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4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

…at Ashton Gate for the Women’s games.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/09/four-womens-championship-clubs-to-trial-letting-fans-drink-alcohol-in-stands?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Good thing? Bad thing? Any chance whatsoever of going into the man’s game (no IMO)…

 

It would never happen in the men’s game for obvious reasons but allowing the restrictions to be removed in the women’s game won’t be a problem but it still won’t encourage me to actually watch women’s football at AG.

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8 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

…at Ashton Gate for the Women’s games.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/09/four-womens-championship-clubs-to-trial-letting-fans-drink-alcohol-in-stands?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Good thing? Bad thing? Any chance whatsoever of going into the man’s game (no IMO)…

 

One thing doing it in Women's games , very different clientele . I just look at the England games ( that famous meme )and at Gigs , blokes paying high prices to throw beer around ? Even if not intentional there would be beer slopping around the stands. I can go 90 minutes with out a beer , 45 if desperate , so I'm not the target audience, but as they show the game in the concourse where the bars are open not sure there is a need. 
Just my opinion 

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22 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

One thing doing it in Women's games , very different clientele . I just look at the England games ( that famous meme )and at Gigs , blokes paying high prices to throw beer around ? Even if not intentional there would be beer slopping around the stands. I can go 90 minutes with out a beer , 45 if desperate , so I'm not the target audience, but as they show the game in the concourse where the bars are open not sure there is a need. 
Just my opinion 

Just imagine THAT goal against Man U, I'm sure everyone with a pint in their hand would have stopped, put it down gently under their seat and then celebrated with a little clap of the hands. 

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17 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

At risk of repeating myself, it’s an absolute pain in the arse at rugby having to get up every 5 mins for someone to go to the bar…to come back…to go have the inevitable wee, rinse and repeat. 

I thought this was the point of the 2-pinters. Unless you're really rather thirsty, surely 2 pints can last you 40mins!  

Absolutely no need for beer in the stands for the men's football though. It would be carnage. 

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47 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

At risk of repeating myself, it’s an absolute pain in the arse at rugby having to get up every 5 mins for someone to go to the bar…to come back…to go have the inevitable wee, rinse and repeat. 

That's true, but I don't think that's going to be the case at womens football matches. You aren't going to have someone from a group going to the bar every 15 mins. I also don't think you will need to get up every 5 mins to let someone go for a wee as people don't have multiple pints before or during the game at womens matches (Or leaving early so they can get 2 at half time...)

 

It's more likley going to be people who haven't finished their pint before the game or at half time, who would prefer to not rush it and take it into the stand to finish it in a sensible way.

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1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

…at Ashton Gate for the Women’s games.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/09/four-womens-championship-clubs-to-trial-letting-fans-drink-alcohol-in-stands?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Good thing? Bad thing? Any chance whatsoever of going into the man’s game (no IMO)…

 

As been said before, the last thing you want is people continually walking past you during the match with trays of beer/cider.

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1 hour ago, Robbored said:

It would never happen in the men’s game for obvious reasons but allowing the restrictions to be removed in the women’s game won’t be a problem but it still won’t encourage me to actually watch women’s football at AG.

I'm sure the team are gutted you're not there to support them.

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25 minutes ago, TammyAB said:

The atmosphere is utter shit anyway so we can't be doing it anymore harm bringing this in

Although attendances have gone down drastically since relegation, we haven't lost at home at all in the league, and we're only second on goal difference. Swings & roundabouts...

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27 minutes ago, shahanshahan said:

Although attendances have gone down drastically since relegation, we haven't lost at home at all in the league, and we're only second on goal difference. Swings & roundabouts...

I'm talking about the men's team, which I'm guessing this women's trial is for

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21 minutes ago, TammyAB said:

I'm talking about the men's team, which I'm guessing this women's trial is for

I'm sure that the trial is indeed being done with a view to seeing how it goes for the women's game and then potentially doing it for the men's game too.

I can well imagine that clubs are keen to have the rules relaxed so that they can, for instance, sell booze to well-off 'customers' in premium seating areas, and also not have the inconvenience of having to refuse hospitality customers the opportunity to take their drinks out to their seats with them at the start of the match / after half-time.

My guess is that it will be introduced in due course, but only in a few selected areas of each stadium.

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3 hours ago, Robbored said:

It would never happen in the men’s game for obvious reasons 

Exactly. It would be like 28 Days Later with mint sauce. 

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14 minutes ago, Blagdon red said:

I'm sure that the trial is indeed being done with a view to seeing how it goes for the women's game and then potentially doing it for the men's game too.

I can well imagine that clubs are keen to have the rules relaxed so that they can, for instance, sell booze to well-off 'customers' in premium seating areas, and also not have the inconvenience of having to refuse hospitality customers the opportunity to take their drinks out to their seats with them at the start of the match / after half-time.

My guess is that it will be introduced in due course, but only in a few selected areas of each stadium.

The Law would need to be changed first.

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1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

As been said before, the last thing you want is people continually walking past you during the match with trays of beer/cider.

The flipside is if you can bring pint(s) to your seat, you're not up and down to the concourse for beer during the game, nor do you stay in 5-10 post kick-off to finish your pint, thereby entire rows having to stand..you can enter on time as the stupid law would be changed.

It's certainly prevalent in parts of the Dolman people in after kickoff in both halves, up and down during the game.

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2 minutes ago, OneTeamInBristol said:

The Law would need to be changed first.

A successful trial will no doubt be used as the reasoning for why that should happen, as was the case with safe standing.

I'm in favour of it changing. I think football fans should be treated like adults. I also think that fans who want to sit an area where booze is not allowed ought to have that option. Football grounds are big enough to offer a variety of 'matchday experiences', so that each fan can choose what best suits them.

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As long as they don't offer those Bottomless Lunches.  I'd rather face a dozen ale addled lads over a dozen Prosecco-fueled women any day of the week! 

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64% of fans are women. And average age is 35.

Many of them will be bringing young kids. 

Can't see much beer being sold tbh. 

It's all the sugar in the sweets that the kids eat, that you have to worry about. 

Haribo are lethal. 

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1 hour ago, TinMan's left peg said:

Why are you so obsessed with telling everyone this over and over again? 

Even more boring than his Scottish football rants.

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3 hours ago, Eco said:

I'm sure the team are gutted you're not there to support them.

He's also not attending on Saturday due to his dislike of the FA Cup 🤣 

Strange...

1 hour ago, TinMan's left peg said:

Why are you so obsessed with telling everyone this over and over again? 

Strange...

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1 hour ago, Blagdon red said:

A successful trial will no doubt be used as the reasoning for why that should happen, as was the case with safe standing.

I'm in favour of it changing. I think football fans should be treated like adults. I also think that fans who want to sit an area where booze is not allowed ought to have that option. Football grounds are big enough to offer a variety of 'matchday experiences', so that each fan can choose what best suits them.

 

I've had a beer watching the football at non-league; it was fine there because you had to drink in a flat designated area without seats in front of the bar / cafe at one end.

There were maybe ten people in there at any one time, with most sitting in the stands. I had a pint at the start of each half which was typical, nobody was tanking it.

I don't think it makes sense with everyone jammed into small plastic seats as they are at the Gate, for the reasons that @Barrs Court Red says - it's a right pain for the other people on your row.

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2 hours ago, TinMan's left peg said:

Why are you so obsessed with telling everyone this over and over again? 

TinMan - if you don’t like my posts it’s simple enough to put me on ignore………:cool2:

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I have always been baffled as to why the rule has been applied at the women’s matches as the clientele is very different.
I have seen people called back by stewards having bought a drink with no idea that they couldn’t take it to their seat. Although I suspect the take up of it will be quite limited, it might also increase the number of singers and duration they can keep singing for as that is a much more select few than it is for the men. I’m all in favour of it for women’s matches, whereas I would expect it to be a bit of a nightmare if reintroduced for men’s games, with all the to and fro plus potential increased aggression from a small number but enough to a pain. 

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3 minutes ago, Parkwaymom said:

I have always been baffled as to why the rule has been applied at the women’s matches as the clientele is very different.
I have seen people called back by stewards having bought a drink with no idea that they couldn’t take it to their seat. Although I suspect the take up of it will be quite limited, it might also increase the number of singers and duration they can keep singing for as that is a much more select few than it is for the men. I’m all in favour of it for women’s matches, whereas I would expect it to be a bit of a nightmare if reintroduced for men’s games, with all the to and fro plus potential increased aggression from a small number but enough to a pain. 

Legislation, Women's Games are covered by the same albeit I'm no expert.

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5 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

One thing doing it in Women's games , very different clientele . I just look at the England games ( that famous meme )and at Gigs , blokes paying high prices to throw beer around ? Even if not intentional there would be beer slopping around the stands. I can go 90 minutes with out a beer , 45 if desperate , so I'm not the target audience, but as they show the game in the concourse where the bars are open not sure there is a need. 
Just my opinion 

Agreed, I don’t understand the need TBH. I don’t bother with any food or drink in the ground either for that matter though. 

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36 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

He's also not attending on Saturday due to his dislike of the FA Cup 


It’s not that I dislike the FA Cup RLL but in my opinion it has lost its prestige. Plenty of PL clubs don’t play their strongest team in the 3rd Rd as the PL is far more important and I doubt Wolves will put much importance on Saturdays match. It’s not a priority especially where they’re currently positioned in the PL.

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2 hours ago, TinMan's left peg said:

Why are you so obsessed with telling everyone this over and over again? 

 

Quite.

I have no interest in women's football as I have no interest in Formula 1.

As a consequence I don't frequent a Formula 1 forum and, since the women's football discussion on here has been restricted from the previous multiple threads to the current single thread which I have on ignore, I am effectively not frequenting a women's football forum.

Therefore I don't feel the need to keep reminding people that I'm not interested in these any more than feeling the need to tell people that I am not interested in jazz.

I don't wish to put any of these down and I hope that everyone who participates in or watches any of the three examples I have cited enjoys them. Just not for me.

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I've thought it for a few years the time has come. Football League thought so too back in Autumn 2018.

This legislation arose in 1985 and possibly was even more stringent then. I'd say it was fair and proportionate in the remainder of the 1980s, the 1990s and maybe to 10 years ago, Idk pick a number or a point in time.. 2010?

Since then, football has changed immeasurably as has the context in which it is watched. I'd say the ban in its entirety has outlived its usefulness.

Granted not all Stands should have the option probably but some should..IMO.

You can do it at Cricket, AFAIK both codes of Rugby, Ice Hockey I believe, Horse Racing, Non League Football plus in a range of European nations for Football.

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2 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It’s not that I dislike the FA Cup RLL but in my opinion it has lost its prestige. Plenty of PL clubs don’t play their strongest team in the 3rd Rd as the PL is far more important and I doubt Wolves will put much importance on Saturdays match. It’s not a priority especially where they’re currently positioned in the PL.

I assume you didn't go to any of the Man City or Man U games?

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12 minutes ago, Parkwaymom said:

I have always been baffled as to why the rule has been applied at the women’s matches as the clientele is very different.
I have seen people called back by stewards having bought a drink with no idea that they couldn’t take it to their seat. Although I suspect the take up of it will be quite limited, it might also increase the number of singers and duration they can keep singing for as that is a much more select few than it is for the men. I’m all in favour of it for women’s matches, whereas I would expect it to be a bit of a nightmare if reintroduced for men’s games, with all the to and fro plus potential increased aggression from a small number but enough to a pain. 

 

8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Legislation, Women's Games are covered by the same albeit I'm no expert.

Not legislation.  Mens football is specified in the Sporting Events Act.  The ban in the womens game is self imposed.

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2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

The flipside is if you can bring pint(s) to your seat, you're not up and down to the concourse for beer during the game, nor do you stay in 5-10 post kick-off to finish your pint, thereby entire rows having to stand..you can enter on time as the stupid law would be changed.

It's certainly prevalent in parts of the Dolman people in after kickoff in both halves, up and down during the game.

People drink more than one pint in 45 minutes! Plus they'd have to go to the loo

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5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I've thought it for a few years the time has come. Football League thought so too back in Autumn 2018.

This legislation arose in 1985 and possibly was even more stringent then. I'd say it was fair and proportionate in the remainder of the 1980s, the 1990s and maybe to 10 years ago, Idk pick a number or a point in time.. 2010?

Since then, football has changed immeasurably as has the context in which it is watched. I'd say the ban in its entirety has outlived its usefulness.

Granted not all Stands should have the option probably but some should..IMO.

You can do it at Cricket, AFAIK both codes of Rugby, Ice Hockey I believe, Horse Racing, Non League Football plus in a range of European nations for Football.

With the exception that so many people now have some weird fascination with overpaying for a pint that they're content to hurl as far and wide as they can if a goal is scored.  Having some blocks without this wouldn't stop the adjacent blocks being affected by this.

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1 minute ago, exAtyeoMax said:

People drink more than one pint in 45 minutes! Plus they'd have to go to the loo

No idea which at and you're in, but parts of the Dolman it is pretty commonplace already for fans to pour in late after the start of each half, not just the Dolman but especially noticeable there.

Some kind of (legislation would have to change first obvs) permission there would probably reduce it.

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Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

No idea which at and you're in, but parts of the Dolman it is pretty commonplace already for fans to pour in late after the start of each half, not just the Dolman but especially noticeable there.

Some kind of (legislation would have to change first obvs) permission there would probably reduce it.

they do that in the SS too. People would be in and out all through the game to buy drinks, that's far more annoying than the last 5-10 mins of each half.

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2 minutes ago, Oizys said:

With the exception that so many people now have some weird fascination with overpaying for a pint that they're content to hurl as far and wide as they can if a goal is scored.  Having some blocks without this wouldn't stop the adjacent blocks being affected by this.

Yes would have to be managed carefully, some blocks, maybe more like different stands..a problem is you can't tell unless they have previous, that someone will act like/is an idiot until it materialises..

The other examples I gave, isn't it applicable to any? They may not have been typical match going fans either but lads lads lads, oh England playing kinda thing.

What's seen in Fanzones might not be or have been replicated in Grounds.

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Just now, exAtyeoMax said:

they do that in the SS too. People would be in and out all through the game to buy drinks, that's far more annoying than the last 5-10 mins of each half.

I still think it is more prevalent in the Dolman albeit it happens everywhere.

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6 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

…at Ashton Gate for the Women’s games.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/09/four-womens-championship-clubs-to-trial-letting-fans-drink-alcohol-in-stands?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Good thing? Bad thing? Any chance whatsoever of going into the man’s game (no IMO)…

 

Hope not.

Seriously pissed me off mugs walking past me every minute at the rugby and you just know tossers will start launching it if we score.

Thumbs down for me.

They could always make it upper Lansdown and sell premier priced seats to the sad ***** who cant watch a game without that prop.

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14 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Yes would have to be managed carefully, some blocks, maybe more like different stands..a problem is you can't tell unless they have previous, that someone will act like/is an idiot until it materialises..

The other examples I gave, isn't it applicable to any? They may not have been typical match going fans either but lads lads lads, oh England playing kinda thing.

What's seen in Fanzones might not be or have been replicated in Grounds.

I don't think it is applicable.  Overseas football is different as it seems to be a British/English mentality.  Other sports feel less tribal.  It's why football was singled out in the first place.  I know there's non league, but again it's not quite the same due to the size of the groups congregating.  I would 100% expect to go home drenched in watered down beer if we ever were entertained enough to feel emotion down there and the ban was lifted! 

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8 hours ago, CyderInACan said:

I thought this was the point of the 2-pinters. Unless you're really rather thirsty, surely 2 pints can last you 40mins!  

Absolutely no need for beer in the stands for the men's football though. It would be carnage. 

Never understood the 2 pinters, especially of the crap lager you get at football grounds. As if the lager isn't bad enough, warm lager as you get towards the end of 2 pints is a recipe for spewing up that which you haven't already thrown around the stands. 

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I wouldn’t like this see this at football. I go to watch the Bears now and again and people are up and down all the time which can get slightly annoying and they are also a lot more breaks in play in Rugby compared to football.

Can you imagine when a goal is scored all the idiots will be throwing their pints around which would p1ss a lot of people off .

I like a drink but surly if you can’t go 45 mins without having a drink you have a problem.

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If you want to have a beer and enjoy watching some football, go watch the likes of Yate or Mangotsfield in the lower leagues 👍 

I don’t see this happening in league football in England for a long time at least. 

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15 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

…at Ashton Gate for the Women’s games.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/09/four-womens-championship-clubs-to-trial-letting-fans-drink-alcohol-in-stands?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Good thing? Bad thing? Any chance whatsoever of going into the man’s game (no IMO)…

 

Totally unrelated to men's football, because it's not men's football. It's women's football.

A completely different animal. 

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2 hours ago, bs3 said:

I wouldn’t like this see this at football. I go to watch the Bears now and again and people are up and down all the time which can get slightly annoying and they are also a lot more breaks in play in Rugby compared to football.

Can you imagine when a goal is scored all the idiots will be throwing their pints around which would p1ss a lot of people off .

I like a drink but surly if you can’t go 45 mins without having a drink you have a problem.

On a point of principle, Football is one of the last bastions really.

I'm exaggerating a bit but responsible tax paying adults, are suddenly deemed as idiots and or children in a football context. Sure there are some at all grounds and this is the dilemma with something like this.

Use it (responsibly) or lose it (again)..clearly you need to cater for all so parts of the Ground where it isn't a thing, need these too.

It just seems incongruous IMO.

By way of example, when I went to the Sunderland game with my brother last year, was by a pub near Ashton Gate. Terrible traffic, running badly late.

Had to have 3 pints in half an hour to avoid missing kick-off whereas if the law permitted you to take it to seat and you can have 1 or 2 at pub and 1 or 2 in seat...more leisurely and civilised. I barely drink post Covid save for special occasions.

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6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

On a point of principle, Football is one of the last bastions really.

I'm exaggerating a bit but responsible tax paying adults, are suddenly deemed as idiots and or children in a football context. Sure there are some at all grounds and this is the dilemma with something like this.

Use it (responsibly) or lose it (again)..clearly you need to cater for all so parts of the Ground where it isn't a thing, need these too.

It just seems incongruous IMO.

By way of example, when I went to the Sunderland game with my brother last year, was by a pub near Ashton Gate. Terrible traffic, running badly late.

Had to have 3 pints in half an hour to avoid missing kick-off whereas if the law permitted you to take it to seat and you can have 1 or 2 at pub and 1 or 2 in seat...more leisurely and civilised. I barely drink post Covid save for special occasions.

You didn't have to have 3 pints! Your choice. It's a stupid idea for many reasons and thankfully will never happen at men's football 

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Prohibition at football is, obviously, completely anachronistic in a modern society but the reality is that it would be a nightmare. 

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2 hours ago, Super said:

You didn't have to have 3 pints! Your choice. It's a stupid idea for many reasons and thankfully will never happen at men's football 

The point, I was using a slightly daft but real example to make a point.

This rule such as it is, can encourage people to neck pints ore kick off. Rather than taking it steady..just seems absurd in a modern society.

I'm well aware of why it arose in the first place but there have been major changes in 40 years.

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This is from late May 2023. Quire interesting,on this subject. Dunno the sample size, which clubs just quickly found it.

*Fans broadly support refusal of entry if drunk.

*Fans broadly support not allowed to bring alcohol in.

*Fans don't tend to support the law prohibiting alcohol in view of the pitch.

*Fans don't tend to support the laws pertaining to alcohol on designated vehicles e.g.

Geoff Pearson's subsequent point is common sense too. Or human nature anyway?

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11 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

The point, I was using a slightly daft but real example to make a point.

This rule such as it is, can encourage people to neck pints ore kick off. Rather than taking it steady..just seems absurd in a modern society.

I'm well aware of why it arose in the first place but there have been major changes in 40 years.

People wouldn't drink any less before the game. It would be exactly the same except they'd then be a pain in the ass during the game.

It's something I'd never want to be brought into football. I believe it's the main reason that Rugby is so dull to attend.

Half the crowd holding pints & unable to clab, muted celebrations because of not wanting to waste their beer & no doubt in football it would just turn into a beer shower at every goal.

On the flip side, it annoys me that we aren't allowed to, because we are watching a different shaped ball in play on the pitch - but as it is the rule, I'd never want it changed.

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2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

People wouldn't drink any less before the game. It would be exactly the same except they'd then be a pain in the ass during the game.

It's something I'd never want to be brought into football. I believe it's the main reason that Rugby is so dull to attend.

Half the crowd holding pints & unable to clab, muted celebrations because of not wanting to waste their beer & no doubt in football it would just turn into a beer shower at every goal.

On the flip side, it annoys me that we aren't allowed to, because we are watching a different shaped ball in play on the pitch - but as it is the rule, I'd never want it changed.

Unconvinced..people staying in the concourse post kick-off or HT to finish pints or nipping down there too is another factor to consider. It is especially noticeable in bits of the Dolman but happens all over.

My favourite example was Swansea at Home in 2019, when we scored just after HT- there was a roar of the crowd then 30 secs on, a secondary roar on the concourse when it came through on TV screen.

Beer shower is the big major risk but again unconvinced, people seem to be extrapolating examples from some Fan Zones in 2018 mainly..

Clearly that could easily be changed back if fans acted like idiots.

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5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Unconvinced..people staying in the concourse post kick-off or HT to finish pints or nipping down there too is another factor to consider. It is especially noticeable in bits of the Dolman but happens all over.

My favourite example was Swansea at Home in 2019, when we scored just after HT- there was a roar of the crowd then 30 secs on, a secondary roar on the concourse when it came through on TV screen.

Beer shower is the big major risk but again unconvinced, people seem to be extrapolating examples from some Fan Zones in 2018 mainly..

Clearly that could easily be changed back if fans acted like idiots.

At least if they go in the concourse at the moment they are out of the way of people who actually are there for the football.

It would be a nightmare if everyone could wander back & forth from their seats throughout the game. 

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Just now, Bar BS3 said:

At least if they go in the concourse at the moment they are out of the way of people who actually are there for the football.

It would be a nightmare if everyone could wander back & forth from their seats throughout the game. 

Or people might take 2-3 pints up and if they are in the concourse they often go down, have beer or similar come back up thereby disrupting rows.

Sure this article pertains to Women's Football, yes it is a different spectator base but I'm glad we are one of those trialling it.

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22 hours ago, Blagdon red said:

My guess is that it will be introduced in due course, but only in a few selected areas of each stadium.

When you say a few selected areas do you mean e.g.

*Corporate/Hospitality

*Then on the more regular Matchday side, somewhere like Safe Standing area(s) plus Away end?

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