Robbored Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Interesting piece in the Green 'n yesterday about Marc Goodfellow. An unamed Stoke journalist who has followed Goodfellows creer says that he has the ability but lacks consistancy.Thats the main reason that he didn't make it at Stoke.He has great pace but can't take heavy tackilng and the journo will watch his City career with interest. He thinks that if City can help Goodfellow overcome his consistancy problem then we'll have a very good player on our hands. Its interesting that alot of flair players have problems with consistancy(apart from Thierry Henry.. ).Murray,Bent,Goodridge and Gavin to name just four ex City players had the problem.Murray got better as he got older but the others had about one good game in four. Strange why that should be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpaul Posted January 11, 2004 Share Posted January 11, 2004 Its interesting that alot of flair players have problems with consistancy(apart from Thierry Henry.. ).Murray,Bent,Goodridge and Gavin to name just four ex City players had the problem.Murray got better as he got older but the others had about one good game in four. Strange why that should be.... Would suggest that during our promotion season under Jordan, the majority of goals scored by Bob Taylor were created by Mark Gavin,however would go along with your comments. Cant comment on Henri, haven't seen him play. Who does he play for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Interesting piece in the Green 'n yesterday about Marc Goodfellow. He has great pace but can't take heavy tackilng and the journo will watch his City career with interest. I read a number of pieces by Stoke fans last week, in which many of them said he looked dangerous but disappeared as soon as he took a heavy tackle (preferable to disappearing before you take a heavy tackle, I guess, a la Aaron). However, on Saturday, he seemed to be able to anticipate a tackle and skip round it or cut inside, so, hopefully, his skill will get him out of trouble more often than not at this level. I also thought he closed down the opposition well when he came on and put in a few hard challenges of his own, which surprised me a bit, given how much I'd read about him not liking the physical side of the game. All in all, I thought he showed enough on Saturday to suggest that far more defenders will end up sliding past him on their backsides than will put him into Row Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady bunch Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 the article does make sense, on Saturday when he first came on he looked like a under 16 player! and all it would take was a strong gust of wind to blow him over. Reminded me of Jason Fowlers early days. I was shocked when informed that he was 22 years old. His display however was good (apart from spooning the first chance) and I think if he can overcome the tackling side will be a good player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Interesting piece in the Green 'n yesterday about Marc Goodfellow. An unamed Stoke journalist who has followed Goodfellows creer says that he has the ability but lacks consistancy.Thats the main reason that he didn't make it at Stoke.He has great pace but can't take heavy tackilng and the journo will watch his City career with interest. He thinks that if City can help Goodfellow overcome his consistancy problem then we'll have a very good player on our hands. Its interesting that alot of flair players have problems with consistancy(apart from Thierry Henry.. ).Murray,Bent,Goodridge and Gavin to name just four ex City players had the problem.Murray got better as he got older but the others had about one good game in four. Strange why that should be.... Joe Jordan used to say that he didn't expect his wingers to tackle like full backs but he did expect them to track back and get in the oppositions way. Scott Murray was hardly Ron Harris, was he and he was our most effective player for the last one and a half seasons he was with the club and our top scorer in the last season. The kid got whacked when he came on on Saturday and what really impressed me was that he came back for more. A foul on him led to the free kick from which he scored the header. On what I saw Saturday, £50-100k's a bargain. On the flair player, consitency thing, I think the reason's quite simple. It's far more difficult to beat players, score goals and cross good balls than be a consistent defender who, ala Matt Hill, wins the ball and then passes it five yards (we hope) or delivers it forty yards to the opposition or into the crowd! That's why, with a few notable exceptions the bog money signings are normally strikers and creative players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brady bunch Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Hill is a good defender, and he should be because when he is in the side the team have to defend more as his distribution is shocking. If you watch him closely he does not appear to look up either just before or during the kicking process. he simply puts his head down and whacks it! he also seems to dither on the ball, gets closed down and then again ends up going down the hit and hope route. I know Tony Butler has struggled this year, but give me him anytime, yes he has got caught out particlary this season, but he never wastes the ball and always looks for a teammate first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dolman Moaner Posted January 12, 2004 Share Posted January 12, 2004 Personally I would like to see Bell back in the starting line up. Hill and Woodman may, arguably, be better defenders and I know people will point to a lack of pace from Bell. However, his general all round play is so much better than either Hill or Woodman. He does have a good brain, links well with others and distributes the ball better than the other two. He is also one of the best crossers of the ball at the club and is always likely to chip in with the odd goal. Agree entirely, I also think Bell and Brown link very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Be interesting to see what Bell can do with Goodfellow, then, I reckon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Snufflelufagus Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 On the note about Hill I met a mate of his once at a Wigan game who informed me his name was Captain Slice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paolo Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Scott Murray was hardly Ron Harris, was he and he was our most effective player for the last one and a half seasons he was with the club and our top scorer in the last season. On the flair player, consitency thing, I think the reason's quite simple. I think we all forget how dire Murray was at the start of his time with us. He had a terrible season in Div1 (worse than the rest I mean!) and it took him an age to come to terms with his position and then to deliver consistent results. Much I think is down to confidence. Murray gained his with time and maturity, others suffer at AG due to the poor crowd reception to anything out of the ordinary, I mean try a move or dribble and lose the ball and the groans will put you off forever. Thierry H at the Arse took time to settle too, and whilst he is at the very top end of the scale, it has been since he has gained confidence in his game he has produced the most outstanding results. Aaron Brown is a player crying out to hit a a run of form, because without doubt, he has the pace and skills to be a very very good player. Goodfellow who knows? He sounds similar to Roberts in the winger/striker role, a player with pace but not able to deliver reliable results. One thing is for sure though, he wont do it if we do not encourage him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon Hater Posted January 13, 2004 Share Posted January 13, 2004 Great to actually see some praise for Bell in this topic. He's a great player and maybe lacks pace, but I feel alot safer and reasurred when he's playing left back, very good footballer, in a different league to Hill and Woody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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