cummins17 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 City was easily on top of norwich throughout the first half expect a cuple of norwich counter attacks and this wasthanks to lee johnson doing his usual second ball winning in my opinion he is such a vital part of this team ans i would even call him the backbone to the side as everytime he isnt on the field our midfield seems to fall apart does anyone else aree with he has to be one of our key men ? and as for cole skuse today very well played mate you filled marvins boots brilliantly and some of those tackles skuse made reminded me of marvin earlier in the season keep it up skusey and you will be keeping king marv out the side ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 City was easily on top of norwich throughout the first half expect a cuple of norwich counter attacks and this wasthanks to lee johnson doing his usual second ball winning in my opinion he is such a vital part of this team ans i would even call him the backbone to the side as everytime he isnt on the field our midfield seems to fall apart does anyone else aree with he has to be one of our key men ? and as for cole skuse today very well played mate you filled marvins boots brilliantly and some of those tackles skuse made reminded me of marvin earlier in the season keep it up skusey and you will be keeping king marv out the side ! I don't think we were easily on top but we certainly matched Norwich first half when LJ was on the pitch so you could say he makes a difference. Since Xmas I think LJ has performed a lot better and is an important part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 City was easily on top of norwich throughout the first half expect a cuple of norwich counter attacks and this wasthanks to lee johnson doing his usual second ball winning in my opinion he is such a vital part of this team ans i would even call him the backbone to the side as everytime he isnt on the field our midfield seems to fall apart does anyone else aree with he has to be one of our key men ? and as for cole skuse today very well played mate you filled marvins boots brilliantly and some of those tackles skuse made reminded me of marvin earlier in the season keep it up skusey and you will be keeping king marv out the side ! Yep, good post. Lee Johnson has always been one of our better players, no doubt about it. We were in control first half, as soon as he went off and the headless chicken that is Nick Carle came on, it went to pot. We need the physio to work some magic on Johnson to get him ready for next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingsdownred Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 City was easily on top of norwich throughout the first half expect a cuple of norwich counter attacks and this wasthanks to lee johnson doing his usual second ball winning in my opinion he is such a vital part of this team ans i would even call him the backbone to the side as everytime he isnt on the field our midfield seems to fall apart does anyone else aree with he has to be one of our key men ? and as for cole skuse today very well played mate you filled marvins boots brilliantly and some of those tackles skuse made reminded me of marvin earlier in the season keep it up skusey and you will be keeping king marv out the side ! Top post mate i was about to write the same thing. the results speak for themselves when he (Johnson) isn't in the team. thought his passing and tracking back today were a key part of our performance in the first half and have been all season. So all in all i think everyone who has doughted his place in the team i think he has put you all in your place with his performances on the field. Well done lads and lets finish this job off with a bang. YOU REDDDSSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_man_terry Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Skuse deserved mom today, as ever proved VERY efficent player and quietly went about his business, box to box and tackling anyone that moved. Elliott has been awesome this season, especially upto xmas, but he may have to be patient for his place, as Skuse has taken his chance and deserves to keep his place for the next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chaplain Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Yep, good post. Lee Johnson has always been one of our better players, no doubt about it. We were in control first half, as soon as he went off and the headless chicken that is Nick Carle came on, it went to pot. We need the physio to work some magic on Johnson to get him ready for next week Agreed, I think his fitness could be crucial ... together with Elliott's though by all accounts Skuse did ok today... with Brooker firing though midfield looks to be the key area now ... if it wasn't before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markman Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Not the biggest LJ doubter - but I cannot see that he made that much difference. He made some nice passes but he was yard off the pace and the aftermath of his injury left him reluctant to put his foot in. Lately when we go in front (rare) we sit back - at least Carle had energy. That said - I don't think any of us think we played well - for me McIndoe worked hard, Brooker did well and I thought the 2 Mac's were solid - I would not said anyone else came out with great credit (Skuse did well) We still need a performance to lift the whole team and carry us through to the end - let's hope it is next Saturday - can't wait :goingup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Not the biggest LJ doubter - but I cannot see that he made that much difference. He made some nice passes but he was yard off the pace and the aftermath of his injury left him reluctant to put his foot in. Lately when we go in front (rare) we sit back - at least Carle had energy. That said - I don't think any of us think we played well - for me McIndoe worked hard, Brooker did well and I thought the 2 Mac's were solid - I would not said anyone else came out with great credit (Skuse did well) We still need a performance to lift the whole team and carry us through to the end - let's hope it is next Saturday - can't wait :goingup: GOD you are going to get some stick on here for saying that. Prepare yourself for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markman Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 GOD you are going to get some stick on here for saying that. Prepare yourself for it. Just an honest opinion - we are ok with that I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezgimed Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 With the game split in 2 halves like that, yes we definately missed him. I really cant pinpoint what it is he does but we fell apart without him in the 2nd. Skuse played very well, intelligently passed the ball. Orr and McAllister good games also although Orr got caught out for their goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Not the biggest LJ doubter - but I cannot see that he made that much difference. He made some nice passes but he was yard off the pace and the aftermath of his injury left him reluctant to put his foot in. :goingup: To be fair, the proof was there for all to see. We were in control first half, went to pot 2nd half Nick Carle, great talent, but is like a headless chicken most of the time. All over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collier Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 With the game split in 2 halves like that, yes we definately missed him. I really cant pinpoint what it is he does but we fell apart without him in the 2nd. Skuse played very well, intelligently passed the ball. Orr and McAllister good games also although Orr got caught out for their goal. cant say that we fell apart without him really. We played a different game in the first 20 mins of the second half as we were defending a lead. Thought he looked injured still right from the kick off. He never went towards the ball if it was more that a foot away from him and you could plainly see that he didnt want anything to do with a tackle ( no pun intended). Liken his efforts to Elliott who has supposedly been playing through injury for some time now. He still challenges for every ball and isnt afraid to put his foot in where it hurts. Not knocking LJ in any way mind as I think he does a job for us when fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collier Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 To be fair, the proof was there for all to see. We were in control first half, went to pot 2nd half Nick Carle, great talent, but is like a headless chicken most of the time. All over the place. Do you not see that tactics and the mindset of the opposing team differers depending on the score and how long of a game is left?? Norwich were happy to let us have the ball first half as we were 0-0 most of the first half. When we scored they came at us and we defended more, thats why it looked like we were in control first half. Did you expect the second half to be the same?? you think norwich were happy to let us have the ball and try and break them down when they were losing 1-0?? Do you understand how to play football?? How can you say Carle is a headless chicken. He has a great touch, plays a good pass and covers a lot of ground trying to win tackles and setting up forward movement. Think you will find the reason he hasnt laid on any chances is there arnt many players in and arond the box when we play 1 up front. There was many a time in the game today when adebola was dragged out wide to win the ball and then mcindoe crosses and low and behold there is nobody in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Do you not see that tactics and the mindset of the opposing team differers depending on the score and how long of a game is left?? Norwich were happy to let us have the ball first half as we were 0-0 most of the first half. When we scored they came at us and we defended more, thats why it looked like we were in control first half. Did you expect the second half to be the same?? you think norwich were happy to let us have the ball and try and break them down when they were losing 1-0?? Do you understand how to play football?? How can you say Carle is a headless chicken. He has a great touch, plays a good pass and covers a lot of ground trying to win tackles and setting up forward movement. Think you will find the reason he hasnt laid on any chances is there arnt many players in and arond the box when we play 1 up front. There was many a time in the game today when adebola was dragged out wide to win the ball and then mcindoe crosses and low and behold there is nobody in the box. Yes I do understand how to play football thanks very much. I'm not doubting Nick Carle is a talent, and yes you are right, he does cover a lot of ground. He has a fantastic touch and is strong on the ball, BUT, today, the "he covers to much ground" was exactly what he did....he tried to cover the whole ground! On a number of occasions, he was out on the right, or out on the left, leaving Skuse on his own in the middle to deal with two, somtimes three Norwich players. They cut through our midfield far, far to easily. The midfield battle is key, win the midfield battle, you win games. First half, we controlled the midfield a hell of a lot more then we did 2nd half. As for Carle, don't get me wrong, i think he is a great player, I'm glad he is here, but if I had to choose between a fit Johnson and Carle....Johnno all day for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardy Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think you're all missing the point here. The main reason we were a different team in the second half was that damn wind and the fact that Basso could hardly kick it out of his 18 yard box. In my opinion Johnson would have may very little difference as we all know he is better with the ball than without. That said I would still pick him in my first 11 eleven everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunley Legend Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 With the game split in 2 halves like that, yes we definately missed him. I really cant pinpoint what it is he does but we fell apart without him in the 2nd. Skuse played very well, intelligently passed the ball. Orr and McAllister good games also although Orr got caught out for their goal. Orr was a strange case today. Good solid first half including the cross for McIndoe's header that was parried to Adegoala. But after the break he had a 25 minute spell culminating in the Norwich goal when he couldn't do a single thing right. Every pass was wrong, every throw was lobbed to them, every tackle was missed. He had a total mare in that period but managed to pull himself together nearer the end. I thought Basso, McAllister, McCombe and Skuse came out with the most credit overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 I have always been a masive LJ fan. Today he showed that we realay miss him when he is not there. He knits all of the midfield/ strikers together with simple football. His vision is second to none. He does bottle tackles but that is not what his game is about, Same as Paul Scholes, great footballer but cant tackle. We desperatly need him to start against Soton next Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Lee Johnson didn't have enough impact on the game today to do well or badly really IMO. The two main things he brings to the side are his set pieces and that he takes the ball off the full backs before they have a chance to hit it long. Both facets of his play were nice to have but far from a telling contribution IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whale Eye Beef Hooked Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Lee Johnson didn't have enough impact on the game today to do well or badly really IMO. The two main things he brings to the side are his set pieces and that he takes the ball off the full backs before they have a chance to hit it long. Both facets of his play were nice to have but far from a telling contribution IMO. Fair enough, but i think that Johnson brings a bit of stabiity to the side, He doesnt just take the ball off of the full backs he binds the midfield together with quick passing. Carle has not got any confidence gojng forward. Noble is a very good footballer but hasnt got the finish for a player playing in the hole and skuse had a very good game today, tackled well and worked hard but for me we play better with Johnson in the side IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 we play better with Johnson in the side IMO Agree with that and I think the results in the last 5 games show it clearly. I just didn't think he stood out one way or the other today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Orr was a strange case today. Good solid first half including the cross for McIndoe's header that was parried to Adegoala. But after the break he had a 25 minute spell culminating in the Norwich goal when he couldn't do a single thing right. Every pass was wrong, every throw was lobbed to them, every tackle was missed. He had a total mare in that period but managed to pull himself together nearer the end. I thought Basso, McAllister, McCombe and Skuse came out with the most credit overall. Not just me then. I counted four occasions when Brad seemed to freeze in and around our penalty area and surrendered possession, including for their goal. Looked nervous to me. As to LJ we just seem to lack composure and find it harder to retain the ball when he is not there. Nick Carle is a completely different kind of player and suited to playing further forward than Lee. As a side issue I can't help wondering how much stick Lee would be getting if he gave the ball away as much as David Noble did yesterday. Talented player David but sometimes its best to play the easy pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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