Red Robin Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 GJ you have to take some stick,the team is playing far worse under your guidance than under Tinmans and that was bad.This is as bad as the BL days I'm afraid.GJ your loan signing are nowt special infact I would go as far as saying no better than what we got.You have to take some responcibility with this lot,that football is dire,the players are dire.As for the morons in the ateyo trying to pick fights with the dolman boys leaving early grow up tenny boppers you might end up with egg on your face.As things stand GJ has got the january window to help him out,however after that you will be judged on your own players then.As it stands we are going down with a very very poor football squad.Once again stewey has done nowt and is a luxery this club can ill afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westex red Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Top shout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 hey.you mean the benny team that outplayed brum,bolton,ipswitch, i think you should change the word benny for ward, benny was our best coach in recent years, ask the players like jim brennan and ade ak, 4.7 million pounds worth of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tales From The Front Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 hey.you mean the benny team that outplayed brum,bolton,ipswitch, i think you should change the word benny for ward, benny was our best coach in recent years, ask the players like jim brennan and ade ak, 4.7 million pounds worth of players.Spot ON Leadman!This guy has been made scape goat by to many over the years. I certainly remember enjoying the games he was in charge of. Portsmouth away certainly a highlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Spot ON Leadman!This guy has been made scape goat by to many over the years. I certainly remember enjoying the games he was in charge of. Portsmouth away certainly a highlight.How about home to Wolves? Lost 6-1. The mascot fight was good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E Block Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Spot ON Leadman!This guy has been made scape goat by to many over the years. I certainly remember enjoying the games he was in charge of. Portsmouth away certainly a highlight.Fantastic coach, bit of a hic up at the start (wolves, Bradford) them some great football but we were already down (£100m spent on strikers and nothing on defence springs to mind). We had some great players and true BCFC football, pass and go etcI really enjoyed his spell and was gutted when he left in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad48 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 GJ you have to take some stick,the team is playing far worse under your guidance than under Tinmans and that was bad.This is as bad as the BL days I'm afraid.and we made a mistake then by sacking and not backing Benny, so lets not make the same mistake again, keep GJ and one day we will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest footballs red Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 DEAR RED ROBIN, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHY YOU COME ON TO THIS FORUM AND SLAG EVERY1 OFF? AND YOUR DIG ABOUT US LOYAL FANS WHO WERE HAVING A GO OUT THE FANS THAT WERE LEAVING EARLY WAS ONE OF THESE YOU? PLSEASE KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!! GIVE THE FORUM A REST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 DEAR RED ROBIN, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHY YOU COME ON TO THIS FORUM AND SLAG EVERY1 OFF? AND YOUR DIG ABOUT US LOYAL FANS WHO WERE HAVING A GO OUT THE FANS THAT WERE LEAVING EARLY WAS ONE OF THESE YOU? PLSEASE KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!! GIVE THE FORUM A RESTPerhaps he should go back to net centre and start going on the Forest board saying we will be champions again...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh red Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 GJ you have to take some stick,the team is playing far worse under your guidance than under Tinmans and that was bad.This is as bad as the BL days I'm afraid.GJ your loan signing are nowt special infact I would go as far as saying no better than what we got.You have to take some responcibility with this lot,that football is dire,the players are dire.As for the morons in the ateyo trying to pick fights with the dolman boys leaving early grow up tenny boppers you might end up with egg on your face.As things stand GJ has got the january window to help him out,however after that you will be judged on your own players then.As it stands we are going down with a very very poor football squad.Once again stewey has done nowt and is a luxery this club can ill afford.yeah, but at least then we were at a higher level, with some excellent players, a proven goalscorer and we were playing well, at least then we were also playing well and sometimes not getting what we deserved, where as now we have nothing! Benny was great for this club and helped lay foundations for years to come he was great for players like Brennan, Murray, Hill and Phillips!I miss benny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Agree Benny was awful, the bloke didnt have a clue about English Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Agree Benny was awful, the bloke didnt have a clue about English Football.like you then.you must of enjoyed the 2nd half of that season, it was gripping, we were very entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 GJ you have to take some stick,the team is playing far worse under your guidance than under Tinmans and that was bad.This is as bad as the BL days I'm afraid.GJ your loan signing are nowt special infact I would go as far as saying no better than what we got.You have to take some responcibility with this lot,that football is dire,the players are dire.As for the morons in the ateyo trying to pick fights with the dolman boys leaving early grow up tenny boppers you might end up with egg on your face.As things stand GJ has got the january window to help him out,however after that you will be judged on your own players then.As it stands we are going down with a very very poor football squad.Once again stewey has done nowt and is a luxery this club can ill afford.Benny : Probably the worst manager in the clubs history, ohh how time clouds the memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest weaselfeatures Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Benny : Probably the worst manager in the clubs history, ohh how time clouds the memoryNot probably, he WAS the biggest disaster to hit the club. What was it 21 games without a win?And just to think John Ward had to make way for that knobhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest purnell Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 What was it 21 games without a win?Just a small point, but on the back of Saturday's game (and that last 7) where can you see our next win coming from? How long before it's 21 without a win? (The obvious answer of course being 14 more games, but you know what I mean) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 my god, what a bunch of thick ***** you all are, benny was a top coach who got the best out of a poor team, after the players had performed in 1 game all season(bolton on the box), we competed with every team in the division, west brom for gods sakes, brum at home, bolton away, ipswitch at home, sunderland at home, ward spent all our money on strikers oh and the great carl hutchins, hows about julian watts, a worst defender than the c*** we have now, did any ofyou actually attend a game during the period, if you did then you are all blind.when did we next see the great benny, oh thats right, turfing chelsea out the ueffa cup with little viking stavanger, wake up smell the coffee benny was a great coach, find a player who was with city then, they will tell you.don't forget brennan, ward trying to give him to the gas for nothing, we sold him after benny sorted him out for £1 million, nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 ... the bloke didnt have a clue about English Football.English football? ... would that be the players he saw throwing up drunk on the training pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thefirstknowle Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Did any of you Benny-haters actually go to any of his games? Ignore the oft-cited opening two games unless that is you expected him to transform the team in three hours? By about the fourth or fifth game in, we were playing really nice football, the kids were being brought through and it was certainly the best technical football Ive ever seen at the club, totally outplaying teams and then getting some ridiculous bad luck. The West Brom away game (where Ivan got injured) sticks out a mile as the perfect example of this.Surely the best evidence of a coaches ability, particularly if he is given only half a season to turn around a bottom-of-the-table side is the standard of football that his teams plays and we were playing great, passing footie but were making silly mistakes. And with every game, we were making fewer and fewer mistakes.Eventually Benny would have weeded out all the water-treaders in the dressing room and instilled a really good professional ethic throughout the club and with that would have come the results and thus the success.But because of the fickle fans that have a vocal majority at this club, the board got the shakes and gave Benny L the push, despite obvious massive improvements on the pitch.Sometimes, particularly in the first part of a managers reign, you have to look beyond results and be a little more intelligent.Engage brain benny bashers. He was by some distance the best manager I have seen in my 20 years as a fan. And to that regard, I think there are improvements under GJ in certain aspects (although the improvement is not as clear as it was under super Benny and there are still some huge problems that don't seem to be being fixed.) Given what happened to Benny, I think that GJ should be given plenty more time. He is obviously a very capable coach (compared to most other coashes out there his record is excellent) and so we should all back him whilst he sorts things out. Laziness besets this club and it is going to take ages to change the mentality and give us a sound foundation to move forward.All the best-run clubs in britain show loyalty to their manager. The worst sack their manager after his first 20 disappointing results, leaving a new manager just 20 games with the same rubbish squad. Back GJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Not probably, he WAS the biggest disaster to hit the club. What was it 21 games without a win?And just to think John Ward had to make way for that knobheadWhen Ward left his team had conceded 31 goals in 16 games for a return of 15pts - very, very similar to our current plight. Lennartsson had to bomb out uncooperative players on loan, then regroup around what was left - the young, the ambitious and the willing-to-learn of all ages - he brought defensive organisation and only failed to avoid the drop for want of someone he could trust to convert chances into goals. It was a dark day when the board approached Pulis and so denied Lennartsson the chance to prepare a squad for a season, because it locked us in to "English football" and all of its self-indulgent, ignorant excesses. This faith in "English football" has blown up in our faces big-time this season and make no mistake the challenge facing Gary Johnson is the same as faced Lennartsson - get rid of the untrustworthy, tighten up the defence and hope that those players you do trust will deliver enough points to keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Re Benny - Capable coach, nice guy, but needed a good organiser alongside him. As I recall, the defence improved once Shail recovered from injury. As I recall, we played nice football, but lacked organisation, AND we got relegated.The so-called improvements under GJ are very well hidden, sorry, no matter how much you back GJ, that statement does not hold up to scrutiny. Can that be backed up with anything more than the 'Got rid of wasters' nonsense? As far as I can see, the same faults are there as when he joined, except that now we have no strikers and are like Centre Backs R Us. And the team is even more de-motivated than it was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westex red Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I still have this feeling Benny would have sorted it, if you spoke to him he was top class, loved City, brought in Philips and other youngsters at the time, he was a good bloke, and all the back room staff had major respect for the guy, always joked about but he liked City big time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 it was another boardroom disaster.offloading benny was bad enough, but we were fed some cock and bull story that soren anderson wanted off, he came out after is move and said he didnt want to go and that he was asked to find another club, soren would have bagged plenty of goals.even without ade,brennan,bo anderson(why did he go) and seebok we would have had a top striker for the 2nd division, i know we had to cut the wage bill but some of the offloads were just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh_red Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Not probably, he WAS the biggest disaster to hit the club. What was it 21 games without a win?And just to think John Ward had to make way for that knobheadsome people..............ward quit because he threw his toys out of the pram after he publically admitted he didn't know what to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Benny, Cluelss and Tinnion, our three worst managers EVER...............and we wonder why we're in the kack??Benny good??? Youre having a laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest weaselfeatures Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 some people..............ward quit because he threw his toys out of the pram after he publically admitted he didn't know what to do!I met John Wards son in law recently and he told me the reason he quit was because he was threatened by Scott Davidson that either he had to work with, and take orders from barmy Benny or leave the club. That is not throwing toys out of the pram, in hindsight he did the correct thing. He did tell me also that John however still holds a deep affection for City.Benny, Cluelss and Tinnion, our three worst managers EVER...............and we wonder why we're in the kack??Benny good??? Youre having a laugh Correct, and you have their uselessness in the correct order!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest revkev Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Looks like we'll have to wait a while til GJ gets to throw his baseball cap into the crowd.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadman Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 this thread goes to show how blind and stupid some people are about there own football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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