Guest heathma Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 http://www.bcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/...~776015,00.html
Guest alex1089 Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 My theory is that he is keeping us from getting to excited over the deal by saying he is not optimistic just in case of a hitch. Also i think that lansdown would not of said all of this if he wasn't sure of a deal. Thats my theory and i think James hayter will sign for BCFC tomorrow.
Andy082005 Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 My theory is that he is keeping us from getting to excited over the deal by saying he is not optimistic just in case of a hitch. Also i think that lansdown would not of said all of this if he wasn't sure of a deal. Thats my theory and i think James hayter will sign for BCFC tomorrow.I think you may be right.Bournemouth are in financial dire straights, they recently sold their ground and had to lease it back. If their prize asset has basically said he wants to leave, they have one of two options1, risk losing him for nowt in the summer, hence losing possibly about £150,000 much needed cash2, or take the money now and cut their losses.If i remember rightly we were in a similar situation with the Goat, but we sold up.....Quite possibly couold be playing a game of call my bluff, the Bournemouth chairman may be holding out to see if City will get desperate enough to up their offer, and SL might be holding on thinking "Bournemtouh will want to get some money for this player instead of losing him in the Summer"
Bristol Boy Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Gillespie moving is another possible indicator, although far from definite.I think the players attitude is paramount and if he wants to move he will.Unless they're 100% confident that he'll sign a new contract, Bournmouths' choice is stark-a six figure cash sum now.............f'all in June.
Guest Ron Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 It isn't too hard to see that he is fairly confident, he knows that Phillips is under a lot of pressure to sell with the financial capacities of AFC Bournemouth at the moment, coupled with Hayter's contract running out in the summer. Steve even goes as far as to have a little dig at the AFCB chairman, rightly so. All the pressure is thus directed onto him, and he has a very difficult decision to make tomorrow, which is looking like it will go our way, they can either get a decent 6-figure sum for Hayter or see him leave for nothing in the summer, as if it's true that he wants to join us then I could see him signing a pre-contract agreement with us between transfer windows.
TomBCFCUK Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 I hope we do get him for Tommorow as we can then use Andrews as back-up for a winger!
lenred Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Lansdown and co. have continually stated throughout the window that unless they are supremely confident in getting their 'man' then they will not post any news regards any transfers onto the official sit.....surely the fact that they have must mean that they are?!
BCAGFC Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 My theory is that he is keeping us from getting to excited over the deal by saying he is not optimistic just in case of a hitch. Also i think that lansdown would not of said all of this if he wasn't sure of a deal. Thats my theory and i think James hayter will sign for BCFC tomorrow.I wish I was so optimistic, I think Hayter will stay at AFCB until the summer then look at his options, hoping that a championship club shows interest. Interesting comments from the AFCB end regarding the BCFC offers, they seem to suggest that the bids are not cash upfront (eg: over a number of years and performance related). Someone is not telling the truth.BCAGFC
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Also, Southampton today signed Peter Madsen, a striker......Could take another rumoured bidder out of the equation....
Bristol Boy Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Also, Southampton today signed Peter Madsen, a striker......Could take another rumoured bidder out of the equation....We signed another striker today as well...........and sold one, so who knows
Stedge Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 What about Burnley ? Speaking to a Burnley fan today, he reckoned it's in the bag at 250k. I told him Hayter is a home boy and wouldn't go anywhere near Burnley (who would), but as he said - money talks. Probably a load of hot air.Several first teamers at Bournemouth have signed new contracts this week, but significantly Hayter hasn't been mentioned - other than the Chairman urging the supporters to get behind him last saturday to show how much he means to them. Straw clutching ?I really don't think they have an option, he has to go - question is, to who ?I don't think he is much more than a decent division 3 striker, but he is experienced and the best we do for now, so I hope we get him.Exactly, Hayter will probably leave Bournemouth tomorrow but don't bank on it being here.
StapleHillPhil Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 I think you may be right.Bournemouth are in financial dire straights, they recently sold their ground and had to lease it back. If their prize asset has basically said he wants to leave, they have one of two options1, risk losing him for nowt in the summer, hence losing possibly about £150,000 much needed cash2, or take the money now and cut their losses......." It isn't too hard to see that he is fairly confident, he knows that Phillips is under a lot of pressure to sell with the financial capacities of AFC Bournemouth at the moment.... Are we actually certain that Bournemouth are under any financial pressure to sell? Last week Sean O'Driscoll spent £20k on Aston Villa midfielder Steven Foley. It appears the money they made on selling Brian(?) Stock may have eased any immediate pressure from creditors and allowed them to gamble on being able to persuade James Hayter that he'd be better of staying with Bournemouth.
Thornbury Red Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 What about Burnley ? Signed Michael Ricketts on loan till end of season. Bournemouth have signed two new strikers - umm i wonder.....
Bristol Boy Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Lansdown and co. have continually stated throughout the window that unless they are supremely confident in getting their 'man' then they will not post any news regards any transfers onto the official sit.....surely the fact that they have must mean that they are?! If I had to bet my house one way or the other, I'd bet Hayter stays with Bournemouth and signs an improved contract.The same has happened with McCleod at MK Dons.The one voice that hasn't been heard in all this is Hayters and he strikes me as a home boy who lacks the ambition to move far from the South Coast.
Ben4BCFC Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 there has been a theory released (and this is only rumours so don't rely on this as fact) that GJ was never going to sign J.Easter and used him to bluff B'mouth into accepting a bid - supposedly he told B'Mouth that if they didn't accept a bid that we would happily go through with a deal for Easter and then B'Mouth would get nothing for him in the summer - therefore bluffing B'Mouth into accepting a deal from us once we called off the Easter deal. if this is true then it is a very clever idea and a very ingenious way of manipulating a team - however this is only a theory and only a rumour - but if it is true then there isevry chance of Hayter signing tomorrow - remember when we signed Murray, Caskey and Rougier on deadline day a couple of years back? Who says it won't happen again???
Guest sparkyboy72 Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 there has been a theory released (and this is only rumours so don't rely on this as fact) that GJ was never going to sign J.Easter and used him to bluff B'mouth into accepting a bid - supposedly he told B'Mouth that if they didn't accept a bid that we would happily go through with a deal for Easter and then B'Mouth would get nothing for him in the summer - therefore bluffing B'Mouth into accepting a deal from us once we called off the Easter deal. if this is true then it is a very clever idea and a very ingenious way of manipulating a team - however this is only a theory and only a rumour - but if it is true then there isevry chance of Hayter signing tomorrow - remember when we signed Murray, Caskey and Rougier on deadline day a couple of years back? Who says it won't happen again???Its GJ doing his cockney wideboy antics, log may it continue if we get Hayter.
Guest sparkyboy72 Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 just found this although it says a month old, but its dated today?http://www.bournemouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=8325I'll hang myself if its wrongCome on you Redz
gazareth Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 Remind me what Leroy Lita said about his future before any fee was agreed with Reading?
Guest sparkyboy72 Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 I think by reading it city will have to put an attractive contract in front of him to make him sign from what he's said Come on you Redz
Guest C.T.I.D Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 just found this although it says a month old, but its dated today?http://www.bournemouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=8325 I'll hang myself if its wrongCome on you Redzhttp://www.bournemouth.vitalfootball.co.uk...icle.asp?a=8325this'll work
Dorset_Cider Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 General opinion is......... we won't get him as we have not offered enough money....I was under the impression we had uped our offer a few times............ ?Still not enough????Also talk with a Sarfamton fan (steward) today.......... Interested in Hayter..... but didn't say much more.Conclussion.......... AFC B'mth just want as much money as they can get....... do we really think Hayter is worth it....... it would be nice but is it all about money......have we been there before???Bluff??? ...... it could well be ............ but if Hayter does not see us as the team to give his all for ..... he's worth bugger all to us and no amount of money is worth that?Has he shown any real interest in BCFC Steve/Gary ...... if not...... forget about it?
havanatopia Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 as far as B'mth are concerned of course its all about money. as far as Hayter is concerned we have absolutely no idea if he has the passion for city do we but most probably not - just like anyone before they sign - when they realise they might sign, they see the set up, talk to the gaffer and see the pay check - then they might get passionate.if fallon at 300k and boyd at 500k is anything to go by then for sure our bid of [i guess] around 200k obviously is not enough
havanatopia Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 its interesting to see at the foot of SL's update on the Hayter situation there is a link to BC world football to see all of Hayter's goals this season - made me wonder if such a thing was usual i.e. to see goals from a non city player... or is that going to swiftly change manana?!
Dorset_Cider Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 as far as B'mth are concerned of course its all about money. as far as Hayter is concerned we have absolutely no idea if he has the passion for city do we but most probably not - just like anyone before they sign - when they realise they might sign, they see the set up, talk to the gaffer and see the pay check - then they might get passionate.if fallon at 300k and boyd at 500k is anything to go by then for sure our bid of [i guess] around 200k obviously is not enoughThe money bit I think we all knew....... .......... double Look elsewhere I think maybe the message........ fine by me ..... wwould not have minded Hayter in a City shirt but.......Can't say the message was that Hayter was that bothered about moving to City.... if you get meh?
havanatopia Posted January 30, 2006 Posted January 30, 2006 The money bit I think we all knew....... .......... double Look elsewhere I think maybe the message........ fine by me ..... wwould not have minded Hayter in a City shirt but.......Can't say the message was that Hayter was that bothered about moving to City.... if you get meh?nope, you are still talking in riddles to me. but i'll take a stab at what i said before and that is you do not think hayter is that bothered about joining us? perhaps we'll never know.
Rednready Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Been a supporter since the 1940,s, and every chairman/manager has his own style, and SL is no exception. Steve is a huge City supporter he craves success and he wants the love of the supporters through his chairmanship. His act of pulling the SL Forum shows his anger and passion, understandable considering some of the brain dead questions he was asked . Good for him! I believe he will sign Hayter today, for us the fans, for himself, because he can afford it, and for BCFC because it is the daily life blood for each and everyone of us. Bacon and eggs, as is Hayter and Brooker. IMO it will work, and if it works in the remaining months of this season, players will again see BCFC as a club to be with. We will be seen again as a future promotion candidate. IMO it will be done.
Guest Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 It's intresting that you implement they are holding out for more moneyYet they accepted the Huddlesfield bid which for all we know could have been less than the current offer on the table from BCFC They have 9 hours before they lose it all, now thats some gamble...
CodeRed Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 It's intresting that you implement they are holding out for more moneyYet they accepted the Huddlesfield bid which for all we know could have been less than the current offer on the table from BCFC They have 9 hours before they lose it all, now thats some gamble...The deadline is midnight, ( not 5.00pm which was the deadline time on the old March deadline that )So we have a bit longer to wait!
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Bournmouth have offered Hayter double his wages. I think that they will give him until Dinner time today to accept. If he doesn`t sign then they will prob. accept our offer. I can`t see them letting his contract run out. That much money means too much to a club like Bournmouth.
Guest mnporter2001 Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 he is as good as gone imo after reading that,and to be honest i couldnt give a damn if he comes to us or not this whole thing is turning into a fiasco.the city powers at be decided a resonable figure for him and offered it then when told that it was not enough upped the offer,we simply cant afford to keep paying over the odds on players,we are already making a loss and with hayter banging on about his next cintract is the important one that means big wages,we allready have m.s on silly money.anyway as you can see i just want this saga over either way (not long to wait i supose)
Guest Mikenoski Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Would their Chairman really risk a statement like this if he wasnt confident?PETER Phillips believes James Hayter will still be a Cherries player when tonight's transfer deadline passes.Despite fielding another phonecall from Bristol City chairman Steve Lansdown over the prospect of signing the club's 16-goal striker, the Cherries chairman has stuck to his guns - and presumably the original price tag that City were not keen to meet.That means time is running out for City if they, or any other interested club, are keen to complete a transfer ahead of tonight's midnight deadline.Phillips told the Daily Echo: "I have heard from Steve Lansdown again and spoken to James's agent, but there is no change on our original position."If you wanted my prediction, it would be that James will still be a Bournemouth player on Wednesday."I suppose there is enough time for that to change, but it is getting pretty tight now and if anybody came in for him, it doesn't really give us a chance to get a replacement in. That means we would be less likely to do the deal."People have known about James for the whole of the month and they should have spoken to us by now if they were really interested."
i_am_red Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 christ this is getting silly now, both clubs are trying to sound uninterested wether the deal goes ahead, but its obvious we want him but tryin to keep the fee down and its clear that bourenmouth are trying to get a high price.Its like both of us are playing hard to get and hayter is the romance that will never happe (kind of)I bet we sign him right at the last minute.
Bristol Boy Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Tells me that apart from Huddsfld we were the only bidder and that we should have done something about this before the window and got him in from Jan 1st.Of course, if they wanted silly money, more than £150-200k) one can then drop interest and move to other targets.Let's see what happens between now and five but it's all to late now, particularly if we don't know the players likely demands.First time I've heard his agent mentioned though..........
gazareth Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 I understood the deadline to be midnight ? maybe not.Could make a difference.Yep, it's midnight.
Colemanballs Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 http://www.bournemouth.vitalfootball.co.uk...icle.asp?a=8325this'll work Having read that, I wouldn't touch him with a bargepole. The guy comes across as a total mercenary, not the sort of person we want to introduce into the club at this time. He knows he only has to wait a few more months to command a significant signing on fee and any club that wants to sign him now is going to have to make it very much worth his while. Even if we were to agree a fee with Bournemouth I doubt we could agree personal terms with him with that attitude.
Guest Mikenoski Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Its likly that the agent has only been mentioned because BoreMuff want Hayter to sign this new contract... To their fans it would be just as good as a high profile signing.
Guest maidenheadred Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 What ! A footballer mercenary ! What is the world coming to... he's only doing what you or I would do: looking after himself, so presumably he has more money to spend on the mortgage/family/booze. Why people still get suprised at this (and call likes of Leroy and Aaron Brown 'judas') still baffles me...
Southport Red Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Why people still get suprised at this (and call likes of Leroy and Aaron Brown 'judas') still baffles me...I've never heard anyone call Lita 'Judas'. "Good luck mate" was the overwhelming reaction as far as I recall.Now Aaron...
Guest Harry Dolman Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 I've never heard anyone call Lita 'Judas'. "Good luck mate" was the overwhelming reaction as far as I recall.Now Aaron...To be honest I wouldn't call Aaron judas, I'd call him ill-advised. Whilst suffering from avery serious long term injury, he chose to decline a new deal. Funnily enough prospective new clubs weren't that keen on taking on a crock.At least he has ended up at the City seniors side!
Meh Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 Jesus man; don't mention "The Sun" on here.rich###### or whatever his name is will be telling us how he won't read that tripe since Hillsboro again.You are a stirrer, you little tinker!
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