The Anti Stewart Brigade Are Losing The Plot

[Markman]

I can't understand this. We all rant and moan and have players we like and dislike but some of the stuff on here about Stewart is ridiculous (back to the Tinman abuse)

where is the evidence that he is seen regularly smashed in pubs, or turning up drunk at training or on £6000 or whatever a week?

I was up North yesterday talking to Sunderland fans - they can't believe the stick he is getting, nor can they understand why he isn't scoring (many possible reasons) but one thing was clear - he made it known to them that he loves City and the Black Cats knew that, loved him and respected him.

Stewart is a City fan -if you don't think he is pulling his weight and think he has had more than enough chances fine - but cut out the personal abuse and unsubstantiated allegations - Stewart loves the club - if you think he should show that by leaving and cutting the wage bill thats your shout but some of the other drivel written about him on here is over the top - and yes - I do think he can do a job for us given the chance but I expect the 50% who don't will get their way

[Dolman Block B]

I can't understand this. We all rant and moan and have players we like and dislike but some of the stuff on here about Stewart is ridiculous (back to the Tinman abuse)

where is the evidence that he is seen regularly smashed in pubs, or turning up drunk at training or on £6000 or whatever a week?

I was up North yesterday talking to Sunderland fans - they can't believe the stick he is getting, nor can they understand why he isn't scoring (many possible reasons) but one thing was clear - he made it known to them that he loves City and the Black Cats knew that, loved him and respected him.

Stewart is a City fan -if you don't think he is pulling his weight and think he has had more than enough chances fine - but cut out the personal abuse and unsubstantiated allegations - Stewart loves the club - if you think he should show that by leaving and cutting the wage bill thats your shout but some of the other drivel written about him on here is over the top - and yes - I do think he can do a job for us given the chance but I expect the 50% who don't will get their way

Here Here,markman, problem is the Bas fans are blind and don't know the true facts about MS.

They get on the bandwagon , read threads and then slate the man. No one on this forum knows how much he earns, and that should be kept between the board and the player.

The new bloke wont start sat, thats for sure and i would love for MS to be given a chance but i doubt it.

[Brianred]

I can't understand this. We all rant and moan and have players we like and dislike but some of the stuff on here about Stewart is ridiculous (back to the Tinman abuse)

where is the evidence that he is seen regularly smashed in pubs, or turning up drunk at training or on £6000 or whatever a week?

I was up North yesterday talking to Sunderland fans - they can't believe the stick he is getting, nor can they understand why he isn't scoring (many possible reasons) but one thing was clear - he made it known to them that he loves City and the Black Cats knew that, loved him and respected him.

Stewart is a City fan -if you don't think he is pulling his weight and think he has had more than enough chances fine - but cut out the personal abuse and unsubstantiated allegations - Stewart loves the club - if you think he should show that by leaving and cutting the wage bill thats your shout but some of the other drivel written about him on here is over the top - and yes - I do think he can do a job for us given the chance but I expect the 50% who don't will get their way

Trouble is 50% of our following would not know what good player was. At least sunderland fans knew what they had.

[Port Said Red]

Things haven't worked in his favour here so far I know, and I have criticised him as well. He seems to want to play deep and show us what a good footballer he is, rather stay in the box and show his finishing which is what many of us expected. It could be that having some real pace alongside him in Easter might be what he needs.

[Dolman Block B]

Trouble is 50% of our following would not know what good player was. At least sunderland fans knew what they had.

Brian your a star, talk a lot of common sense, and i can rarely pick fault with any of your threads on here.

Sad thing is mate, its well over 50% who talk where then sun don't shine, I'm afraid.

[Nibor]

It's mob mentality. All you need is one muppet talking crap at the ground on a match day and all of a sudden 50 people on here are repeating it during the week. It snowballs because very few people seem to actually think for themselves.

Noone knows his salary apart from club employees, his agent and him.

Noone has seen him p1ssed up in a pub.

Johnson himself has twice admitted that he is amongst the fittest at the club.

Everyone says he's had lots of starts and not produced, but the truth is he had ONE LESS goal than Brooker up until he was suspended for a game.

He hasn't started in front of the improved defence and midfield and 10 minute sub appearances aren't enough, even though they've allowed him to equal Savage's goal tally in that time.

Nibor

[GeoTheCiderHead]

He could at least look like he's trying to pull his weight. Bas Savage always pull his weigh and give what he possibly can, despite the fact that what he's got isn't too great. Maybe deep down he's trying his hardest but in my opinion, it doesn't seem like we, as fans, are seeing this.

[Guest Bristolface]

I can't understand this. We all rant and moan and have players we like and dislike but some of the stuff on here about Stewart is ridiculous (back to the Tinman abuse)

where is the evidence that he is seen regularly smashed in pubs, or turning up drunk at training or on £6000 or whatever a week?

I was up North yesterday talking to Sunderland fans - they can't believe the stick he is getting, nor can they understand why he isn't scoring (many possible reasons) but one thing was clear - he made it known to them that he loves City and the Black Cats knew that, loved him and respected him.

Stewart is a City fan -if you don't think he is pulling his weight and think he has had more than enough chances fine - but cut out the personal abuse and unsubstantiated allegations - Stewart loves the club - if you think he should show that by leaving and cutting the wage bill thats your shout but some of the other drivel written about him on here is over the top - and yes - I do think he can do a job for us given the chance but I expect the 50% who don't will get their way

Well all I can say is what I have seen, he was in the Plume of feathers in Rickford with Scot Murry. Stewart had drunk 6 pints of cider that I saw while Murry just had Orange juice and lemonade. Like the fella of catch phrase used to say, Say what ya see

[Dolman Block B]

It's mob mentality. All you need is one muppet talking crap at the ground on a match day and all of a sudden 50 people on here are repeating it during the week. It snowballs because very few people seem to actually think for themselves.

Noone knows his salary apart from club employees, his agent and him.

Noone has seen him p1ssed up in a pub.

Johnson himself has twice admitted that he is amongst the fittest at the club.

Everyone says he's had lots of starts and not produced, but the truth is he had ONE LESS goal than Brooker up until he was suspended for a game.

He hasn't started in front of the improved defence and midfield and 10 minute sub appearances aren't enough, even though they've allowed him to equal Savage's goal tally in that time.

Nibor

Spot on Nibor mate

Well all I can say is what I have seen, he was in the Plume of feathers in Rickford with Scot Murry. Stewart had drunk 6 pints of cider that I saw while Murry just had Orange juice and lemonade. Like the fella of catch phrase used to say, Say what ya see

So you sat and watched him drink 6 pints did u????

Muppet :@

[Bodiesaffer]

I don't give a toss what he's does as long as he give's 100% percent.

he's need's a good run in the team and the class will show and shut the 50% of clueless bunch up. then the 50% will be eating there words

goodbye

[Swindon Hater]

No, you 'pro stewart' lot don't have a clue.

Instead of sticking up for the bloke on past times, why not judge him on what he's done this season.

5 goals? and 743 offsides.

Great, well worth the mega bucks he's on.

[Andy082005]

I can't understand this. We all rant and moan and have players we like and dislike but some of the stuff on here about Stewart is ridiculous (back to the Tinman abuse)

where is the evidence that he is seen regularly smashed in pubs, or turning up drunk at training or on £6000 or whatever a week?

I was up North yesterday talking to Sunderland fans - they can't believe the stick he is getting, nor can they understand why he isn't scoring (many possible reasons) but one thing was clear - he made it known to them that he loves City and the Black Cats knew that, loved him and respected him.

Stewart is a City fan -if you don't think he is pulling his weight and think he has had more than enough chances fine - but cut out the personal abuse and unsubstantiated allegations - Stewart loves the club - if you think he should show that by leaving and cutting the wage bill thats your shout but some of the other drivel written about him on here is over the top - and yes - I do think he can do a job for us given the chance but I expect the 50% who don't will get their way

trust me mate, he is a "season ticket holder" at an infamous pub in Kingswood which sells the classy drink Black Rat

[Ben4BCFC]

i'm not saying he is a bad player - he is a good player, but he isn't good for us and he doesnt get the service he is needed but he still isn't going to do anything here and should go!!!

[Guest yateady]

its plain to see that stewart is twice the footballer savage is, talk of savage taking weight of off brooker is rubbish, hes a liability, one goal in four seasons shows that. since the midfield and defence has been playing better it would of been the time for stewart and brooker to form some kind of partnership, instead we persist with a player that once hes gone from city will never probably play league football again, sorry to be honest if this upsets bas fans, but its the truth. to say stewart doesn't look intrested is cr*p, how many times did he have to play deep, to get the ball and try and move play in the right direction, can the same anti-stewart brigade remember when he scored two goals against port vale and ended up finishing the game right back to hold onto a victory, no, why, probably because they were on the tinnion band wagon at the time!. give stewart five games alongside brooker and he will get goals, if gj had any balls and got his head out the sand he would see that, maybe then we might of pushed on up the table instead of falling back into the relegation zone.

[solo1bc]

Here Here,markman, problem is the Bas fans are blind and don't know the true facts about MS.

They get on the bandwagon , read threads and then slate the man. No one on this forum knows how much he earns, and that should be kept between the board and the player.

The new bloke wont start sat, thats for sure and i would love for MS to be given a chance but i doubt it.

Why is this subject always split into 'Bas fans' & 'Stewie fans'?

Can't we appreciate both players who play for our club? Why when having an opinion about one player is it necessary to slag off his competition?

Ah, now I remember, we're bitchy city fans!

For the record then I'd like to see Stewie get a run (regardless of Easter) and have been saying so for ages but I also appreciate the contribution that Savage has made.

I agree that the abuse from the 'Savage' camp is out of order but everyone in the 'Stewie' camp can hardly play innocent now can they!

[Guest Bristolface]

Spot on Nibor mate

So you sat and watched him drink 6 pints did u????

Muppet :@

Yea I did watch him drink 6 pints also watched Murry drink 6 pints of Orange juice spot the differance, one is a model pro and the other not.

[solo1bc]

Yea I did watch him drink 6 pints also watched Murry drink 6 pints of Orange juice spot the differance, one is a model pro and the other not.

6 pints of orange juice!! Jeez, he must of had the squits after that!!

[Dolman Block B]

Yea I did watch him drink 6 pints also watched Murry drink 6 pints of Orange juice spot the differance, one is a model pro and the other not.

And your a proud City fan who likes to put things like this on this forum.

Sad mate is your name, should kept it to yourself if its true, people like you cause bad debate between us fans , which is the last thing we and more importantly the players need at this moment.

Get a life :@

[Nibor]

Yea I did watch him drink 6 pints also watched Murry drink 6 pints of Orange juice spot the differance, one is a model pro and the other not.

Did Elvis buy a round?

Nibor

[Dolman Block B]

Did Elvis buy a round?

Nibor

He,s a nause Nibor, ignore his threads in future, a classic case of no brains, sadact

ps probably don't know even who elvis was

[Dolman Block B]

you're right. Ignore feature now in place.

Thankyou cynic for being one of our sensible point makers. He has done my head in and would like to stick all 6 pints he,s on about right up his a....................ole

[Guest essex exile]

Well as everyone appears to be split between Donkey Bas and P122head Stewart why does'nt GJ play them both and gives Brooks a well deserved rest

[Redtilldead]

its plain to see that stewart is twice the footballer savage is, talk of savage taking weight of off brooker is rubbish, hes a liability, one goal in four seasons shows that. since the midfield and defence has been playing better it would of been the time for stewart and brooker to form some kind of partnership, instead we persist with a player that once hes gone from city will never probably play league football again, sorry to be honest if this upsets bas fans, but its the truth. to say stewart doesn't look intrested is cr*p, how many times did he have to play deep, to get the ball and try and move play in the right direction, can the same anti-stewart brigade remember when he scored two goals against port vale and ended up finishing the game right back to hold onto a victory, no, why, probably because they were on the tinnion band wagon at the time!. give stewart five games alongside brooker and he will get goals, if gj had any balls and got his head out the sand he would see that, maybe then we might of pushed on up the table instead of falling back into the relegation zone.

Great post mate, one of the best posts I've read on here about Marcus Stewart, I have said on here loads of times MS should be given a full game, and I am convinced he can score goals for us, I'm also convinced that if he goes elsewhere, he will find the back of the net big time.

[BB.]

It's mob mentality. All you need is one muppet talking crap at the ground on a match day and all of a sudden 50 people on here are repeating it during the week. It snowballs because very few people seem to actually think for themselves.

Noone knows his salary apart from club employees, his agent and him.

Noone has seen him p1ssed up in a pub.

Johnson himself has twice admitted that he is amongst the fittest at the club.

Everyone says he's had lots of starts and not produced, but the truth is he had ONE LESS goal than Brooker up until he was suspended for a game.

He hasn't started in front of the improved defence and midfield and 10 minute sub appearances aren't enough, even though they've allowed him to equal Savage's goal tally in that time.

Nibor

I wasn't aware I had inadvertantly signed up to a mob because I think Stewart is a huge waste of money and that if the rumours are true he has a stinking attitude that he readily makes known to the people he should be respecting.

I have heard from City fans/employee and also Sunderland fans that he loves his drink.

Whether he loves City or not, he has not played well enough to recieve £5K a week (or whatever he is on, but I'm very sure it is £5K) and that is reflected by the fact that he can't knock Bas Savage out of the team, either that or Johnson has a problem with his attitude, either way it doesn't show Stewart in a good light does it?

He gives the ball away a lot and is offside too much and he far from sets the world alight when he plays to be honest. When he came he was supposed to be a role modle for our young lads to look up to too, from what I've heard, I really hope they haven't!

[Redtilldead]

I wasn't aware I had inadvertantly signed up to a mob because I think Stewart is a huge waste of money and that if the rumours are true he has a stinking attitude that he readily makes known to the people he should be respecting.

I have heard from City fans/employee and also Sunderland fans that he loves his drink.

Whether he loves City or not, he has not played well enough to recieve £5K a week (or whatever he is on, but I'm very sure it is £5K) and that is reflected by the fact that he can't knock Bas Savage out of the team, either that or Johnson has a problem with his attitude, either way it doesn't show Stewart in a good light does it?

He gives the ball away a lot and is offside too much and he far from sets the world alight when he plays to be honest. When he came he was supposed to be a role modle for our young lads to look up to too, from what I've heard, I really hope they haven't!

Yeah exactly..... from what you've heard, do you actually know it to be the truth?????

you have just posted a whole statement based on rumours !!

[Nibor]

If the rumours are true, from what I've heard, or whatever he is on.

Nope, you're not just repeating what other people tell you at all.

Nibor

[solo1bc]

And your a proud City fan who likes to put things like this on this forum.

Sad mate is your name, should kept it to yourself if its true, people like you cause bad debate between us fans , which is the last thing we and more importantly the players need at this moment.

Get a life :@

Not defending Mr.6 pints of OJ and not getting involved in this now extremely tedious Stewie Vs GJ / Stewie Vs Savage fans / Stewie likes his Natch debate cos I've already said that I'd like to see him in the team.

However, how is posting "50% of the people on here talk from where the sun don't shine" good debate arny?

How is splitting the forum into 'Bas fans' who know nothing and 'Stewie fans' who know it all "helping the fans and more importantly the players"

[Dolman Block B]

Yeah exactly..... from what you've heard, do you actually know it to be the truth?????

you have just posted a whole statement based on rumours !!

Great post Red, and BB your a quality bloke but thats a bad thread mate. You cant back any of that up at all , its either what you read or heard.

Lets give MS a chance. He could still be the lad that keeps us up

[Colemanballs]

It's mob mentality. All you need is one muppet talking crap at the ground on a match day and all of a sudden 50 people on here are repeating it during the week. It snowballs because very few people seem to actually think for themselves.

Noone knows his salary apart from club employees, his agent and him.

Noone has seen him p1ssed up in a pub.

Johnson himself has twice admitted that he is amongst the fittest at the club.

Everyone says he's had lots of starts and not produced, but the truth is he had ONE LESS goal than Brooker up until he was suspended for a game.

He hasn't started in front of the improved defence and midfield and 10 minute sub appearances aren't enough, even though they've allowed him to equal Savage's goal tally in that time.

Nibor

Sadly, you're wasting your breath. Cretins will be cretins and there's nothing that can be done about it. These are the same people whose opinions are formed by reading the headlines in the Daily News Of The Scum. The frightening thing is that these people have the right to vote.

[BB.]

Yeah exactly..... from what you've heard, do you actually know it to be the truth?????

you have just posted a whole statement based on rumours !!

Lets look at the facts!

Stewart is not in the starting 11 - Fact

Then why not????

I think this is a big reason as to why I think the rumours are true. Either that or Stewart is not even good enoug to knock Bas Savage out the team. Which one of these options do you think is more plausable? Or if Stewart is as good as everyone says he is then it says that Johnson doesn't want good players in his starting 11.

[Redtilldead]

Lets look at the facts!

Stewart is not in the starting 11 - Fact

Then why not????

I think this is a big reason as to why I think the rumours are true. Either that or Stewart is not even good enoug to knock Bas Savage out the team. Which one of these options do you think is more plausable? Or if Stewart is as good as everyone says he is then it says that Johnson doesn't want good players in his starting 11.

The latter mate!

I for one do not know why Marcus Stewart is not in the starting 11, I think he should be.

But again BB you have produced only one fact, and to be honest that wasn't difficult was it ?, the rest of your post is based on rumours again mate.

[gazza1982]

This topic sums up how bad this forum has become.

[Nibor]

Lets look at the facts!

Stewart is not in the starting 11 - Fact

Then why not????

I think this is a big reason as to why I think the rumours are true. Either that or Stewart is not even good enoug to knock Bas Savage out the team. Which one of these options do you think is more plausable? Or if Stewart is as good as everyone says he is then it says that Johnson doesn't want good players in his starting 11.

My guess is that Johnson doesn't play Stewart because it's against his principles to sign older players on high salaries (it's not 5-6grand but it's still going to be more than most others), and therefore he wants Stewart off the wage bill so he can build a younger side which is better value for money. I'm certain had he been manager last summer he wouldn't have signed him.

I don't have a problem with that in principle. But the fact is that Stewart is already here, and is much more likely to score than Savage. The only way to get rid will be to pay up a contract which doesn't save anything anyway, and I think he's cutting off his nose to spite his face basically. Also, this type of thing is best done in the summer, not in the middle of a relegation battle.

Savage isn't producing the goods, he's got one goal in EIGHT games, surely it's time to try Stewart in front of the massively improved midfield?

Savage - 1 in 8 or 0.125 goals per game in front of best midfield

Stewart - 5 in 15 or 0.333 goals per game mainly in front of worst midfield for years

I think if Stewart had played after his suspension with Savage coming on as a sub against tired teams, those 1-1 draws would have been wins and we'd not have been beaten at Colchester.

Nibor

[Dolman Block B]

The latter mate!

I for one do not know why Marcus Stewart is not in the starting 11, I think he should be.

But again BB you have produced only one fact, and to be honest that wasn't difficult was it ?, the rest of your post is based on rumours again mate.

Totally on reds side BB. Thought u were one of the intelligent posters on this site mate?

Anyway, i know the reason why? To much winking my ald mate on that "live chat"

Forget it for now, ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL..................................................

COME ON U REDS COME ON U REDS COME ON U REDS

[dagest]

Here's my two pennies worth. Firstly, I think Stewart is a good player and I would love to see him do well for us. I think he deserves another shot in the first team because he's done well in recent sub appearances. However, I don't subscribe to the Bas vs Stewart argument. They are different types of players and I can at least recognise that Bas affects the game in different ways to Stewart.

Regarding Stewart's drinking, I believe it's true. I live in Kingswood and know people who used to play football with Stewart over Courtney fields years ago. I've heard plenty of stories from people who live in Kingswood who have seen Stewart hammered up Kingswood plenty of times. People I work with in central Bristol have also seen him (I said a naughty word) up in Bristol. I think we should accept that Stewart likes to get drunk. The issue is whether it is acceptable in our current plight and whether it affects his game or not.

[solo1bc]

The latter mate!

I for one do not know why Marcus Stewart is not in the starting 11, I think he should be.

But again BB you have produced only one fact, and to be honest that wasn't difficult was it ?, the rest of your post is based on rumours again mate.

How do you know its the latter red?

Your opinion seems to be based on 'rumours' that GJ doesn't want Stewie in the team for some other reason or do you work down Ashton Gate?

The only people who know the facts are Stewie & Gary Johnson.

Option 1 - GJ is not picking MS because Stewie has a bad attitude / drinking problem / wages to high etc? No facts(unless you count Mr. 6 Pints! ) to support this so

Option 2 - GJ is not picking him because he thinks Savage is contributing more to the team. No facts to support this either so

My suggestions is to just stop the bickering on this subject and just leave it up to GJ. At the end of the day there's nowt we can do about it anyway!

I actually do know some REAL FACTS about Stewie's charactor because I know his ex-girlfriend (from his gashead days!) and they suggest that he ain't no angel by the way.

[Brianred]

My guess is that Johnson doesn't play Stewart because it's against his principles to sign older players on high salaries (it's not 5-6grand but it's still going to be more than most others), and therefore he wants Stewart off the wage bill so he can build a younger side which is better value for money. I'm certain had he been manager last summer he wouldn't have signed him.

I don't have a problem with that in principle. But the fact is that Stewart is already here, and is much more likely to score than Savage. The only way to get rid will be to pay up a contract which doesn't save anything anyway, and I think he's cutting off his nose to spite his face basically. Also, this type of thing is best done in the summer, not in the middle of a relegation battle.

Savage isn't producing the goods, he's got one goal in EIGHT games, surely it's time to try Stewart in front of the massively improved midfield?

I think if Stewart had played after his suspension with Savage coming on as a sub against tired teams, those 1-1 draws would have been wins and we'd not have been beaten at Colchester.

Nibor

If Stewart starts a few games, then we can all see if it's still there, If not, i would be one of the first to hold my hands up. If he is not getting the chance with a better side how can we criticize him.

[Redtilldead]

How do you know its the latter red?

Your opinion seems to be based on 'rumours' that GJ doesn't want Stewie in the team for some other reason or do you work down Ashton Gate?

The only people who know the facts are Stewie & Gary Johnson.

Option 1 - GJ is not picking MS because Stewie has a bad attitude / drinking problem / wages to high etc? No facts(unless you count Mr. 6 Pints! ) to support this so

Option 2 - GJ is not picking him because he thinks Savage is contributing more to the team. No facts to support this either so

My suggestions is to just stop the bickering on this subject and just leave it up to GJ. At the end of the day there's nowt we can do about it anyway!

I don't know it's the latter Ben, he asked me the queston, (so I gave him what is in my opinion and my opinion only), my answer.

And I can assure you that my opinion is not based on any rumours at all.

[Nibor]

If Stewart starts a few games, then we can all see if it's still there, If not, i would be one of the first to hold my hands up. If he is not getting the chance with a better side how can we criticize him.

Exactly, what do we have to lose? We're not missing out on a massive torrent of goals by putting Savage on the bench for a bit - in fact he might have more luck against tiring teams.

Nibor

[solo1bc]

I don't know it's the latter Ben, he asked me the queston, (so I gave him what is in my opinion and my opinion only), my answer.

And I can assure you that my opinion is not based on any rumours at all.

Fair enough Red, so why do you think that he's not in the team?

[Redtilldead]

Fair enough Red, so why do you think that he's not in the team?

My opinion?

[solo1bc]

You opinion dude...

[Redtilldead]

You opinion dude...

My opinion is because of the "discussion" that went on in the changing room that day.

[Guest Ivan_is_a_legend]

i cant beleive this is even a debate!!!

it appears a lot of people cover up savages lack of ability with his hard work. i would much rather have the ability of stewart, who also has a good work rate.

got nothing personnal against bas, but lets face it, he aint good enough for football at this level, no matter how much he runs about! and if i was as bad at my job as he is at his, i know i would have bee fired by now!

[solo1bc]

My opinion is because of the "discussion" that went on in the changing room that day.

Isn't that a rumour though?

got nothing personnal against bas, but lets face it, he aint good enough for football at this level, no matter how much he runs about! and if i was as bad at my job as he is at his, i know i would have bee fired by now!

Any yet it's strange how a PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL MANAGER who has been through two promotions and managed an international team thinks he's alright?

Go figure?

[BB.]

My guess is that Johnson doesn't play Stewart because it's against his principles to sign older players on high salaries (it's not 5-6grand but it's still going to be more than most others), and therefore he wants Stewart off the wage bill so he can build a younger side which is better value for money. I'm certain had he been manager last summer he wouldn't have signed him.

I don't have a problem with that in principle. But the fact is that Stewart is already here, and is much more likely to score than Savage. The only way to get rid will be to pay up a contract which doesn't save anything anyway, and I think he's cutting off his nose to spite his face basically. Also, this type of thing is best done in the summer, not in the middle of a relegation battle.

Savage isn't producing the goods, he's got one goal in NINE games, surely it's time to try Stewart in front of the massively improved midfield?

I think if Stewart had played after his suspension with Savage coming on as a sub against tired teams, those 1-1 draws would have been wins and we'd not have been beaten at Colchester.

Nibor

"your guess" Only jesting Nibor

Seeing as Stewart is already here - My ideal senario would be for Stewart to be given another chance and see if he improves his performance and then try and get him off the wage bill in the summer.

I would love for Stewart to start banging the goals in and for the dressing room to be a happy one, (ok, for the benefit of rumour) if it's not already.

By the way, I don't see how people thinking that Stewart shouldn't be at ashton Gate makes them cretins Colmanballs. Stewart hasn't impressed me since he's come here and I'm fairly sure that he's on £5K a week, I think I'm entitled to have the opinion that he should be gone, without being labelled, mate.

Stewart is only one very very small part of Bristol City FC, so we shouldn't be having a pop at each other because some people believe things could be true that other people don't about the Stewart situation. I don't think I've said that Stewart actually has done this that or the other, it just seems not that unlikely given the apparent culture at Ashton Gate and the fact that we have an expensive striker sitting on the bench who can't knock Bas Savage out the team.

The three reasons for him not being in the team that I can think of are:

1) Not good enough to knock Savage out the team

2) The rumours are true about bust ups etc...

3) Johnson doesn't want a good player in his side who is 32/33 and on a higher than average wage.

[Redtilldead]

Isn't that a rumour though?

No mate. it's my opinion.

It is honestly not based on a rumour, I see where you are coming from, but that is my opinion, and my opinion only.

And in answer to your other question about GJ being a professional Manager and picking Bas Savage, that doesn't necessarily make him right does it?

[BB.]

No mate. it's my opinion.

It is honestly not based on a rumour, I see where you are coming from, but that is my opinion, and my opinion only.

Didn't you say that it was based on that "descussion" though? Rumour, surely?

Just like my opinion that he should be gone is largely based on rumour. It's also my opinion.

Anyway, the Club is bigger than any one player! That is something we can all agree on!

Com on you Reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Ivan_is_a_legend]

Isn't that a rumour though?

Any yet it's strange how a PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL MANAGER who has been through two promotions and managed an international team thinks he's alright?

Go figure?

funny how the manager at FOREST GREEN ROVERS also agreed with my opinion!

[Redtilldead]

Didn't you say that it was based on that "descussion" though? Rumour, surely?

Just like my opinion that he should be gone is largely based on rumour. It's also my opinion.

Anyway, the Club is bigger than any one player! That is something we can all agree on!

Com on you Reds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No I didn't ever say that it was based on a discussion, and I am not basing it on a rumour either.

Oh and by the way sorry mate, I'm with you all the way with Come On You Reds !!!!!!!!!

[solo1bc]

No mate. it's my opinion.

It is honestly not based on a rumour, I see where you are coming from, but that is my opinion, and my opinion only.

But an opinion based on a rumour.

Just kidding mate. Personally I think it's more likely that if its not football related as in Bas offering something (not goals!) that Stewie doesn't then it's more likely to be to get him off the wage bill.

GJ doesn't seem to be the kind of bloke who'd even have MS on the bench if that particular rumour is true and as the spirit in the team seems to be pretty good at the moment it doesn't seem to be a divided camp either.

If he wants him off the wage bill though then why doesn't he just put him on the transfer list as i'm sure there would be takers?

funny how the manager at FOREST GREEN ROVERS also agreed with my opinion!

And yet the manager at COVENTRY didn't!

[Redtilldead]

But an opinion based on a rumour.

Just kidding mate. Personally I think it's more likely that if its not football related as in Bas offering something (not goals!) that Stewie doesn't then it's more likely to be to get him off the wage bill.

GJ doesn't seem to be the kind of bloke who'd even have MS on the bench if that particular rumour is true and as the spirit in the team seems to be pretty good at the moment it doesn't seem to be a divided camp either.

If he wants him off the wage bill though then why doesn't he just put him on the transfer list as i'm sure there would be takers?

And yet the manager at COVENTRY didn't!

Fair point Ben, but to your last point, he doesn't seem to want to go anywhere else.

[Guest Ivan_is_a_legend]

And yet the manager at COVENTRY didn't!

i think you will find bas played about 2 or 3 reserve games for coventry before they decided he wasnt good enough.

if the manager at coventry seen it different to me, he would be playing for them now wouldnt he!

[Nibor]

Fair point Ben, but to your last point, he doesn't seem to want to go anywhere else.

He isn't going anywhere, he turned down interest from Championship teams which would have meant more money to finish his career here because it was an unfulfilled ambition in his career - I doubt he sees himself playing for any other team before retirement. That's one of the reasons it irks me when people make him out to be a money grabber - clearly he isn't, and I'd be surprised if after playing at higher levels for so long he has any worries for the rest of his life financially.

Nibor

[solo1bc]

Fair point Ben, but to your last point, he doesn't seem to want to go anywhere else.

All speculation at the end of the day i guess Red... Anyhoo, hope Stewie starts on Saturday cos he's obviously here for at least the rest of the season...

[BB.]

My opinion is because of the "discussion" that went on in the changing room that day.

No I didn't ever say that it was based on a discussion, and I am not basing it on a rumour either.

Oh and by the way sorry mate, I'm with you all the way with Come On You Reds !!!!!!!!!

What did you mean then Redtilldead?

Also what is your opinion on why Stewart is not in the team?

Hello! Hello! We are the City Boys!

He isn't going anywhere, he turned down interest from Championship teams which would have meant more money to finish his career here because it was an unfulfilled ambition in his career - I doubt he sees himself playing for any other team before retirement. That's one of the reasons it irks me when people make him out to be a money grabber - clearly he isn't, and I'd be surprised if after playing at higher levels for so long he has any worries for the rest of his life financially.

Nibor

I for one am not calling him a money grabber, just that it irks me that we are spending a big wage on a player who hasn't been able to knock Bas Savage out the team for what ever reason it may be.

You Reds!!!!!!

[solo1bc]

i think you will find bas played about 2 or 3 reserve games for coventry before they decided he wasnt good enough.

if the manager at coventry seen it different to me, he would be playing for them now wouldnt he!

I sooo wish there was a smily on here to convey a patient sigh!

Anyway, the managers of Reading, Wycombe, Bury, Coventry and more importantly BRISTOL CITY all think that he's got 'something' to offer.

No offense Ivan mate but I'm going to put my faith in them for now.

[WTFiGO!?!]

What I reckon, an my oppinion I'm sure will be easilly refuted, but, we're not going to do much better than simply staying up this season. FACT.

I think that we will stay up.

We'll see what we end up achieving come the end of next season, and if again we've achieved absolutely bu99er all, what change in that regards has taken place since the 1999-00 season? Absolutely nothing. If Stewart and Johnson aren't the debate then it was Pulis and Steve Jones, or Danny wilson and......whoever. There is something fundamentally wrong at the Club I swear, so all the debates that come and go I just see as droplets in the ocean/beating around the bush trivial matters. WTFiGO!?!

This City. This Population. We're being put to shame by miniscule clubs from miniscule towns. It's an Embarasment.

If I was a proud citezen of say Bury, I wouldn't mind but this is taking the pi55.

[Guest Ivan_is_a_legend]

I sooo wish there was a smily on here to convey a patient sigh!

Anyway, the managers of Reading, Wycombe, Bury, Coventry and more importantly BRISTOL CITY all think that he's got 'something' to offer.

No offense Ivan mate but I'm going to put my faith in them for now.

as long as he is pulling on a city shirt on a saturday i will be behind him 100% and admitedly, he can be very entertaining at times, not always for the right reason!

still, stewart should be in the starting line up way before savage

[BB.]

as long as he is pulling on a city shirt on a saturday i will be behind him 100% and admitedly, he can be very entertaining at times, not always for the right reason!

still, stewart should be in the starting line up way before savage

Same goes for me too. Also the same goes for me with any City player who plays.

I'd just like to put on record, that I do hope that Stewart ends up being a star at Ashton Gate, I'm just a bit annoyed at the fact that he is on a big wage and has done sweet fa really.

Anyway.....

YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Keep the Faith]

In my humble opinion this is a very difficult topic to come to a clear conculsion on which is why I think it has been so hotly debated on this forum.

I beleive that Marcus Stewart is a good player, his previous record shows this and I don't think any can doubt that he has the ability. The one major complaint that I would have with Stewart is that he plays far too deep, leaving Brooker to fair up front on his own and therefore his selection is acting to the detriment of the team. When he does move further forward he is generally caught offside.

Bas Savage, alhtough technically not a fantastic footballer, does do a good job for the team. He does take alot of pressure off Brooker as he plays right upfront whereas Stewart generally does not. However,he is not likely to score many goals and whilst I have praised Bas for his perfromance I think that in the current situation that we find ourselves in we cannot have one of our strikers not scoring goals. The only players in our team that score goals are Brooker and Murray, we need more than that and I beleive that Stewart is more likely to provide us with goals.

So I would say start Stewart on Saturday, especially as we are at home and bring Easter on at some point to show what he can do.

I think that rather than making a problem out of this situation we should be more appreciative of the fact that we now have three players realistically competing for one spot and they all have something different to add to the team.

[BB.]

Noone knows his salary apart from club employees, his agent and him.

Noone has seen him p1ssed up in a pub.

Or they do and they have, but whether we believe them or not is a different matter.

Also, I don't know for a fact about Stewarts happenings within the dressing room, but neither does anyone else who has replied to this thread.

Just a thought.

In my humble opinion this is a very difficult topic to come to a clear conculsion on which is why I think it has been so hotly debated on this forum.

I beleive that Marcus Stewart is a good player, his previous record shows this and I don't think any can doubt that he has the ability. The one major complaint that I would have with Stewart is that he plays far too deep, leaving Brooker to fair up front on his own and therefore his selection is acting to the detriment of the team. When he does move further forward he is generally caught offside.

Bas Savage, alhtough technically not a fantastic footballer, does do a good job for the team. He does take alot of pressure off Brooker as he plays right upfront whereas Stewart generally does not. However,he is not likely to score many goals and whilst I have praised Bas for his perfromance I think that in the current situation that we find ourselves in we cannot have one of our strikers not scoring goals. The only players in our team that score goals are Brooker and Murray, we need more than that and I beleive that Stewart is more likely to provide us with goals.

So I would say start Stewart on Saturday, especially as we are at home and bring Easter on at some point to show what he can do.

I think that rather than making a problem out of this situation we should be more appreciative of the fact that we now have three players realistically competing for one spot and they all have something different to add to the team.

Great post in my opinion.

It's all about opinions and beliefs at the end of the day. It doesn't mean that someone is a "naughty word" or chats rubbish just because they have a different opinion about something.

[mossey]

Great post mate, one of the best posts I've read on here about Marcus Stewart, I have said on here loads of times MS should be given a full game, and I am convinced he can score goals for us, I'm also convinced that if he goes elsewhere, he will find the back of the net big time.

yep, me also thinks stewart should be given the chance , and start the game, think that i will be a bit dissappointed in johnson if he starts with savage, after all, we need goals, and someone other than brooker and murray scoring them, and with savage we will be lucky if he scores 2 more goals this season!

[Swindon Hater]

yep, me also thinks stewart should be given the chance , and start the game, think that i will be a bit dissappointed in johnson if he starts with savage, after all, we need goals, and someone other than brooker and murray scoring them, and with savage we will be lucky if he scores 2 more goals this season!

Yes 'cos Stewarts scored loads this season hasn't he!!

[mossey]

Yes 'cos Stewarts scored loads this season hasn't he!!

True , its only 4 more than savage! and most of them came when the team was playing poorly, with no service to the forwards<, how daft of me, so you think savage should start the game then? might be lucky, get a chance from 2 yards that comes of the side of his head , hits the post and goes in, the man fast becoming a joke !

[mossey]

True , its only 4 more than savage! and most of them came when the team was playing poorly, with no service to the forwards<, how daft of me, so you think savage should start the game then? might be lucky, get a chance from 2 yards that comes of the side of his head , hits the post and goes in, the man fast becoming a joke !

ok, perhaps joke was a bit strong! but if he was that good, we would have snapped him up on a longer contract, then just to the end of the season!

[BigTone]

Exactly, what do we have to lose? We're not missing out on a massive torrent of goals by putting Savage on the bench for a bit - in fact he might have more luck against tiring teams.

Nibor

Stewart is quality and just needs a chance to show it. I agree entirely with your sentiments about Savage.

Yes 'cos Stewarts scored loads this season hasn't he!!

You can't score when your'e not playing

[Dolman Block B]

Stewart is quality and just needs a chance to show it. I agree entirely with your sentiments about Savage.

You can't score when your'e not playing

E X A C T L Y

[Guest mercury]

Stewart - 5 in 15 or 0.333 goals per game mainly in front of worst midfield for years

according to gwr this morning, this is the same ratio as our new boy mr easter playing in league two, so have we brought in anything better? only time will tell.

[bucksred]

Stewart is about as good as Miller & Roberts were, and they were caned REGULARLY. Why is Stewart exempt? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh yes, cos hes from Brizzle, and a lifelong fan. Just like Docherty. And as effective, as Doc was last season. Blinkers off, for once. Oh and Savage aint brilliant either, before anyone accuses me of being a pro Savage fan as well.

Incidentally, I have had Uddersfield fans asking me is he is still a lash head. Any comments?

BTW, I don't RATE Stewart, I don't HATE Stewart. In our current position hes an over rated luxury we can ill afford, particularly if the lash head stories have any foundation. And he didnt get any serious offers from other clubs either did he? Coincidence? I think not.