Guest Ivan_is_a_legend Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 does anyone think we may be getting led up a blind alley with all this transfer talk?gary said the other day how clubs want to hang on to players until the last minute, but i don't see how that is the case, especially seeing swindon sell fallon!with all this talk about having made bids for players but not getting anywhere as yet, I'm concerned that come the deadline with no more new arrivals, it will be a case of ' well, we did try '!are the club trying hard enough to sign players?i know people will start having ago at this but I'm just wondering who else has this opinion, and i will take it all back if we get in 2 or 3 more new players, especially dyer cus that lad is quality!!!
Andy082005 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 does anyone think we may be getting led up a blind alley with all this transfer talk?gary said the other day how clubs want to hang on to players until the last minute, but i don't see how that is the case, especially seeing swindon sell fallon!with all this talk about having made bids for players but not getting anywhere as yet, I'm concerned that come the deadline with no more new arrivals, it will be a case of ' well, we did try '!are the club trying hard enough to sign players?i know people will start having ago at this but I'm just wondering who else has this opinion, and i will take it all back if we get in 2 or 3 more new players, especially dyer cus that lad is quality!!!I really don't think we will sign to many players, one I expect, two at the most. We will sign someone though, and I think it may be Hayter. The way I look at it is this, Bournemouth do not want to sell him so will keep hold of him for as long as possible.....if he doesnt sign a new contract by the end of the week (which looks unlikely), they find themselves in a position where they either sell him now for what they can get for him, or will lose him for nothing in the summer. For a club who has recently sold their ground and had it leased back to them, I cant see them wanting to lose him for nothing. They are holding out for the best they can get, but Lansdown isnt stupid and knows he does not need to up his offer, as they will eventually HAVE to accept it, I'm sure of it
EmersonsKev Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Is Fallon really worth £300k seeing his contract is running out in the summer? I think Swindon will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Andy082005 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Is Fallon really worth £300k seeing his contract is running out in the summer? I think Swindon will be laughing all the way to the bank.yes I think they are to, £300k for a player who has had one good half season so far....always looked very average to me
Guest mike11 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Is Fallon really worth £300k seeing his contract is running out in the summer? I think Swindon will be laughing all the way to the bank.So will Swansea if they secure promotion through adding him to their squad.Fallon scores goals[tends to get important ones too] .He will be a snip if his goals are one of the factors in Swansea getting promotion.
bartolona Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I read somewhere it was £150,000 rising to £300,000 on goals scored,promotion etc,which sounds alot more sensible.
Guest Harry Dolman Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 does anyone think we may be getting led up a blind alley with all this transfer talk?gary said the other day how clubs want to hang on to players until the last minute, but i don't see how that is the case, especially seeing swindon sell fallon!with all this talk about having made bids for players but not getting anywhere as yet, I'm concerned that come the deadline with no more new arrivals, it will be a case of ' well, we did try '!are the club trying hard enough to sign players?i know people will start having ago at this but I'm just wondering who else has this opinion, and i will take it all back if we get in 2 or 3 more new players, especially dyer cus that lad is quality!!!Personally I just think we should spend £150k on anyone............. doesn't matter who. At least then we can have some "he's the best player ever" - "what a donkey" posts.
Nibor Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Personally I just think we should spend £150k on anyone............. doesn't matter who. At least then we can have some "he's the best player ever" - "what a donkey" posts.Yeah because everyone's suggesting we do that aren't they?Everybody can see we need two signings, possibly three to ensure survival and it's no wonder there is a great deal of frustration when we see the teams we have to beat to stay up making signings while we're not.The fact of the matter is if other clubs can do it then so can we, and all this stuff about clubs holding on to players and us having irons in the fire that the club tells us doesn't help.Nibor
Guest Harry Dolman Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Yeah because everyone's suggesting we do that aren't they?Everybody can see we need two signings, possibly three to ensure survival and it's no wonder there is a great deal of frustration when we see the teams we have to beat to stay up making signings while we're not.The fact of the matter is if other clubs can do it then so can we, and all this stuff about clubs holding on to players and us having irons in the fire that the club tells us doesn't help.NiborI don't see the relevance in what other teams are doing ?? If the targets we want either a) are too expensive or b) don't want to come here - what can we do ???Milton Keynes have spent £100k on Scott Taylor - that may turn out to be a good signing & I wouldn't have been disappointed if we picked him up. However it does represent a risk as he's done nothing whilst @ PAFC.Clearly not everyone, but some people just seem to want someone in for the "buzz factor".
nester Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 does anyone think we may be getting led up a blind alley with all this transfer talk?No, I don't think GJ would deliberately lie about something like this. He seems a straight talking bloke to me. He might have missed his target players or he might still be negotiating. Either way, he wants success and he has this affinity with the fans - so why lie to them. He wouldn't. Personally I think he'll pull something off.
Nibor Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I don't see the relevance in what other teams are doing ?? If the targets we want either a) are too expensive or b) don't want to come here - what can we do ???Milton Keynes have spent £100k on Scott Taylor - that may turn out to be a good signing & I wouldn't have been disappointed if we picked him up. However it does represent a risk as he's done nothing whilst @ PAFC.Clearly not everyone, but some people just seem to want someone in for the "buzz factor".I want us to bring in two players to try and ensure we're not playing Rovers next year. There is no buzz factor this season nor can there be. We're in a relegation struggle we should never have been anywhere near.What other clubs are doing is entirely relevant to us, on Saturday Swansea will be fielding 2-4 new signings against us added to the team that already beat us 7-1. Swindon and MK Dons are our immediate relegation competition and they've both significantly strengthened their squads, so how can you say it isn't relevant?It makes a mockery of the rubbish that we're hearing about teams not being willing to let players go and that's why you get the frustration and the negative posts on here.Nobody has suggested we go out and blow money for the sake of it or pay over the odds, but the evidence suggests you don't need to.Nibor
Guest Harry Dolman Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I want us to bring in two players to try and ensure we're not playing Rovers next year. There is no buzz factor this season nor can there be. We're in a relegation struggle we should never have been anywhere near.What other clubs are doing is entirely relevant to us, on Saturday Swansea will be fielding 2-4 new signings against us added to the team that already beat us 7-1. Swindon and MK Dons are our immediate relegation competition and they've both significantly strengthened their squads, so how can you say it isn't relevant?It makes a mockery of the rubbish that we're hearing about teams not being willing to let players go and that's why you get the frustration and the negative posts on here.Nobody has suggested we go out and blow money for the sake of it or pay over the odds, but the evidence suggests you don't need to.NiborI still don't really see your point. Yes Swansea have made some good acquisitions - but a) they either have more ££ than us or are prepared to risk more & b) they are a far more attractive proposition for a prospective player. Yes other teams have got players in, it doesn't mean they'll be any good. 18 mths ago the forum was full of how Gillispie was going to be the next big thing. In the summer people waxed lyrical about the great goal scoring left winger that is Grant Smith.A general theme is that people over-react to a new signing just cos their new.
Nibor Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 "or are prepared to risk more"My point is that by leaving it so late we risk far far more than paying a bit extra.We waited 3 and a half weeks on Hayter. That failed. Now we've had an offer accepted for Easter. Ok, good, but if talks break down we're down to what - 3 working days to get someone in? What if Brooker gets injured?We could have pursued several players at once and played the clubs off, or offered a take it or leave it amount on day 1 and moved on quickly. I think it's been handled poorly because while we're arsing around other clubs have their new signings playing for them.Of course there will always be exaggeration on a forum, however don't let that disguise what are often very valid points.Nibor
Colemanballs Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Nobody has suggested we go out and blow money for the sake of it or pay over the odds, but the evidence suggests you don't need to.Actually, what your evidence suggests to me is that two clubs are gambling big time and the rest of the clubs are doing pretty much what City are doing, looking for cheapies, freebies and loaners. Of the players signed by those other clubs I can't find too many I'd have wanted who would have realistically signed for City.
Nibor Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Actually, what your evidence suggests to me is that two clubs are gambling big time and the rest of the clubs are doing pretty much what City are doing, looking for cheapies, freebies and loaners. Of the players signed by those other clubs I can't find too many I'd have wanted who would have realistically signed for City.Forest can afford it and so can Swansea (who are 3k above their break even gates).If paying out some money is the difference between staying up and going down we can't afford not to. I think it quite possibly is that difference.Nibor
Guest alex1089 Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 We wouldn't have paid more than 120k for Easter I shouldn't have thought.
downendcity Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 I don't think we are being strung along. It makes a pleasant change that our manager is probably making offers and negotiating with other clubs without every potential target being plastered all over our web site, the Evening Post and WDP a la Brian Tinnion days. the only one we've heard much abou is hayter and I think that was only publicised so fans knew that we had made offers that had been rejected.I don't think we are as attractive club as we were 18 months ago, so it's probably harder for GJ to get decent players to come here. However, I suspect we are still seen as a "bigger" club in the financial sense so we probably get some silly prices quoted when they know its BCFC buying. I don't want us brining is new players for the sake of making signings and we only want players who are better than what we have or add something different. It does seem to me that we could be getting more players in the squad who have decent pace - something we have been lacking - and that could make a big difference.
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