10 - but their player took a chance and got lucky.

Twine shot from distance and another day that goes in and we get at least a point.

My frustration is we need to shoot with power - our soft “on target” shots aren’t going to score goals that will turn us into a top 6 side - whether a different manager could teach our strikers to do that - who knows!

Disagree on the highlighted. Andrews has a fantastic shot him and it's pinged off the post. Inch perfect placement. Nothing Max could do.

[Northern Red]

8 hours ago, M.D said:

Robins and his asst manager for me but it will not happen despite SL being a big fan..

The assistant that he fell out with and got rid of during the summer?

[Numero Uno]

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

I think it did Rob.

The basic fact of the matter is that they knew Conway wasn’t signing a deal, and that he was being sold this summer. And they knew that way before we had the training in the stiffs shenanigans.

That money from Conway was part of the summer budget, and we knew we’d need striking reinforcements. The choice we had was whether we utilised that Conway money in the main on Twine, in turn reducing the cash for strikers, or allocated it elsewhere.

It doesn’t matter the order of operations here because we couldn’t have made it clearer we wanted Scott if we’d laid legs akimbo on a table at the HPC. We waited for him, both hoping Burnley would move and for the Conway money. In the meantime, we moved for Mayulu and Armstrong as they were less of a sure thing.

It was a poorly executed window. But if you work on the basic premise TC was going and we needed a decent striker or two in view of that, then it was a simple choice to skimp on the striker or not sign Twine (and to a degree McNally)

In hindsight we needed to sign McNally tbf when you look at Atkinson’s painfully long recovery and Dickie’s injury and suspension. We would have been ****** without him. BOTH Twine and Earthy when one would do and BOTH Sinclair and Fally when one would do was the biggest balls up. The spare cash might have got us a forward who you could trust to start 15 games in a row and get you half a dozen goals, that 70 minute player @Davefevswas talking about.

[REDOXO]

2 hours ago, Rob k said:

I don’t believe this to be the case at all, Twine came in after Armstrong and Mayulu were purchased and we still spent 2m on McNally. I don’t believe Twines signing impacted any other signings we were trying to make in the summer.

Twine was being chased all summer and before that is a matter of record. 
 

We have a budget. Clubs do it’s just a thing. How many times have you heard the term cheap option on here. 
 

Thus about 3-4m was ear marked for the purchase of Twine. Some money was earmarked in wages for the alternative Earthy. 
 

Thus we are looking in a range for forwards…..Two of them that once it was final that the club had some how pissed off Tommy Conway to the point that his agent was saying no.Thus more forward money opened up

Our two forward replacements were both total punts, with no pedigree one of which had never even played here. If you think what we projected to pay Burnley and WHU didn’t effect on what we could pay for forwards then I would think again. 
 

McNally was of interest for sometime , however we had a center back crisis in the minds of Mssrs Manning/Tinnion due to injury and as they did not want to play our own players developed internally money was released for McNally to prop up our back four. 
 

However I like your premise! That we brought in two cack forwards at about 5m (also loaned Earthy) and budget had nothing to do with it, as it does then mean the football club made horrifically bad decisions on a wholly football basis and not cutting cloth accordingly and Manning/Tinnion should own it! 

Edited Wednesday at 14:17 by REDOXO

[Numero Uno]

42 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

McNally was of interest for sometime , however we had a center back crisis in the minds of Mssrs Manning/Tinnion due to injury and as they did not want to play our own players developed internally money was released for McNally to prop up our back four. 

Do you disagree with the view that Dickie being out for nigh on three months, Atkinson seemingly taking three years to get up to speed and Naismith being as reliable as a ten year old Trebant, fitness wise, was a bit of a crisis?

Who did we have in the 21's that was/is anywhere near the level of McNally? I mean ANYWHERE near not just near. You don't even need to answer tbf because if we had someone then that name would have been plastered all over this forum after every defeat.....................our First Team plays big boys football and you need to be at the technical, physical and mentality levels that young Morrison is to even get near the pitch, not find it hard work against the likes of Exeter 21's and Bromley B. JKL might get there but he's not there just yet and is getting a great grounding at Crewe. We ain't quite got the conveyor belt of "Championship Ready" (the important bit) pathway talent coming through that some people are being kidded into thinking we've got. The pathway is only being blocked when you have kids that are good enough and tough enough, otherwise there is no pathway for a player until they sort those rather fundamental issues out (as Morrison has).

Whether through hindsight tinted spectacles or otherwise, McNally is one of our better recruits this summer/autumn alongside the ever improving McGuane in my view. The two biggest positives by far amongst a lot of currently questionable recruitment since the final whistle blew in May (not to say it won't come good in the end but it isn't pulling up trees here and now). Bird is also very decent but was recruited almost a year ago in effect.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Manning. Why bring in Robins, no doubt at great expense, with no guarantee of improvement. We are not Coventry and the ownership involvement and structure of the clubs are different. Forget the stats and use your eyes, Manning has improved the side. 

[Dastardly and Muttley]

3 hours ago, Fuber said:

Disagree on the highlighted. Andrews has a fantastic shot him and it's pinged off the post. Inch perfect placement. Nothing Max could do.

It’s a great shot, but it’s from quite a distance, Max had an unobstructed view and it’s not hit that powerfully. I reckon Bachmann would have saved it.

[W-S-M Seagull]

9 hours ago, citykelv said:

No thanks to Robins. His results nosedived after he fell out with his assistant Viveash . 

This! Without his assistant I'm not sure on him. 

Also he had tens of millions to spend at Coventry and left them below us in the table. 

[Numero Uno]

41 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Manning. Why bring in Robins, no doubt at great expense, with no guarantee of improvement. We are not Coventry and the ownership involvement and structure of the clubs are different. Forget the stats and use your eyes, Manning has improved the side. 

The obvious question is what is Robins, with what he's got, going to do differently? After three weeks of Robins is one of Armstrong or Fally going to score 15 goals in the second half of the season all of a sudden?

I mean only a basket case club would spend another £2m on settlements replacing more staff and end up finishing in pretty much the same place they were always going to anyway, having done exactly the same thing twelve months before.

I get we're all disappointed with the result last night, I know I am, but **** me.................

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27 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I mean only a basket case club would spend another £2m on settlements replacing more staff and end up finishing in pretty much the same place they were always going to anyway, having done exactly the same thing twelve months before.

I didn't think it was likely until you put it like that.