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Seen a few speculating that he will be gone in January. From what some have said looked disinterested on the bench and warm ups yesterday. It clearly isn’t working for either party. Personally would like to see us go in for Kone or Al Hamadi on loan from Ipswich who according to Ipswich fans I know is apparently available. 

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One thing what would attract a loan striker is there guaranteed minutes here in the 2nd half of season where most clubs above us already have a striker 

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If he joins Cornick through the out door I would expect Seb Palmer-Houlden to be recalled rather than another striker signed.

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6 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Seen a few speculating that he will be gone in January. From what some have said looked disinterested on the bench and warm ups yesterday. It clearly isn’t working for either party. Personally would like to see us go in for Kone or Al Hamadi on loan from Ipswich who according to Ipswich fans I know is apparently available. 

Would rather louie barry on loan from villa

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1 minute ago, MythikRobins said:

I hope so for his sake. Reading what people have written here, you don’t need to be a psychologist to realise he’s not having a good time here mentally. 

Think he's been poorly managed 

12 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

If he joins Cornick through the out door I would expect Seb Palmer-Houlden to be recalled rather than another striker signed.

Now that would show a real statement of intent 🤣

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30 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Seen a few speculating that he will be gone in January. From what some have said looked disinterested on the bench and warm ups yesterday. It clearly isn’t working for either party. Personally would like to see us go in for Kone or Al Hamadi on loan from Ipswich who according to Ipswich fans I know is apparently available. 

When you’d rather bring a winger on at striker 3-0 up no wonder he’d look fed up, think this was a perfect opportunity for him to grab himself a goal for confidence like we seen with Armstrong. I’d loan him out as there seems to be a player there but confidence is clearly shot. I’d also want to keep SPH at Dundee, so we could look at Al Hamadi as mentioned or maybe Jayden Danns on loan from Liverpool?

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11 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

When you’d rather bring a winger on at striker 3-0 up no wonder he’d look fed up, think this was a perfect opportunity for him to grab himself a goal for confidence like we seen with Armstrong. I’d loan him out as there seems to be a player there but confidence is clearly shot. I’d also want to keep SPH at Dundee, so we could look at Al Hamadi as mentioned or maybe Jayden Danns on loan from Liverpool?

I haven’t even seen a player giving it the lot let alone a player in there. I think he pretty much cooked his goose the other day, might be wrong. Can’t really bag Liam on that either, there’s minimum expectations and he didn’t meet them.

What I’m seeing is delusion on Gas levels currently because many want him to be good. Hope I’m wrong on that but I’m not sure we’ll find out as it stands.

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Looks to me from the little I’ve seen of him that he needs someone up top with him.

If he is sold on then Tinnion needs to do his homework and get someone in who can play as a lone striker as even when we are losing it’s very rare when we go two up top.

From what I’ve seen during Mannings era is he isn’t very good at improving players which I thought was the main reason for bringing him in and not a manager.

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40 minutes ago, Tecknical Director said:

This is interesting. What makes you think that? 

I would ask the same tbh. Sam Bell isn’t a natural number 9 but he does come on and run around and get  into decent areas. That’s the least you can do whatever the management you’ve had. We still carried a threat when he replaced Wells yesterday, all you can ask for. If Mayulu is sulking due to a perceived poor management then that’s no good to us right now.

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£2.5m and on a 4 year deal , how do we just get rid without losing a massive amount of money and with making the recruitment looking ridiculous ?  No one in charge is going to want either to happen . 

More likely he stays and they try and get a tune out of him.

I don't even expect a loan coming in , I just think we will get excuses and BS.

 

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2 hours ago, pillred said:

More likely we'd get Cathy Barry :laugh:.

Great ball control and can trap 2 balls at once....................😅.

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1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

I would ask the same tbh. Sam Bell isn’t a natural number 9 but he does come on and run around and get  into decent areas. That’s the least you can do whatever the management you’ve had. We still carried a threat when he replaced Wells yesterday, all you can ask for. If Mayulu is sulking due to a perceived poor management then that’s no good to us right now.

Exactly what LM implied when he took Mayulu off at HT against Luton. 

LM said...quote..."I thought what we ultimately needed was more tactical than anything else. We needed somebody to stretch their backline and run in behind and Belly's really good at it".

It would be good to know what Mayulu was actually brought in to do. 

BT said he 'fitted exactly the profile we were looking for'. 

Exactly what is that?

He also said we'd watched him over 30 times. 

He only played in 15 games last season. Many of which he didn't start. 

His stats for that season...well...nothing to shout home about. 

https://fbref.com/en/players/c7ad19f8/matchlogs/2023-2024/Fally-Mayulu-Match-Logs

 

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1 hour ago, Red Army 79 said:

Looks to me from the little I’ve seen of him that he needs someone up top with him.

If he is sold on then Tinnion needs to do his homework and get someone in who can play as a lone striker as even when we are losing it’s very rare when we go two up top.

From what I’ve seen during Mannings era is he isn’t very good at improving players which I thought was the main reason for bringing him in and not a manager.

He’s doing a good job with Mehmeti 

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2 hours ago, Tecknical Director said:

This is interesting. What makes you think that? 

Well, Brian, you signed him so why don’t you tell us? 

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13 minutes ago, tin said:

Well, Brian, you signed him so why don’t you tell us? 

Jokes getting a bit boring now. It’s been done to death. I’m actually a women too, which is funny as people have assumed I’m a man which is random. 

 

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3 hours ago, MythikRobins said:

I hope so for his sake. Reading what people have written here, you don’t need to be a psychologist to realise he’s not having a good time here mentally. 

Yes poor bloke he must be on £5k a week for pretending to be a footballer

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32 minutes ago, Topper 123 said:

He’s doing a good job with Mehmeti 

Is he though?

If Mehmeti starts and we are losing it is likely that he will be the one subbed however well he is playing. If he scores the next game he isn’t guaranteed to start. Where other players start or stay on however well they are playing. It’s not just Mehmeti he seems to do the same to Yu and his confidence looks shot in my opinion. Man-management doesn't seem to be one of Mannings strong points.

Mehmeti is our top goal scorer he has earned the right to be one of the first names on the team sheet.

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1 hour ago, Red Army 79 said:

Looks to me from the little I’ve seen of him that he needs someone up top with him.

If he is sold on then Tinnion needs to do his homework and get someone in who can play as a lone striker as even when we are losing it’s very rare when we go two up top.

From what I’ve seen during Mannings era is he isn’t very good at improving players which I thought was the main reason for bringing him in and not a manager.

**** the homework, Tinnion should be put in detention and made to write I SHALL NOT IMPERSONATE A TECHNICAL DIRECTOR, then a swift hobnail boot drop kick out of the club. For me there is no way they will sell him in Jan, the other club will just pull our pants down with a derisory bid.

My guess would be a loan move to Europe, most probably his native France or Germany. Don't see it being a League 1 club, mentally the english league experience has scarred him (partly his own making I might add) and so he'll want a reset culturally.

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46 minutes ago, Topper 123 said:

He’s doing a good job with Mehmeti 

Not being funny but I'd love to know what you see different in his game that LM may have had a hand in..

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3 hours ago, pillred said:

More likely we'd get Cathy Barry :laugh:.

I know it's said by some that BT likes to make a right tit if himself, but blimey o'reilly, that would be taking it to another level.

Please keep me abreast of the situation.

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It’s a shame considering how his first couple of games went. I’m sure manning said a couple of weeks ago he is going to be a big player for us in future and I’m not sure how accurate the “He was scouted over 40 times” is but we have either messed this one up big time or he is struggling to adapt which seems more likely to me. 

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It would be interesting to know whether Mayulu prior to coming here ever played as the one up front or was used to playing in a two? Was he another one 'at the right price ' that they thought they could be made to play in a different set up? 

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3 hours ago, Tecknical Director said:

This is interesting. What makes you think that? 

Nothing really makes him think it - it's just a great opportunity to try & blame LM for something whilst results are going OK. 

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4 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Seen a few speculating that he will be gone in January. From what some have said looked disinterested on the bench and warm ups yesterday. It clearly isn’t working for either party. Personally would like to see us go in for Kone or Al Hamadi on loan from Ipswich who according to Ipswich fans I know is apparently available. 

I said about a loan 2-3 months ago. Clearly not settled and maybe the league is harder than he thought once that's in his head it would be hard to lose. I did browse his Instagram yesterday and there's a pic of him celebrating with a couple of guys, possibly dad and brother? He's probably on his own here and going by the past we probably stuck him in a hotel all alone. 

As someone else said I think we'll see SPH back , who I do like and think he'd be decent for an option off the bench then plan for the summer. Kone would be good but again it's a risk. 

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1 hour ago, Topper 123 said:

He’s doing a good job with Mehmeti 

No mehmeti has adjusted to the championship he's already got the qualities but if manning had improved him then he still wouldn't be doing the inconsistent things. 

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1 hour ago, spudski said:

Exactly what LM implied when he took Mayulu off at HT against Luton. 

LM said...quote..."I thought what we ultimately needed was more tactical than anything else. We needed somebody to stretch their backline and run in behind and Belly's really good at it".

It would be good to know what Mayulu was actually brought in to do. 

BT said he 'fitted exactly the profile we were looking for'. 

Exactly what is that?

He also said we'd watched him over 30 times. 

He only played in 15 games last season. Many of which he didn't start. 

His stats for that season...well...nothing to shout home about. 

https://fbref.com/en/players/c7ad19f8/matchlogs/2023-2024/Fally-Mayulu-Match-Logs

 

Yeah I did mention this elsewhere on here a while back that I found it amazing that we’d watched him 40 times when he hadn’t even played a total of 40 games in his career 🤣🤣

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1 hour ago, Tecknical Director said:

Jokes getting a bit boring now. It’s been done to death. I’m actually a women too, which is funny as people have assumed I’m a man which is random. 

 

That reminds me ironically of the “Life of Brian” sketch where the women pretend to be men at the stoning! 😂😂😂

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9 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

Surely you've had a video where you've watched your fave bit over & again @Harry ??

To be honest I never liked Cathy, always thought she was a bit too big-boned and quite frankly, somewhat ugly. 
Her little blonde mate was nice though (can’t remember her name). I saw her in Brasserie Pierre’s many years ago and tried to chat her up. 
The rather burley bloke with her didn’t really like it too much and suffice to say, I didn’t get anywhere!! 🙁

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2 minutes ago, Harry said:

To be honest I never liked Cathy, always thought she was a bit too big-boned and quite frankly, somewhat ugly. 
Her little blonde mate was nice though (can’t remember her name). I saw her in Brasserie Pierre’s many years ago and tried to chat her up. 
The rather burley bloke with her didn’t really like it too much and suffice to say, I didn’t get anywhere!! 🙁

Bigger boned than you Harry is the rumour!

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4 hours ago, Tecknical Director said:

This is interesting. What makes you think that? 

Started the season well and appeared the more natural of the two summer signings for the no.9 spot but (oddly) was dropped in favour of Armstrong for the subequent games. 

After that, very limited game time and no continuity, mainly limited to substitute appearances (on 60 mins).

Being pulled at half-time - probably destroying any confidence he had left. He wasn't the problem v Luton, and withdrawing him wasn't the reason we won. 

Playing in a system that doesn't suit him. If you bought him as our main striker (giving him the number 9 shirt implies that was the intention) then surely adapt to get the best out of him.  Our main striker is starved of service in most games.

I happen to think he's technically very good. From what I've seen he retains the ball well and uses it effectively. And he appears to have a brain.  Just don't think he's either been used effecttively nor been given sufficient game time. 

This is just my view of course and, from what I've seen, doesn't appear to be the majority view, but I'm willing to stick by it.

 

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3 hours ago, Topper 123 said:

He’s doing a good job with Mehmeti 

Agreed, you can’t cherry pick to suit. Pring is also getting back to his levels. On the flip side he needs to get a lot more out of Armstrong over the coming 6-12 months though.

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1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

Agreed, you can’t cherry pick to suit. Pring is also getting back to his levels. On the flip side he needs to get a lot more out of Armstrong over the coming 6-12 months though.

I’d cut my losses with both of the new strikers - neither will make it here as neither are anywhere near the required level. 

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Just now, Rob k said:

I’d cut my losses with both of the new strikers - neither will make it here as neither are anywhere near the required level. 

If they're as poor as you say, who takes them and just how big a hit, all of which feeds into FFP can we take.

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1 minute ago, Rob k said:

I’d cut my losses with both of the new strikers - neither will make it here as neither are anywhere near the required level. 

I’d keep Sinclair given his age. He can be third choice striker as it stands and it’s on the coaches to get more out of him and then the lad himself to show at some point up the line whether he can do it on a Matchday. Giving up on everyone is a cop out and not what we pay Liam to be head coach for.

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4 minutes ago, JAWS said:

Started the season well and appeared the more natural of the two summer signings for the no.9 spot but (oddly) was dropped in favour of Armstrong for the subequent games. 

After that, very limited game time and no continuity, mainly limited to substitute appearances (on 60 mins).

Being pulled at half-time - probably destroying any confidence he had left. He wasn't the problem v Luton, and withdrawing him wasn't the reason we won. 

Playing in a system that doesn't suit him. If you bought him as our main striker (giving him the number 9 shirt implies that was the intention) then surely adapt to get the best out of him.  Our main striker is starved of service in most games.

I happen to think he's technically very good. From what I've seen he retains the ball well and uses it effectively. And he appears to have a brain.  Just don't think he's either been used effecttively nor been given sufficient game time. 

This is just my view of course and, from what I've seen, doesn't appear to be the majority view, but I'm willing to stick by it.

 

You’re entitled to your view mate. The fact of the matter is, we won’t know what’s right. 

For what it’s worth, I get the feeling we’ve got another Diony situation. I don’t mean as in playing ability, but I think he’s having either a really hard time settling, something has happened personally, or he isn’t reacting well to training and being dropped. Who knows I guess.

I hope he’s willing to get his head down, as there is a player in him I’m sure of that. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I’d keep Sinclair given his age. He can be third choice striker as it stands and it’s on the coaches to get more out of him and then the lad himself to show at some point up the line whether he can do it on a Matchday. Giving up on everyone is a cop out and not what we pay Liam to be head coach for.

I'm not totally against keeping Armstrong tbh, 3 Goals, 1 Assist and 1 Penalty as well as the obvious physicality (on paper) is something to work with.

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Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

I'm not totally against keeping Armstrong tbh, 3 Goals, 1 Assist and 1 Penalty as well as the obvious physicality (on paper) is something to work with.

Exactly. Put the work in and see what happens before you just give up after laying out £2m.

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Whenever I've seen him play he seems to get near-zero service.  Wherever thats down to our midfield or Fallys poor positioning im not entirely sure.

I think I would like to wait a bit longer before writing him off completely as I have seen that he's technically good with the ball at his feet, very decent close control. He hasn't really had much chance to actually kick the ball at the goal yet!

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15 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I’d keep Sinclair given his age. He can be third choice striker as it stands and it’s on the coaches to get more out of him and then the lad himself to show at some point up the line whether he can do it on a Matchday. Giving up on everyone is a cop out and not what we pay Liam to be head coach for.

It’s not a cop out if they are clearly shite and should never hand been Signed, you could try and coach me all you like and i won’t ever be good enough to be a championship striker either. However, that’s just my opinion 

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1 hour ago, Harry said:

To be honest I never liked Cathy, always thought she was a bit too big-boned and quite frankly, somewhat ugly. 
Her little blonde mate was nice though (can’t remember her name). I saw her in Brasserie Pierre’s many years ago and tried to chat her up. 
The rather burley bloke with her didn’t really like it too much and suffice to say, I didn’t get anywhere!! 🙁

Michelle Thorne.

 

Cathy Barry lived on the aptly named 'Cock Road' 

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1 minute ago, Tecknical Director said:

You’re entitled to your view mate. The fact of the matter is, we won’t know what’s right. 

For what it’s worth, I get the feeling we’ve got another Diony situation. I don’t mean as in playing ability, but I think he’s having either a really hard time settling, something has happened personally, or he isn’t reacting well to training and being dropped. Who knows I guess.

I hope he’s willing to get his head down, as there is a player in him I’m sure of that. 

 

I don't think pulling him at HT is a good move. It's humiliating for any player (at any level) especially as he hadn't exactly had a shocker. We won that game cos of a bit of quality from Twine. It's not like we created much or supported him in that first half. I would've given him another 10 mins at least. He would've probably checked his run for the one bit of service that was provided (Bell's offside goal).

LM is obvioulsy in a convenient position to say his change worked due to Twine getting him out of jail.

BUT even so, as someone said above or on another thread, LM could've restored some of the lost confidence by bringing him on yesterday for the last 20 when we were creating chances against a very poor & open pompey defence. That to me was poor man management when there was an easy win, low risk option.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Rob k said:

It’s not a cop out if they are clearly shite and should never hand been Signed, you could try and coach me all you like and i won’t ever be good enough to one a championship striker either. However, that’s just my opinion 

With respect there is a big difference between Armstrong, Mayulu and Rob k off the forum. Liam is a head coach so do the coaching. He is part of creating the problem, his job is to work hard and sort it out not lose the club £10m in selling/wage losses and replacements fees/wages. Sounds like Mayulu may be the bigger issue right now and that may require a decision but the principle for me is while they are here, put the work in.

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2 minutes ago, JAWS said:

I don't think pulling him at HT is a good move. It's humiliating for any player (at any level) especially as he hadn't exactly had a shocker. We won that game cos of a bit of quality from Twine. It's not like we created much or supported him in that first half. I would've given him another 10 mins at least. He would've probably checked his run for the one bit of service that was provided (Bell's offside goal).

LM is obvioulsy in a convenient position to say his change worked due to Twine getting him out of jail.

BUT even so, as someone said above or on another thread, LM could've restored some of the lost confidence by bringing him on yesterday for the last 20 when we were creating chances against a very poor & open pompey defence. That to me was poor man management when there was an easy win, low risk option.

 

 

 

If a player isn’t good enough, they aren’t good enough.

No way if I’m a manager am I bringing on a bloke who I don’t think k is good enough just to be nice to him

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5 minutes ago, JAWS said:

I don't think pulling him at HT is a good move. It's humiliating for any player (at any level) especially as he hadn't exactly had a shocker. We won that game cos of a bit of quality from Twine. It's not like we created much or supported him in that first half. I would've given him another 10 mins at least. He would've probably checked his run for the one bit of service that was provided (Bell's offside goal).

LM is obvioulsy in a convenient position to say his change worked due to Twine getting him out of jail.

BUT even so, as someone said above or on another thread, LM could've restored some of the lost confidence by bringing him on yesterday for the last 20 when we were creating chances against a very poor & open pompey defence. That to me was poor man management when there was an easy win, low risk option.

 

 

 

He could have also brought on Rob Atkinson

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3 minutes ago, JAWS said:

I don't think pulling him at HT is a good move. It's humiliating for any player (at any level) especially as he hadn't exactly had a shocker. We won that game cos of a bit of quality from Twine. It's not like we created much or supported him in that first half. I would've given him another 10 mins at least. He would've probably checked his run for the one bit of service that was provided (Bell's offside goal).

LM is obvioulsy in a convenient position to say his change worked due to Twine getting him out of jail.

BUT even so, as someone said above or on another thread, LM could've restored some of the lost confidence by bringing him on yesterday for the last 20 when we were creating chances against a very poor & open pompey defence. That to me was poor man management when there was an easy win, low risk option.

 

 

 

Sam Bell also needs minutes, came on and looked lively. The Manager has more than one player to look after. The other thing is none of us on here know what is going on behind the scenes. Fally may be unlucky or his attitude might be crap, we don’t know, the latter would make a managers decision for him though.

I think Liams post Luton interview was a nice way of saying “we needed someone up top to move around a bit not stand still”.

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7 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

With respect there is a big difference between Armstrong, Mayulu and Rob k off the forum. Liam is a head coach so do the coaching. He is part of creating the problem, his job is to work hard and sort it out not lose the club £10m in selling/wage losses and replacements fees/wages. Sounds like Mayulu may be the bigger issue right now and that may require a decision but the principle for me is while they are here, put the work in.

Those 2 players will not be good enough, my initial gut feel at Aldershot was that Mayulu looked like a bloke who had never kicked a ball in his life, decent couple of goals and wondered if I’d got it wrong but I’ve seen enough to know already that these 2 won’t be good enough in this side. 

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24 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

If they're as poor as you say, who takes them and just how big a hit, all of which feeds into FFP can we take.

Plus, who will have to answer for the 'hit'?

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1 hour ago, Harry said:

To be honest I never liked Cathy, always thought she was a bit too big-boned and quite frankly, somewhat ugly. 
Her little blonde mate was nice though (can’t remember her name). I saw her in Brasserie Pierre’s many years ago and tried to chat her up. 
The rather burley bloke with her didn’t really like it too much and suffice to say, I didn’t get anywhere!! 🙁

Cathy "'ere, Harry & Delroy, come over yer & both of you stick ur fists up me ass at the same time & I'll down 3 pints of Guiness while you are both inside me...."

Harry "nah, you're alright Cath, you are a little on the curvaceous side for my liking"

Cathy "I can't hear you Harry, I've got cocks in my ears & I can't lip read right now because these other 8 blokes have just spunked in my eye"

Harry "I'm surprised they bothered. You aren't even very pretty" 

 

😜

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As much as I agree with @GrahamC and his sentiment that if Fally goes out we should bring back Seb, I don't think he's going going.  We surely will loan him somewhere, do we loan him to a L1, Scottish or maybe French club? 

I don't know but it needs to be at the right level to bridge the gap between Rapid and the Championship.  When you have a trawl through the opta power rankings we as a team are significantly stronger than Rapid and the Austrian League doesn't feature in the top ranked leagues a week league.  The Gas have a higher opta ranking than rapid so maybe L1 is a good bridging loan for him?

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20 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I'm not totally against keeping Armstrong tbh, 3 Goals, 1 Assist and 1 Penalty as well as the obvious physicality (on paper) is something to work with.

I think SA has given us exactly what we'd have expected of him so far. He's not let himself or any of us down - unlike FM who is a disgrace.

FM gets paid, well,  to do what the vast majority of us would take out a loan to experience once.! 

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10 minutes ago, The Exiled Robin said:

If a player isn’t good enough, they aren’t good enough.

No way if I’m a manager am I bringing on a bloke who I don’t think k is good enough just to be nice to him

In my opinion he was good enough to have stayed on. He hadn't done a lot wrong. Just had sh*t service/support. If we have a lone striker they should be pivotal & get better support. 

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4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I think SA has given us exactly what we'd have expected of him so far. He's not let himself or any of us down - unlike FM who is a disgrace.

FM gets paid, well,  to do what the vast majority of us would take out a loan to experience once.! 

The main reason SA got the stick he did is because he missed a couple of decent one on ones - which ignored the fact he did well to get in those positions in the first place, we certainly haven't seen many players go through on goal one on one like Mehmeti did yesterday.

I've got no problems sticking with SA, but he needs game time. I don't think he's the most natural finisher, but that can be coached. His runs against Millwall, Derby and even Sheff U when he came on were encouraging and with Max deeper we've got a player who can find those runs.

It will all depend on the opposition though, SA will obviously be less effective against a low block.

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