BCFCGav Posted January 4 Posted January 4 A few weeks ago I’d have said put the first team out. But following 10 points from 12 putting us back in the conversation (albeit as outsiders) it might be a good chance to use the squad and keep our best players wrapped in cotton wool, ready for a push for the play-offs. Sticking with a 343/523/3421 (delete as you feel appropriate), we could go something like: Bajic; Vyner, Dickie, Naismith; Tanner, McGuane, Knight, Morrison; Earthy, Yu; Bell. Protection for O’Leary, McNally, McCrorie, Bird, Roberts, Anis, Twine, Wells. Useful minutes for Naismith, Morrison, Earthy, Bell. Still a competitive team but with an eye firmly on our more realistic aim. Others suggestions encouraged ️ 2 Quote
cidercity1987 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Last season's cup game were great but coincided with a sharp drop off in league form , probably due to the fixture congestion. We are in a similar league position now as a year ago and I agree we need to go with a weakened team Quote
sglosbcfc Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Go strong, the squad is now big enough to challenge for automatic promotion and win the FA Cup, COYR 3 2 1 1 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 4 Posted January 4 (edited) Possibly this is an outlier but Burnley in 2008-09 had a pretty similar League Cup Run to us, semi finals and varied PL sides..Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham. While it apparently wrecked out season, it actually propelled them onto greater things and they won the Playoffs..that initial Promotion has underpinned them as well as excellent strategy, recruitment etc ever since. Edited January 4 by Mr Popodopolous Quote
old_eastender Posted January 5 Posted January 5 We have a clear 7 days before the Wolves match and another clear 7 days after, so in my view stick out our strongest side. We must have a reasonable chance at home against a side struggling this season in the Prem. 6 Quote
Silvio Dante Posted January 5 Posted January 5 One of the moans last year was that our cup “run” (getting to the fourth round is not a run and I’ll die on that hill) caused fixture congestion due to the replays. Those replays aren’t there this season and the squad is bigger and should be able to cope. And we have momentum from winning games (if not great performances). So I’d go strong as we feel we can. 9 Quote
Lew-T Posted January 5 Posted January 5 13 hours ago, BCFCGav said: A few weeks ago I’d have said put the first team out. But following 10 points from 12 putting us back in the conversation (albeit as outsiders) it might be a good chance to use the squad and keep our best players wrapped in cotton wool, ready for a push for the play-offs. Sticking with a 343/523/3421 (delete as you feel appropriate), we could go something like: Bajic; Vyner, Dickie, Naismith; Tanner, McGuane, Knight, Morrison; Earthy, Yu; Bell. Protection for O’Leary, McNally, McCrorie, Bird, Roberts, Anis, Twine, Wells. Useful minutes for Naismith, Morrison, Earthy, Bell. Still a competitive team but with an eye firmly on our more realistic aim. Others suggestions encouraged ️ I personally would never rest your first team keeper. Unless he isn’t fit, he starts. 3 Quote
And Its Smith Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I’d rest Vyner who I think has played every minute this season Quote
BeggyBlaggers Posted January 5 Posted January 5 53 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: One of the moans last year was that our cup “run” (getting to the fourth round is not a run and I’ll die on that hill) caused fixture congestion due to the replays. Those replays aren’t there this season and the squad is bigger and should be able to cope. And we have momentum from winning games (if not great performances). So I’d go strong as we feel we can. It wasnt a cup run, but it added 3 extra games that we didnt need.... money is always great but not sure it exactly keeps the club afloat Quote
Loosey Boy Posted January 5 Posted January 5 29 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I’d rest Vyner who I think has played every minute this season Judging by what LM said post-match yesterday, Dickie was “out on his feet” even before the game yesterday and so reckon he could be rested 1 Quote
GrahamC Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Would expect the team to be very near to yesterday, 9 starters the same, probably. 2 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 5 Posted January 5 29 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Judging by what LM said post-match yesterday, Dickie was “out on his feet” even before the game yesterday and so reckon he could be rested Which I thought was a really strange thing to say / admit. So is sports science guiding him or not? 3 Quote
Northern Red Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Barring any new injuries, I don't think it'll be much if any different to yesterday. We've got another full week after it before the next one. 1 1 Quote
Johnr1986 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 O’Leary Mcorrie Tanner, Dickie, Roberts McGaune Naismith Bell Earthy Yu Mayulu Bird, knight, Mehmeti, and wells are all vital to any success we will have this season so wouldn’t risk injury personally. 2 1 Quote
And Its Smith Posted January 5 Posted January 5 44 minutes ago, Johnr1986 said: O’Leary Mcorrie Tanner, Dickie, Roberts McGaune Naismith Bell Earthy Yu Mayulu Bird, knight, Mehmeti, and wells are all vital to any success we will have this season so wouldn’t risk injury personally. I’d be surprised if he changed shape 2 1 Quote
BCFCGav Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 To clarify on my original post, I’m suggesting resting players for the purpose of avoiding potential injury rather than concerns over fixture congestion. Also could help maintain a ‘happy camp’ as some currently on the fringes see some minutes. Quote
mozo Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I think it's important to keep McCrorie and Roberts in there to help them get up to speed. I'd happily see Yu, Earthy and Bell get minutes, albeit I doubt Anis, Twine and Wells would like to drop out. Quote
Sir Geoff Posted January 5 Posted January 5 If West Ham have any thoughts about recalling Earthy before the end of January, I doubt they will allow him to be cup tied. Quote
Benneythered Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Have no interest in going far in the cups this year it often causes up issues in the league when we do, try and rest as many first team players IMO, anyone know how well its selling? I Imagine its going to be pretty empty. Quote
David Brent Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Go big or go home. I hope we pick the strongest team we can. Personally, I’d pick an unchanged team. 1 Quote
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted January 5 Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, David Brent said: Go big or go home. I hope we pick the strongest team we can. Personally, I’d pick an unchanged team. Agreed we should play the strongest team in the circumstances, but I think that might mean bringing in McGuane for one of the forward players. Maybe save Mehmeti for the 60th minute? Quote
Negan Posted January 5 Posted January 5 As someone above said, it’s a weeks rest before and after, there’s no reason to play a weakened side. This is now no different than a league game, nice to see how we come up against a prem team, even if they have been poor this season. Try and win it, see who we get in the next round. The most likely outcome this season is we don’t get play offs, so a nice cup run, or at least the chance of getting a big team away is something to look forward too. Same team as yesterday. 1 Quote
1960maaan Posted January 5 Posted January 5 We have 3 senior CB's currently , so I'd be tempted to rest at least one and play an Academy lad. We have one fit LB/LWB , I'd play Morrison. Bird & Knight will play most of the rest of the season, I'd start McGuane and rest one . Earthy must start surely and Mayulu might as well too. If Sykes or Naismith are fit enough I'd have them involved. Still a decent line up , but protecting the position we are light on or under a little strain. 1 Quote
HengroveReds Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I’d go Max Tanner McNally Roberts McCorie Morrison McGuane Knight Yu Earthy Mayulu 3 1 Quote
fly in the air Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I know it won't happen I would like to see a new keeper and a new striker play against wolves Quote
And Its Smith Posted January 5 Posted January 5 27 minutes ago, HengroveReds said: I’d go Max Tanner McNally Roberts McCorie Morrison McGuane Knight Yu Earthy Mayulu Nailed it 1 Quote
TDarwall Posted January 5 Posted January 5 If we could I'd like to rest Knight. Whilst he's a veritable Duracell bunny I'm sure a rest would benefit him. Quote
BeggyBlaggers Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Is Earthy eligible to play?? Its been that long since we had a loan player i cant remember. Quote
Gazred Posted January 5 Posted January 5 With a week off now and another one after this fixture i'd say play your strongest side bar 2 or 3 rotational changes. 1 Quote
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Over the years there has been too much dumbing down of the FA Cup, the finest domestic club Cup competition in the world. Stay strong and go with our best team, the competition and our supporters deserve it. 2 Quote
MythikRobins Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, HengroveReds said: I’d go Max Tanner McNally Roberts McCorie Morrison McGuane Knight Yu Earthy Mayulu Edit: I’m blind. Bang on lineup. Edited January 5 by MythikRobins Deleted i’m blind Quote
1960maaan Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I really hope Manning give a youngster a go at some point. Morrison should get a start as he's next cab off the rank for LB/LWB. Maybe Campbell- Slowey as we may need him if no other CB comes in. Quote
Chairman Mao Posted January 5 Posted January 5 22.5k attendance paying £30 each on average (ticket and booze/pies etc) nets the club close to 750k. Given our finances a good cup run with home fixtures can allow us to sign a decent prospect from L1 next summer for example. We should go with our strongest side. 1 Quote
Son of Fred Posted January 6 Posted January 6 19 hours ago, old_eastender said: We have a clear 7 days before the Wolves match and another clear 7 days after, so in my view stick out our strongest side. We must have a reasonable chance at home against a side struggling this season in the Prem. Last three games - two wins & a draw...seven goals scored. Quote
City oz Posted January 6 Posted January 6 30 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: Last three games - two wins & a draw...seven goals scored. The two wins and the draw give us some confidence. Even though the three teams are struggling in the championship. Away to Coventry will be an indication of where we are at. Quote
Son of Fred Posted January 6 Posted January 6 35 minutes ago, City oz said: The two wins and the draw give us some confidence. Even though the three teams are struggling in the championship. Away to Coventry will be an indication of where we are at. Same form for them Quote
City oz Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Son of Fred said: Same form for them Yes. And totally agree Liam needs to put out the strongest team possible either it be the cup or the championship. Quote
Robbored Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I doubt Wolves will prioritise the FA Cup - to them PL survival is essential so I doubt they’ll play their strongest team which would give City a greater opportunity to progress assuming LM puts out our strongest team. However………do we really need a cup run? Surely the Championship has to be our priority and more matches in a cup we’re not going to win would increase the potential for injuries/suspensions. Personally I’m not remotely interested in the FA cup and haven’t bothered to get a ticket- I’m sure that I’m not alone in that. 1 1 Quote
Super Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Why would we rest players? We don't have a game midweek. Quote
City oz Posted January 6 Posted January 6 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: I doubt Wolves will prioritise the FA Cup - to them PL survival is essential so I doubt they’ll play their strongest team which would give City a greater opportunity to progress assuming LM puts out our strongest team. However………do we really need a cup run? Surely the Championship has to be our priority and more matches in a cup we’re not going to win would increase the potential for injuries/suspensions. Personally I’m not remotely interested in the FA cup and haven’t bothered to get a ticket- I’m sure that I’m not alone in that. I would be interested if anyone knows what the financial benefits are for a cup run. I.E is it based on spectator attendance, what does the home team get, what does the away team get. Quote
Scrumpty Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) Although not a priority, Wolves may view this as an opportunity to maintain momentum, so may not be as weak as one might think. I wouldn’t be surprised if they select from the 20 on duty tonight, mixing up a few starters. Although, unlike us, they have a following midweek fixure. Edited January 6 by Scrumpty Quote
miketh2nd Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I think cup games can be a good place to try out different players and different formations, i don't think we have a lot to lose and I think Wolves will want to beat us for confidence reasons so will be a strong side. I wouldn't mind seeing something like O Leary Tanner Vyner Mcnally McCorie Morrison Mcguane Bird Yu Bell Mehmeti resting Wells,Knight, Dickie, Twine and Roberts(we don't know how long pring is out for). Quote
Leabrook Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Super said: Why would we rest players? We don't have a game midweek. Because these players haven’t had a proper rest for ages! 2 2 Quote
Super Posted January 6 Posted January 6 15 minutes ago, Leabrook said: Because these players haven’t had a proper rest for ages! they have a weeks rest then another weeks rest! Quote
Cole Not Gas Posted January 6 Posted January 6 12 hours ago, Chairman Mao said: 22.5k attendance paying £30 each on average (ticket and booze/pies etc) nets the club close to 750k. Given our finances a good cup run with home fixtures can allow us to sign a decent prospect from L1 next summer for example. We should go with our strongest side. Hey Chairman, How does this £750k stack up with the amount SL is putting into our club on a weekly basis- i cant find that figure. We all like a cup run to give our fantastic away support the chance of another Anfield, Etihad or London Stadium ' Day Out' Quote
Sir Geoff Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, City oz said: I would be interested if anyone knows what the financial benefits are for a cup run. I.E is it based on spectator attendance, what does the home team get, what does the away team get. Gate receipts split 45/45/10 with the 10 going to the FA. Prize money for winning 3rd rd is £115,000 2 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 6 Posted January 6 16 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Gate receipts split 45/45/10 with the 10 going to the FA. Prize money for winning 3rd rd is £115,000 Plus tv money, we are selected for international broadcast this weekend, so that’s a few quid. Last season’s cup “run” was worth at least £1m to us. 2 1 Quote
KnowleUtd City Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) Maybe I'm old fashioned but I still love the FA Cup, last season the West Ham & Forest games were the highlight for me. It's a great position for us to be going into a cup game at home to a Prem side, having put some wins on the board to get us back in touch in the league, it's a lovely free hit for us! I hope we get a decent turnout, as I'm sure Wolves will bring a good number. COYR. Edited January 6 by KnowleUtd City 3 Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 6 Posted January 6 34 minutes ago, Malago said: 12.00 kick off. Is it on the Beeb? Overseas coverage, not sure on which country but a clutch of games will be. There was iirc similar in 2019 when we played Huddersfield in Round 3 at 5pm or 5.30pm..other examples too I expect. Quote
Sir Geoff Posted January 6 Posted January 6 59 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Plus tv money, we are selected for international broadcast this weekend, so that’s a few quid. Last season’s cup “run” was worth at least £1m to us. Plus prize money for 'losing' 4th round. Quote
trickytimes Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 hours ago, Robbored said: I doubt Wolves will prioritise the FA Cup - to them PL survival is essential so I doubt they’ll play their strongest team which would give City a greater opportunity to progress assuming LM puts out our strongest team. However………do we really need a cup run? Surely the Championship has to be our priority and more matches in a cup we’re not going to win would increase the potential for injuries/suspensions. Personally I’m not remotely interested in the FA cup and haven’t bothered to get a ticket- I’m sure that I’m not alone in that. So yesterday you told us you had no interest in Scottish football and today you tell us that you have no interest in the FA Cup. I cant wait to hear what you are not interested in tomorrow. 2 Quote
Son of Fred Posted January 6 Posted January 6 23 hours ago, Loosey Boy said: Judging by what LM said post-match yesterday, Dickie was “out on his feet” even before the game yesterday and so reckon he could be rested The world's gone soft... 1 Quote
Robbored Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, trickytimes said: So yesterday you told us you had no interest in Scottish football and today you tell us that you have no interest in the FA Cup. I cant wait to hear what you are not interested in tomorrow. I have lots of other interests TT other than football but as far football goes my primary interest is Bristol City FC and has been for many decades. When it comes to Scottish football it’s been a two horse race pretty much since the beginning. The standard can be compared to L2 and why Scotland struggle at international level. I really like the Scots as a nation and admire how passionate they are about their football clubs. They also have a realistic take on where their National team is particularly in terms of playing resources. As for the FA cup - it’s become far less prestigious than it once once. There was a time when I looked forward to the draw but it hasn’t been like that for many years - let’s face it City aren’t ever going to win it and it no longer interests me that much. Quote
Chairman Mao Posted January 6 Posted January 6 4 hours ago, Cole Not Gas said: Hey Chairman, How does this £750k stack up with the amount SL is putting into our club on a weekly basis- i cant find that figure. We all like a cup run to give our fantastic away support the chance of another Anfield, Etihad or London Stadium ' Day Out' based on the most recent figures for the 23/24 season we were making an underlying loss of circa £400k per week before player sales. Quote
mozo Posted January 6 Posted January 6 6 hours ago, Davefevs said: Plus tv money, we are selected for international broadcast this weekend, so that’s a few quid. Last season’s cup “run” was worth at least £1m to us. Yeah, I don't think Manning would be welcome in the boardroom if he put out a weakened team in the FA Cup. We want all the revenue we can get. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 6 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Chairman Mao said: based on the most recent figures for the 23/24 season we were making an underlying loss of circa £400k per week before player sales. Albeit the Cash Losses ie the equity conversion was about £250,000 per week but on the flipside we paid some Interest in Cash Terms but not the full £2.5-3mish. 1 Quote
Chairman Mao Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Albeit the Cash Losses ie the equity conversion was about £250,000 per week but on the flipside we paid some Interest in Cash Terms but not the full £2.5-3mish. Interesting, given the 45/45/10 split - would work out at £335k for the club, plus the £115k if we won. So maybe a fortnights worth of underlying losses. Not inconsiderable. Of course the real prize would be an away day at Arsenal/Spurs where the ticket receipts would be significantly higher. Either way, there is still a clear financial incentive for the club to do well in the cup. Wolves may rest players, we are in decentish form - we have half a chance. Quote
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 6 Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: Interesting, given the 45/45/10 split - would work out at £335k for the club, plus the £115k if we won. So maybe a fortnights worth of underlying losses. Not inconsiderable. Of course the real prize would be an away day at Arsenal/Spurs where the ticket receipts would be significantly higher. Either way, there is still a clear financial incentive for the club to do well in the cup. Wolves may rest players, we are in decentish form - we have half a chance. Definitely we shouldn't be throwing in the towel IMO, Wolves may also rest a lot of players..for me it is try to win every game we play and yeah the financial side as you mention. One off Cup tie, no replays anymore..we surely have a chance. 1 Quote
Leabrook Posted January 6 Posted January 6 8 hours ago, Super said: they have a weeks rest then another weeks rest! I’m fully aware of that. Have you heard of something called a winter break? Hopefully. If we rest players for this game then they will get a pretty good break across a 2-3 week period, which will set them up nicely for the next 6 weeks. Quote
Open End Numb Legs Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I would keep this very simple, ignore which competition and opponents we have, just rest those players that really need it. That way we get a good side out and we stay in step with fixtures that follow. 1 Quote
Sleepy1968 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, Leabrook said: I’m fully aware of that. Have you heard of something called a winter break? Hopefully. If we rest players for this game then they will get a pretty good break across a 2-3 week period, which will set them up nicely for the next 6 weeks. In this country a 'winter break' is something Nicky Maynard would have gone on, allegedly. Quote
Super Posted January 6 Posted January 6 41 minutes ago, Leabrook said: I’m fully aware of that. Have you heard of something called a winter break? Hopefully. If we rest players for this game then they will get a pretty good break across a 2-3 week period, which will set them up nicely for the next 6 weeks. I'm sure they'll be fine 1 Quote
RedLionLad Posted January 6 Posted January 6 4 hours ago, Robbored said: .....but as far football goes my primary interest is Bristol City FC and has been for many decades. Yet, you don't want to see them play Wolves in the FA Cup. Strange... Quote
Club and Country Posted January 6 Posted January 6 We sold many? I think wolves sold out very quickly Quote
Robbored Posted January 6 Posted January 6 29 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Yet, you don't want to see them play Wolves in the FA Cup. Strange... The FA cup has lost its prestige in my eyes RLL and Wolves aren’t exactly attractive opposition. Quote
Leabrook Posted January 6 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Super said: I'm sure they'll be fine Yeah they would be ‘fine’. With a bit of a break they could be in great condition though. Do you think managers want a winter break for a laugh?! Surprised you don’t want players in great shape going into Feb 3 Quote
INCRED Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I can honesty say I don’t care what team we put out and I’m not fussed if we win or lose this tie. it would be nice to see some of the promising younger players get some game time though 1 Quote
redsquirrel Posted January 6 Posted January 6 id like to see fally and sincs start together,see if the 'runner' could work with the .finisher'. im only watching the first half tonight but wolves dont seem to be all that, some great moves and crosses but most of them into empty space with nobody else on the same page. Quote
Robbored Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 9 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: id like to see fally and sincs start together,see if the 'runner' could work with the .finisher'. im only watching the first half tonight but wolves dont seem to be all that, some great moves and crosses but most of them into empty space with nobody else on the same page. Based on the game against Forest tonight Wolves are defensively very very poor 0-2 at half time. They’re a bit better going forward forcing a couple of very decent saves from Sels Edited January 6 by Robbored 1 Quote
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