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Absolutely agree about Tinnion, find it staggering he was ever allowed back to a position of influence after the dogs dinner he made of management. 

But Manning also has to go. That today was total crap & not for the first time recently. 

Hopelessly out of his depth. 

 

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I don’t disagree in the slightest, we all know Liam Manning isn’t the biggest issue stopping this club from progressing, or maybe, one day, as mental as this sounds, actually achieving something?!

But.. as someone who in the short term would just like to watch a team that occasionally does something exciting, occasionally does something entertaining.. I would like the manager to be removed. His joyless, passion killing football is torture. A team ends up the image of their manager, and Jesus Christ our team resembles that boring drone perfectly.

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Much as you know I agree @GrahamC that Tinnion is a total fraud, what can’t and shouldn’t happen is conflating just how out of his depth Liam seems to be with Tinnion. In short, Brian can’t be an excuse to keep Liam - which is the bizarre argument some are making.

As I said the other day, it isn’t Tinnion who’s refusing to use the academy. It isn’t Tinnion who is tactically outwitted in game. It isn’t Tinnion who is serving up turgid uninspiring football. And it isn’t Tinnion who insisted on “Twiney” and shoehorns him into the side at the teams detriment.

Has it been a bloody awful appointment when you consider funds, ethos etc? Yep, and that is on Tinnion and he needs to go. But you don’t keep someone in post who is equally as culpable for what we’re seeing.

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13 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Seeing as the Lansdowns won’t sack themselves, this is where we need to start.

Absolute bluffer who would never be employed by anyone else.

Get out.

Whilst I agree, it won’t happen.

Best case scenario we can hope for, is LM gets sacked and a proper manager is brought in. Manager gets decent results and makes the case for BT’s role to be made redundant/absorbed into the manager’s role.

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Apologies for repeating what I posted in the MDT, but this makes me so ******* angry! 48 years watching City home and away, we are miles away from any sort of progression. I'm not smart enough to spout tactics, formations or suggest replacements, I just buy my season ticket every year and hope / expect those in a position of trust to do their ******* job.

My boss would be pulling me in on Monday morning if I performed like that in my job. Absolutely no chance of that happening at City though is there...

I'm absolutely ******* fuming. Pathetic and embarrassing...

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Tinion is an absolute fraud and shouldn't be anywhere near the rank he currently holds the bloke can barely speak,  but with the lansdowns in charge there is absolutely no way tinion is going anywhere! Tinion will be throwing manning under the bus as we speak to save his own skin just like he did with nige.

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Forget Manning or Tinnion out, both out!

Manning is not the man for the job, and as the person responsible for ensuring that the right coach is employed and we have a strong squad, Tinnion is also markedly underperforming in his role.

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I don't think the owners have the ambition or enough interest to bother doing anything about this.

If only someone would buy them out and come through the club like a breath of fresh air and make the needed changes.

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5 minutes ago, BCFC31 said:

Tinion is an absolute fraud and shouldn't be anywhere near the rank he currently holds the bloke can barely speak,  but with the lansdowns in charge there is absolutely no way tinion is going anywhere! Tinion will be throwing manning under the bus as we speak to save his own skin just like he did with nige.

Exactly how I see it.

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23 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Seeing as the Lansdowns won’t sack themselves, this is where we need to start.

Absolute bluffer who would never be employed by anyone else.

Get out.

Take Gillespie with him 

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1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said:

Much as you know I agree @GrahamC that Tinnion is a total fraud, what can’t and shouldn’t happen is conflating just how out of his depth Liam seems to be with Tinnion. In short, Brian can’t be an excuse to keep Liam - which is the bizarre argument some are making.

As I said the other day, it isn’t Tinnion who’s refusing to use the academy. It isn’t Tinnion who is tactically outwitted in game. It isn’t Tinnion who is serving up turgid uninspiring football. And it isn’t Tinnion who insisted on “Twiney” and shoehorns him into the side at the teams detriment.

Has it been a bloody awful appointment when you consider funds, ethos etc? Yep, and that is on Tinnion and he needs to go. But you don’t keep someone in post who is equally as culpable for what we’re seeing.

To paraphrase “don’t let the perfect be enemy of the good”, yes to both in an ideal world, but let’s start with what’s achievable. Replacing Manning would relatively straightforward and would be a nail in Tinnion’s coffin imo..

If the next appointment sucks, even J “nice but dim” L would cotton on that maybe it’s not (only) the manager where the problems lie. Of course, if JL ever attains that place of perfect self-awareness and realizes he’s actually the problem, then we might at long last be on the right path.

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3 minutes ago, Gazred said:

I don't think the owners have the ambition or enough interest to bother doing anything about this.

If only someone would buy them out and come through the club like a breath of fresh air and make the needed changes.

Price it right and we will have new owners, and high quality too. 

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4 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

Price it right and we will have new owners, and high quality too. 

The fact that SL has a secured £90mish debt at time of last Accounts secured over AG etc means that he is surely asking for way too much.

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13 minutes ago, Lack of Action Man said:

Whilst I agree, it won’t happen.

Best case scenario we can hope for, is LM gets sacked and a proper manager is brought in. Manager gets decent results and makes the case for BT’s role to be made redundant/absorbed into the manager’s role.

No chance.

We sack Manning & start to pick up better results Tinnion will be telling Crayon Boy it is all down to him & the fool will believe him.

Tinnion is fireproof under the Lansdowns but a huge part of the problem.

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1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

No chance.

We sack Manning & start to pick up better results Tinnion will be telling Crayon Boy it is all down to him & the fool will believe him.

Tinnion is fireproof under the Lansdowns but a huge part of the problem.

I see your point, how do you think a situation could arise where BT is given his marching orders? 
 

My feeling is that it needs an experienced manager to come in and point out the bullshit. However, you could argue we had that with NP and BT managed to survive. 
 

SL and JL do not like having their failures and inadequacies pointed out…

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21 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

What did he say in March, +10 Points better off?

I've queried this politely but forcefully with him on Twitter wonder if he will clarify...

He’ll block you, as he did me when I dared politely criticise him.

As for the OP, both need to go, and now.

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2 minutes ago, Lack of Action Man said:

I see your point, how do you think a situation could arise where BT is given his marching orders? 
 

My feeling is that it needs an experienced manager to come in and point out the bullshit. However, you could argue we had that with NP and BT managed to survive. 
 

SL and JL do not like having their failures and inadequacies pointed out…

When the Lansdowns sell the club, no other scenario.

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22 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Much as you know I agree @GrahamC that Tinnion is a total fraud, what can’t and shouldn’t happen is conflating just how out of his depth Liam seems to be with Tinnion. In short, Brian can’t be an excuse to keep Liam - which is the bizarre argument some are making.

As I said the other day, it isn’t Tinnion who’s refusing to use the academy. It isn’t Tinnion who is tactically outwitted in game. It isn’t Tinnion who is serving up turgid uninspiring football. And it isn’t Tinnion who insisted on “Twiney” and shoehorns him into the side at the teams detriment.

Has it been a bloody awful appointment when you consider funds, ethos etc? Yep, and that is on Tinnion and he needs to go. But you don’t keep someone in post who is equally as culpable for what we’re seeing.

I agree. Much as Tinnion, Lansdowns et Al are a problem, I am only seeing a coaching mess. The players on the pitch today are better than what we saw. 

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3 minutes ago, Lack of Action Man said:

I see your point, how do you think a situation could arise where BT is given his marching orders? 
 

My feeling is that it needs an experienced manager to come in and point out the bullshit. However, you could argue we had that with NP and BT managed to survive. 
 

SL and JL do not like having their failures and inadequacies pointed out…

Just a polite reshuffling is all it’d take. Maybe lean him back to a more academy role and bring in someone who’s more suited to the director of football role. Who can then restructure the footballing side. You don’t have to fire him at least not right away.

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Had an interesting snippet from a mate earlier. 
He said, the only time in the last 40 years this club has ever looked like being remotely successful at this level is when it hasn’t had Brian Tinnion as an employee. 
2 years prior to his arrival, we went to the last day of the season with a chance of a playoff spot (we’re talking champ level here, not L1). 
Then he arrived in 1992 and left in 2007. We achieved the square root of bugger all in those 15 years (again, at champ level). 
After he’d left, we then had a champ playoff and 3 consecutive top 10 champ level finishes. 
Then he returned in 2012 and we’ve once again not done anything remotely successful at this level. 
 

I found it quite interesting anyway 😁

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5 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said:

He’ll block you, as he did me when I dared politely criticise him.

As for the OP, both need to go, and now.

I await with interest but it was a good question I thought.. but yes I'll wear being blocked by him as a Badge of Honour. 😆

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2 minutes ago, MythikRobins said:

Just a polite reshuffling is all it’d take. Maybe lean him back to a more academy role and bring in someone who’s more suited to the director of football role. Who can then restructure the footballing side. You don’t have to fire him at least not right away.

No - he needs to go full stop. You cut a cancer out entirely. There is no evidence he was fantastic at the academy role - many put the successes down to Probert and you don’t hear of those who have moved on and succeeded thanking him. Fudging the decision by shifting him just allows him to spread his poison again when he feels enough time has elapsed.

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Just now, Silvio Dante said:

No - he needs to go full stop. You cut a cancer out entirely. There is no evidence he was fantastic at the academy role - many put the successes down to Probert and you don’t hear of those who have moved on and succeeded thanking him. Fudging the decision by shifting him just allows him to spread his poison again when he feels enough time has elapsed.

I totally agree. Don’t we all wish that’s what would happen. 

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Whilst we are talking change, Gillespie cannot be kept on. He has been the core of our recruitment, and as mate of Jon nL, here because of the Lansdown croneysism regime. We need to hire much better in all of these roles.  

18 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

The fact that SL has a secured £90mish debt at time of last Accounts secured over AG etc means that he is surely asking for way too much.

Yes he want you to pay for the stand he named after himself 

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3 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

Yes he want you to pay for the stand he named after himself 

I reckon it is £90m and the rest.

There is something vs the Training Ground too in August 2024, maybe Post Balance Sheet Events will show but nothing possible to even look into without Accounts for last season.

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In my opinion, the new AG stadium has become a bit of a white elephant to City fans. Nice modern stadium (albeit like a library) with a crap style/football team playing on it which no one likes. Non football fans fall for the stadium and just tolerate the dross on the pitch every home game.

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Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

I reckon it is £90m and the rest.

There is something vs the Training Ground too in August 2024, maybe Post Balance Sheet Events will show but nothing possible to even look into without Accounts for last season.

This is the core issue. Champ clubs can and have been purchased for 40-60 M with ground/training ground. Look at Sheffield Ute now, parachute payments, prime position to go up, 100m . He is asking far too much money, made worse by the ludicrous development of AG that has left it land locked for expansion , despite owning the land behind the Lansdown. It could have been rebuilt in a very different way. The current AG is not a Premier sized ground. 

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2 minutes ago, RollsRoyce said:

This is the core issue. Champ clubs can and have been purchased for 40-60 M with ground/training ground. Look at Sheffield Ute now, parachute payments, prime position to go up, 100m . He is asking far too much money, made worse by the ludicrous development of AG that has left it land locked for expansion , despite owning the land behind the Lansdown. It could have been rebuilt in a very different way. The current AG is not a Premier sized ground. 

I mostly agree although I'm struggling to see the issues with the development. Agree on the rest, the other bit isn't my area of expertise.

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45 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Much as you know I agree @GrahamC that Tinnion is a total fraud, what can’t and shouldn’t happen is conflating just how out of his depth Liam seems to be with Tinnion. In short, Brian can’t be an excuse to keep Liam - which is the bizarre argument some are making.

As I said the other day, it isn’t Tinnion who’s refusing to use the academy. It isn’t Tinnion who is tactically outwitted in game. It isn’t Tinnion who is serving up turgid uninspiring football. And it isn’t Tinnion who insisted on “Twiney” and shoehorns him into the side at the teams detriment.

Has it been a bloody awful appointment when you consider funds, ethos etc? Yep, and that is on Tinnion and he needs to go. But you don’t keep someone in post who is equally as culpable for what we’re seeing.

True, but starting with Tinnion is a start. 

No point of a new manager if he has to answer in anyway to Tinnion. Plus, if he doesn't like the new bloke, you'd bet your ass he'll be tongue wagging to our naive owner to get him the sack. 

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How can a billionaire go from Pearson, Alexander, Rennie etc to this set up. It needed the recruitment team being updated. Imagine Newman replacing Tinnion for example ? 

Pearson, Alexander, Rennie, Newman , and you don't think that team would not get you closer to the Premier? 

Effin bonkers 

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1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I mostly agree although I'm struggling to see the issues with the development. Agree on the rest, the other bit isn't my area of expertise.

How are you building a 40 k stadium on the current site?  You could have rotated the ground when rebuilding , so easy to then build a Prem ground. 

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Just now, RollsRoyce said:

How are you building a 40 k stadium on the current site?  You could have rotated the ground when rebuilding , so easy to then build a Prem ground. 

We needed something due to the Ashton Vale debacle, I dunno..We needed it quicker given our Revenue Streams were not fit for purpose st this level..What kinda compromises on the rebuild required?

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34 minutes ago, Atticus said:

True, but starting with Tinnion is a start. 

No point of a new manager if he has to answer in anyway to Tinnion. Plus, if he doesn't like the new bloke, you'd bet your ass he'll be tongue wagging to our naive owner to get him the sack. 

I am uncomfortable with all the vitriol aimed at BT myself. I don't know exactly what his personal contribution was to the Academy and recruiting/developing the likes of Semenyo. However, he appeared to be part of a very successful set up there.

If the Lansdowns are weak enough to be swayed by his opinions on the head coach/manager that is down to them more than him imo. If you have an employee who is good at his job but a bit of a **** then slap him down, put boundaries around his role that limit him to what he's good at. No need to sack him. It's their inadequacies that are the root of the problems.

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13 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

I am uncomfortable with all the vitriol aimed at BT myself. I don't know exactly what his personal contribution was to the Academy and recruiting/developing the likes of Semenyo. However, he appeared to be part of a very successful set up there.

 

Him & Scott were recommended to the club, not ‘found’ by him. 
 

Gary Probert was the huge driver of academy success at the time before that, when Tinns was ‘loans manager’. 
 

The optics that Tinnion was some godfather, father like figure to all the academy lads & he’s a huge part of their development, before being made DoF (essentially), are wide of the mark imo. 

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Just now, petehinton said:

Him & Scott were recommended to the club, not ‘found’ by him. 
 

Gary Probert was the huge driver of academy success at the time before that, when Tinns was ‘loans manager’. 
 

The optics that Tinnion was some godfather, father like figure to all the academy lads & he’s a huge part of their development, before being made DoF (essentially), are wide of the mark imo. 

Exactly. Tinnion didn’t play a big part in the academy nor was he a key part in the academy success in recent years.

Get him out the f****** club asap. The man is a disease.

 

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1 minute ago, petehinton said:

Him & Scott were recommended to the club, not ‘found’ by him. 
 

Gary Probert was the huge driver of academy success at the time before that, when Tinns was ‘loans manager’. 
 

The optics that Tinnion was some godfather, father like figure to all the academy lads & he’s a huge part of their development, before being made DoF (essentially), are wide of the mark imo. 

Thanks for the insight. As I said, I don't really know the extent of Tinnion's input. Loans were no doubt part of Semenyo's development though. Most things are a team effort and I would imagine Brian deserves some credit, if not the amount he appears to claim.

The Lansdowns are the ones choosing to promote him above his competence level so I blame them, not him for that.

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Didn't JL or SL say that Manning has the final say on signings? 

This makes me think Manning will likely get the boot first. Although totally agree that Tinnion isn't up to it.

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1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Guy on Radio Bristol is giving it some!

 Punch You Oh No GIF by GritTV

For everything that he has (under)achieved so far, Tinnion deserves a good, strong Christmas punch.

Ideally on Boxing Day, if not before.

Hope he has a Hap-P45 Christmas.

 

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2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Seeing as the Lansdowns won’t sack themselves, this is where we need to start.

Absolute bluffer who would never be employed by anyone else.

Get out.

I've got news for you.

They won't sack Tinnion either.

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2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Seeing as the Lansdowns won’t sack themselves, this is where we need to start.

Absolute bluffer who would never be employed by anyone else.

Get out.

Couldn't agree more, started a similar thread last week!

Get the clown out NOW!!

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2 hours ago, Lack of Action Man said:

Whilst I agree, it won’t happen.

Best case scenario we can hope for, is LM gets sacked and a proper manager is brought in. Manager gets decent results and makes the case for BT’s role to be made redundant/absorbed into the manager’s role.

Will never happen, while this lot is charge.

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I note a thread entitled time for Manning to go, with responses saying he’s not going while Tinnion is there. 
 

Myself I’m not sure that’s true!

Mr Tinnion is a self preservationist and will cut Mr Manning loose if he thinks his position is in jeopardy, perhaps that’s not so far off !

However since we lost Gould and then Alexander and put Mr Tinnion in charge of pretty much everything we have fired Mr Pearson sent a load of the kids we had coming through on loan told the supporters we should be challenging for top six, spent a wedge load of money mainly very badly and have regressed to such a point that we all watched that today. WTF that was I don’t know….Does anyone?

This club is where it is right now. We are not making progress and have one win in seven. ONE WIN IN SEVEN!

Now is the time for Jon Lansdown to grow a pair and get rid of the guy and bring in a proper man at the top! 
 

There are quite a few to choose from Jon needs good advice! From anywhere. 
 


 


 

 

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4 hours ago, BS3City said:

Apologies for repeating what I posted in the MDT, but this makes me so ******* angry! 48 years watching City home and away, we are miles away from any sort of progression. I'm not smart enough to spout tactics, formations or suggest replacements, I just buy my season ticket every year and hope / expect those in a position of trust to do their ******* job.

My boss would be pulling me in on Monday morning if I performed like that in my job. Absolutely no chance of that happening at City though is there...

I'm absolutely ******* fuming. Pathetic and embarrassing...

100% with you 

3 hours ago, CyderInACan said:

MANNING OUT 

TINNION OUT 

Lansdown out! 

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What we all gonna do then? Seen this sort of post so many times before yet our fanbase show no sign of discontent on match days to show their frustrations to the people running this shower! No disrespect but our fanbase has gone soft over the years and The Lansdowns know there will be no backlash

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4 minutes ago, BS3 Ark at Ee said:

What we all gonna do then? Seen this sort of post so many times before yet our fanbase show no sign of discontent on match days to show their frustrations to the people running this shower! No disrespect but our fanbase has gone soft over the years and The Lansdowns know there will be no backlash

Exactly. Studies show that the average IQ of the most vociferous fans (Section 82) is around 65, and they’ve unfortunately been swayed to the regime by the promise of some flags with some ingrained glitter. 
 

 

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8 minutes ago, BS3 Ark at Ee said:

What we all gonna do then? Seen this sort of post so many times before yet our fanbase show no sign of discontent on match days to show their frustrations to the people running this shower! No disrespect but our fanbase has gone soft over the years and The Lansdowns know there will be no backlash

Nothing really. Not much we can do about it. We’ll never ever reach the levels of protest required to force widescale change unless we somehow fall down to League 2. Simply all they have to do if things get really bad is sack Manning, hire someone mildly interesting, rinse repeat.

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12 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Exactly. Studies show that the average IQ of the most vociferous fans (Section 82) is around 65, and they’ve unfortunately been swayed to the regime by the promise of some flags with some ingrained glitter. 
 

 

Totally agree, but even Section 82 must be flagging by now.

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15 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Exactly. Studies show that the average IQ of the most vociferous fans (Section 82) is around 65, and they’ve unfortunately been swayed to the regime by the promise of some flags with some ingrained glitter. 
 

 

A "singing section" (FFS), is a symptom of everything that's shite about this club now.

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1 minute ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

A "singing section" (FFS), is a symptom of everything that's shite about this club now.

I’ve thought that for years. 
 

Every club has support behind the goal and most to try and shift visiting support to the corners. 
 

Oh no not us! 
 

Singing section sounds like the carolers that some bloke heard at an old peoples home on an earlier thread. 

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1 minute ago, REDOXO said:

I’ve thought that for years. 
 

Every club has support behind the goal and most to try and shift visiting support to the corners. 
 

Oh no not us! 
 

Singing section sounds like the carolers that some bloke heard at an old peoples home on an earlier thread. 

I hope you'll nice and vocal on boxing day to show them just how to create a proper atmosphere :) 

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8 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

A "singing section" (FFS), is a symptom of everything that's shite about this club now.

It's kinda a symptom of Modern Football in this country but God do make it difficult for ourselves as a Club to generate an atmosphere.

I refuse to call it a Singing Section, I call it a Safe Standing Area.

4 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

I’ve thought that for years. 
 

Every club has support behind the goal and most to try and shift visiting support to the corners. 
 

Oh no not us! 
 

Singing section sounds like the carolers that some bloke heard at an old peoples home on an earlier thread. 

Yep agreed. Albeit watching the Stream yesterday I see out a were behind the goal at WBA but separated onky by a line of drawers or 2 so were WBA fans.

We give Away Fans up to 3.4k tickets and more Away fans will stand but have 1.4kish of our most vocal in a corner?? It's brainless.

They do a decent job in spite of the limitations but my God the limitations.

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