Guest Old Dazzler Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Quote from Scott Brown after yesterday's game, "I didn't affect the game as much as I would have liked".What an interesting concept and a good psychological tool. The idea that a player is actually picked to play for a football team, not just to run around like a headless chicken, but to do take the responibility for making things happen that would cause the opposition problems, and even cause his team to achieve the desired result. So after all the old cliches, we have a (comparatively) new cliche. I just have this feeling that GJs idea of every player "affecting the game" is going to result in virtually every post-match interview with a player basically being a summary of how that individual felt that they "affected the game".I know its late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Quote from Scott Brown after yesterday's game, "I didn't affect the game as much as I would have liked".What an interesting concept and a good psychological tool. The idea that a player is actually picked to play for a football team, not just to run around like a headless chicken, but to do take the responibility for making things happen that would cause the opposition problems, and even cause his team to achieve the desired result. So after all the old cliches, we have a (comparatively) new cliche. I just have this feeling that GJs idea of every player "affecting the game" is going to result in virtually every post-match interview with a player basically being a summary of how that individual felt that they "affected the game".I know its late!Or maybe his target audience wasn't intended to be the most cynical amongst us, and Scott really was disappointed that he didn't take the game by the scruff of the neck because he has high standards for himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Scott Brown had a good game out of position again. Couldn't fault his effort and he scored. Wish the rest of them cared as much as he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BeNeRz Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Scott Brown had a good game out of position again. Couldn't fault his effort and he scored. Wish the rest of them cared as much as he did.Shows the kids got heart n Passion for football and Bristol City..Thats what some of our players are lackin at this point in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike11 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Quote from Scott Brown after yesterday's game, "I didn't affect the game as much as I would have liked".What an interesting concept and a good psychological tool. The idea that a player is actually picked to play for a football team, not just to run around like a headless chicken, but to do take the responibility for making things happen that would cause the opposition problems, and even cause his team to achieve the desired result. So after all the old cliches, we have a (comparatively) new cliche. I just have this feeling that GJs idea of every player "affecting the game" is going to result in virtually every post-match interview with a player basically being a summary of how that individual felt that they "affected the game".I know its late!Players cant win with fans like you can they?Old dazzler?Old Fart more like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maidenheadred Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Shows the kids got heart n Passion for football and Bristol City..Thats what some of our players are lackin at this point in time... same kid who was arrested outside a nightclub when he had training the next day. Don't believe the hype - it's easy to come up with a couple of choice words to keep the fans happy - but if he really cared, he wouldnt have taken the pI 55 two weeks ago. I believe this carp when I see results - and i stop seeing/hearing about the players on the lash all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 ... same kid who was arrested outside a nightclub when he had training the next day. Don't believe the hype - it's easy to come up with a couple of choice words to keep the fans happy - but if he really cared, he wouldnt have taken the pI 55 two weeks ago. I believe this carp when I see results - and i stop seeing/hearing about the players on the lash all the time. If the rumours are true then Scott Brown isnt the smartest thing in the book and I think he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe a case of wanting to fit in with the older ones and therefore didnt want to say no to going out, and was then caught up in the unfortunate actions of others. Only my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ashtonyate Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Shows the kids got heart n Passion for football and Bristol City..Thats what some of our players are lackin at this point in timeIt all so shows that journeymen can have a good feeling for the clubs a lot of fans just think that players who come from another club are just here for a easy ride. Thats not true it all down to the player and up to our manager to do the home work on the player to find out what he really like.I just wonder if the overall factor is who will come cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 ... same kid who was arrested outside a nightclub when he had training the next day. Don't believe the hype - it's easy to come up with a couple of choice words to keep the fans happy - but if he really cared, he wouldnt have taken the pI 55 two weeks ago. I believe this carp when I see results - and i stop seeing/hearing about the players on the lash all the time.No...........they actually had the follwing day off, so he didn't actually have training the next day, not that it makes it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTop Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Quote from Scott Brown after yesterday's game, "I didn't affect the game as much as I would have liked".What an interesting concept and a good psychological tool. The idea that a player is actually picked to play for a football team, not just to run around like a headless chicken, but to do take the responibility for making things happen that would cause the opposition problems, and even cause his team to achieve the desired result. So after all the old cliches, we have a (comparatively) new cliche. I just have this feeling that GJs idea of every player "affecting the game" is going to result in virtually every post-match interview with a player basically being a summary of how that individual felt that they "affected the game".I know its late!I guess it shows that GJ has got the players thinking along the lines he wants - i.e. in terms of affecting the game.I thought ScottB was excellent at Oldham. If we'd had 11 players affecting the game the way he did we'd have taken three points. The closest Carey came to affecting the game was holding it up when he walked off the pitch while being substituted. Surely Orr's got to play right back from now on. Cotterill is a good player but not a centre forward. In that position he barely 'affects the game'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cidergeorge Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I taught at Scott's school in Crosby. Although I didn't teach Scott, I have a few ex-colleagues who did and some of those were 'pure toffee'. They all rated Scott highly back then, as a good example of Everton's Academy for his ability and mental attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city_pete Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Unbelievable the lad made a mistake has had his warning, some people would perfer he was sacked, he did wrong has been punished, "drinking in the last chance saloon," he has always given 100% in my eyes, now that he has his first goal I believe he will score double figures this season, I believe he should play every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest swindlered Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Scott Brown nearly lost his way in football altogether. Released by Everton and eventually on a month to month deal here after failing to get a deal on a previous trial. Always tears around the pitch like a maniac. I'd like to believe that he values the chance to play first team football at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The_Boy Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I like the fact that the guy clearly is enjoying playing at city and wants to improve himself and the team as a whole. When a player says something like that and fans still criticise him then its just beyond belief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I tend to disregard pretty much everything footballers say in interviews.On the pitch, Scott Brown has put in 100% in every game I've seen him play. That's a lot more than I've seen from some of his teammates.Keep it up Scott, and the whole arrest thing will be history very quickly.Nibor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redphilc Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I like the fact that the guy clearly is enjoying playing at city and wants to improve himself and the team as a whole. When a player says something like that and fans still criticise him then its just beyond belief! I think the club should pay to let his uncle, gran, mum, dad, brother, little sister, auntie, grandad, brother in law etc. come and watch every game he plays in..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Bristols Cider Army Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Quote from Scott Brown after yesterday's game, "I didn't affect the game as much as I would have liked".What an interesting concept and a good psychological tool. The idea that a player is actually picked to play for a football team, not just to run around like a headless chicken, but to do take the responibility for making things happen that would cause the opposition problems, and even cause his team to achieve the desired result. So after all the old cliches, we have a (comparatively) new cliche. I just have this feeling that GJs idea of every player "affecting the game" is going to result in virtually every post-match interview with a player basically being a summary of how that individual felt that they "affected the game".I know its late!I can't believe you are having a go at Scott Brown, if other players at the club played with the commitment he does then we wouldn't be in the position we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I like Scott a lot, and personally think that he is one of the best footballers we have in the squad at the moment.When does his contract actually expire? I thought that he signed a two year deal in the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Bristols Cider Army Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I like Scott a lot, and personally think that he is one of the best footballers we have in the squad at the moment.When does his contract actually expire? I thought that he signed a two year deal in the summer?TAZ I agree, we should defo do all we can to keep him, I think you are right though, he did sign a new contract in the summer. I don't think he has anything to worry about. Great goal he scored at the weekend too!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 TAZ I agree, we should defo do all we can to keep him, I think you are right though, he did sign a new contract in the summer. I don't think he has anything to worry about. Great goal he scored at the weekend too!!!!!! I'd like to see him playin at Ashton Gate for many years to come. Of all the infamous fight club, he's doing the best so far to win back the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Bristols Cider Army Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I'd like to see him playin at Ashton Gate for many years to come. Of all the infamous fight club, he's doing the best so far to win back the fans.Yep I agree and how much of the imfamous punch up was he actually involved in. So far he's my player of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Quote from Scott Brown after yesterday's game, "I didn't affect the game as much as I would have liked".What an interesting concept and a good psychological tool. The idea that a player is actually picked to play for a football team, not just to run around like a headless chicken, but to do take the responibility for making things happen that would cause the opposition problems, and even cause his team to achieve the desired result. So after all the old cliches, we have a (comparatively) new cliche. I just have this feeling that GJs idea of every player "affecting the game" is going to result in virtually every post-match interview with a player basically being a summary of how that individual felt that they "affected the game".I know its late!I reckon there is a fair chance it will enter the Oxford English Book of Quotes. Affect the Game - sounds so American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Old Dazzler Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I can't believe you are having a go at Scott Brown, if other players at the club played with the commitment he does then we wouldn't be in the position we are now. I can't find anything in my post that indicates that I am having a go at Scott Brown. The point I was trying to make (and obviously failed miserably) was that a new manager has come in with a few choice cliches, or "management -speak" as its known in the workplace.The most used of these is "affecting the game". This is a re-hashed version of "making things happen". I think it works well - better than Tinman's "we must work harder in training and we'll be giving 110% in the next game". I found it slighly amusing that a player used it in a post-match interview if for no other reason than it appears that the manager's "mantra" appears to be sticking in the players' minds, and made a tongue-in-cheek observation that all future post-match interviews could feature an out of ten rating of how the playerthey "affected the game".If people thought that I was criticising Scott or GJ in any way then I suggest that they start reading posts properly and re-read it if they don't understand first time - I would have made a similar posting if any player had said it. It was an observation about the way that a manager "affects" (Oh god!) his staff. How it ended up being a debate about Scott as a player or person is beyond me - but that's the beauty of this forum!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Scott must have read this last week, no doubt about it!LINK: http://bristolcity.rivals.net/default.asp?...=2&stid=8394399 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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