Red Robin Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 The guy would have scored bucket loads for us.However GJ for one reason or another did not want him here.Personally the figures banded around for him was small fry compared to his value at present.I would loved to have seen him in the red shirt.To me the guy came across well on Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcchris2016 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Apparently, some people on here are now saying Jermaine Easter actually turned us down. Not Gary Johnson turned him down.But i disagree with this post, I don't think Johnson would lie over some average (at the time) Stockport player. Amazing that at the time, People praised and liked Johnson after pulling the plug on a player he described as having a 'Big Ego'. But now he scores a few goals in a micky mouse competition and a league below us and all of a sudden, Johnson is a waster.Even Phil Jevons scored around 30 in league two a few seasons back, and he has not set ashton gate alight with his football skills has he. But i'd like to think his time will come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I think everyone praised Johnson when it was reported that he turned down Easter for having a big ego.Unfortuantly some people always need a stick to beat the manager with, and unfortuantly need to start a new thread on the matter just to satisfy their big own big ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I think everyone praised Johnson when it was reported that he turned down Easter for having a big ego.Unfortuantly some people always need a stick to beat the manager with, and unfortuantly need to start a new thread on the matter just to satisfy their big own big ego.Big ego, with a penchant for capital letters aswell....the worst kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Robin Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 I think everyone praised Johnson when it was reported that he turned down Easter for having a big ego.Unfortuantly some people always need a stick to beat the manager with, and unfortuantly need to start a new thread on the matter just to satisfy their big own big ego.Is it Easter with the big ego or GJ this is the big question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Is it Easter with the big ego or GJ this is the big question.Its only a big question in your mind, and a few others who need to try to find some way of dissing the manager. Gj wasn't happy with the blokes attitude which meant a host of other top clubs competed for the guys signature (cough), and the MIGHTY Wycombe signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Management is all about making decisions and they guy seems very laid back to me-Not arrogant or big headed-just laid back and the fact that he didn't throw his arms around GJ's neck and say please can I sign seems to have worked against him.You'll get more of that as you go up the divisions and, at the highest level, there's a real art in managing people who actually don't need to even play to be set for life, on a number of occassions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellyred Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Easter only has scored 12 goals in league two, Mcleod is the top scorer on 17 and I know who i'd rather have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 the fact that he didn't throw his arms around GJ's neck and say please can I sign seems to have worked against him.That the truth is it? That's exactly the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Management is all about making decisions and they guy seems very laid back to me-Not arrogant or big headed-just laid back and the fact that he didn't throw his arms around GJ's neck and say please can I sign seems to have worked against him.So all of GJ's other signings must have done the 'arms round the neck' thing, I guess.You'll get more of that as you go up the divisions and, at the highest level, there's a real art in managing people who actually don't need to even play to be set for life, on a number of occassions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatWill Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Management is all about making decisions and they guy seems very laid back to meVery laid back indeed! As the rumour goes, Easter didn't even bother training in the week we were interested in signing him - despite the fact he knew he might have to play on the Saturday! Very laid back or just plain lazy?!No manager or player is bigger than the club, but football is a game full of people with big ego's from the Premiership to 5 a side on a Wednesday night down Brislington!The fact is, there is a hierarchy and the managers decisions are the ones that count when signing players. I think, if anything, it's a positive thing as it shows GJ to be an astute judge of a player who has some potential.I'm been very happy with GJ's signings at City thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Robin Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Its only a big question in your mind, and a few others who need to try to find some way of dissing the manager. Gj wasn't happy with the blokes attitude which meant a host of other top clubs competed for the guys signature (cough), and the MIGHTY Wycombe signed him.Hey I'm 100% behind GJ never once have I said he is the wrong person for the job.We are in the best position in terms of football for a long while,I'm excited and happy as things stand.My only concern is lack of signings which could undo us before the seasons end.The other being if it costs us promotion,then I would not be a happy bunny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Is it Easter with the big ego or GJ this is the big question.In a recent interview, the Wycombe manager was critical of Easter's attitude. Also, when asked if Easter could play at higher level he replied that he needs to knuckle down more.If I remember, Easter wanted to think the move over. Fair enough, but it would have meant a step up for him. It was also before we were due to play Swansea. He is a Cardiff lad and you would have thought he would have jumped at the chance at putting one over the Jacks. Just maybe, perhaps he had no intention of joining us.I'm happy to back the manager's judgement on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I think it's easy to rue the one that got away if they go on to be successful. At the moment Easter is still only playing at a division below us, can he step up 2 divisions in a short time if we get promoted? Ok we need goals to get us there but long term can he make it? Last night he played well, but much of that was down to Mooney. If we had signed him, remember Brooker has hardly featured this year, would we now be moaning about Easter not producing?Like I said it's easy to remember those we didn't sign, but there are many we've been linked too as well that haven't gone on to produce either. Again hindsight is a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Bob Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 GJ, and anyothet manager for that, lives and dies by they polayers they sign. GJ did what he thought at the time was right. Aftertiming is the easiest form of gloating known to man. Ok it looks like letting Easter go was a mistake, as was playing Bas for all those games, but on the flip side McCombe, Enoch and MaCallister are good signings. As for the issue of Easter having an ego and attitude which was not to GJ's liking, IMO every striker needs these qualities ( bigger the better ) it's what makes them strikers. Probably why Bas was as poor as he was ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Easter only has scored 12 goals in league two, Mcleod is the top scorer on 17 and I know who i'd rather have....And I know who we can afford, so forget McCleod because P'Boro had £1m turned down and we ain't going to part with more than that or anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Robin Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 GJ, and anyothet manager for that, lives and dies by they polayers they sign. GJ did what he thought at the time was right. Aftertiming is the easiest form of gloating known to man. Ok it looks like letting Easter go was a mistake, as was playing Bas for all those games, but on the flip side McCombe, Enoch and MaCallister are good signings. As for the issue of Easter having an ego and attitude which was not to GJ's liking, IMO every striker needs these qualities ( bigger the better ) it's what makes them strikers. Probably why Bas was as poor as he was !Well saidStrikers have to be confident by nature,they need confidence to do the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 That the truth is it? That's exactly the story?Christ, you must have an alert on your computer when I reply to something At the time, GJ said that Easter didn't seem excited by the fact that City were playing the Jacks on Saturday and, as a Cardiff lad, that surprised him.He also said he wanted to speak to Wycombe, consider his options and didn't seem enthusiastic about joining City.If GJ made a judgement on the player based on that one meeting, fine.The fact that the lad is doing well now may prove him wrong in the long term and GJ needs to realise that we are in a competitive market, not the next big thing and players need to have the club sold to them.That's the point I was making about what some others have called a clash of egos.If that's not what you think, fine but post smething contrary don't just have a pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 So all of GJ's other signings must have done the 'arms round the neck' thing, I guess.It's a figure of speech and I guess they must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Very laid back indeed! As the rumour goes, Easter didn't even bother training in the week we were interested in signing him - despite the fact he knew he might have to play on the Saturday!He was in talks with two clubs almost 200 miles from where he was training after they both had bids accepted so that's hardly a surprise and happens all the time. Very laid back or just plain lazy?!19 goals with some of them against Premiership Clubs wouldn't make me think he was lazy beyond motivationNo manager or player is bigger than the club, but football is a game full of people with big ego's from the Premiership to 5 a side on a Wednesday night down Brislington!There must be quite a few ego's about at Chelsea, Man Utd & Real Madrid and the point I made was that they need to be managed.The level of ability to do that is one of the things that determine which managers work at the highest level.The fact is, there is a hierarchy and the managers decisions are the ones that count when signing players. I think, if anything, it's a positive thing as it shows GJ to be an astute judge of a player who has some potential.The decision not to sign Easter could call that into question and all managers have released players and not signed players that they wish they had signed or kept.GJ will be no different in that respect.I'm been very happy with GJ's signings at City thus far.Me to and all we don't know is how well GJ will do when he has money to spend and I'm very glad he resisted the £300k fees required fpr Reddy & Hayter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatWill Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 The fact that the lad is doing well now may prove him wrong in the long term and GJ needs to realise that we are in a competitive market, not the next big thing and players need to have the club sold to them.How does it prove GJ wrong? He wanted to sign Easter, who has scored goals this season albeit in the league below. That suggests to me he is a good judge of player.Things didn't work out in the interview, Easter wasn't suited to coming here and playing under GJ because of his 'laid back' approach.Let's move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I think it's easy to rue the one that got away if they go on to be successful. At the moment Easter is still only playing at a division below us, can he step up 2 divisions in a short time if we get promoted? Ok we need goals to get us there but long term can he make it? Can Brooker, Showumni & Jevons? Last night he played well, but much of that was down to Mooney. If we had signed him, remember Brooker has hardly featured this year, would we now be moaning about Easter not producing?Good point and that perhaps highlights our need for another target man as the same applies to Jevons & JMWLike I said it's easy to remember those we didn't sign, but there are many we've been linked too as well that haven't gone on to produce either. Again hindsight is a wonderful thing.I don't think it's hindsight as the matter was debated at the time.Conjecture as to whether it was the right decision is bound to arise and Man Utd had the same when they released David Platt, for example.I wouldn't think GJ has a problem either way, neither do I and I'm happy to discuss it, although some feel the need to immediately spring to his defence and attack the very fact that the matter has been raised and discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 How does it prove GJ wrong? He wanted to sign Easter, who has scored goals this season albeit in the league below. That suggests to me he is a good judge of player.He didn't sign him and that MAY prove to have been a mistakeThings didn't work out in the interview, Easter wasn't suited to coming here and playing under GJ because of his 'laid back' approach.No problem with that although my understanding is that GJ has players "investigated" before he agrees to sign them and, based on that, Easters attitude should not have come as a surpriseLet's move on.Lets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledinwatford Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 I've been critical of GJ with regard to substitutions, certain team selection and his inability to get the best out of certain players but you can't knock the team spirit he has built. His signings have generally been excellent and I would back him on this one - maybe this guy Easter wouldn't fit in to our squad which is an important point. GJ certainly has a team work ethic going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Apparently, some people on here are now saying Jermaine Easter actually turned us down. Not Gary Johnson turned him down.But i disagree with this post, I don't think Johnson would lie over some average (at the time) Stockport player. Amazing that at the time, People praised and liked Johnson after pulling the plug on a player he described as having a 'Big Ego'. But now he scores a few goals in a micky mouse competition and a league below us and all of a sudden, Johnson is a waster.Even Phil Jevons scored around 30 in league two a few seasons back, and he has not set ashton gate alight with his football skills has he. But i'd like to think his time will come Yeah, if rumours are true we are interesteed in this Cheltenham kid.......be interesting to see who does more in his career. According to some Wycombe fans, they have WBA sniffing round Easter.Now I wonder why they aint sniffing round Jevons then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eddie Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Your missing the point gents. I am actually encouraged that it seems our scouts are on the ball and are tracking players with potential...Johnson seems keen on not letting individuals upset the apple cart and after getting rid of the other bad apples, why would he bring another one in to ruin all of his good work!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Your missing the point gents. I am actually encouraged that it seems our scouts are on the ball and are tracking players with potential...Johnson seems keen on not letting individuals upset the apple cart and after getting rid of the other bad apples, why would he bring another one in to ruin all of his good work!?Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight so Jevons is setting League 1 alight is he?????? No Gollum cant stand anyone who "might" answer back methinks............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eddie Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight so Jevons is setting League 1 alight is he?????? No Gollum cant stand anyone who "might" answer back methinks.............NO Jevons has been diabolical this season.....But how much was that signing down to our scouts!??signings like Showunmi, Mcallister and Mcombe, (and Easter) would have been identified by the scouts and then Johnson would have taken a look himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 NO Jevons has been diabolical this season.....But how much was that signing down to our scouts!??signings like Showunmi, Mcallister and Mcombe, (and Easter) would have been identified by the scouts and then Johnson would have taken a look himself...I refer my right honourable friend to my previous post re standing up for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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