Virtual Manager Type Games

[Port Said Red]

In the middle of the transfer window I mentioned on one thread that I blame Championship Manager for the "we must sign somebody" type posts that appeared on here.

There is also the immediate rush to pull up statistics on any player that is mooted as potential purchase, and while I look at them when they are posted, I never make the mistake of thinking that that is be all and end all of what a player is about. The phrase about "lies, damn lies and statistics" may not be applicable in all circumstances, but apart from a strikers goal to game ratio what do the stats ever really tell us?

Sadly guys, the day is a long way away when we will be able to get a rating out of 30 on a players, stamina, pace, passing ability, heading prowess, etc, etc.

Towards the end of the summer a lot of us felt we had a pretty good squad, statistically speaking we probably did. What we couldn't see was the attitude problems that were simmering under the surface, for all his talk BT couldn't seem to change that culture.

Gary Johnson's method of management appears to show there is still a human element involved when choosing players to play for him, (and I don't just mean signing them, look at the change in Orr and Woodman in particular), creating a squad mentality and generating an enthusiasm for the game. This approach was never more highlighted than with the Jermaine Easter situation, a good signing on paper but apparently not in fact.

I think we all have probably played one or another of these virtual manager games at one time or another and they can be fun and frustrating in equal measure. That, to my mind, is probably where the similarity to being a real Manager ends!

[cider army on tour]

In the middle of the transfer window I mentioned on one thread that I blame Championship Manager for the "we must sign somebody" type posts that appeared on here.

There is also the immediate rush to pull up statistics on any player that is mooted as potential purchase, and while I look at them when they are posted, I never make the mistake of thinking that that is be all and end all of what a player is about. The phrase about "lies, damn lies and statistics" may not be applicable in all circumstances, but apart from a strikers goal to game ratio what do the stats ever really tell us?

Sadly guys, the day is a long way away when we will be able to get a rating out of 30 on a players, stamina, pace, passing ability, heading prowess, etc, etc.

Towards the end of the summer a lot of us felt we had a pretty good squad, statistically speaking we probably did. What we couldn't see was the attitude problems that were simmering under the surface, for all his talk BT couldn't seem to change that culture.

Gary Johnson's method of management appears to show there is still a human element involved when choosing players to play for him, (and I don't just mean signing them, look at the change in Orr and Woodman in particular), creating a squad mentality and generating an enthusiasm for the game. This approach was never more highlighted than with the Jermaine Easter situation, a good signing on paper but apparently not in fact.

I think we all have probably played one or another of these virtual manager games at one time or another and they can be fun and frustrating in equal measure. That, to my mind, is probably where the similarity to being a real Manager ends!

I feel that although Tinnion was never going to take us to promotion he started to sort out the behind the scenes problems as Ashton Gate for which I'm grateful. Now Johnson has come along and completed the jobthat Tinnion couldn't.

[Port Said Red]

I feel that although Tinnion was never going to take us to promotion he started to sort out the behind the scenes problems as Ashton Gate for which I'm grateful. Now Johnson has come along and completed the jobthat Tinnion couldn't.

Maybe, but in the time he was manager he didn't appear to be able to identify what motivates individual players. As I say, the change in some of the players that were part of his squad in recent times suggests that GJ has (after a little bit of a false start) hit the right note with a lot of them.

[cider army on tour]

Maybe, but in the time he was manager he didn't appear to be able to identify what motivates individual players. As I say, the change in some of the players that were part of his squad in recent times suggests that GJ has (after a little bit of a false start) hit the right note with a lot of them.

Couldn't agree more. Basically Tinnion has started the ball rolling and Johnson has moved it onto the next level. We were never going to get anywhere with Tinnion but he had the balls to move a lot of the so called trouble makers out the club. He was always going to struggle to get the respect of the players after the Sheff Wed away incident.

[Maesknoll]

I think we all have probably played one or another of these virtual manager games at one time or another and they can be fun and frustrating in equal measure. That, to my mind, is probably where the similarity to being a real Manager ends!

I haven't.

But I do have a theory of my own, before the advent of Sky, we didn't see nearly so much football on the telly, so were more content to suffer 2nd & 3rd division football without realising what we're missing. Sometimes I feel that there are totally unrealistic criticisms of players and this is fuelled by seeing so much prem & European footy on the box.

Its a double edged sword, as I enjoy watching footy on the box.

[Port Said Red]

I haven't.

But I do have a theory of my own, before the advent of Sky, we didn't see nearly so much football on the telly, so were more content to suffer 2nd & 3rd division football without realising what we're missing. Sometimes I feel that there are totally unrealistic criticisms of players and this is fuelled by seeing so much prem & European footy on the box.

Its a double edged sword, as I enjoy watching footy on the box.

Strangely enough I think highlights are worse, you generally only see the best bits of every game

(obviously, it's in the name ).

On the odd occasions that I do get to see a live Sky prem game (usually when I am in a hotel with work somewhere) I am often struck by the long periods where the quality doesn't appear to be much greater than what we watch, week in, week out.

[tompo]

I've never played Championship Manger or any similar type of game before.

Do they have virtual forums? If so I bet they aren't as interesting as this one.

[The Man In Black]

Another big problem I find is that people complain too much when the statistics are brought up - along the lines of 'who' and as hornbeamred said 'they haven't got a good goals to game ratio' etc.

Let's not forget the league we're in, and the fact that touch wood we're uncovering an unknown gem (something that we're always looking for, and that many people like the idea of Johnson for).

We basically kill any good perception of new players on here before they've even trained.