Popular Post Robbored Posted December 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 22, 2024 2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game. Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? …….. 89 3 16 Quote
fly in the air Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 As long as yes man Tinnion is there nothing will change. 6 5 Quote
ZiderEyed Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 You can’t even see a few green shoots to make you think it’ll get better. It’s not working, get him and Tinnion gone before they do any more damage. Time to cut our losses. 6 3 Quote
Andrew_V1 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Shouldnt have been given the summer to begin with and nowwe are in Groundhog Day having wasted millions on a clueless novice. Guess its time to get an experienced head to clear up the mess yet again! 9 1 Quote
GrahamC Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 minute ago, fly in the air said: As long as yes man Tinnion is there nothing will change. This. 1 1 Quote
Popular Post Jacki Posted December 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 22, 2024 You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. 38 2 13 Quote
Andrew_V1 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Just now, Jacki said: You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. Not completely pointless We can at least get someone in to try and get some excitement back into a match day not this emotionless city football group manual clown 1 Quote
Popular Post Jacki Posted December 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 22, 2024 I have it on good authority that Tinnion was rubbing his hands together at HPC the day Semenyo went saying something like ‘£11m for an 8 goal a season player’, gloating about what a great deal it was. Semenyo scored at Old Trafford while we’re stinking the place out again with in the league below. The man is a moron… 38 3 15 Quote
not_for_you Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 7 minutes ago, Jacki said: You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. I don’t disagree but that’s no reason to keep this bluffer in charge. Get him gone. The football is utter dirge. 9 3 Quote
Nomad Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 5 minutes ago, Andrew_V1 said: Not completely pointless We can at least get someone in to try and get some excitement back into a match day not this emotionless city football group manual clown I agree. Let's have some excitement. Bung some kids in. They might surprise us. Quote
fly in the air Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 out of his depth in his role. surely steve can see that. he seems more interested in the rugby. his son has no balls to make decisions. 10 Quote
east sussex red Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 11 minutes ago, Jacki said: You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. I think you belittle the impact that a strong experienced manager could bring. 2 1 Quote
MythikRobins Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) Problem isn’t with him. We’ll continue to replace with managers whose ceiling is mid table championship and scream surprise when that’s what they achieve. I might’ve agreed if my envisioned replacement didn’t just sign for Saint Etienne We won’t sign proven managers, we do not have the pedigree, nor funds, and when we hire unproven managers we’ll hire ones that are barely a risk like Holden, LJ and Manning. Speaks volumes when our CEO, who shalt not be named spent his time here scouting a top coach, we persisted with LJ then Holden. Then he who shalt not be named hired him and then achieved back to back promotions with a different team signing 20 odd players. Edited December 22, 2024 by MythikRobins 2 2 Quote
RedReg Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Time to go, boring football, terrible results. But it won't happen. Quote
95red Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 19 minutes ago, Robbored said: 2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game. Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? …….. Lots of empty seats boxing day ,I ain't dragging myself down to watch this shit 4 Quote
temp Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, east sussex red said: I think you belittle the impact that a strong experienced manager could bring. we had one before the fools brought in this one with NO EXP FFS 2 1 Quote
aa_bcfc Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 minute ago, 95red said: Lots of empty seats boxing day ,I ain't dragging myself down to watch this shit Neither am I. 2 Quote
temp Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 They will have to act if they want to sell ST`s 2 Quote
Popular Post Jacki Posted December 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, east sussex red said: I think you belittle the impact that a strong experienced manager could bring. We had one of those. He sorted us out financially and stabilised us in the league in difficult circumstances with no money. He was replaced with a rookie who’s been given the keys to the kingdom and way more backing and, here we are. A strong and experienced manager left to get on with it would be exactly what we need, but as soon as they asked any difficult questions of the owners or the Tecknical Director they’d be on their way. It’s a well trodden path… 9 1 10 Quote
Mendip City Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 9 minutes ago, MythikRobins said: Problem isn’t with him. We’ll continue to replace with managers whose ceiling is mid table championship and scream surprise when that’s what they achieve. I might’ve agreed if my envisioned replacement didn’t just sign for Saint Etienne We won’t sign proven managers, we do not have the pedigree, nor funds, and when we hire unproven managers we’ll hire ones that are barely a risk like Holden, LJ and Manning. Speaks volumes when our CEO, who shalt not be named spent his time here scouting a top coach, we persisted with LJ then Holden. Then he who shalt not be named hired him and then achieved back to back promotions with a different team signing 20 odd players. Funny how Ashton doesn’t get slagged off here any longer…. 1 Quote
Mendip City Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 10 minutes ago, east sussex red said: I think you belittle the impact that a strong experienced manager could bring. Yes and this lot have zero confidence. They are confused, playing without belief and passion. A proper manager with man-management skill WILL get more out of this squad. 4 1 Quote
BS3_RED Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 I have a feeling if/when we dont beat Luton on Thursday that atmosphere will be very toxic. So much for Xmas spirit. 2 Quote
fisherrich Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 26 minutes ago, Jacki said: You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. Exactly right, the fault lies with the Lansdownes. Thank god I didn’t buy a season ticket this year. The seasons over. 4 Quote
Ivorguy Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) As bad as we have ever been at this level Lack of quality throughout - team, coaching staff, scouting staff, Tinnion, The Lansdowns. We need to start at the top and work our way down winnowing as we go Edited December 22, 2024 by Ivorguy 2 Quote
AppyDAZE Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 7 minutes ago, fisherrich said: Exactly right, the fault lies with the Lansdownes. Thank god I didn’t buy a season ticket this year. The seasons over. It his club and he told you that a few seasons ago. How dare you! 2 1 Quote
Hazelboy Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: As bad as we have ever been at this level Lack of quality throughout - team, coaching staff, scouting staff, Tinnion, The Lansdowns. We need to start at the top and work our way down winnowing as we go Whilst it’s pretty bad at the moment it’s not a patch on the shit Mcinnes & O’Driscoll dished up though. Or Millen! Edited December 22, 2024 by Hazelboy 3 1 Quote
Baldyman Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 The Tinnion/ Manning experiment is failing badly . Need to get shot of them both immediately , ditch the “ head coach” BS and get a Manager in who controls both the first team AND recruitment as we did under Pearson . Before anyone says that didn’t work either , Pearson was working whilst dealing with a serious illness which was clearly hindering him . The structure however was perfectly sound ! 9 Quote
Fuber Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, Hazelboy said: Whilst it’s pretty bad at the moment it’s not a patch on the shit Mcinnes & O’Driscoll dished up though. Or Millen! There is when you consider money spent. 4 1 Quote
maxjak Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Mark Robins is out of a job? I am not gonna join the kneejerkers, and say Manning should go..................but I have seen very little progress, and we are basically treading water in mid table for the forseeable future? And his recruitment record, especially upfront, is desperately poor.............Merry Xmas to all OTIB Members...... 2 Quote
Slacker Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 46 minutes ago, Robbored said: 2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game. Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? …….. Manning is safe. He won't rock the boat. He isn't going anywhere. Quote
Slack Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1. What player has he improved? 2. We are definitely coached to just be slow and over pass it, players seem scared to shoot 3. Shouldn't be allowed anymore money for players, train Fally/Armstrong and change tactics to get a tune out of them 1 Quote
Fuber Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, maxjak said: Mark Robins is out of a job? I am not gonna join the kneejerkers, and say Manning should go..................but I have seen very little progress, and we are basically treading water in mid table for the forseeable future? And Tinnion's recruitment record, especially upfront, is desperately poor.............Merry Xmas to all OTIB Members...... Fixed. Quote
Woofyourkipper Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Watching it on tv today,but I’ve been to all but 2 away games this season. we look worse than Portsmouth away,truly shocking and it’s time for manning to go,we are going nowhere with him and he was meant to be an upgrade from Pearson,what a joke 4 Quote
Buster Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Manning has to go his tactics are nonexistent utter rubbish. 1 Quote
Lack of Action Man Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 50 minutes ago, Robbored said: 2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game. Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? …….. Have to agree. No signs of improvement, suspect player recruitment - time for a change. 1 Quote
Capman Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Given the money which has been spent (wasted) the season is just unacceptable. Based on their decisions last year Tinnion and the Chairman should both go, but they won’t. Problem with sacking Manning is who would replace him? No sensible manager will want the job under the current structure. 4 Quote
LondonBristolian Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) I think what frustrates me most is that, in October and November, it was really starting to look like we’d turned a corner and found a bit of rhythm and some foundations we could build on. (As it did between March and April, in fairness). But every time that start to be signs that we might be okay, the crap results start again and then the crap performances follow. Over a year in, I see nothing that tells me that recruitment is in the right direction or that Manning is ever going to get consistently good performances out of the team. I can’t list the players he has improved, I can’t list the youngsters he has developed and brought through and a startlingly low % of his signings would be in my first XI. It’s never nice seeing managers sacked but I really struggle to see good arguments for sticking with him. Edited December 22, 2024 by LondonBristolian 8 Quote
Robbored Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Slacker said: Manning is safe. He won't rock the boat. He isn't going anywhere. Unfortunately you’re spot on, plus Manning is on a 4 year contract and City won’t to pay up 3 years of his remaining contract. We’re stuck with him. Quote
Slack Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Just now, Robbored said: Unfortunately you’re spot on, plus Manning is on a 4 year contract and City won’t to pay up 3 years of his remaining contract. We’re stuck with him. Powers that be need to apply pressure, they can't be happy with the amount spent and current results Quote
archie andrews Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Be crowds of 10 thousand soon..... Quote
AppyDAZE Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Time for that old classic chant from yesteryear.. We want Tinnion out, we want Tinnion out. Followed by an even louder rendition of we want the Lansdowns out are in order if you ask me. 6 1 1 Quote
PortInTheMorning Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) I think it's time - I made up my mind last week when he called out the players, but refused to take any responsibility for the result. I think he's lost the dressing room too. Unfortunately, it will take section 82 a few more games to think the same. Edited December 22, 2024 by PortInTheMorning Quote
cidercity1987 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 minute ago, archie andrews said: Be crowds of 10 thousand soon..... Our attendances are amazing for our lack of success, ever 4 Quote
MythikRobins Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, maxjak said: Mark Robins is out of a job? I am not gonna join the kneejerkers, and say Manning should go..................but I have seen very little progress, and we are basically treading water in mid table for the forseeable future? And his recruitment record, especially upfront, is desperately poor.............Merry Xmas to all OTIB Members...... Exact kind of manager you hire when you’re desperate to please fans. Considering the strength of his last 3 or 4 Coventry teams, which are all stronger than our team right now I’d find it hard to believe he’d achieve more here than what he achieved with them. Also, working under stricter conditions here then as of recent at Coventry. Good manager though. 1 Quote
maxjak Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, Capman said: Given the money which has been spent (wasted) the season is just unacceptable. Based on their decisions last year Tinnion and the Chairman should both go, but they won’t. Problem with sacking Manning is who would replace him? No sensible manager will want the job under the current structure. As i remarked earlier.......Mark Robins is not in a job..........he just turned down Millwall, I don't think he would turn us down? 1 Quote
Shauntaylor85 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Robbored said: 2-0 down at the Hawthornes, barely a shot on target - it’s crap and I’m fed up with the uninspiring shite that Manning is serving up game after game. Nige was sacked so-say because of results - surely the same should apply to Manning? …….. Yep. Sack Manning tonight. The guy has spent a fortune, is utter clueless, has no plan b, plays poor football, has regressed us from Nigel’s era. Oh and can he take Tinnion with him! Sack both!!!! Now! Edited December 22, 2024 by Shauntaylor85 1 1 3 Quote
GrahamC Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Just now, MythikRobins said: Exact kind of manager you hire when you’re desperate to please fans. Considering the strength of his last 3 or 4 Coventry teams, which are all stronger than our team right now I’d find it hard to believe he’d achieve more here than what he achieved with them. Also, working under stricter conditions here then as of recent at Coventry. Good manager though. Turned down the Millwall job, he knows football, WTF would he want to work alongside a clown like Tinnion? 7 2 1 Quote
fisherrich Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 11 minutes ago, Baldyman said: The Tinnion/ Manning experiment is failing badly . Need to get shot of them both immediately , ditch the “ head coach” BS and get a Manager in who controls both the first team AND recruitment as we did under Pearson . Before anyone says that didn’t work either , Pearson was working whilst dealing with a serious illness which was clearly hindering him . The structure however was perfectly sound ! Plus a Board that acts like a Board, Plus a Chairman that acts like a Chairman The club is rotten from the top down. 5 minutes ago, Capman said: Given the money which has been spent (wasted) the season is just unacceptable. Based on their decisions last year Tinnion and the Chairman should both go, but they won’t. Problem with sacking Manning is who would replace him? No sensible manager will want the job under the current structure. It is the Lansdownes that need to go. How much longer do we have to put up with this dross. Really boils my piss. 3 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 45 minutes ago, Jacki said: I have it on good authority that Tinnion was rubbing his hands together at HPC the day Semenyo went saying something like ‘£11m for an 8 goal a season player’, gloating about what a great deal it was. Semenyo scored at Old Trafford while we’re stinking the place out again with in the league below. The man is a moron… I was rather under the impression that selling Semenyo was important to FFP but he is a moron and if he was celebrating his departure wow... I reluctantly accepted it as a) 18 months left on deal and b) The financial mess but Tinnion is a moron and then some. Quote
Ivorguy Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 11 minutes ago, Slacker said: Manning is safe. He won't rock the boat. He isn't going anywhere. The we have somehow to rock that boat 1 Quote
MythikRobins Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Just now, GrahamC said: Turned down the Millwall job, he knows football, WTF would he want to work alongside a clown like Tinnion? That too links back to my previous post about those kind of managers not signing for us. He’s clearly waiting for a playoff/PP club. Fair play. 2 Quote
DaveF Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 17 minutes ago, Hazelboy said: Whilst it’s pretty bad at the moment it’s not a patch on the shit Mcinnes & O’Driscoll dished up though. Or Millen! Holden? 1 Quote
maxjak Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, MythikRobins said: Exact kind of manager you hire when you’re desperate to please fans. Considering the strength of his last 3 or 4 Coventry teams, which are all stronger than our team right now I’d find it hard to believe he’d achieve more here than what he achieved with them. Also, working under stricter conditions here then as of recent at Coventry. Good manager though. 7 years at Coventry and a penalty kick away from the Prem.....just saying? Quote
temp Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: The we have somehow to rock that boat WALK AWAY F`em 2 Quote
Fuber Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, maxjak said: As i remarked earlier.......Mark Robins is not in a job..........he just turned down Millwall, I don't think he would turn us down? Wouldn't want him without Viveash. 2 Quote
Denbury Red Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 What will Manning's excuse be this time!!!!! Quote
RobImps Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 That today was proper crap. We look poorly coached, we can't defend, we can't score and we are dull as dishwater. 1 win in 7 is it I think? The sooner he's sacked the better, because I'm absolutely certain we won't go anywhere under Manning, and this could drag on for months which would be disastrous. 1 Quote
DaveF Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 50 minutes ago, Jacki said: I have it on good authority that Tinnion was rubbing his hands together at HPC the day Semenyo went saying something like ‘£11m for an 8 goal a season player’, gloating about what a great deal it was. Semenyo scored at Old Trafford while we’re stinking the place out again with in the league below. The man is a moron… Surely only Tinnion and Ian Gay would know if that's true... 1 2 Quote
BCFCGav Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 57 minutes ago, Jacki said: You can sack as many managers as you like but while we have the Lansdowns and Tinnion in situ, any change in manager is absolutely pointless. We’re where we’ll always be under these idiots. Saves me typing it! Every City fan needs to know this sentence word for word. 1 Quote
Fuber Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Anyone take Cooper? Actual track record. Practical. 1 Quote
Popular Post CityGill Posted December 22, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 22, 2024 Here is the problem: Tinnion won’t sack his appointment, Lansdown Jr won’t sack his friend, Lansdown Sr won’t sack his son. This club is passive, without personality and boring to its core. I feel so sorry for the fans, because if we appointed a new manager, it would just be another person in the same mould. I feel sorry to the players, because I wouldn’t just want to be “coached” I’d want to be led and inspired. 14 2 4 Quote
Out of his pie crust Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Does feel massively like a complete overhaul of ownership and some new ideas/organisation/personnel is required. Think we’re at our ceiling with the current set up 2 1 Quote
maxjak Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 minute ago, Fuber said: Wouldn't want him without Viveash. Thanks.....I'll let Mark Know? Quote
RollsRoyce Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 hour ago, fly in the air said: As long as yes man Tinnion is there nothing will change. Agree, both need to be shown the door. It has been an absolute shambles . Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 21 minutes ago, Hazelboy said: Whilst it’s pretty bad at the moment it’s not a patch on the shit Mcinnes & O’Driscoll dished up though. Or Millen! Relative to resources and off pitch revenue..solid base inherited its abysmal. Quote
WessexPest Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Canning Manning won’t make a blind bit of difference - so long as the cretinous Lansdowns are calling the shots this club will continue to be mediocre at best. I for one do not want to see that chromium-plated Fanny Junior allowed to make another terrible managerial appointment - he’s had countless chances and he’s blown it every single time. I can juat see it now; his annoying face as he conducts another interview saying “all the elements are in place” and “we need to identify the man to take us forward”, while completely absolving himself or his old man of any of the blame as to why we are in the rut we are in. Manning and even “Tins” are merely symptoms of the creeping malaise at BCFC. We need to pluck up the problem by the roots, which means ousting the owners. Cue a load of apologists coming back with “who’s going to pump in the investment?” 3 2 Quote
NDW4CITY Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 While being sceptical of LM’s ability to improve us, I have wanted him to succeed (obvs) until today. We’ve had some bad results and performances, but it still felt the players believed in what they were doing. Today is different. That belief appears to have gone. 4 wins in 16 is distinctly lower-/mid-table. No back to back wins. Even amid some decent performances, results are all that count and in my mind LM is not delivering in that respect. i know the argument with BT/JL is there’s a risk they’ll recruit another Manning-type or worse. But, based on the broken clock principle, I’m now ready to risk it. I still don’t actually believe they would pull the trigger ATM, but it would be worth seeing them going into all kinds of contortions to justify their decision to hire and then fire LM. (And it’s not personal-LM has had a nightmare of a time personally. I just think he’s not the right person to manage our club). Quote
east sussex red Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Fuber said: Anyone take Cooper? Actual track record. Practical. Yes Quote
RollsRoyce Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 minute ago, CityGill said: Here is the problem: Tinnion won’t sack his appointment, Lansdown Jr won’t sack his friend, Lansdown Sr won’t sack his son. This club is passive, without personality and boring to its core. I feel so sorry for the fans, because if we appointed a new manager, it would just be another person in the same mould. I feel sorry to the players, because I wouldn’t just want to be “coached” I’d want to be led and inspired. The fans have never turned on Steve L. That will be the only way he either puts in place people to run the club properly or he sells. Until then, it is more of the same amateur crap we have had through his tenure. it is his club, his money, his toy. The fans are being held to ransom 2 Quote
Shauntaylor85 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Sack them all. No faith in these people running our club, JL is not a chairman, Tinnion is not a Tech Director and Manning is certainly not a championship level Head Coach, if I was SL I would be fuming after backing them in the summer. What a load of dross! 4 Quote
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