Bristol Boy Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I hope that we'll have a full squad to pick from after our cup replay at Coventry and that, I hope will see Wilsons inclusion on the left of midfield.Whilst not left sided he has played well there,scored a fair few goals and knows how to defend.We need to win the midfield battle and retain possesion far better than we have so far this season, particularly away from home.Going up there with three strikers, a winger and an attacking midfielder just won't work even if we all hope it does.By the way I'll love it if I'm wrong and we go there all gung ho and win 5-3, I just can't see it, that's all.It's time to restore our best defensive unit and pick the team most likely to win.It's a toss up between Jevons & Showumni up front but both can do well as impact players from the bench.Tough on those left out but with games against Coventry & Brighton, everyone should get a run out by the time injuries and suspensions are taken into account.4-4-2.........BASSO..........KEOGH.......CAREY.......MCCOMBE.........MCALLISTER......MURRAY......NOBLE......SKUSE...............WILSON..................BROOKER...............SHOWUMNI...................SUBSWEALEJEVONSJOHNSONFONTAINEMYRIE-WILLIAMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jurssey Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Thought I'd put my thoughts on this one rather than Coventry seeing as I am not going to Ricoh but am heading up to Boundary Park.This is in all honesty I reckon the toughest away game we'll have (more so than Forest) - Sheridan has them playing well as a unit and they were pretty impressive at AG in the 0-0.In saying that, I honestly (and call me insane) see absolutely no reason why we shouldn't go at them (not gung-ho) and make a game of it.If we try and sit back and shore up a point, we are ****ed.I reckon GJ will go, injuries allowing, with the same team as started v Tranmere with Wilson in at right back.Enoch will operate on the left and Jevons and Brooker in the middle.If we give this lot a 2 goal start though we'll be ****ed right over.I reckon a point here 1-1.Porter has a lot of goals but he's a bit of a poacher and an awkward player from what I've seen. Certainly not in the class of a Tyson for Forest or the Scunny front men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I reckon GJ will go, injuries allowing, with the same team as started v Tranmere with Wilson in at right back.Enoch will operate on the left and Jevons and Brooker in the middle.If we give this lot a 2 goal start though we'll be ****ed right over.I reckon a point here 1-1.Porter has a lot of goals but he's a bit of a poacher and an awkward player from what I've seen. Certainly not in the class of a Tyson for Forest or the Scunny front men.I reckon that if we go with either the team that started against Tranmere or even the team that finished, our proud unbeaten record will be gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You Know I Am Right Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I hope that we'll have a full squad to pick from after our cup replay at Coventry and that, I hope will see Wilsons inclusion on the left of midfield.Whilst not left sided he has played well there,scored a fair few goals and knows how to defend.We need to win the midfield battle and retain possesion far better than we have so far this season, particularly away from home.Going up there with three strikers, a winger and an attacking midfielder just won't work even if we all hope it does.By the way I'll love it if I'm wrong and we go there all gung ho and win 5-3, I just can't see it, that's all.It's time to restore our best defensive unit and pick the team most likely to win.It's a toss up between Jevons & Showumni up front but both can do well as impact players from the bench.Tough on those left out but with games against Coventry & Brighton, everyone should get a run out by the time injuries and suspensions are taken into account.4-4-2.........BASSO..........KEOGH.......CAREY.......MCCOMBE.........MCALLISTER......MURRAY......NOBLE......SKUSE..WILSON..................BROOKER..SHOWUMNI......SUBSWEALEJEVONSJOHNSONFONTAINEMYRIE-WILLIAMSorr will play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Championship-Reality Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 4-4-2.........BASSO..........KEOGH.......CAREY.......MCCOMBE.........MCALLISTER......MURRAY......NOBLE......SKUSE..WILSON..................BROOKER..SHOWUMNI......SUBSWEALEJEVONSJOHNSONFONTAINEMYRIE-WILLIAMSI strongly agree with this! Smack on.orr will play This guys a RIOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You Know I Am Right Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I strongly agree with this! Smack on. This guys a RIOT! so you don't think orr will play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Championship-Reality Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Sorry i misread what you wrote. He probably will play however, i don't think he should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 orr will playYou actually may be right about that. an thanks because your reply just earned me a tenner.As I've said, that's the side that I think could win up there.I think GJ will play a side similar to the one that started Saturday and, if he does, we'll probably lose, maybe even heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I think the team needs to be a bit stronger defensively against Oldham to have any chance of a result. I'd go for ;......BassoWilson......Carey.....McCombe.....WoodmanMurray....Johnson.....Skuse......McAllister............Brooker.......ShowumniWilson and Murray on the right should be tight enough, and Woodman and McAllister looks very tight on the left. Noble could do a job instead of Johnson mayber, not really bothered about that - it's the left side where there is a definite problem. Enoch just can't defend properly and allows their right back/winger far too much space which puts pressure on the defence. Great going forward - but at a price.I agree that a more defensive formation is needed at Oldham but I don't see Woodman getting a look in - he's been out in the cold too long.Johnson won't want to tinker too much with personel so I would exepct the back for to be Orr McCombe,Carey,McAllister.What might work would be to pack the midfield,play one up front and try to hit them on the counter -Murray,Skuse,Johnson,Russell and Wilson. Both Wilson and Murray have some pace,Skuse can play defensively as can Russell.Like most City fans I reckon avoiding defeat at Boundry Park would be a great result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I think the team needs to be a bit stronger defensively against Oldham to have any chance of a result. I'd go for ;......BassoWilson......Carey.....McCombe.....WoodmanMurray....Johnson.....Skuse......McAllister............Brooker.......ShowumniWilson and Murray on the right should be tight enough, and Woodman and McAllister looks very tight on the left. Noble could do a job instead of Johnson mayber, not really bothered about that - it's the left side where there is a definite problem. Enoch just can't defend properly and allows their right back/winger far too much space which puts pressure on the defence. Great going forward - but at a price.If we play enoch (or JMW) wide left against Oldham, I think we'll find it very hard to get a result.Totally agree, but why wouldn't you play Wilson in that left midfield slot and Keogh, who has already proved himself in the back four? Going to Oldham with two changes in the back four wouldn't be advisable IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I agree that a more defensive formation is needed at Oldham but I don't see Woodman getting a look in - he's been out in the cold too long.Johnson won't want to tinker too much with personel so I would exepct the back for to be Orr McCombe,Carey,McAllister.What might work would be to pack the midfield,play one up front and try to hit them on the counter -Murray,Skuse,Johnson,Russell and Wilson. Both Wilson and Murray have some pace,Skuse can play defensively as can Russell.Like most City fans I reckon avoiding defeat at Boundry Park would be a great result.GJ has played 4-5-1 before and, without exception, it's never worked.Simple players-Simple Tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I'd keep the same team, wouldnt put noble in as he hasnt had much football this season. Confidence is in the team, no need to shake it around. It could go against us making so many changes in personel and position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 I'd keep the same team, wouldnt put noble in as he hasnt had much football this season. Confidence is in the team, no need to shake it around. It could go against us making so many changes in personel and position.We haven't won away from home in the League in almost four months, doesn't that merit a change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robins72 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 We haven't won away from home in the League in almost four months, doesn't that merit a change?But then Jevons did score his first league goal on a Saturday at the gate this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 We are unbeaten in 14, i see no reason to make so many changes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 We are unbeaten in 14, i see no reason to make so many changes .Count the draws.The game is about winning, not avoiding defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 I just think we need to stiffen up as much as possible on our left, especially away from home, and I haven't seen Wilson on the left of midfield. I have seen McAllister wide left at Huddersfield and he had a decent second half there (first half he was all over the place). With Woodman behind him, I just think that is a strong combination - if Woodman is fit enough. McAllister is left footed and can cross a decent ball too.Agreed and I would have thought GJ would have gone for that combination a lot more than twice-He did it the other way around at YorkWilson seems to be accomplished at right back and with the experience of Murray in front of him, that is a stronger combination than with either Orr or Keogh IMHO.Just worried about Wilsons tackling as opposed to KeoghsBut I'd have no complaints if Wilson played wide left, it's Showumni in that position that worries me.Spot On and for what we gain in attack we lose in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 We are unbeaten in 14, i see no reason to make so many changes .Its simple mathmatics - better to win,lose,win than to win, draw, draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Nose Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Thought I'd bump this to the top in light of Jevo's injury and the Team's outstanding performance last night in the cup.In a way Jevo's injury means that Enoch will be playing with Brooker up front, IMO deffo the best combination.The only other change from the Team that won at the Ricoh will be the perennial left side of midfeild.With Orr playing for his place, maybe worth having a look at Wilson in that role with JMW on the bench for cover/ impact.??????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Out of interest BB and robbored, would you still make so many changes? ( bar jevons ofcourse due to injury) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatWill Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 The team for Saturday must now be:BassoOrr Carey McCombe McAllisterMurray Johnson Skuse WilsonShowunmi Brooker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Agree Phatwill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blagdon red Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I'd go with Phatwill's line-up. Definitely prefer to have a look at Wilson on the left in preference to the still very inexperienced JMW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 The team for Saturday must now be:BassoOrr Carey McCombe McAllisterMurray Johnson Skuse WilsonShowunmi BrookerIf Jevo's fit.....and even if he isn't, that's exactly what I'd do.The players who did so well last night deserve their chance.Subs:Weale, JMW,Russell,Keogh & Woodman (Jevo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 After last night's performance, if Skuse and Jevons are fit, Johnners won't have an easier decision to make all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 I'd go with Phatwill's line-up. Definitely prefer to have a look at Wilson on the left in preference to the still very inexperienced JMW.JMW's best role is that of an impact player at the moment.Give him a season, some goals and added confidence and I'm sure he'll be a player.......then it's a matter of holding on to him, hopefully in The Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc seattle Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I agree with Phatwill as well, though not sure how the Beach Boy will do out on the left. I think if we do that we should for sure put woodman on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatWill Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 If Jevo's fit.....and even if he isn't, that's exactly what I'd do.According to the Evening Post Jevons is out with 2 weeks with ankle ligament damage.Funnily enough, exactly the injury I currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 I agree with Phatwill as well, though not sure how the Beach Boy will do out on the left. I think if we do that we should for sure put woodman on the bench.Player of the season for Cheltm last season, playing wide left midfield and, as a defender by preference knows how to defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 According to the Evening Post Jevons is out with 2 weeks with ankle ligament damage.That'll be two more strikers available for GJ in two weeks then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Just to add that it'll break my heart if, as has been predicted by the ever right Evening sniveller that Skuse could go back to the left hand side of midfield now that Jevo's definetly missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Out of interest BB and robbored, would you still make so many changes? ( bar jevons ofcourse due to injury)Before the Coventry game I would have stuck to the same players but played a different formation against Oldham - 5 across midfield with one up front.I'm not sure I'd stray far from that even after last night's game.After all it was the Cup with not that much to lose and Saturday is a different game a ball game all together.That said the team is full of confidence right now and maybe an attacking formation would suprise Oldham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Thanks for the response Robbored!(still awaiting BBs) Attacking last night seemed to work, with coventry still not having many chances with that. i know oldham are going to be a complete different kettle of fish so to speak, but the players must be buzzing at the mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Thanks for the response Robbored!(still awaiting BBs)Here it is then Attacking last night seemed to work, with coventry still not having many chances with that. i know oldham are going to be a complete different kettle of fish so to speak, but the players must be buzzing at the mo.For some reason we haven't won away in the League for four months and recently, even more worryingly we've started to leak sloppy goals.We couldn't beat and may well have lost at Cheltm & OrientThe fact that we've now won four cup games Orient, Forest (Pens), York & Coventry on our travels, could suggest that the players are freezing at away games.It's certainly nothing to do with ability as last night showed.It could be pressure.I've said that, based on last nights performance and the buzz around the squad, I'd play the same team with the exception of Wilson on the left to give us a more solid shape.I would have done that even if Jevo had recovered, although I doubt that GJ would and we may even see JMW on the left, although for reasons I've stated earlier, I hope not.I pray to God that GJ doesn't revert to the utter failure of Skuse on the left. I wouldn't select Noble because, for me, in a two man midfield it's Noble or Johnson, never both. LJ deserves to maintain his place based on last nights performance and our subs need to be able to cover as many eventualities as possible, which include Skuse leaving the field.Of couse, if Skuse is unavailable, then Noble comes into the squad as our only other available central midfielder, unless of course GJ consider using Keogh in a holding role. The big difference at Oldham is that we are up against a team that has been winning and, on some occassions, winning well, hence a 24 goal difference.Double ours.They don't have major injury worries, or didn't before last night and their confidence will be pretty high-The opposite to Coventry-thus a different, more conservative approach may be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Russel could come in for Skuse if hes injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Boy Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Russel could come in for Skuse if hes injured.And that's exactly why I'd have him on the bench.Any combination of Russell, Skuse & Noble is proven.Some people say Noble & Johnson can work, however, I'm not one of them.If two of our central midfielders are injured then it's hobsons choice I'm afraid unless GJ gives Keogh a try there as he's done as a sub and suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted January 17, 2007 Admin Share Posted January 17, 2007 Its simple mathmatics - better to win,lose,win than to win, draw, draw.Actually it could depend on the opposition. If the defeat came against a direct rival, stopping them getting an additional couple of points is just as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colemanballs Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Actually it could depend on the opposition. If the defeat came against a direct rival, stopping them getting an additional couple of points is just as good.No it's not. Not unless all your other rivals agree not to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted January 18, 2007 Admin Share Posted January 18, 2007 No it's not. Not unless all your other rivals agree not to win. Ok, if the defeat came against a direct rival, stopping them getting an additional couple of points could be just as good.It also depends how many other rival teams you have that could stop you achieving your goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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