had enough!

[formerly known as ivan]

what sort of game do you expect when a team comes to ashton gate and sticks 10 players behind the ball? everyone was looking forward to a high tempo, end to end game. there is only one person to blame for this, paul trollope!

not saying his tactics were wrong as they did what they felt thay had to, but the amount of people having a go at city for their performance is unbelievable. it wasnt the greatest of games, but the boys tried all they could, sometimes to hard when trying the final ball.

rovers set-up with a 9-0-1 formation as a 0-0 to them going in the second leg is a good result. so stop having a go at the way we played. in the second leg rovers will be more open and this will suit us. i have no doubt we will finish the tie of at the mem.

my ticket came through this morning and i am one happy, optimistic person. maybe a few more should be the same

[Guest philgas1]

what sort of game do you expect when a team comes to ashton gate and sticks 10 players behind the ball? everyone was looking forward to a high tempo, end to end game. there is only one person to blame for this, paul trollope!

not saying his tactics were wrong as they did what they felt thay had to, but the amount of people having a go at city for their performance is unbelievable. it wasnt the greatest of games, but the boys tried all they could, sometimes to hard when trying the final ball.

rovers set-up with a 9-0-1 formation as a 0-0 to them going in the second leg is a good result. so stop having a go at the way we played. in the second leg rovers will be more open and this will suit us. i have no doubt we will finish the tie of at the mem.

my ticket came through this morning and i am one happy, optimistic person. maybe a few more should be the same

just take it like a man..its getting embarassing with all the excuses.

[formerly known as ivan]

just take it like a man..its getting embarassing with all the excuses.

not an excuse. an excuse is when you make something up!

not having a go at rovers either, they did what they needed to do. just peed of with our own fans getting on the players/managers back everytime things don't go our way. its a joke.

maybe if the fans got more behind them it may help.

[Riaz]

I disagree. Apart from the last 20 minutes - they never sat back at all - i think we were watching a different game

[Andy082005]

just take it like a man..its getting embarassing with all the excuses.

Firstly mate, I'm not sure where in his post was an "excuse"? Please feel free to enlighten me?

and secondly, take what like a man? The fact you drew with us 0-0? Yes, I'm totally totally devastated! :noexpression:

I agree, its a much better result for you then it is us, but is your club that poor these days that a 0-0 draw with Bristol City is a fantastic result??

I was actually disappointed last night until I heard your lot on the radio about how well you played! The fact is, City were poor last night, but we can crank it up about 5 gears.....if last night is the best you got, you best hope we have another off day next week bud

We'll see who will be making excuses then (probally Phillips blaming the pitch again!!)

[simon uk]

we didnt win cause we had 2 players, plus a keeper who had nothing to do, who actually looked any good. Fair play to Rovers, they did what they had to do to get a draw, but the reason we didnt win was because 8 players plus subs didnt play very well, the manager played the wrong tactics and made the wrong substitions, not because of trollopes tactics.

[samo]

[Guest ashtonyate]

what sort of game do you expect when a team comes to ashton gate and sticks 10 players behind the ball? everyone was looking forward to a high tempo, end to end game. there is only one person to blame for this, paul trollope!

not saying his tactics were wrong as they did what they felt thay had to, but the amount of people having a go at city for their performance is unbelievable. it wasnt the greatest of games, but the boys tried all they could, sometimes to hard when trying the final ball.

rovers set-up with a 9-0-1 formation as a 0-0 to them going in the second leg is a good result. so stop having a go at the way we played. in the second leg rovers will be more open and this will suit us. i have no doubt we will finish the tie of at the mem.

my ticket came through this morning and i am one happy, optimistic person. maybe a few more sh ould be the same

The sort of team that goes to boro and defends??? don't have a go at the gas, if we are not clever enough to break them down plenty of teams do in there own division as they are 10th in there league having watch City this and I am amazed that we are so high in the league as most of the time we struggle and god know how many times we come back to steel a point or two.

[samo]

The sort of team that goes to boro and defends??? don't have a go at the gas, if we are not clever enough to break them down plenty of teams do in there own division as they are 10th in there league having watch City this and I am amazed that we are so high in the league as most of the time we struggle and god know how many times we come back to steel a point or two.

Each time I read one of your posts you sound more and more like a sag, despite the fact you don't even know what their real league position is.

And what is so wrong with winning or drawing gmes after going behind? That isn't the sign of a bad team.

[Bristol Boy]

what sort of game do you expect when a team comes to ashton gate and sticks 10 players behind the ball? everyone was looking forward to a high tempo, end to end game. there is only one person to blame for this, paul trollope!

Nonsense

not saying his tactics were wrong as they did what they felt thay had to, but the amount of people having a go at city for their performance is unbelievable. it wasnt the greatest of games, but the boys tried all they could, sometimes to hard when trying the final ball.

Utter piffle.Did Paul Trollope make our team shoot like a bunch of amateurs and play out of position.Did Paul Trollope make us pass the ball poorly and have absolutely no width and quality in the final third with one shot on goal in ninety minutes?

rovers set-up with a 9-0-1 formation as a 0-0 to them going in the second leg is a good result.

Nonsense-There shape was better than ours and one the players were used to.And they were still poor and couldn't beat us at 50%

so stop having a go at the way we played. in the second leg rovers will be more open and this will suit us. i have no doubt we will finish the tie of at the mem.

Now you might just be right there.

my ticket came through this morning and i am one happy, optimistic person. maybe a few more should be the same

So did mine but that doesn't make the performance any less abject

[formerly known as ivan]

The sort of team that goes to boro and defends??? don't have a go at the gas, if we are not clever enough to break them down plenty of teams do in there own division as they are 10th in there league having watch City this and I am amazed that we are so high in the league as most of the time we struggle and god know how many times we come back to steel a point or two.

we played so well at boro cus them, like us, wanted to play attacking football and it created a decent game. when you have one team set on defending all night. once again i will point out i am not having a go at rovers. it was up to them to play how they felt would best suit them and it worked. its just the amount of abuse city fans are giving the players is unreal. no city fan was impressed with last nights game, but its not all doom and gloom as people are making out. i fully expect a more open game at their place which will be more like the boro game.

teams in league 2 do manage to break them down, but thats because they don't go towrexham, accrington, barnet etc. with their hearts set on defending!!!

[Tunley Legend]

Sorry lads but some of you are sounding well bitter and twisted. Get over it and face facts - Johnson messed up the tactics, should have picked a combative midfield player alongside Noble, should have put Murray on their Left Back who is definitely their weakest link and should stop blaming players when his tactical shortcomings are exposed.

Rovers played sensibly - the onus was not on them to entertain. If we are as good as some of you happy clappies think then we should have forced all that extra class we apparently have upon the Gas and played them off the park - but we didn't. It was us who started to panic and launch the ball long, not them. It was us who substituted the ONLY quality player on the entire pitch. It was us who played poorly. It was us who did not turn up. It was us who were sloppy in the first half. It was us who only created two worthwhile chances.

It's up to US in the form of Gary Johnson getting the team and tactics right and the players putting in a performance like Oldham or Coventry away to force the issue in the return leg. It will be a hostile atmosphere against a team who, realistically even though their fans refuse to admit it, only have this match and a potential Final to play for this season. They will be well up for it and, with potentially huge matches ahead for us, I see this as the first real test this season of the manager and team's ability UNDER PRESSURE.

[Guest reggiedenim]

Sorry lads but some of you are sounding well bitter and twisted. Get over it and face facts - Johnson messed up the tactics, should have picked a combative midfield player alongside Noble, should have put Murray on their Left Back who is definitely their weakest link and should stop blaming players when his tactical shortcomings are exposed.

Rovers played sensibly - the onus was not on them to entertain. If we are as good as some of you happy clappies think then we should have forced all that extra class we apparently have upon the Gas and played them off the park - but we didn't. It was us who started to panic and launch the ball long, not them. It was us who substituted the ONLY quality player on the entire pitch. It was us who played poorly. It was us who did not turn up. It was us who were sloppy in the first half. It was us who only created two worthwhile chances.

It's up to US in the form of Gary Johnson getting the team and tactics right and the players putting in a performance like Oldham or Coventry away to force the issue in the return leg. It will be a hostile atmosphere against a team who, realistically even though their fans refuse to admit it, only have this match and a potential Final to play for this season. They will be well up for it and, with potentially huge matches ahead for us, I see this as the first real test this season of the manager and team's ability UNDER PRESSURE.

yep that is an excellent post... I wholeheartedly agree with you

[Pack’s Chin]

i don't know what ure chattin bout philgas1 u would be making excuses as would all of the other gas heads would if we would of beat you

[Guest ashtonyate]

Each time I read one of your posts you sound more and more like a sag, despite the fact you don't even know what their real league position is.

And what is so wrong with winning or drawing gmes after going behind? That isn't the sign of a bad team.

I am a true City fan but I like to give it as it is, at Boro we were on the defence most of the time I am not knock it thats what a team has to do when you play a team from a higher division and what the Gas done last night

[Guest LibertineRanger]

Firstly mate, I'm not sure where in his post was an "excuse"? Please feel free to enlighten me?

and secondly, take what like a man? The fact you drew with us 0-0? Yes, I'm totally totally devastated! :noexpression:

I agree, its a much better result for you then it is us, but is your club that poor these days that a 0-0 draw with Bristol City is a fantastic result??

I was actually disappointed last night until I heard your lot on the radio about how well you played! The fact is, City were poor last night, but we can crank it up about 5 gears.....if last night is the best you got, you best hope we have another off day next week bud

We'll see who will be making excuses then (probally Phillips blaming the pitch again!!)

It quite clearly was an excuse. He was excusing City's inability to score last night on Rovers' defensive tactics.

It's quite clear that Bristol City are the better team, they're pushing for a place in the Championship, Rovers are half way between league one and the conference. What Gas Head would ever say otherwise? The truth is, City CAN play Rovers off the park next Tuesday, whethwer they will or not is a different question. Rovers have nothing to lose, because their fans are realists and they realise that holding the better team to a draw away from home is a cracking result.

On the other side of the coin, the fickle nature of the average City fan expects nothing less that a 3-0 win and have to either excuse themselves the next day or backpedal to cover their tracks. THis thread is pretty glaringly obviously proving that.

Yet you continue to hype up expectation and pressure for next Tuesday, making a win a necessity. Funny things happen in football and a Rovers win next week certianly wouldn't be the funniest; just ask Vauxhall motors. If the unspeakable does happen, I'm sure they'll be a very similar post on Wednesday afternoon making similar excuses.

Maybe if you puctured the arrogant bubble of expectancy that a lot of you lot live in, being a City fan would be far more bearable.

[Andy082005]

It quite clearly was an excuse. He was excusing City's inability to score last night on Rovers' defensive tactics.

It's quite clear that Bristol City are the better team, they're pushing for a place in the Championship, Rovers are half way between league one and the conference. What Gas Head would ever say otherwise? The truth is, City CAN play Rovers off the park next Tuesday, whethwer they will or not is a different question. Rovers have nothing to lose, because their fans are realists and they realise that holding the better team to a draw away from home is a cracking result.

On the other side of the coin, the fickle nature of the average City fan expects nothing less that a 3-0 win and have to either excuse themselves the next day or backpedal to cover their tracks. THis thread is pretty glaringly obviously proving that.

Yet you continue to hype up expectation and pressure for next Tuesday, making a win a necessity. Funny things happen in football and a Rovers win next week certianly wouldn't be the funniest; just ask Vauxhall motors. If the unspeakable does happen, I'm sure they'll be a very similar post on Wednesday afternoon making similar excuses.

Maybe if you puctured the arrogant bubble of expectancy that a lot of you lot live in, being a City fan would be far more bearable.

Firstly, I think calling us fickle is just a little bit rich coming from a Sag. Yeah we have our fickle element, but what football club doesnt! Every week, whenever Rovers lose......your fans are just as critical on Radio Bristol towards their players as we are!

As for an excuse, hows stating that the reason we didnt score was because of the defensive tactics ? its a REASON! You lot defended very well last night, one of the best defensive displays ive seen down the Gate this season! FACT! not an EXCUSE! big difference between the REASON for not scoring and an EXCUSE for not scoring!

The problem with you Sag fans is that you make out to be the poor defenseless school boy being bullied by the older boys! Boo Hoo. Poor little Rovers, the small family club in Bristol......why are you such a small club? heres why!!....you have no ambition! Were a club with ambition (although with some of the things that goes on its hard to believe), thats why we attract fans with expectations.......when we don't meet the expectations, its disappointing! You speak to a majority of Gasheads and its as if the accept the fact they are a League Two club and thats where you are to stay. If your happy for your club to linger around the basement league then more fool you

So if me thinking that Bristol City should be a Championship club and beating two bob teams like yourself is arrogant....then guilty as charged!

[Guest LibertineRanger]

Firstly, I think calling us fickle is just a little bit rich coming from a Sag. Yeah we have our fickle element, but what football club doesnt! Every week, whenever Rovers lose......your fans are just as critical on Radio Bristol towards their players as we are!

As for an excuse, hows stating that the reason we didnt score was because of the defensive tactics ? its a REASON! You lot defended very well last night, one of the best defensive displays ive seen down the Gate this season! FACT! not an EXCUSE! big difference between the REASON for not scoring and an EXCUSE for not scoring!

The problem with you Sag fans is that you make out to be the poor defenseless school boy being bullied by the older boys! Boo Hoo. Poor little Rovers, the small family club in Bristol......why are you such a small club? heres why!!....you have no ambition! Were a club with ambition (although with some of the things that goes on its hard to believe), thats why we attract fans with expectations.......when we don't meet the expectations, its disappointing! You speak to a majority of Gasheads and its as if the accept the fact they are a League Two club and thats where you are to stay. If your happy for your club to linger around the basement league then more fool you

So if me thinking that Bristol City should be a Championship club and beating two bob teams like yourself is arrogant....then guilty as charged!

I'm not a Bristol Rovers fan.

It isn't the reason you didn't score. It's the reason you got less chances than you needed. If you'd have got a goal, especially early, those tactics wouldn't even have come close to working. Rovers' defensive tactics aren't the reason Brooker missed the target from 8 yards when behind the defense. The reason you didn't score is because you didn't take your goalscoring chances. Therefore, it's an excuse.

[exiledinwatford]

I'm not a Bristol Rovers fan.

It isn't the reason you didn't score. It's the reason you got less chances than you needed. If you'd have got a goal, especially early, those tactics wouldn't even have come close to working. Rovers' defensive tactics aren't the reason Brooker missed the target from 8 yards when behind the defense. The reason you didn't score is because you didn't take your goalscoring chances. Therefore, it's an excuse.

Actually Brooks chance was the only clear cut chance we managed all night. We didn't create anymore to miss! As for being arrogant it's fair to say that our players are better players than theirs (league table) but it doesn't mean we have any devine right to win but it's reasonable to expect to do so. There is a feeling of disappointment at OUR defensive tactics if anything!

[Guest LibertineRanger]

Actually Brooks chance was the only clear cut chance we managed all night. We didn't create anymore to miss! As for being arrogant it's fair to say that our players are better players than theirs (league table) but it doesn't mean we have any devine right to win but it's reasonable to expect to do so. There is a feeling of disappointment at OUR defensive tactics if anything!

Well, that's a fair, intelligent point of view. My original point was aimed at the idiots moaning at Bristol Rovers because they didn't let Bristol City win.

Anyone with half a brain can see that City will finish in the top 2, did a damn good job by taking Boro to a replay and then penalties, comfortably beating a Championship side away from home and that a 0-0 at home to Bristol Rovers in a 2 legged match is nothing more than a mild inconvenience.

City have to go to The Mem and get a result. I suggest as fans you do all you can to help that happen, rather than sitting back and waiting for it and then slagging off the manager, his son and his mates from Yeovil when it doesn't.

[Guest Shadow]

It's up to US in the form of Gary Johnson getting the team and tactics right and the players putting in a performance like Oldham or Coventry away to force the issue in the return leg. It will be a hostile atmosphere against a team who, realistically even though their fans refuse to admit it, only have this match and a potential Final to play for this season. They will be well up for it and, with potentially huge matches ahead for us, I see this as the first real test this season of the manager and team's ability UNDER PRESSURE.

And we'll have to slug it out on a pitch resembling something from the Somme.