Johnsons Signings Actually Haven't Been Bad!

[Guest AndyKat87]

First there was Sankofa - Played well at the start, ok form dipped but can see he has talent highly thought of at Charlton.

Kelly Youga - I don't know why people are saying hes rubbish hes good in my books, better left back than Woodman, Another Charlton youngster and former Lyon player, must have some pedigree hey?

James Quinn - May have done a job but unfortunately didn't, he did for Sheff Wed last season and they got promoted. This is the only player I don't like out of his signings.

Marc Joseph - Looked good to me on his debut against Swindon was in League one promoted team last season so has been there and done it! Whats so bad about Joseph? Nothing! He has to play alongside Heywood!! Thats whats bad!!!!

Noble - Very talented youngster with alot of pedigree, I have seen him play and he's got a touch of class about him, we need a player like this and he is better than Wilkshire and Skuse for me, a good signing

So what is actually bad about these signings apart from Quinn, Get off Johnsons back I think they are good signings if anything and he knows what he's doing and being able to pull off the Noble signing will be a major boost! So get behind him, he hasn't done alot wrong in my book.

[gazareth]

Joseph had abysmal positional sense on Saturday and made several key mistakes. That said, he's apparently a right back and so it's no surprise that he's not looking comfortable.

How about playing players in their preferred position from the get-go? I've lost count of the number of potentially useful players that we've wasted because they've been played in the wrong position (Thorpe in midfield under Lennartsson, Soren Andersen on the left, Wilkshire on the right under Wilson, Smith on the left under Tinnion etc).

Youga is poor. I can't see anything about his defensive play that's any better than Woodman or Golbourne and he fails completely with the basics of distribution.

[Guest AndyKat87]

Joseph had abysmal positional sense on Saturday and made several key mistakes. That said, he's apparently a right back and so it's no surprise that he's not looking comfortable.

How about playing players in their preferred position from the get-go? I've lost count of the number of potentially useful players that we've wasted because they've been played in the wrong position (Thorpe in midfield under Lennartsson, Soren Andersen on the left, Wilkshire on the right under Wilson, Smith on the left under Tinnion etc).

Youga is poor. I can't see anything about his defensive play that's any better than Woodman or Golbourne and he fails completely with the basics of distribution.

Wasn't there on saturday so didn't get to cast my eye over Joseph, that bad hey, saw the goals looked like Heywood couldnt cope with Larkins pace. I would like to see Golbourne back I agree on that.

[samo]

Soren Andersen

Christ, we could do with a player like him again! A bit long in the tooth when he arrived, but mobile, powerful and with the guile to produce something out of nothing. The two goals of his I remember best are his stunner at C Palace and his header at home to Bury. One sheer class, the other the result of a gritty physical display. One of my favourite forwards for city in the last decade and much underrated IMHO. Ah, the memories...

[gazareth]

Yeah, he was brilliant but spent most of the season playing on the left wing while - bizarrely - Steve Torpey occupied the striking berth alongside Akinbiyi.

[samo]

Yeah, he was brilliant but spent most of the season playing on the left wing while - bizarrely - Steve Torpey occupied the striking berth alongside Akinbiyi.

yeah. the one time we get to a higher level, where footballing intelligence can actually pay, we went straight to the 'big man, little man' tactic (although ade wasn't exactly a diminuative presence). to give torpey his due he always tried till he was exausted, and was one of the few players who looked better later on under pulis! i can even remember him putting a 20 yarder in off the cross bar in a 3-1 win over reading at ashton!

[Bristol Boy]

First there was Sankofa - Played well at the start, ok form dipped but can see he has talent highly thought of at Charlton.

One good game against Barnsley and to lightweight for this Division.Charltons opinion is irrelevant and they're not getting beat by Chesterfield & Southend.

Kelly Youga - I don't know why people are saying hes rubbish hes good in my books, better left back than Woodman,

Nonsense.Based on what??

Another Charlton youngster and former Lyon player, must have some pedigree hey?

Gus Ceaser was ex Arsenal-Nuff said.

James Quinn - May have done a job but unfortunately didn't, he did for Sheff Wed last season and they got promoted. This is the only player I don't like out of his signings.

Could even get in the team towards the end and seems more interested in NI than BCFC.Not good enough.

Marc Joseph - Looked good to me on his debut against Swindon was in League one promoted team last season so has been there and done it! Whats so bad about Joseph? Nothing! He has to play alongside Heywood!! Thats whats bad!!!!

He's not better than Keogh & Carey who was also in side promoted to the Championship-BCFC

Noble - Very talented youngster with alot of pedigree, I have seen him play and he's got a touch of class about him, we need a player like this and he is better than Wilkshire and Skuse for me, a good signing

Let's hope so and wait and see.

So what is actually bad about these signings apart from Quinn, Get off Johnsons back I think they are good signings if anything and he knows what he's doing and being able to pull off the Noble signing will be a major boost! So get behind him, he hasn't done alot wrong in my book.

Jesus Christ Man what about eight defeats out of eleven games??? That's good is it!!

Loan Signings need to be a SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT ON WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY, and this lot aren't-HENCE THE RUN OF SEVEN, YES SEVEN, STRAIGHT DEFEATS AND OUR WORST RUN OF FORM IN 35 YEARS

[Rob k]

Jesus Christ Man what about eight defeats out of eleven games??? That's good is it!!

Loan Signings need to be a SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT ON WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY, and this lot aren't-HENCE THE RUN OF SEVEN, YES SEVEN, STRAIGHT DEFEATS AND OUR WORST RUN OF FORM IN 35 YEARS

When are people going to realise that we are not going to get Good loan signings at this time of the year, clubs wont loan good players as they are needed in their own squad, Personally i think he has brought in this loan players to shake the squad up, i don't think they are any better than we already had.

[aa_bcfc]

Jesus Christ Man what about eight defeats out of eleven games??? That's good is it!!

Loan Signings need to be a SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT ON WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY, and this lot aren't-HENCE THE RUN OF SEVEN, YES SEVEN, STRAIGHT DEFEATS AND OUR WORST RUN OF FORM IN 35 YEARS

Agreed 100%

God help us if the loan signings are a sample of the players GJ thinks are improvements. Like it or not, since he has been bringing in the useless twatts things have got consistantly worse.

[Pickle Rick]

Noble - Very talented youngster with alot of pedigree, I have seen him play and he's got a touch of class about him, we need a player like this and he is better than Wilkshire and Skuse for me, a good signing

True!

[mozo]

Jesus Christ Man what about eight defeats out of eleven games??? That's good is it!!

Loan Signings need to be a SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT ON WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY, and this lot aren't-HENCE THE RUN OF SEVEN, YES SEVEN, STRAIGHT DEFEATS AND OUR WORST RUN OF FORM IN 35 YEARS

Why? Why do loan signings have to be a 'significant improvement'? Any improvement will do in our dire rabble.

'Significant'...why?!

They come in looking for a contract and they aren't going throught the emotional turmoil that our current rabble are going through. That might, in any manager's mind, make enough of a difference. Sankofa has mainly been praised and Youga has been hot and cold. Quinn was brought in when we had no target men, there's a method in that madness.

What's the alternative exactly???

[Alex_BCFC]

Why? Why do loan signings have to be a 'significant improvement'? Any improvement will do in our dire rabble.

'Significant'...why?!

They come in looking for a contract and they aren't going throught the emotional turmoil that our current rabble are going through. That might, in any manager's mind, make enough of a difference. Sankofa has mainly been praised and Youga has been hot and cold. Quinn was brought in when we had no target men, there's a method in that madness.

What's the alternative exactly???

Despite Youga not being great, I still think he is better than and Woodman/Fortune. He was seriously troubled on either game IMO but unfortunately the other 3 defenders against Chesterfield decided to play badly, especially Heywood, who i couldn't fault until then. In general the loan signings have been OK but probably all he could do. People moaned Quinn wasn't on the bench on Saturday. Apart from being ill, those slating Johnson for this were also some of the people saying he should never win. From this you can see that Johnson can't win whatever he does!

[Guest AndyKat87]

Jesus Christ Man what about eight defeats out of eleven games??? That's good is it!!

Loan Signings need to be a SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT ON WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY, and this lot aren't-HENCE THE RUN OF SEVEN, YES SEVEN, STRAIGHT DEFEATS AND OUR WORST RUN OF FORM IN 35 YEARS

ye ok, like you know alot Keogh hadnt played a first team game for Stoke, Joseph is better than him, I never said Quinn was good, Kelly Youga is not THAT bad Woodman is awful, theres an improvement already, Sankofa didn't play bad up until the Oldham game and was banned for the last one where we shipped 4 goals. He's better than Heywood. Too lightweight for our division ok, so if he gets in the Charlton team in the future will he be too lightweight to handle Emile Heskey? Nothing to do with that, lightweight is Cole Skuse, Joseph and Sankofa ARE an improvement on Heywood, Clayton fortune, Keogh, Carey maybe even Partridge. The 8 defeats in 11 were without Joseph to be fair to him. And as i said Noble is quality, The run of dfefeats is not down to the loan players its down to the wasters already here!

[Chappers]

I just saw the headline, and wondered if I was on the wrong Board. The signings have been AWFUL. Sankofa is OK, but learning, and there is no hope that Charlton will release him, so that is to their benefit. Sorry, Youga is no better than Woodman, and in any case, left back was hardly the most pressing problem. Joseph is OK, but I think we have enough average centre-backs already. Quinn was just pointless, we needed a mobile striker.

Nothing against the individuals concerned, but they were not in the right positions, and quite frankly, added absolutely NOTHING to the team, and no matter how you look at it, the results don't lie!

I reserve judgement on the latest signings, but he seems to be looking for a whole new side, and doing this in mid-season does seem an un-necessary risk. Time will tell.....

[Jay]

I just saw the headline, and wondered if I was on the wrong Board. The signings have been AWFUL. Sankofa is OK, but learning, and there is no hope that Charlton will release him, so that is to their benefit. Sorry, Youga is no better than Woodman, and in any case, left back was hardly the most pressing problem. Joseph is OK, but I think we have enough average centre-backs already. Quinn was just pointless, we needed a mobile striker.

Nothing against the individuals concerned, but they were not in the right positions, and quite frankly, added absolutely NOTHING to the team, and no matter how you look at it, the results don't lie!

I reserve judgement on the latest signings, but he seems to be looking for a whole new side, and doing this in mid-season does seem an un-necessary risk. Time will tell.....

I think this is the so-called 'transitional' period that we are in. Personally, I don't like it - it make me feel uneasy for the rest of the team!

[Bristol Boy]

Personally i think he has brought in this loan players to shake the squad up, i don't think they are any better than we already had.

Well he's certainly bugg***d the results up, never mind shook the players up and you're right about the quality of the loan players

[Alex_BCFC]

Well he's certainly bugg***d the results up, never mind shook the players up and you're right about the quality of the loan players

Who's buggered the results up? Tinnion. Certainly isn't Johnson's fault. Loans have been OK- nothing special but I only expect 1 or 2 of them to be perms.

[mozo]

I just saw the headline, and wondered if I was on the wrong Board. The signings have been AWFUL. Sankofa is OK, but learning, and there is no hope that Charlton will release him, so that is to their benefit. Sorry, Youga is no better than Woodman, and in any case, left back was hardly the most pressing problem. Joseph is OK, but I think we have enough average centre-backs already. Quinn was just pointless, we needed a mobile striker.

First you say they were awful signings then you say that two are okay.

You say we needed a mobile striker, but when Brooker was injured we needed a target man. Hence Quinn.

We did need defenders on loan because of injuries/suspensions to Heywood and Partridge.

You criticise their quality, and yet you have no knowledge of what the alternatives were, nor of the difficulties of a) finding loan players good enough to make a difference

b) of being a loan player that has to fit into a team that have all the wrong habits (ie losing, which they were doing a good job of for Tinnion and have shown Johnson the same courtesy).

[Bristol Boy]

ye ok, like you know alot

Well, it would appear I know just a bit more than you and I feel confident that will remain, at least, until you actually attend games

Keogh hadnt played a first team game for Stoke

So what?He played for us against Colchester and we kept a clean sheet

, Joseph is better than him,

Really? You say in another post that you didn't see him Saturday, so how would you know

Kelly Youga is not THAT bad Woodman is awful, theres an improvement already,

God almighty if that's the extent of your reasoning, this forum's doomed until there's an under 16's section.Even then you're wrong because I think Woodman is a far better full back.

Sankofa didn't play bad up until the Oldham game and was banned for the last one where we shipped 4 goals. He's better than Heywood. Too lightweight for our division ok, so if he gets in the Charlton team in the future will he be too lightweight to handle Emile Heskey?

A few points.He doesn't get in the Charlton team and won't on what I've seen.He has had one good game-Barnsley.Being better than Heywood is hardly a great recomendation for a Premiership Player and yes, Emile Heskey would murder him.

The only way he could play would be as a "sweeper" in a central three, where he could utilise his pace.In a flat back four, especially away, he gets slaughtered, which is why GJ played him RB at Swindon-WHERE HE GOT SENT OFF- and played Joseph at CB.

Nothing to do with that, lightweight is Cole Skuse, Joseph and Sankofa ARE an improvement on Heywood, Clayton fortune, Keogh, Carey maybe even Partridge.

No they aren't and that's part of the problem and what's Cole Skuse got to do with Sankofa???

The 8 defeats in 11 were without Joseph to be fair to him.

Er, what about Swindon & Chesterfield

And as i said Noble is quality,

And, as I said, let's hope so and see

The run of dfefeats is not down to the loan players its down to the wasters already here!

I'm now convinced you don't actually get to see many games because.......well, you talk nonsense and sound a bit daft.

No one is saying that the players already here are great, far from it.

What I am saying is that, IF WE BRING IN LOAN PLAYERS, they need to be an improvement on those we already have and, for a team that's 23rd, A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, because a little better than 23rd could be 21st and that still takes us down with the Gas.

[Bristol Boy]

Who's buggered the results up? Tinnion. Certainly isn't Johnson's fault. Loans have been OK- nothing special but I only expect 1 or 2 of them to be perms.

Hang On.

Tinnions performance was poor, as was the squad he assembled in the main and he was sacked

Read GJ's record.

P11 L8 W3

Everyone, including me, was convinced that we'd turned the corner after wins against Brentford & Barnsley-GJ was given AND took, the plaudits.

There were no loan players at Brentford and only Sankofa against Barnsley.In other words the squad was the same "rubbish" that Tinnion had assembled.

I've always conceeded that he's had bad luck with inuries, suspensions and town boy thuggery, however, he's introduced Sankofa, Youga,Quinn & Joseph, loaned out seven players.........and the results have got worse, to the point where we seem incapable of winning as soon as we go behind or even if the opposition score and we're all talking about relegation.

Neither he nor Millen, Walsh and the other staff can claim credit for improving things, can they?

You can't have it both ways.He/They, can't be a hero & genius when things are going right and then be blameless when things go wrong.

[Alex_BCFC]

Hang On.

Tinnions performance was poor, as was the squad he assembled in the main and he was sacked

Read GJ's record.

P11 L8 W3

Everyone, including me, was convinced that we'd turned the corner after wins against Brentford & Barnsley-GJ was given AND took, the plaudits.

There were no loan players at Brentford and only Sankofa against Barnsley.In other words the squad was the same "rubbish" that Tinnion had assembled.

I've always conceeded that he's had bad luck with inuries, suspensions and town boy thuggery, however, he's introduced Sankofa, Youga,Quinn & Joseph, loaned out seven players.........and the results have got worse, to the point where we seem incapable of winning as soon as we go behind or even if the opposition score and we're all talking about relegation.

Neither he nor Millen, Walsh and the other staff can claim credit for improving things, can they?

You can't have it both ways.He/They, can't be a hero & genius when things are going right and then be blameless when things go wrong.

I haven't had it both ways. I'll say what I have said every time. Those first few results/performances were the norm for a new manager. Unfortunately they can't cover up the long term problems Tinnion has left us like the lack of any kind of decent left sided players, no holding player, no pace upfront and arguably a very poor squad in general. You also highlight other things that weren't Johnson's fault like the injuries, suspensions etc. I think the loans haven't made us particualrly better but they haven't made us worse.

What was clear on Saturday two things for me. We dominated the first 2o mins until Brooker went off. Not anyone's fault but we didn't have a backup plan because the squad left by Tinnion is so bad that we heavily rely on Brooker.

Secondly, everytime we conceed we fall apart. Again I can really on put that on one man who has left us weak players and also young players who shouldn't be relied upon to get us out of it like they are having to do.

As far as I'm concerned, apart from the results (which will improve in time but we have to be patient) I have agreed with nearly everything Johnson has done.

[Atticus]

I'm sorry Bristol Boy but what are you on? the way your at it, it seems you just want to criticise every loan signing we make under Johnson.

I cant believe your already saying that Carey is better then Joseph? How many games has Carey played this season, where all he does is blast it up field to nobody aside the opposing team?

How many games has Joseph played for us? errrm yes thats right 2! and your already saying Carey and Keough are better?? How on earth do you make that assumption?

[megansdad]

so when does it stop being Tinnion's fault??

Johnson is the one who has selected the teams and he is the one that has failed to motivate the group of players at his disposal including one striker who was player of the year in a Championship promotion winning side. Yes he has ben unlucky with injuries but so was Tinnion, especially at Swansea but that seems to be conveniently forgotten.

IT is no longer Tinnions fault GJ is responsible and given his experience should have realised the difficulty in getting quality loanees and therefore concentrated on getting the best from what he had instead of dropping pointless(that's what we have been for seven games now) grenades!

[Alex_BCFC]

so when does it stop being Tinnion's fault??

Johnson is the one who has selected the teams and he is the one that has failed to motivate the group of players at his disposal including one striker who was player of the year in a Championship promotion winning side. Yes he has ben unlucky with injuries but so was Tinnion, especially at Swansea but that seems to be conveniently forgotten.

IT is no longer Tinnions fault GJ is responsible and given his experience should have realised the difficulty in getting quality loanees and therefore concentrated on getting the best from what he had instead of dropping pointless(that's what we have been for seven games now) grenades!

It's stops being Tinnion's fault when we have cleared out the crap he brought in, brought in the players he didn't even bother to replace (left winger, holding player, pacy striker, decent right or left backs) and Johnson has his own team. There is no point in having a striker like Stewart if you don't get any service and unfortunately Tinnion left us with a team that will provide almost zero service.

[Bristol Boy]

Why? Why do loan signings have to be a 'significant improvement'? Any improvement will do in our dire rabble.

'Significant'...why?!

They come in looking for a contract and they aren't going throught the emotional turmoil that our current rabble are going through. That might, in any manager's mind, make enough of a difference. Sankofa has mainly been praised and Youga has been hot and cold. Quinn was brought in when we had no target men, there's a method in that madness.

What's the alternative exactly???

Glad to explain and it's really quite simple.

1.We could improve slightly and still get relegated.

2.Unless we improve significantly, we won't sell 7,000+ season tickets next year and that will mean any decent players moving on.

3.The expectation level at AG this season and next, is significant and, if not met, will result in falling attendances and yet another manager departing.

4.Beleaguered Shareholders (Financiers) won't keep on stumping up money for old rope!

Our "current rabbles," emotional state is hardly likely to be improved by seeing someone of the same SUB standard take their place, hence they will not improve.

I Judge defenders/players away from home and Sankofa has in no way cut the mustard and isn't a significant or minor improvement on Keogh or Carey.

Youga looks lazy, has poor distribution, adds nothing going forward and isn't as good as Woodman as a LB or Golbourne as a LWB.

The alternatives are:

a.Stick with what you've got........the team that beat Brentford or, with one loan signing Barnsley.Work with it and give some more squad players/youngsters a chance in the event of injuries or suspensions.

b.Bring in unquestionably better players on loan, then this argument/debate, doesn't arise.

[Bristol Boy]

I'm sorry Bristol Boy but what are you on? the way your at it, it seems you just want to criticise every loan signing we make under Johnson.

I haven't criticised Noble yet, because I haven't seen him play.This is unlike some of our posters who seem to be able to rate Joseph more highly than Carey/Keogh/Fortune...........er, without actually seeing him [/b]play

I cant believe your already saying that Carey is better then Joseph? How many games has Carey played this season, where all he does is blast it up field to nobody aside the opposing team?

And Joseph has played two games, we've conceeded SIX GOALS and lost them both.He punts it up the field just like Louis, so, you tell me, what difference has he made.

How many games has Joseph played for us? errrm yes thats right 2! and your already saying Carey and Keough are better?? How on earth do you make that assumption?

Please see the comments above.

Having seen Carey & Joseph play, I can honestly say that they are at best similar and Joseph, like all the other loan signings, is not a significant improvement on any of the central defenders we already have.

Simple really.

Tell me, why do you think they are, because your post doesn't give any reasons.

I think the loans haven't made us particualrly better but they haven't made us worse.

That's just factually incorrect.As the loans have increased, we've started to loose more.What's the point of loans if you pay loads more dosh and end up with the same results or worse

What was clear on Saturday two things for me. We dominated the first 2o mins until Brooker went off. Not anyone's fault but we didn't have a backup plan because the squad left by Tinnion is so bad that we heavily rely on Brooker.

And that's exactly what I said before the season started and some people AND TINNION decided that we'd start the season with Bridges & Stewart up front. I think that we were 2-1 down when Brooker went off and GJ'd brought in FIVE loans without signing a decent Brooker replacement, although admittedly, he did try with Quinn.He's had bags of time to sign a wide left sided midfielder and a striker and he hasn't.Good or Bad, you judge.

Secondly, everytime we conceed we fall apart. Again I can really on put that on one man who has left us weak players and also young players who shouldn't be relied upon to get us out of it like they are having to do.

That's tosh because the loan players are falling apart just like the others.

As far as I'm concerned, apart from the results

Oh, the results, that thing of minor importance

(which will improve in time but we have to be patient) I have agreed with nearly everything Johnson has done.

Well I haven't mate

[Alex_BCFC]

'That's just factually incorrect.As the loans have increased, we've started to loose more.What's the point of loans if you pay loads more dosh and end up with the same results or worse'

We haven't paid loads more dosh because we have higher paid players out (not a fact but generally I think Bridges/Fortune will be on more than what we have brought in). Yes results have got worse sonce the loans but we were playing bad without the loans, after the honeymoon period, and so I don't think the loands have directyl affected the results. In fact I think Sankofa and Youga are improvements on what we have. Jury is out on Joseph. Quinn was good back up for Brooker, especially in the 1st two games.

'And that's exactly what I said before the season started and some people AND TINNION decided that we'd start the season with Bridges & Stewart up front. I think that we were 2-1 down when Brooker went off and GJ'd brought in FIVE loans without signing a decent Brooker replacement, although admittedly, he did try with Quinn.He's had bags of time to sign a wide left sided midfielder and a striker and he hasn't.Good or Bad, you judge.'

You can only sign what is out there, and if he had brought in a left winger that was no good you would be moaning. He can't win either way with loans going on what you have said about Quinn.

'That's tosh because the loan players are falling apart just like the others.'

So the loan players, after to playing around 2 games each for the club are to blame for the bad results are they? They haven't necessarily fallen apart but those around them have.

'Oh, the results, that thing of minor importance'

Of course results are important and we need something soon but we need to give GJ time to sort it out and that will mean bad results for a while yet so put up with it.

[Guest AndyKat87]

I'm now convinced you don't actually get to see many games because.......well, you talk nonsense and sound a bit daft.

No one is saying that the players already here are great, far from it.

What I am saying is that, IF WE BRING IN LOAN PLAYERS, they need to be an improvement on those we already have and, for a team that's 23rd, A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, because a little better than 23rd could be 21st and that still takes us down with the Gas.

Not many games???? saturday was the first i'd missed because i was away, i'm a season ticket holder mate enough said, stop assuming and talking rubbish.

[mozo]

Glad to explain and it's really quite simple.

1.We could improve slightly and still get relegated.

2.Unless we improve significantly, we won't sell 7,000+ season tickets next year and that will mean any decent players moving on.

3.The expectation level at AG this season and next, is significant and, if not met, will result in falling attendances and yet another manager departing.

4.Beleaguered Shareholders (Financiers) won't keep on stumping up money for old rope!

Our "current rabbles," emotional state is hardly likely to be improved by seeing someone of the same SUB standard take their place, hence they will not improve.

I Judge defenders/players away from home and Sankofa has in no way cut the mustard and isn't a significant or minor improvement on Keogh or Carey.

Youga looks lazy, has poor distribution, adds nothing going forward and isn't as good as Woodman as a LB or Golbourne as a LWB.

The alternatives are:

a.Stick with what you've got........the team that beat Brentford or, with one loan signing Barnsley.Work with it and give some more squad players/youngsters a chance in the event of injuries or suspensions.

b.Bring in unquestionably better players on loan, then this argument/debate, doesn't arise.

Cheers for explaining, there are some well made points there.

A couple of things though: Your alternative A wasn't really a an option as we've had a number of key injuries and suspensions. The only way we could have dealt with that without loans would be to bring in even more youngsters or play even more players out of position. Most managers would refuse to play two lightweight lads up front, so bringing a target man in as a quick fix made sense.

B would obviously be ideal, but if it were that easy all teams would be doing it.

After a 7-1 defeat, and the arrest of 3 players, I think any boss would try to freshen things up. I agree that the quality hasn't been incredible (nor do I think they were abysmal) but I doubt Johnson had a great deal to choose from.