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You can’t even see a few green shoots to make you think it’ll get better. It’s not working, get him and Tinnion gone before they do any more damage. 
 

Time to cut our losses.

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Shouldnt have been given the summer to begin with and nowwe are in Groundhog Day having wasted millions on a clueless novice.

Guess its time to get an experienced head to clear up the mess yet again!

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Just now, Jacki said:

You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. 

Not completely pointless

We can at least get someone in to try and get some excitement back into a match day not this emotionless city football group manual clown

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7 minutes ago, Jacki said:

You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. 

I don’t disagree but that’s no reason to keep this bluffer in charge. Get him gone. The football is utter dirge.

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5 minutes ago, Andrew_V1 said:

Not completely pointless

We can at least get someone in to try and get some excitement back into a match day not this emotionless city football group manual clown

I agree. Let's have some excitement. Bung some kids in. They might surprise us.

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11 minutes ago, Jacki said:

You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. 

I think you belittle the impact that a strong experienced manager could bring.

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Problem isn’t with him. We’ll continue to replace with managers whose ceiling is mid table championship and scream surprise when that’s what they achieve. I might’ve agreed if my envisioned replacement didn’t just sign for Saint Etienne  😆

We won’t sign proven managers, we do not have the pedigree, nor funds, and when we hire unproven managers we’ll hire ones that are barely a risk like Holden, LJ and Manning.

Speaks volumes when our CEO, who shalt not be named spent his time here scouting a top coach, we persisted with LJ then Holden. Then he who shalt not be named hired him and then achieved back to back promotions with a different team signing 20 odd players.

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19 minutes ago, Robbored said:

2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game.

Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? ……..:dunno:

Lots of empty  seats  boxing day ,I ain't dragging myself  down to watch this shit 

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2 minutes ago, east sussex red said:

I think you belittle the impact that a strong experienced manager could bring.

we had one before the fools brought in this one with NO EXP FFS

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9 minutes ago, MythikRobins said:

Problem isn’t with him. We’ll continue to replace with managers whose ceiling is mid table championship and scream surprise when that’s what they achieve. I might’ve agreed if my envisioned replacement didn’t just sign for Saint Etienne  😆

We won’t sign proven managers, we do not have the pedigree, nor funds, and when we hire unproven managers we’ll hire ones that are barely a risk like Holden, LJ and Manning.

Speaks volumes when our CEO, who shalt not be named spent his time here scouting a top coach, we persisted with LJ then Holden. Then he who shalt not be named hired him and then achieved back to back promotions with a different team signing 20 odd players.

Funny how Ashton doesn’t get slagged off here any longer…. 

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10 minutes ago, east sussex red said:

I think you belittle the impact that a strong experienced manager could bring.

Yes and this lot have zero confidence. They are confused, playing without belief and passion.  A proper manager with man-management skill WILL get more out of this squad. 

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I have a feeling if/when we dont beat Luton on Thursday that atmosphere will be very toxic. So much for Xmas spirit. 

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26 minutes ago, Jacki said:

You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. 

Exactly right, the fault lies with the Lansdownes. Thank god I didn’t buy a season ticket this year. The seasons over.

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As bad as we have ever been at this level

Lack of quality throughout - team, coaching staff,  scouting staff, Tinnion, The Lansdowns.

We need to start at the top and work our way down winnowing as we go

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7 minutes ago, fisherrich said:

Exactly right, the fault lies with the Lansdownes. Thank god I didn’t buy a season ticket this year. The seasons over.

It his club and he told you that a few seasons ago.

How dare you!

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6 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

As bad as we have ever been at this level

Lack of quality throughout - team, coaching staff,  scouting staff, Tinnion, The Lansdowns.

We need to start at the top and work our way down winnowing as we go

Whilst it’s pretty bad at the moment it’s not a patch on the shit Mcinnes & O’Driscoll dished up though.

Or Millen! 

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The Tinnion/ Manning experiment is failing badly . Need to get shot of them both immediately , ditch the “ head coach” BS and get a Manager in who controls both the first team AND recruitment as we did under Pearson . Before anyone says that didn’t work either , Pearson was working whilst dealing with a serious illness which was clearly hindering him . The structure however was perfectly sound !

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2 minutes ago, Hazelboy said:

Whilst it’s pretty bad at the moment it’s not a patch on the shit Mcinnes & O’Driscoll dished up though.

Or Millen! 

There is when you consider money spent.

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Mark Robins is out of a job?    I am not gonna join the kneejerkers, and say Manning should go..................but I have seen very little progress, and we are basically treading water in mid table for the forseeable  future?  And his recruitment record, especially upfront, is desperately poor.............Merry Xmas to all OTIB Members......  😍😝

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46 minutes ago, Robbored said:

2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game.

Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? ……..:dunno:

Manning is safe.

He won't rock the boat.

He isn't going anywhere. 

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1. What player has he improved? 

2. We are definitely coached to just be slow and over pass it, players seem scared to shoot 

3. Shouldn't be allowed anymore money for players, train Fally/Armstrong and change tactics to get a tune out of them 

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2 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Mark Robins is out of a job?    I am not gonna join the kneejerkers, and say Manning should go..................but I have seen very little progress, and we are basically treading water in mid table for the forseeable  future?  And Tinnion's recruitment record, especially upfront, is desperately poor.............Merry Xmas to all OTIB Members......  😍😝

Fixed.

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Watching it on tv today,but I’ve been to all but 2 away games this season.

we look worse than Portsmouth away,truly shocking and it’s time for manning to go,we are going nowhere with him and he was meant to be an upgrade from Pearson,what a joke

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50 minutes ago, Robbored said:

2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game.

Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? ……..:dunno:

Have to agree. No signs of improvement, suspect player recruitment - time for a change.

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Given the money which has been spent (wasted) the season is just unacceptable. Based on their decisions last year Tinnion and the Chairman should both go, but they won’t. Problem with sacking Manning is who would replace him? No sensible manager will want the job under the current structure. 

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I think what frustrates me most is that, in October and November, it was really starting to look like we’d turned a corner and found a bit of rhythm and some foundations we could build on. (As it did between March and April, in fairness). But every time that start to be signs that we might be okay, the crap results start again and then the crap performances follow.

Over a year in, I see nothing that tells me that recruitment is in the right direction or that Manning is ever going to get consistently good performances out of the team. I can’t list the players he has improved, I can’t list the youngsters he has developed and brought through and a startlingly low % of his signings would be in my first XI. 
 

It’s never nice seeing managers sacked but I really struggle to see good arguments for sticking with him. 

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3 minutes ago, Slacker said:

Manning is safe.

He won't rock the boat.

He isn't going anywhere. 

Unfortunately you’re spot on, plus Manning is on a 4 year contract and City won’t to pay up 3 years of his remaining contract.

We’re stuck with him.

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Just now, Robbored said:

Unfortunately you’re spot on, plus Manning is on a 4 year contract and City won’t to pay up 3 years of his remaining contract.

We’re stuck with him.

Powers that be need to apply pressure, they can't be happy with the amount spent and current results 

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Time for that old classic chant from yesteryear..

We want Tinnion out, we want Tinnion out.

Followed by an even louder rendition of we want the Lansdowns out are in order if you ask me.

 

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I think it's time - I made up my mind last week when he called out the players, but refused to take any responsibility for the result. I think he's lost the dressing room too.

Unfortunately, it will take section 82 a few more games to think the same.

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4 minutes ago, maxjak said:

Mark Robins is out of a job?    I am not gonna join the kneejerkers, and say Manning should go..................but I have seen very little progress, and we are basically treading water in mid table for the forseeable  future?  And his recruitment record, especially upfront, is desperately poor.............Merry Xmas to all OTIB Members......  😍😝

Exact kind of manager you hire when you’re desperate to please fans. Considering the strength of his last 3 or 4 Coventry teams, which are all stronger than our team right now I’d find it hard to believe he’d achieve more here than what he achieved with them. Also, working under stricter conditions here then as of recent at Coventry. Good manager though.

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4 minutes ago, Capman said:

Given the money which has been spent (wasted) the season is just unacceptable. Based on their decisions last year Tinnion and the Chairman should both go, but they won’t. Problem with sacking Manning is who would replace him? No sensible manager will want the job under the current structure. 

As i remarked earlier.......Mark Robins is not in a job..........he just turned down Millwall, I don't think he would turn us down?

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57 minutes ago, Robbored said:

2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game.

Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? ……..:dunno:

Yep. Sack Manning tonight. The guy has spent a fortune, is utter clueless, has no plan b, plays poor football, has regressed us from Nigel’s era. Oh and can he take Tinnion with him! Sack both!!!! Now! 

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Just now, MythikRobins said:

Exact kind of manager you hire when you’re desperate to please fans. Considering the strength of his last 3 or 4 Coventry teams, which are all stronger than our team right now I’d find it hard to believe he’d achieve more here than what he achieved with them. Also, working under stricter conditions here then as of recent at Coventry. Good manager though.

Turned down the Millwall job, he knows football, WTF would he want to work alongside a clown like Tinnion?

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11 minutes ago, Baldyman said:

The Tinnion/ Manning experiment is failing badly . Need to get shot of them both immediately , ditch the “ head coach” BS and get a Manager in who controls both the first team AND recruitment as we did under Pearson . Before anyone says that didn’t work either , Pearson was working whilst dealing with a serious illness which was clearly hindering him . The structure however was perfectly sound !

Plus a Board that acts like a Board, Plus a Chairman that acts like a Chairman The club is rotten from the top down.

5 minutes ago, Capman said:

Given the money which has been spent (wasted) the season is just unacceptable. Based on their decisions last year Tinnion and the Chairman should both go, but they won’t. Problem with sacking Manning is who would replace him? No sensible manager will want the job under the current structure. 

It is the Lansdownes that need to go. How much longer do we have to put up with this dross. Really boils my piss.

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45 minutes ago, Jacki said:

I have it on good authority that Tinnion was rubbing his hands together at HPC  the day Semenyo went saying something like ‘£11m for an 8 goal a season player’, gloating about what a great deal it was. Semenyo scored at Old Trafford while we’re stinking the place out again with in the league below. The man is a moron… 

I was rather under the impression that selling Semenyo was important to FFP but he is a moron and if he was celebrating his departure wow...

I reluctantly accepted it as a) 18 months left on deal and b) The financial mess but Tinnion is a moron and then some.

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Just now, GrahamC said:

Turned down the Millwall job, he knows football, WTF would he want to work alongside a clown like Tinnion?

That too links back to my previous post about those kind of managers not signing for us. He’s clearly waiting for a playoff/PP club. Fair play.

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17 minutes ago, Hazelboy said:

Whilst it’s pretty bad at the moment it’s not a patch on the shit Mcinnes & O’Driscoll dished up though.

Or Millen! 

Holden?

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3 minutes ago, MythikRobins said:

Exact kind of manager you hire when you’re desperate to please fans. Considering the strength of his last 3 or 4 Coventry teams, which are all stronger than our team right now I’d find it hard to believe he’d achieve more here than what he achieved with them. Also, working under stricter conditions here then as of recent at Coventry. Good manager though.

7 years at Coventry and a penalty kick away from the Prem.....just saying?

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4 minutes ago, maxjak said:

As i remarked earlier.......Mark Robins is not in a job..........he just turned down Millwall, I don't think he would turn us down?

Wouldn't want him without Viveash.

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That today was proper crap. 

We look poorly coached, we can't defend, we can't score and we are dull as dishwater. 

1 win in 7 is it I think? 

The sooner he's sacked the better, because I'm absolutely certain we won't go anywhere under Manning, and this could drag on for months which would be disastrous. 

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50 minutes ago, Jacki said:

I have it on good authority that Tinnion was rubbing his hands together at HPC  the day Semenyo went saying something like ‘£11m for an 8 goal a season player’, gloating about what a great deal it was. Semenyo scored at Old Trafford while we’re stinking the place out again with in the league below. The man is a moron… 

Surely only Tinnion and Ian Gay would know if that's true...

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57 minutes ago, Jacki said:

You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. 

Saves me typing it! Every City fan needs to know this sentence word for word.

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21 minutes ago, Hazelboy said:

Whilst it’s pretty bad at the moment it’s not a patch on the shit Mcinnes & O’Driscoll dished up though.

Or Millen! 

Relative to resources and off pitch revenue..solid base inherited its abysmal.

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Canning Manning won’t make a blind bit of difference - so long as the cretinous Lansdowns are calling the shots this club will continue to be mediocre at best.

I for one do not want to see that chromium-plated Fanny Junior allowed to make another terrible managerial appointment - he’s had countless chances and he’s blown it every single time. 
 

I can juat see it now; his annoying face as he conducts another interview saying “all the elements are in place” and “we need to identify the man to take us forward”, while completely absolving himself or his old man of any of the blame as to why we are in the rut we are in.

Manning and even “Tins” are merely symptoms of the creeping malaise at BCFC. We need to pluck up the problem by the roots, which means ousting the owners.

Cue a load of apologists coming back with “who’s going to pump in the investment?” 🙄

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While being sceptical of LM’s ability to improve us, I have wanted him to succeed (obvs) until today. We’ve had some bad results and performances, but it still felt the players believed in what they were doing. Today is different. That belief appears to have gone.

4 wins in 16 is distinctly lower-/mid-table. No back to back wins. Even amid some decent performances, results are all that count and in my mind LM is not delivering in that respect.

i know the argument with BT/JL is there’s a risk they’ll recruit another Manning-type or worse. But, based on the broken clock principle, I’m now ready to risk it. I still don’t actually believe they would pull the trigger ATM, but it would be worth seeing them going into all kinds of contortions to justify their decision to hire and then fire LM. (And it’s not personal-LM has had a nightmare of a time personally. I just think he’s not the right person to manage our club).

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1 minute ago, CityGill said:

Here is the problem:

Tinnion won’t sack his appointment,

Lansdown Jr won’t sack his friend,

Lansdown Sr won’t sack his son.

This club is passive, without personality and boring to its core. I feel so sorry for the fans, because if we appointed a new manager, it would just be another person in the same mould. 
 

I feel sorry to the players, because I wouldn’t just want to be “coached” I’d want to be led and inspired.

The fans have never turned on Steve L. That will be the only way he either puts in place people to run the club properly or he sells. Until then, it is more of the same amateur crap we have had through his tenure. it is his club, his money, his toy.

The fans are being held to ransom

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Sack them all. No faith in these people running our club, JL is not a chairman, Tinnion is not a Tech Director and Manning is certainly not a championship level Head Coach, if I was SL I would be fuming after backing them in the summer. What a load of dross!  

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