Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 No wonder this forum has been taken off our official website.Everyone was going on about how great johnson is last week and now we have a load of people slagging him off this week??!!!Look, i think stewart should have started as well but get over it for christ sake, he has done nothing for us and if johnson doesn't think he is up for it he wont play him - and that goes for ANY one of our players.At the end of the day, we lost away to the team with the best home record in the league, to a lucky deflected goal and a late penalty??? How does that constitute johnson getting a barrage of abuse?He is 100% commited to this club, he has changed our players from a bunch of lazy idiots with a terrible attitude, to a squad of players that are working hard to play for this team.So to sum it all up, those who are yet again slagging off johnson:JUST SHUP UP YOU FICKLE IDIOTS AND START SUPPORTING THE TEAMWE HAVE ONLY LOST 2 OUT OF OUR LAST TEN GAMES - AWAY TO 2ND AND 4TH IN THE LEAGUE.
dagest Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 No wonder this forum has been taken off our official website.Everyone was going on about how great johnson is last week and now we have a load of people slagging him off this week??!!!Look, i think stewart should have started as well but get over it for christ sake, he has done nothing for us and if johnson doesn't think he is up for it he wont play him - and that goes for ANY one of our players.At the end of the day, we lost away to the team with the best home record in the league, to a lucky deflected goal and a late penalty??? How does that constitute johnson getting a barrage of abuse?He is 100% commited to this club, he has changed our players from a bunch of lazy idiots with a terrible attitude, to a squad of players that are working hard to play for this team.So to sum it all up, those who are yet again slagging off johnson: JUST SHUP UP YOU FICKLE IDIOTS AND START SUPPORTING THE TEAM - WE HAVE ONLY LOST 2 OUT OF TEN GAMES - AWAY TO 2ND AND 4TH IN THE LEAGUE.I second that.
Robbored Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 As fans we are all entitled to express an opinion whether it be positive or otherwise.Critism of a team selection is perfectly acceptable and doesn't mean that I or anyone else isn't getting behind the team.I'll be at AG next Saturday cheering on the team as usual - even if I don't like the side selected by Johnson.
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 That is fair enough Robbored, you are entitled to your opinion and that is fine.I agree Andrew shouldnt have started.I just cant believe that some people are being so negative after that game.I am having a go at those people who are slagging off Johnson in general, rather than just that one team selectionI just brought that up as an example
Guest Ivan_is_a_legend Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Look, i think stewart should have started as well but get over it for christ sake, he has done nothing for us and if johnson doesn't think he is up for it he wont play him - and that goes for ANY one of our players.why oh why do people keep saying stewart has done nothing for us??? what has savage done for us, what has savage done for any team that has rejected him. just look at their goal ratio and i don't mean their careers, I'm mean for us. need we say more, marcus is miles ahead!and I'm so fraustrated by everyone saying how hard savage works. he got lanky stringy legs that he cant control and runs round like a headless chicken, is that really working hard for the team? don't think so.i've supported city since the day i was born and will always continue too, but that don't mean i cant have an opinion and have a go at any player/manager/coaching staff or tea lady i want too. infact as a season ticket holder i have a right too!!!
Redtucks Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 No wonder this forum has been taken off our official website.Everyone was going on about how great johnson is last week and now we have a load of people slagging him off this week??!!!Look, i think stewart should have started as well but get over it for christ sake, he has done nothing for us and if johnson doesn't think he is up for it he wont play him - and that goes for ANY one of our players.At the end of the day, we lost away to the team with the best home record in the league, to a lucky deflected goal and a late penalty??? How does that constitute johnson getting a barrage of abuse?He is 100% commited to this club, he has changed our players from a bunch of lazy idiots with a terrible attitude, to a squad of players that are working hard to play for this team.So to sum it all up, those who are yet again slagging off johnson:JUST SHUP UP YOU FICKLE IDIOTS AND START SUPPORTING THE TEAMWE HAVE ONLY LOST 2 OUT OF OUR LAST TEN GAMES - AWAY TO 2ND AND 4TH IN THE LEAGUE.I totally agree mate.Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but as I said earlier on another thread, Johnson bases his team selection on what he knows of the players. What their attitidude is, what their fitness is, how they "fit-in" with other members of the team. He sees them every day, talks to them and trains with them.Yet there are so many "experts" on this forum who seem to know much more, based on the fact that they watch them for 90 minutes every two weeks, or maybe every week if they follow the team away.These same people are obviously that knowledgeable that they have all been employed in professional football!!!I am not as qualified as these so called experts, so as a result I am prepared to leave the team selection and style of play to Gary Johnson, who I am sure knows what he is trying to acheive and how best to go about it.As a result I confine my contribution to the wholehearted support of the team, whoever is selected!
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 I almost think some people would rather we lost, so that they could prove their point, see us relegated, and say 'told you so' and be really proud about it with their mates.
dagest Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 and I'm so fraustrated by everyone saying how hard savage works. he got lanky stringy legs that he cant control and runs round like a headless chicken, is that really working hard for the team? don't think so.That only demonstrates to me that you either don't watch City or that you are hopelessly dim.i've supported city since the day i was bornDon't be so absurd. Only a 9-13 year old would say that unless...but that don't mean i cant have an opinionI'll grant you that. I blame myself for keep giving it pointless attention.infact as a season ticket holder i have a right too!!!Ah, a member of the Ashton Gate aristocracy. I concede defeat I can't beat you on that, I salute you sir.
Port Said Red Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 If someone doesn't like a particular decision then fair enough. If someone makes a constructive point about why a decision is wrong fair enough. What I object to is large number of people who want to sack the manager, sack the coach, sack the board etc, every time a result doesn't fit with their little world view. Now, according to some, things were apparently better under Tinnion before that they were better under Wilson and so on ad-infinitum.We lost, to a side with a terrific home record at a ground we rarely do well at to a deflected shot and (from TV pics) a dodgy penalty. We apparently could have got something out of the game, but hey "THATS LIFE" grow up, forget it and move on to the next game.
Chappers Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 In terms of his record at Yeovil, he deserves respect. I will just say that I never liked listening to him as Manager of Yeovil, and since joining City, there are aspects of his Managerial style that I am not fond of. His style is such that you will either love or dislike him, and I think that is reflected on this board.One thing I can guarantee, if we go down, GJ will blame everybody but himself. Had we not had that 9 match blip (Not his fault, of course!) and we had managed to go up, he would have claimed all the credit.
Guest Cary Grant supported City Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 What I object to is large number of people who want to sack the manager, sack the coach, sack the board etc, every time a result doesn't fit with their little world view. Let's sack everybody and start again!!.
Dollymarie Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 If someone doesn't like a particular decision then fair enough. If someone makes a constructive point about why a decision is wrong fair enough. What I object to is large number of people who want to sack the manager, sack the coach, sack the board etc, every time a result doesn't fit with their little world view. Now, according to some, things were apparently better under Tinnion before that they were better under Wilson and so on ad-infinitum.We lost, to a side with a terrific home record at a ground we rarely do well at to a deflected shot and (from TV pics) a dodgy penalty. We apparently could have got something out of the game, but hey "THATS LIFE" grow up, forget it and move on to the next game. Well said that man, I completely agree, we played fantastically against Swansea last weekend, and were very unlucky to have lost yesterday from the sound of it , we cant keep calling for Savage/Stewarts/Johnsons heads everytime it doesnt go our way, and I bet the same people who are now saying Tinman should have stayed, were moaning before he went as well. No pleasing some. Just my opinion mind!
red man dan Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 We lost, to a side with a terrific home record at a ground we rarely do well at to a deflected shot and (from TV pics) a dodgy penalty. We apparently could have got something out of the game, but hey "THATS LIFE" grow up, forget it and move on to the next game.thats the whole point, we could have got something from the game had GJ not selected an absolutely hidious strike partnership. Bas Savage and Calvin Andrew were never going to score goals, hence we were never going to win.......what would have had happened had GJ,s arrogence not got in the way and he,d not let MB go for free and made MS sit on the bench? How many has Savage scored now? 1 from ten..stewart 5 from 15, and remember his goals were when the team were playing much worse than they are currently. We don't need to talk much about MB, his class is now shining through after being given his chance, one GJ never gave him and instead bought in a 19 year old Luton Reject.
Redtucks Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 .......what would have had happened had GJ,s arrogence not got in the way and he,d not let MB go for free and made MS sit on the bench? You don't see it as arrogance that you, with all your day to day knowledge of the squad, feel that you are more qualified to make footballing decisions than GJ then?
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 Michael Bridges scored 1 in 11 games for us!!!Bas Savage has a better record than that!!Look, I was asking for Bridges and Stewart to be given more opportunity with everybody else.My favourite city player is Luke Wilkshire and he NEVER plays anymore.But, I am not going to come on here and moan and moan AND MOAN about it ALL THE TIME.Since johnson has been here:Orr, Woodman, Carey, Heywood, Murray and Cotterill have all upped their games about 50% from what they were doing for tinnion.The players respect him, they are giving 100% and we wont get relegated if we keep palying like we have done in the past 10 games.
Guest ashtonyate Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 No wonder this forum has been taken off our official website.Everyone was going on about how great johnson is last week and now we have a load of people slagging him off this week??!!!Look, i think stewart should have started as well but get over it for christ sake, he has done nothing for us and if johnson doesn't think he is up for it he wont play him - and that goes for ANY one of our players.At the end of the day, we lost away to the team with the best home record in the league, to a lucky deflected goal and a late penalty??? How does that constitute johnson getting a barrage of abuse?He is 100% commited to this club, he has changed our players from a bunch of lazy idiots with a terrible attitude, to a squad of players that are working hard to play for this team.So to sum it all up, those who are yet again slagging off johnson:JUST SHUP UP YOU FICKLE IDIOTS AND START SUPPORTING THE TEAMWE HAVE ONLY LOST 2 OUT OF OUR LAST TEN GAMES - AWAY TO 2ND AND 4TH IN THE LEAGUE.Yes and look where we are 1 place of relagation,how the hell did he not put Stewart on from the start.I don't know what his game is but its not in the best intrest on the club at the moment.
red man dan Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Why would i need to see the day to day dealings of the squad when you just have to look at the results on the weekend.......Bas Savage one goal in ten, Bridges 8 from 10. If making an obvious observation is arrogance to you, then yes i am arrogant.
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 In league two, as your observations are so good you could have noticed that.
red man dan Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Really? i thought Carlise were in the premiership, like i so clearly stated in my post.
no1cityfan_tucks Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Why would i need to see the day to day dealings of the squad when you just have to look at the results on the weekend.......Bas Savage one goal in ten, Bridges 8 from 10. If making an obvious observation is arrogance to you, then yes i am arrogant.Take those milk bottle glasses off mate! Any manager, includin Wenger and Ferguson pick there teams on 50% matchday performace, and 50% training!
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 ps red man dan - i don't know how many 19 year olds can be classed as rejects????Your arguments are quite comically crap to be honest
red man dan Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 no1cityfan,Of course they do, but as MB came out publicly to say he was willing to fight for his place and give everything to earn a run in the team, it is a fair point to assume that he was giving his all in training something that GJ seemed he really wanted. The fact is MB is now playing awesome football has won the league two player of the month and has scored 8 goals in ten games, that to me does not sound like a player who does not train well, especially when you consider how many awfull injuries he has had, he must have made some hell of an effort to still be playing pro football.
Redtucks Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Why would i need to see the day to day dealings of the squad when you just have to look at the results on the weekend.......Bas Savage one goal in ten, Bridges 8 from 10. If making an obvious observation is arrogance to you, then yes i am arrogant.My point was that you felt moved to call GJ arrogant, but do not see yourself as arrogant when, with less knowledge of the players in question, you seem to know better.
Ashcott Boy Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 I agree that Stewart should have started upfront but everyone on here seems to belive he would have definitely scored, if a chance comes his way he is probably more likely to score than Savage or Andrew but it isnt a certainty that he would have scored yesterday.Reading posts on here and talking to a couple of people who went yesterday it seemed as if the service to the front two was relatively poor and we lacked creativity in central midfield. If the service isnt good the likelihood of players scoring is less.I'm a very optimistic person but deep down yesterday i knew it would be very hard to come away with a point. We were missing our best striker, a very good midfielder and a vastly improved right back and we were playing aganist a team who are on a tremendous run of form at home. Our only other loss in the last team games was against Colchester who have won 19 out of their last 21 games.Alot of people on this forum need to be realistic, a squad cant be rebuilt overnight as long as we avoid relegation i will be happy this season and I'm confident we will finish in the play-offs next season.
Pickle Rick Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Yes and look where we are 1 place of relagation,how the hell did he not put Stewart on from the start.I don't know what his game is but its not in the best intrest on the club at the moment.Don't hang yourself about the situation. Classic clique on this forum. Idiot who seems to show lack of optimism.Super Scotty has it spot opn IMO. Although we are where we are at the mo, it is looking promising from the performances our players give week in week out now since GJ took over. I am 110% behind GJ and have every confidence he is the man to get us promoted, maybe even next season (another clique).GJ is bringing the best out of the players. So many have turned their performances round for the better. We are NOT playnig like a scrappy, lifeless relegation side anymore and I am very confident of our survival. YES, we are 1 point off relegation zone, who cares, we should look up the table. We are only 3 or 4 points from mid-table. Funny, no one has barely mentioned this?!? Infact, 4 points off 9th in the league, that shows how close it is. Teams from their down can be considered in relegation contention too!Some of the bull people can come up with is imense.
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 Excellent post Aschott boy.People on this forum really need to get some perspective on the situation we are in.This league may be crap, but unfortunately we are at the wrong end of it, and we are not just going to go away to barnsley and play them off the park.cynic, i would just like to point out to you that we are currently in a lower league, so on that premis you must think he is the right man for the job.
red man dan Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 ps red man dan - i don't know how many 19 year olds can be classed as rejects????Your arguments are quite comically crap to be honestWell I'm glad I'm amusing you, and thanks for your honesty, but i am not ammused that we have two strikers who have 2 goals to their names at any league level strating upfront for us when we are fighting relegation. And as for MB playing in league two, Bas could not get into Forest Green who by the way through my "observations" i found play in the Conference league. Oh and also he has played 10 games at the same level MB is now playing, and guess how many goals he scored? NONE.Your right my argument is crap.
sirscrumpton Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 No wonder this forum has been taken off our official website.Everyone was going on about how great johnson is last week and now we have a load of people slagging him off this week??!!!Look, i think stewart should have started as well but get over it for christ sake, he has done nothing for us and if johnson doesn't think he is up for it he wont play him - and that goes for ANY one of our players.At the end of the day, we lost away to the team with the best home record in the league, to a lucky deflected goal and a late penalty??? How does that constitute johnson getting a barrage of abuse?He is 100% commited to this club, he has changed our players from a bunch of lazy idiots with a terrible attitude, to a squad of players that are working hard to play for this team.So to sum it all up, those who are yet again slagging off johnson:JUST SHUP UP YOU FICKLE IDIOTS AND START SUPPORTING THE TEAMWE HAVE ONLY LOST 2 OUT OF OUR LAST TEN GAMES - AWAY TO 2ND AND 4TH IN THE LEAGUE.Here, here.
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 Right Red Man Dan,Lets agree on some things. 1 Marcus Stewart should have started on Saturday2 Michael Bridges COULD have been better had he been given another chance with GJ3 Bas Savage is not going to set the world alightHowever...1 Marcus Stewart did nothing when he came on, and does not look anything of the player that he was2 Michael Bridges was being paid far too much to do not enough at the start of the season3 Bas was MOM along with Carey vs Swansea (being a striker isn't all about scoring goals)4 To have a go at Johnson based on one team selection is ridiculous, and it is just like people are trying to find anything to slag him off about.Just get behind the team and recognise the improvements we have made in the last few weeks, rather than picking on the bad points
red man dan Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 My point was that you felt moved to call GJ arrogant, but do not see yourself as arrogant when, with less knowledge of the players in question, you seem to know better.I,ll say again, how is making an observation based on FACTS, being arrogant?, of course i do not see the team everyday, but the simple facts are that GJ has got rid of MB who out of ten games at the same level has scored 8 in 10 whilst BS scored 0 in 10, if you are not worried that our manager gets rid of a player who then goes on and scores loads and replaces him with someone who barely ever scores for anyone, then what do you get worried about?And if you can watch GJ,s interviews and tell me the man is not arrogant then i would say you are very much mistaken. He is extremely arrogant.
Brianred Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 I,ll say again, how is making an observation based on FACTS, being arrogant?, of course i do not see the team everyday, but the simple facts are that GJ has got rid of MB who out of ten games at the same level has scored 8 in 10 whilst BS scored 0 in 10, if you are not worried that our manager gets rid of a player who then goes on and scores loads and replaces him with someone who barely ever scores for anyone, then what do you get worried about?And if you can watch GJ,s interviews and tell me the man is not arrogant then i would say you are very much mistaken. He is extremely arrogant.Totally agree with you Dan, You don't need to see the every day view of the club, or be a manager to understsnd football. You cant please everyone picking a team, but when you can see whats going on as a supporter you have the RIGHT to criticize, if some one else doesn't agree with you tough! be sad if were all right. Johnson still has a lot to prove especially with his man management.
red man dan Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Right Red Man Dan,Lets agree on some things. 1 Marcus Stewart should have started on Saturday2 Michael Bridges COULD have been better had he been given another chance with GJ3 Bas Savage is not going to set the world alightHowever...1 Marcus Stewart did nothing when he came on, and does not look anything of the player that he was2 Michael Bridges was being paid far too much to do not enough at the start of the season3 Bas was MOM along with Carey vs Swansea (being a striker isn't all about scoring goals)4 To have a go at Johnson based on one team selection is ridiculous, and it is just like people are trying to find anything to slag him off about.Just get behind the team and recognise the improvements we have made in the last few weeks, rather than picking on the bad pointsAlthough i am sure MB was on a good wage we really do not know what his wage was, and personally i think it would have been worth paying had he been given his chance and found form with us. We will never know for sure whether or not he would have been hitting the net with us, but to be fair, if you read the reports of his games at carlisle you would have to say it is likely he would have.As for Bas, he seems to give his all which is great, but we need MORE than that i am afraid at the moment.We do not have the luxury of a mid-table place to gamble on the likes of Bas and Andrews scoring. If it doesnt pay off, we may go down. I am not having a go at GJ over his team selection, I do not like the man for many different things he has done whilst he has been at the club. His hand grenade tactics i believe contributed immensely to us losing 9 in a row, which ultimately put us in this battle in the first place. I have not been impressed at all with the majority of his signings, (noble is the only one i like), basso appears quite good. I did not like the way he seemed to promise a huge influx of players in jan, and his constant whinging of "this is not my team", it WAS his team from the minute he took over, he didnt complain about the squad after the brentford win did he? He claimed their "was enough quality here all ready to take BCFC to where it wants to go". I could go on, but yes i also agree with you that there has been a good improvement since just before xmas, and the team is now playing much better, but i feel this form could have been reached quicker had he used different approaches, but credit where it is due, we are playing better no doubt about it. We have different oppinions and yours is no less important than mine and vice a versa, however jsut because i am having ago at GJ does not mean i am a "moaner" as some on this site are, and because i do not like what i am seeing at the moment doesnt mean i shouldn,t post my views. This forum is for positive views AND negative ones, what all of them need is sustance, not just blind faith positivie happy clapping views OR needless slagging...both views need a good argument behind them. I feel i have reason to be worried about GJ,s management of the club and my reasons are as above.
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 Well we shall agree to disagree, amicabally!I don't think Johnson has got the best team ability wise out there, but he has got the team out there that he believes will give 100%.As you don't like his managerial style, then it will probably take a long time for you to come around to his way of doing things.However, i do believe that he will do well at this club, and I wholeheartedly believe, that another managerial change in the near future would be disastrous for the club.I would go as far as to say, that even if we did get relegated (not that i think we will), we should keep johnson.This talk of arrogance is a little OTT though, when we beat swansea, all he did was big up the players and the crowd. I didnt hear him say, 'i'm brilliant, look at me, i chose that team, i'm the best'!Lets just see how we play vs Brentford and see what people say on the forum here then!!!
red man dan Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Well we shall agree to disagree, amicabally!I don't think Johnson has got the best team ability wise out there, but he has got the team out there that he believes will give 100%.As you don't like his managerial style, then it will probably take a long time for you to come around to his way of doing things.However, i do believe that he will do well at this club, and I wholeheartedly believe, that another managerial change in the near future would be disastrous for the club.I would go as far as to say, that even if we did get relegated (not that i think we will), we should keep johnson.This talk of arrogance is a little OTT though, when we beat swansea, all he did was big up the players and the crowd. I didnt hear him say, 'i'm brilliant, look at me, i chose that team, i'm the best'!Lets just see how we play vs Brentford and see what people say on the forum here then!!!Fair enough, just one last slight dissagreance though, there are different degrees and ways of being arrogant, of course no one would come out and say "i am the best" etc, but its just the impression i get from the many interviews i,ve watched of him. I simply just do not like the man from what i see of him, but that has NO bearing on my views regarding his managemnt of the club (i don't like wenger, but would love him to manage BCFC), like i said before its all the other stuff that he has done.And as for achieving at the club, i agree with you he may well do well from now on and i don't think a change of management now would be benificial at all, i think it would be a dreadfull thing to do. However he has in my opinion made some BIG mistakes that may cost us dearly, but has also turned things around some what, lets all hope it is enough for us to survive relegation.
shamussy Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Right Red Man Dan,Lets agree on some things. 1 Marcus Stewart should have started on Saturday how noble of you stating that GJ made a mistake in just one game2 Michael Bridges COULD have been better had he been given another chance with GJ ah, so GJ COULD have made another mistake (thats 2 now)3 Bas Savage is not going to set the world alightanother mistake GJ has made? can't be or he wouldn't still be in the teamHowever...1 Marcus Stewart did nothing when he came on, and does not look anything of the player that he was2 Michael Bridges was being paid far too much to do not enough at the start of the season...and how much exactly was the guy being paid?3 Bas was MOM along with Carey vs Swansea (being a striker isn't all about scoring goals)where is the official record showing LC and BS joint MOM?4 To have a go at Johnson based on one team selection is ridiculous, and it is just like people are trying to find anything to slag him off about.I think people have been questionning his selection for longer than that to be fairJust get behind the team and recognise the improvements we have made in the last few weeks, rather than picking on the bad pointsGJ reminds me in many ways of Big Ron. That aside, is he too worried to put MS in the side now as it would be like admitting he was wrong if he does well?I hope we do well, but he has had the team now for around 20 matches and I do find it hard to believe that the signings made before DDay are really the sort of player we need for a relegation scrap. Yeovil are even doing better now than when he left. He has a lot to prove. And why is it that you are happy with people going way over the top saying the guy is practically god, but get so worked up when they say the opposite?
Super Scotty Murray Posted February 5, 2006 Author Posted February 5, 2006 Yeovil are 2points ahead of us!!I will bet you as much money as u like that we will finish ahead of them this season.And another thing, they will be in league two next season.
Redtucks Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 I,ll say again, how is making an observation based on FACTS, being arrogant?, of course i do not see the team everyday, but the simple facts are that GJ has got rid of MB who out of ten games at the same level has scored 8 in 10 whilst BS scored 0 in 10, if you are not worried that our manager gets rid of a player who then goes on and scores loads and replaces him with someone who barely ever scores for anyone, then what do you get worried about?And if you can watch GJ,s interviews and tell me the man is not arrogant then i would say you are very much mistaken. He is extremely arrogant.It depends on what FACTS you want to use.The players who were "playing" at the start of the season got us to the bottom of the division - fact.The players who have played for the past 10 games (which include BS) have got us away from the bottom of the division - fact.Whilst we are not exactly setting the world alight, I think you have to agree that in many aspects we are moving forward, e.g. fitter, better organised, more confident, playing more as a team.As for MB, I would have loved him to have stayed here and scored loads, as I would MS, but it's easy to be wise after the event. There were no guarantees that he would have scored for us or anyone else for that matter, and there wasn't exactly a queue to snap him up was there.I am happy to leave GJ to do the job he has been employed to do. I am sure he has far more knowledge of the players (attitude, character, will to win etc.) than you or I, and I am confident that he will achieve sucess for this club given time.Finally, whilst you are perfectly entitled to you opinion, I do not feel that GJ is arrogant at all.Confident, yes.But I wouldn't expect anything less.
Chappers Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Yeovil are 2points ahead of us!!I will bet you as much money as u like that we will finish ahead of them this season.And another thing, they will be in league two next season.Considering that Webb has asset stripped them in the last Month, that prediction is about as good as mine that Bas will end up below Brooker in the goal-scoring table this season!
downendcity Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 Let's sack everybody and start again!!. We've been there, done it, tried it again and again and look where it's got us?Unfortunately, some will never learn. Our best spell in my lifetime was when the board stuck with Alan Dicks, despite some pretty dire times fighting relegation and many fans not liking him as manager, but look what the end result was. I stand to be corrected, but at the time I think Dicks was the longest serving manager in the league ( certainly in the top 2/3?)Perhaps what we need more tha anything is some long term stability, and although he may not be your favourite person, perhaps GJ might be the man to give us that.
WTFiGO!?! Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 I can rightly be accused of ignorance if I blatantly repeat comments already made in this thread. Mitagatingly, it is a long'n. I did try an flick through most of it but got a little inpatient, sorry.So I'll just say what I think I think.Basically, anyone going nuts about us losing yesterday needs a spot of relativety. Since when have City not been a let down? Blame who you want and vent your frustration but its not going to change anything. I f'ing love it when we win and try to get by when we lose but unfortunately I've come to accept the utter weirdness of this City not having a Football Club that can just go about kicking some a$$. It's a joke we're even playing backward small town Northern inter-breaders in the first place if you ask me but in my life when has this not been the case? So StevieL, GJ, dodgy loans, whatever....things just never seem to change. Somehow it needs sorting. ............................................................................................................................................................ ....crazy little thing called love..... (Queen)
arpaul Posted February 5, 2006 Posted February 5, 2006 No problems at all with Johnson. HoweverWhat eats away at me is that Lansdown sat back, watched and allowed Tinnion to take the club back about five years (perhaps more). Any quality that was available, was allowed to leave for "nominal", "undisclosed" or even free transfers. As a result, Johnson has to restart from the foundations up.However, I am surprised that during January, City were prepared to pay £ 300,000 for Reddy and £ 150,000 for Hayter to add firepower to an inadequate forward line. Why? when we have Marcus Stewart available to us ? The top scorer in last seasons Championship, and one time top scorer of the Premiership not too many moons ago.What I think we all need to know, is why Johnson seems to have a problem with Stewart. Surely, Johnson is man enough to swallow pride if it's for the good of BCFC, as should be Stewart! The money mentioned above would've been better spent on two quality midfielders who can tackle, pass and have an eye for goal. Performances have improved, but relegation is still a distinct possibility, and Johnson must try every combination available to him in order for us to maintain our already low stature in the footballing pyramid
Atticus Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 As fans we are all entitled to express an opinion whether it be positive or otherwise.Critism of a team selection is perfectly acceptable and doesn't mean that I or anyone else isn't getting behind the team.I'll be at AG next Saturday cheering on the team as usual - even if I don't like the side selected by Johnson. hear hear Michael Bridges scored 1 in 11 games for us!!! err and how many of those games did he start? i believe it was 2!!! yes the dizzy high number of 2 Well, at least I've been consistent in saying that I am totally and utterly underwhelmed by the bloke.I think he is a lower league manager with a lower league mentality.And I still remain to be convinced otherwise. 100% agreed, he is a lower league manager with that mentality, he is or seems to be equipping us for 4th division football next year.It amazes me how some of our fans our happy with defeats now that we should of easily won 1-2 years ago.Now from a team that should of been pushing for championship status, are we meant to be happy with losing or drawing EVERY game away without scoring, but if were playing not dire thats ok?And of course a draw at home is a very good point these days.Most fans are unhappy because believe it or not we SHOULD NOT be in this position, and we should not be accepting defeats of draws, especially since this league is so badly poor.
PhatWill Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Well, at least I've been consistent in saying that I am totally and utterly underwhelmed by the bloke.I think he is a lower league manager with a lower league mentality.And I still remain to be convinced otherwise.And you will be emphatically disproved in good time...
Guest DrFaustus Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 The next time you lot go shopping for handbags, would you please let me know? I'll send the senorita along, she'll show you where's best.
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