Guest Ivan_is_a_legend Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 does this mean that we are changing the home and away kits for next season?when will clubs start showing some loyalty to the supporters and stop changing the kits every season.although i do not buy shirts for myself, i do for my little boy and these shirts are not cheap at the best of times!!!SORT IT OUT!!! :@ :@ :@
Pie Eater Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I think you will find that we are having a new shirt manufacturer chosen by the fcf. Because our current one is no SO shoddyIt is suppose to be a proper brand.What I think is more outrageous is that the women shirts are cheaper. Less demand would mean higher costs but they are sold cheaper than the men's.edit typo
Guest revkev Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I can understand the need to change whenever there is a change of shirt sponsor, but why not get the sponsorship deal for 2 seasons? It can't be THAT difficult to negotiate a 2 year contract, thus keeping the same kit for a couple of years and putting hard pressed parents from going bankrupt every August.
Sirben Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I might buy 2!!! Its all about making money, by having another year with a manufacturer they are likely to make a bit of money but no where near the amount they make from the number of new shirts they sell each year!!Unless they sign a 2 year contract and start selling shirts for 80 quid?
Guest revkev Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I might buy 2!!! Its all about making money, by having another year with a manufacturer they are likely to make a bit of money but no where near the amount they make from the number of new shirts they sell each year!!Unless they sign a 2 year contract and start selling shirts for 80 quid?There was a time when City cared about their supporters. THOSE WERE THE DAYS...............
rayer Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Look at the condition of this seasons shirts after this year, don't think they will even last until July !!!!!
Moth Eaten Pillow Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 does this mean that we are changing the home and away kits for next season?when will clubs start showing some loyalty to the supporters and stop changing the kits every season.although i do not buy shirts for myself, i do for my little boy and these shirts are not cheap at the best of times!!!SORT IT OUT!!! :@ :@ :@Something to do with Puma coming in for next season.
RedM Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I'd like it to go back to when we used to change the home and away shirts in alternate years, ie you'd keep the same shirt for 2 years.The problem with that is not only is there sponsorship issues and less money generated from sales, but with the quality of the recent shirts they don't last one season never mind two! Also if the shirt design is unappealing you are stuck with it for 2 seasons, so at least by changing next season our 'champagne' strip is placed on the sale rack!
Guest Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 does this mean that we are changing the home and away kits for next season?when will clubs start showing some loyalty to the supporters and stop changing the kits every season.although i do not buy shirts for myself, i do for my little boy and these shirts are not cheap at the best of times!!!SORT IT OUT!!! :@ :@ :@Whats new about a new kit, I don't think I can remember the last time we kept the same shirt for two seasons.. must be well over 10 years since we did Every club in the country does it, its probably one of the best forms of incomming for a club during the summer months (ST sales aside)
Guest Cary Grant supported City Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 As well as the cost and the manufacturer of next seasons shirt, i am also looking forward to which high profile company the Bored have secured as shirt sponsor, and to see what crap colour they've chosen for the away shirt!!.
Guest bristolmod Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Bringing in a big shirt manafacturer would mean less money for the club...if its a big sponsor like nike/adidas/puma, they'll demand certain things for example a clause would be inserted in the deal where they can sell the shirts to big shops for example: jjb/sportsworld, who in turn can knock them out much much cheaper than what the club can, and your having a laugh if you think the cut we'd get paid(if any) from sales from the big shops is worthwhile then your sadly mistaken.with tfg you don't get them being sold in other shops so thats profit for our club.with tfg the kits are more than likely a lot cheaper to buy so thats profit for the club.however you can sometimes go with big name shirt manafacturers through smaller companies but your then your far more liable to get shirts running out by christmas.
arpaul Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Bringing in a big shirt manafacturer would mean less money for the club...if its a big sponsor like nike/adidas/puma, they'll demand certain things for example a clause would be inserted in the deal where they can sell the shirts to big shops for example: jjb/sportsworld, who in turn can knock them out much much cheaper than what the club can, and your having a laugh if you think the cut we'd get paid(if any) from sales from the big shops is worthwhile then your sadly mistaken.with tfg you don't get them being sold in other shops so thats profit for our club.with tfg the kits are more than likely a lot cheaper to buy so thats profit for the club.however you can sometimes go with big name shirt manafacturers through smaller companies but your then your far more liable to get shirts running out by christmas.When City changed supplier to TFG, didn't Mr Sexstone say that, Bristol City were dealing directly, with the manufacturer, and as such, "cutting out the middle man". By doing this, City could cut the costs and pass on savings to the supporters who buy replica jerseys.I buy a new kit for my son, and can assure you, I haven't noticed any reductions in the kit prices since the change to TFG. The only change I have noticed is that the club have done away with quality. The current sponsor on my sons shirt reads: risto ade entre Would I be wrong in suggesting that any cost saving the club are making are going straight to their bottom line?As regards to replica shirts being sold in other outlets, other than the official shop, why not? Would you rather see young lads wearing Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea shirts. There seems to be a bigger market nowadays for European teams shirts, not because of any allegiance but because of shirt design and quality. Why not have City shirts hanging next to the big boys colours. If the product is good, it will sale.The biggest market places in the region are surely Broadmead and The Mall. Why not take the product to the people.Is it not better to have a small share of something as opposed to a large share of nothing?
Gilli74 Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 even at half price, thats still well over priced for the extremely POOR quality of this years shirt.....Lets just hope this is all rectified in the the choice of shirt and supplier brought into place for next season.....
MattyAli Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 As regards to replica shirts being sold in other outlets, other than the official shop, why not? Would you rather see young lads wearing Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea shirts. There seems to be a bigger market nowadays for European teams shirts, not because of any allegiance but because of shirt design and quality. Why not have City shirts hanging next to the big boys colours. If the product is good, it will sale.The biggest market places in the region are surely Broadmead and The Mall. Why not take the product to the people.Is it not better to have a small share of something as opposed to a large share of nothing? I agree, by putting our shirts in high street shops it will introduce the younger generation to the Bristol City brand and hopefully if we see an upturn in our fortunes on the pitch will help swell attendances, more money for the club, etc etc.... as for changing the shirts every year, I think that is just the norm in football now and we have to get used to it.
Guest bristolmod Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 When City changed supplier to TFG, didn't Mr Sexstone say that, Bristol City were dealing directly, with the manufacturer, and as such, "cutting out the middle man". By doing this, City could cut the costs and pass on savings to the supporters who buy replica jerseys.I buy a new kit for my son, and can assure you, I haven't noticed any reductions in the kit prices since the change to TFG. The only change I have noticed is that the club have done away with quality. The current sponsor on my sons shirt reads: risto ade entre Would I be wrong in suggesting that any cost saving the club are making are going straight to their bottom line?As regards to replica shirts being sold in other outlets, other than the official shop, why not? Would you rather see young lads wearing Manchester Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea shirts. There seems to be a bigger market nowadays for European teams shirts, not because of any allegiance but because of shirt design and quality. Why not have City shirts hanging next to the big boys colours. If the product is good, it will sale.The biggest market places in the region are surely Broadmead and The Mall. Why not take the product to the people.Is it not better to have a small share of something as opposed to a large share of nothing? i don't believe that by putting our shirts in bigger retail outlets would increase the amount of people buying our shirts. Simple, if you want a city shirt you'll go to the ground or broadmead(when it was open) or the net.At our level you won't find little lads going to jjb's with there hearts set on a chelsea top changing there minds when they see a city top.if alot of teams are selling there kits for £40 then i'd sell ours for the same amount, we'd more than likely be getting the shirts cheaper from tfg and the money made on that would go towards paying off debts or buying players?!it's one of the simplest ways to support your club finacially and some people just don't get it.why would the gas pull out of there kit being sold in shops up to last season when you could get it anywhere,if they benefitted from it.Admittedly aswell the quality of our shirts have been bad, and in my opinion would straight up change the kit manafaturer but i wouldnt look as far afield as nike etc.the answer probably lies closer to home
Guest bristolmod Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 hmmm how ironic.JJB will have the city kits soon.. i've got a feelin...
Guest revkev Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 hmmm how ironic.JJB will have the city kits soon.. i've got a feelin... NO!!!!! MORE PROFITS FOR WHELAN TO SPEND ON HIS PET FOOTBALL TEAM!!!!!! :@ :@ :@
Guest bristolmod Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 the jjb lady seemed a bit suprised when i told her city are selling them for £20 now!!
Dinky Gems Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I don't see why this is such a suprise, this has happen every season for the past nine or ten years, the same with every club. Its not guna change. Its just up to the fans if we want to buy into to it every season. xx
Guest revkev Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 One way to buck the trend is to buy a retro shirt, classy, hardwearing, and a reminder of the glory days at Ashton Gate. Stuff the shirt sponsors, kit suppliers, etc.
Guest i remember dickie rooks Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Unfortunately, the supporters have to pay one way or another. It takes a certain amount of money to run BCFC, which has to come from the customers in one form or another. If we only changed our shirts every two years, or reduced the prices, then the total income would go down. Thereore the shortfall would have to come from somewhere else i.e. ticket prices.The problem is that every one wants to reduce prices but still buy players, improve the ground etc.Let's face it, in todays football world where players can earn more in a week than a nurse earns in 8 years, we have to accept paying over the odds until the bubble bursts and costs become more manageble.Personally, I have never looked at any football shirt and thought that it represented good value for money. It's just a way to give money to the club and show allegience. (but I must admit that my white away shirt from last season must rank as the poorest material I have seen)
swampy Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 The only shirt you will ever need:http://www.toffs.com/invt/1045although the old man says this is the real shirt:http://www.toffs.com/invt/1044And top quality for £32.99p
Guest Cider_Army Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Will JJB and the like stock the shirts though seeing as they are big national stores. Don't they have to have the same stock for each of their stores.
Moth Eaten Pillow Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Will JJB and the like stock the shirts though seeing as they are big national stores. Don't they have to have the same stock for each of their stores.No, jjb stocks the sags shirt - I can't see them selling many of those in their Inverness store.I guess its down to the area managers what shirts they stock.
Antman Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 The current sponsor on my sons shirt reads: risto ade entre I think you'll find thats latin for 'we want your cash'
cider army on tour Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 If you don't like the club changing the kit every season don't buy one. It really is as simple as that.
One Team In Keynsham Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 The only shirt you will ever need:http://www.toffs.com/invt/1045Totally agree. The only shirt I have is a retro away in white. No polyester, no sponsor, no need to change each year.Given up buying the replica garbage that the club has on offer. Its not just the poor quality, its also the poor design: I have nothing positive to say about the home or the away shirts this season (save that the home one is red): in my opinion they are amongst the worst pair we have had for a while.Here endeth another rant.
richieb Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 If you don't like the club changing the kit every season don't buy one. It really is as simple as that.Understand all points on this one.There are some fans that would like to buy some decent merchandise, but have been fed up with the poor quality & designs of the TFG product.I think that the club may be on the brink of a deal that would address the demands of the majority of fans.It will bring a real buzz.
cider army on tour Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Understand all points on this one.There are some fans that would like to buy some decent merchandise, but have been fed up with the poor quality & designs of the TFG product.I think that the club may be on the brink of a deal that would address the demands of the majority of fans.It will bring a real buzz. If it is who I have heard then I might even buy a replica kit myself. Will certainly bring a lot more "class" to the club than the current kit thats for sure.
richieb Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 If it is who I have heard then I might even buy a replica kit myself. Will certainly bring a lot more "class" to the club than the current kit thats for sure.It won't be just the replica kits that will sell, but the whole range of gear will be sought after.
Redmin Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Just bought 3 shirts for my lads £52.50 Bargain
NailseaRed Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 totally. if you put a quality name to the shirt you're guaranteed quality. I will definitely buy a shirt next season if it ISN'T TFG. the TFG qualtiy was the worst shirt i have bought in the last ten years, absolutely shocking. I bet if we change to nike/puma/adidas shirt sales will rocket and likelihood is it will look better too, due to better designers. Stick in the sports shops in town too, sometimes it's easier to get to town than it is to ashton gate, and yet again sales will go up. Maybe a city fan whose physical support has faded will see a nice city shirt and think yeah maybe this year i'll get one.
Nibor Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I'd say having a new kit every year is a preferable way of making money than bumping up the ticket prices. I do feel for parents of kids that want the new top, but at least it's more optional than going to games.A decent manufacturer will definitely bring more sales, and might actually last a bit too.Nibor
One Team In Keynsham Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I do feel for parents of kids that want the new top, but at least it's more optional than going to games.Surely making kids realise that they can't have everything that they want is a positive thing? Teach the kids a good lesson in life AND don't waste cash on shoddy merchandise. Double whammy, job's a good'un.
cityed Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 what have you all heard? what the rumour for kit make?
Guest bristolmod Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 No, jjb stocks the sags shirt - I can't see them selling many of those in their Inverness store.I guess its down to the area managers what shirts they stock.The gas have a clause with errea this season whereby only the official shop can sell the shirt. I bet if we change to nike/puma/adidas shirt sales will rocket and likelihood is it will look better too, due to better designers. Stick in the sports shops in town too, sometimes it's easier to get to town than it is to ashton gate, and yet again sales will go up.if you were to go with nike/puma/adidas then teams in our division will get the box standard shirts, the same as many other clubs in the lower leagues but in a different colour, this tends to be because its not done through the big company, its dealt with through a smaller manafacturer using the nike logo etctheres many cons of goin with a "big brand company".The club aren't out to give us a crap shirt.And for stocking it in town...We'd sell a few thousand more possibly, but we'd make no money from it, thats the point of buying it through the club, they benefit from your money.blimey... what have you all heard? what the rumour for kit make?have a guess.. everyone else is.......
BB. Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 They could compromise with us, get a longer term kit supplier and sponsor and then change the home kit one year and the away kit the other season... I generally get the home shirt at the end of the season, although I did pay full wack for the white away shirt last season.I won't be getting either shirt this season though, they don't wear very well I gather from what people have said.
Guest bristolmod Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 They could compromise with us, get a longer term kit supplier and sponsor and then change the home kit one year and the away kit the other season... I generally get the home shirt at the end of the season, although I did pay full wack for the white away shirt last season.I won't be getting either shirt this season though, they don't wear very well I gather from what people have said.jesus christ... read what the other posts say... 2 shirts a season = money1 shirt a season = less moneyhmm mr lansdown.. you're a buisnessman trying to keep this buisness going, what do you fancy: money or no money?!UH.. if the club needs money then it will do what it can to make money..
NailseaRed Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 The gas have a clause with errea this season whereby only the official shop can sell the shirt.if you were to go with nike/puma/adidas then teams in our division will get the box standard shirts, the same as many other clubs in the lower leagues but in a different colour, this tends to be because its not done through the big company, its dealt with through a smaller manafacturer using the nike logo etctheres many cons of goin with a "big brand company".The club aren't out to give us a crap shirt.And for stocking it in town...We'd sell a few thousand more possibly, but we'd make no money from it, thats the point of buying it through the club, they benefit from your money.blimey... have a guess.. everyone else is....... I've seen the bulk standard "big name" shirts and they're better designs than our shirt this season in my opinion. I don't really care if the design is unique, it becomes a unique shirt by the badge not the design. Put a club shop in town then! more people in more city shirts might lead to more people coming in the ground. who knows it might work
BB. Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 jesus christ... read what the other posts say... 2 shirts a season = money1 shirt a season = less moneyhmm mr lansdown.. you're a buisnessman trying to keep this buisness going, what do you fancy: money or no money?!UH.. if the club needs money then it will do what it can to make money..OK, flippin eck, it was only a sugestion that Steve could take the fans needs into consideration as well as the clubs bank balance and maybe reach a compromise.If I was Lansdown and I irritated the fans too much, even if it was to make more money for BCFC, I wouldn't expect them to give me money.If you did bring out a home and away shirt in alternate years then people might be more willing to buy the shirts in the first place, knowing it wont be changed/cheap six months later.If you look after the fans/customers, the fans/customers will look after you!
Guest revkev Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Put a club shop in town then! more people in more city shirts might lead to more people coming in the ground. who knows it might work Isn't there a joint City / Rovers / Rugby club shop in Broadmead?
Red Cloud Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 the standard official line is that "the supporters want a new shirt every year" - can anyone on here say they want to shell out £40 every year? because I don't
LocoPal Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 Ive still got my Admiral shirt (white logo stripe down sleeve) and its still holding up well today! So yes to quality, although its not in the interest of the club to have its supporters to be wearing 6 year old shirts I suppose.
Keepers Ball Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 I don't have a problem with a new kit every year.And yes I am a father who through the years bought one for my son.I still have every shirt from 1998 and still wear them.
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 3, 2006 Posted February 3, 2006 The 'Bristol Trade Centre' writing is shoddy and amateurish to say the least. One thing we've obviously lost with the change of sponsors is the round Das logo which (once i got used to it) was excellent and very recognisably Bristol City at a distance. If we're keeping Bristol Trade Centre as sponsors they should cut out the words and use the 3 letter logo they use on their T.V. ads. Enclosed in a circle over the upper belly of course.
Guest Paul Hudd Posted February 4, 2006 Posted February 4, 2006 The shirts should be £20 anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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