Download 2006

[BlokeCDP]

I like St Anger, ok it's not a patch on Lightning, Puppets, KEA etc etc but at least they tried to be a bit different.

Hopefully this time around with Rick Ribin behind the knobs he will convince Lars to chuck the tin of Qualty Street he was blatantly banging while recording Anger out of the window.

I'm off to see Metallica in Dublin on the 11th, Guns N Roses also at the same place on the 9th so we may consider standing near the arena for that with a few pints of Guiness! Ahem

I'm seeing Trivium in two weeks time in Baaadiff, and that's cracking news about Maiden - really want to catch them this time around but it does look like we will have to travel again

Hopefully will catch AC/DC this year too!

According to the Trivium website, "Dates for the rest of the mainland Europe (Iron Maiden tour) will be announced March 6th"

[bucksred]

I like St Anger, ok it's not a patch on Lightning, Puppets, KEA etc etc but at least they tried to be a bit different.

Hopefully this time around with Rick Ribin behind the knobs he will convince Lars to chuck the tin of Qualty Street he was blatantly banging while recording Anger out of the window.

I'm off to see Metallica in Dublin on the 11th, Guns N Roses also at the same place on the 9th so we may consider standing near the arena for that with a few pints of Guiness! Ahem

I'm seeing Trivium in two weeks time in Baaadiff, and that's cracking news about Maiden - really want to catch them this time around but it does look like we will have to travel again

Hopefully will catch AC/DC this year too!

According to the Trivium website, "Dates for the rest of the mainland Europe (Iron Maiden tour) will be announced March 6th"

If Rick rubin is producing it may be a comeback. You will love Trivium, AWESOME band they are. Hope Maiden do play some gigs here, its 2000 since they did a proper tour.

AC/DC, download next year?

Lacuna Coil, are the absolute nads-although, I dunno how they'll do on a festival stage. Saw em at Oxford and they were on fire!

[BlokeCDP]

If Rick rubin is producing it may be a comeback. You will love Trivium, AWESOME band they are. Hope Maiden do play some gigs here, its 2000 since they did a proper tour.

AC/DC, download next year?

Lacuna Coil, are the absolute nads-although, I dunno how they'll do on a festival stage. Saw em at Oxford and they were on fire!

I do like the albums of Trivium. AC/DC were rumoured to do a few dates to support the new album so fingers crossed.

Anyways, back to bed, flipping illnesses!

[Dorset_Cider]

There should be some metal on the sunday at least, as that has always been the heaviest of the three days, if they don't get at least a few metal acts then it will not do well, as lets face it for more brit-pop style music Glasto is so much better than Reading in every way possible, the only reason reading got big was because of the demise of the donnington festivals like the monsters of Rock, which left an open gap which reading exploited. But the lineups have been getting steadily worse over the years, last year was a shocker, Iron Maiden being pretty much the only descent band there.

Tool haven't toured since Lateralus, the new album is finished and is due sometime around may accoridng to maynard, it's been five long years but it should be worth the wait, just like with Teeth was worth every single second of the 5 years that trent took with it.

I'd love to see them go old school style with Donnington at least once, that would be awesome, before some of the bands dissapear. How cool would that be ? a weekend history of metal. I know i'm dreaming but immagine having the three most influential metal bands headlinging the three days, Ozzy (as he started it all, sabbath were the first metal band) Judas Priest (just generally awesome Metal as it should be) and Iron Maiden (arguably the most influential metal band of all time, although they themselfs were influenced by their slightly earlier contemparies Judas Priest). Then pull out some of the best matal bands to come since, Metallica (even they couldn't begrudge playing under any of the other 3 acts, as they owe their very existance to the likes of priest and the NWBHM like Maiden) Slayer etc, Grab bands from the other sub genres, get some grunge there, Pearl Jam, Jerry Cantrell (alice in chains), get some good 90's metal there, Fear Factory, Sepultura/Soul fly, Machinehead, get some really heavy stuff, like in Flames, Opeth get Mike patton there as he is just awesome, nice bit of Tool would go down well too.

Even bung in some nu metal if you like, and some Emo to get a few of the little kiddies to go. Make them see that when i sit there saying that their favourite emo band play simplistic crap, it's not because i don't like it it's because when you compare that to Adrian and Dave from Maiden ripping through a solo in perfect time together, or swapping playing a solo half way through, hearing dimebag play the solo off The Sleep on cowboys from hell,or hearing Mikael Akkerfeld go from sickeningly heavy death metal vocals in one second to vocals that would not be out of place in any church choir on this planet, or hearing phill Anselmo sing with the sheer anger that only he can, or hearing Danny Carey bang out some of the most complex drum work immaginable. That MCR are just banging out a few power chords with whiney screachy vocals, and people wonder why i think they are gash Or people who think Trivium are the best thing since sliced bread (i like them and they are good) but just listen to Come Clarity, In flames new album and it is instantly obvious where Trivium get their style from and In Flames simply do it better.

It pains me to say it but Metal is dieing, not because it is becoming unpopular but it's popularity is strangling the life out of it, it's all the same now with a few exceptions but not enough. When i started listening to metal 11 or so yars ago now, there was not only the wealth of music already about, but some bands were coming into thier prime, not long before Sepultura had released Chaos AD (their defining album) and were about to release Roots, Fear Factory had released the interesting Soul of a new Machine and were about to follow with one of my personal favourite metal albums Demanufacture. Machinehead were releasing a debut album which made me sit up and think "wow" after hearing Burn My Eyes for the first time. Marilyn Manson was actually good, and not so far up his own arse he can see what he had for breakfast. There were a flood of new bands that kept it interesting and were banging out some damn good music. The last debut album that made me sit up and take note was SOAD, which was 8 years ago now.

If i was in that position now, being 11, not realy knowing anything about the genre in general, i don't think i would be able to get into Metal, because i relied so heavily on the new bandscoming out at the time to find what i liked, i just don't think i could do that now. I don't think there is enough diversity in new artists now, i bought some seriously cack albums in my early ventures into the world of metal, but it was all part of the learning process, now there is so much new stuff that all sounds the same that it's not easy to find what you like unless you know what you are looking for, even i struggle at times now to find good metal, except from bands i know.

Metal has given me so many memories that i will never forget, like te feeling of being in a crowd of people going mental for the first time when i was 13 seeing Biohazard, or stomping around like a nutter hearing Pantera tear through their songs at Ozzfest, seeing an crowd calm and then just burst into complete carnage when Fear Factory kicked into Shock when i saw them in 97 or so, or the sheer presence of seeing NiN Last july, i have never felt anything like the feeling of hearing Hurt Live, and the feeling i know i will get when i see Tool when they tour. The music has been with me through both good, bad, great, poo and indifferent times, and it just pisses me off that the last metal album of a completely new band i bought was Triviums album, and the rest of the time i'm finding bands that have been around for ages, or just the steady stream of new releases from bands i have been listening to for years.

The good new music i have been buying at the moment is not in the metal Genre, there is some stunning Drum and Bass coming out at the moment, Dj shadow is coming out with some incredible trip-hop, but i deerly want to be buying great new metal albums, it's my favourite music and one that is very dear to me (well i suppose it has to when i have about 1,800 quids worth of metal albums) but i jsut can't find them

Anyway that was a random and pointless rant, but it was fun If anyone made it this far umm cheers.

Now for me...... you would need to add Led Zep, Deep Purple and Hawkwind....... to make it a good bill ?

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Now for me...... you would need to add Led Zep, Deep Purple and Hawkwind....... to make it a good bill ?

Hawkwind good burt for maximum rock nroll s gotta be Skynyrd, Blackfoot, Whitesnake, AC/DC, Priest, Maiden, Motorhead, Saxon, Girlschool, Rose Tattoo, and Lizzy, Velvet Revolver, & UFO.......

gotta stay functioning aincha!!........ too many solos in a Zep and Purple set.

[Spud55]

Now for me...... you would need to add Led Zep, Deep Purple and Hawkwind....... to make it a good bill ?

Depends what you are going for, a great rock bill yea they would have to be there as they are all incredible, but a great metal bill i wouldn't put any of them there as they are not metal, that was started by sabath so i wouldn't put them on a bill that was metal

Thinking aout giving download a miss now, if i can convince my mate it's a good idea i will hopefully go to rocksilde in denmark, they have most of the good stuff off the Download lineup, plus they have Dylan, Opeth and Sigur Ros, who i would love to see, and including return flights it will cost about 200 odd quid for a weeks camping and the festival, so i'm hoping to go to that now.