Brian Tinnion

[Desso]

Okay, the players that he signed have been disappointing to say the least, therefore we can assume that Tins. is not the best judge of a players ability, but perhaps that's all we can say.

Although results have picked up slightly under the experienced "messiah" Johnson we haven't looked convincing, even in the matches that we won, so if GJ can't make them play (you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear) what chance did the inexperienced BT have.

Don't get me wrong, I am a Gary Johnson admirer. All I am saying is that in my opinion, the players are playing to the best of their ability and putting a lot of effort in, but they are just not good enough.

If BT was still manager, no doubt countless people would say that they weren't playing for him, but they have proved that this isn't the case.

I will say again, It's the players who aren't good enough and maybe not BT.

And NO this isn't him or anyone associated with him.

[fRed]

Maybe the players Tins signed were good, but they couldn't work together as a team?

[Guest redrebel]

Okay, the players that he signed have been disappointing to say the least, therefore we can assume that Tins. is not the best judge of a players ability, but perhaps that's all we can say.

Although results have picked up slightly under the experienced "messiah" Johnson we haven't looked convincing, even in the matches that we won, so if GJ can't make them play (you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear) what chance did the inexperienced BT have.

Don't get me wrong, I am a Gary Johnson admirer. All I am saying is that in my opinion, the players are playing to the best of their ability and putting a lot of effort in, but they are just not good enough.

If BT was still manager, no doubt countless people would say that they weren't playing for him, but they have proved that this isn't the case.

I will say again, It's the players who aren't good enough and maybe not BT.

And NO this isn't him or anyone associated with him.

Did you watch any games under BT - he was totally devoid of any ability as a Manager.He was utter rubbish.He had 18 months at the job and led us to the parless state we are in now with a large number of the squad either past it or not up to it.Gary Johnson has been here 6 weeks.To compare the two at this stage is pointless.Have a look how Gary Johnson's team is doing - it is Yeovil - the team he built with a lot less money that Tinnion had and who currently are doing a lot better than we are.

[Robbored]

Maybe the players Tins signed were good, but they couldn't work together as a team?

Tinnion's team couldn't defend either and he was slated on here by his detractors but now Johnson has the same problem.He's brought in Sankofa but apart from him and Younga - who has yet to complete 90mins in a City shirt we've seen little change in the back.

Neither Tinnion or Johnson seem to know thier best back four.

Personally I think Phillips is the one common factor and I would like to Basso start at Chesterfield on Wednesday night.The Spirites are flying and City could be in for a thrashing if things don't change at the back.

[Alex_BCFC]

Personally I think Phillips is the one common factor and I would like to Basso start at Chesterfield on Wednesday night.The Spirites are flying and City could be in for a thrashing if things don't change at the back.

I would normally agree with you Robbered (as you probably know) but Phillips was once again much improved today. Was not at fault for any of the goals and came out and collected the crosses he should have. We had to put up with the usual bad kicking and mucking about but I'm much happier with him recently. The real problem is Woodman and Carey.

[leadman]

tinnion was a terrible manager, not just the poor player judgment but the tyranical way we lost danny coles and the doc, most blamed the players but lets be honest, loseing these has weekened our team, breaking up the tightest defence in the division was a stupid move, matty hill,aaron brown,anyinsah, couldnt wait to get away, football standards dropped.

i hope it wont take us forever to sort out.

[Jimmy]

I find it somewhat ironic that the one thing people consistently referred to when looking at the positives from the Tinnion era was his signings. And now we are confronted with the thought that maybe it was infact his transfers that let him down rather than his ability to motivate and tactically prepare a football team.

In his time as manager of this club Brian Tinnion demonstrated that, quite simply, he was not upto the job. Without having to be the most informed or knowledgable person in the world it is clear that his appointment was met with scepticism by a number of the playing staff, a scepticism that he failed to dispel throughout his time.

The notion that he rid the club of its 'bad apples' hit the preverbial fan when Partridge, Brown and Orr were involved in that City centre incident recently. If you include Brooker being called in for quesstionning then 4 players that BT signed all drew a cloud of unwanted attention over the club.

His substitutions were at best bizarre and there were many games where we appeared devoid of tactical instruction.

All in all Brian Tinnion's managerial days were ones that cannot be forgotten soon enough. If thats harsh then I'm sorry but there is no room for sentiment in such situations.

Many people, myself included, were against the appointment of the man - Bristol City's fan base has huge expectation, perhaps it could even be touted as 'sleeping giant mentality', to appoint a man who had no managerial experience to such a pressured position was rather like leading a lamb to the slaughter. The only difference being that the shepard almost shared the lambs fate. The appointment of GJ has all but removed the memory of 'judge me on Brian.'

To be brutally honest I can not think of one positive that came from BT's time as manager. We failed to be promoted in his first season, a {realistic} goal set by both himself and chairman at the start of his reign (given the squad), and this season was nothing short of abysmal - looking back i honestly believe that if BT had been given this season we would have been in a relegation dog fight.

Some will say that the youngsters coming through the academy were due to BT. Let us not forget that these are the same youngsters that on a few occasions bore the brunt of his 'its not my fault we lost' post match interviews, dear God don't get me started on his 'I blame myself for picking them' comment!

It appears more clear than ever that the inclusion of the youngsters was largely based on his assertion, after the Port Vale game if memory serves, that 'he would be going out onto the pitch with 10 other lads who wanted to play for him and BCFC.'

The distinct lack of the aforementioned youngsters in the side since the arrival of GJ does much to suggest that they are not ready for first team football yet. Looking back just over a month ago, Keogh, Fortune, Golbourne and Gillespie all started on that fateful day in Swansea - seldom have they been seen since. Indeed the first 3, and also Jamie Smith, have all been overlooked by GJ who preferred to first bring in Sanfora and then Youga before calling on players who had played an important role in BT's time at the club.

The harsh reality is he failed to gain the respect of the players, he had little tactical nous, could not motivate the players and couldnt deal with the press, when all is said and done his time as manager was very poor.

The difference is already clear to see under the guidance of GJ. 2 nil down in no time at all today, under Tinnion we could have witnessed a massacre. Yes we are still defending poorly, and yes we are failing to take many of our chances, but I do think there is a distinct trust for the manager and his methods now whereas under BT there was anything but.

Perhaps more so for interrupting the GJ feel good factor at the club, the incident with the players in town was extremely regretable. Aside from the undeserved defeat at home to Hartlepool we were getting results, and then, out of the blue, 3 of you're starting 11 step out of line and are ruled out of the next game, suddenly the continuity is gone.

I cannot give a more honest assessment of the situation than this;

With BT in charge I honeslty think, looking back at the state we were in, a relegation battle was on the cards, with GJ in charge i expect us to fight for a play-off place and, ultimately, achieve one.

[Guest]

Top post; G.J is a manager and will sort it; Tinman was a good player but didnt have a clue as a manager and should never of been given the job in a panic move

[leadman]

I find it somewhat ironic that the one thing people consistently referred to when looking at the positives from the Tinnion era was his signings. And now we are confronted with the thought that maybe it was infact his transfers that let him down rather than his ability to motivate and tactically prepare a football team.

In his time as manager of this club Brian Tinnion demonstrated that, quite simply, he was not upto the job. Without having to be the most informed or knowledgable person in the world it is clear that his appointment was met with scepticism by a number of the playing staff, a scepticism that he failed to dispel throughout his time.

The notion that he rid the club of its 'bad apples' hit the preverbial fan when Partridge, Brown and Orr were involved in that City centre incident recently. If you include Brooker being called in for quesstionning then 4 players that BT signed all drew a cloud of unwanted attention over the club.

His substitutions were at best bizarre and there were many games where we appeared devoid of tactical instruction.

All in all Brian Tinnion's managerial days were ones that cannot be forgotten soon enough. If thats harsh then I'm sorry but there is no room for sentiment in such situations.

Many people, myself included, were against the appointment of the man - Bristol City's fan base has huge expectation, perhaps it could even be touted as 'sleeping giant mentality', to appoint a man who had no managerial experience to such a pressured position was rather like leading a lamb to the slaughter. The only difference being that the shepard almost shared the lambs fate. The appointment of GJ has all but removed the memory of 'judge me on Brian.'

To be brutally honest I can not think of one positive that came from BT's time as manager. We failed to be promoted in his first season, a {realistic} goal set by both himself and chairman at the start of his reign (given the squad), and this season was nothing short of abysmal - looking back i honestly believe that if BT had been given this season we would have been in a relegation dog fight.

Some will say that the youngsters coming through the academy were due to BT. Let us not forget that these are the same youngsters that on a few occasions bore the brunt of his 'its not my fault we lost' post match interviews, dear God don't get me started on his 'I blame myself for picking them' comment!

It appears more clear than ever that the inclusion of the youngsters was largely based on his assertion, after the Port Vale game if memory serves, that 'he would be going out onto the pitch with 10 other lads who wanted to play for him and BCFC.'

The distinct lack of the aforementioned youngsters in the side since the arrival of GJ does much to suggest that they are not ready for first team football yet. Looking back just over a month ago, Keogh, Fortune, Golbourne and Gillespie all started on that fateful day in Swansea - seldom have they been seen since. Indeed the first 3, and also Jamie Smith, have all been overlooked by GJ who preferred to first bring in Sanfora and then Youga before calling on players who had played an important role in BT's time at the club.

The harsh reality is he failed to gain the respect of the players, he had little tactical nous, could not motivate the players and couldnt deal with the press, when all is said and done his time as manager was very poor.

The difference is already clear to see under the guidance of GJ. 2 nil down in no time at all today, under Tinnion we could have witnessed a massacre. Yes we are still defending poorly, and yes we are failing to take many of our chances, but I do think there is a distinct trust for the manager and his methods now whereas under BT there was anything but.

Perhaps more so for interrupting the GJ feel good factor at the club, the incident with the players in town was extremely regretable. Aside from the undeserved defeat at home to Hartlepool we were getting results, and then, out of the blue, 3 of you're starting 11 step out of line and are ruled out of the next game, suddenly the continuity is gone.

I cannot give a more honest assessment of the situation than this;

With BT in charge I honeslty think, looking back at the state we were in, a relegation battle was on the cards, with GJ in charge i expect us to fight for a play-off place and, ultimately, achieve one.

well said sir

today would indeed be a slaughter, you just sort of knew the game was not dead.

[shepton red]

Move on, he has departed. This is a pointless thread. We will only know if he is/was a good manager after his next appointment, if he decides to stay in coaching.

[Guest bristolbred]

Maybe the players Tins signed were good, but they couldn't work together as a team?

But they could work together by brining the Club bad press!!.

I bet Gary Johnson must be thinking;

"God!, why did i come here??".

Mind you though, one funny from yesterday,

Yeovil Fans seen chanting to the Forest Fans,

"You're going down with the City!".

[NATCHER]

Was he such a bad manager?

Well, the current man in charge says of the team he has inherited......"There's no professionalism, passion or pace".

I think that sums it up quite neatly, yes, Tinnion was, such a bad manager!!!!!!!!!!!!!!