Stoke To Appeal And Try To Claim 3 Points Against Owls

[Guest out of harms way]

Seems like Sheffield Wednesday had 6 loanees in the squad for the game against Stoke therefore breaking the rules. Stoke look likely to appeal and to try and claim 3 points.

Galling if the unlikely happens and they get awarded the three points. :noexpression:

Will, however, make it all the sweeter when we beat them at their place and make it irrelevant!

Full article below:

"Sheffield Wednesday will today admit to breaking Football League rules in Saturday's home game with Stoke City by including six loan players in their squad, one more than the permitted quota. However the Championship strugglers will plead to keep the point they gained against the second-placed club.

Stoke are expected to lodge a complaint after the 1-1 draw which cost them top spot. Wednesday, whose equaliser was scored by Portsmouth's Franck Songo'o, one of their loanees, will own up to breaching the rules in talks with the league today.

However they will also enter a strong plea of mitigation if Stoke seek to be awarded the three points. Wednesday can expect a fine at least, which was the punishment accepted by Leeds when they were charged with a similar offence last season and incurred a £1,000 penalty with a further £1,000 suspended.

But Leeds' offence was arguably more serious in that they broke a secondary rule that allows only four loan players to be on the field. The Elland Road club had five on the pitch whereas Wednesday used only four. They will therefore argue that the result was not affected and that they are merely guilty of a technicality."

[tompo]

Most likely outcome is that Wednesday will get hit with a hefty fine and possible points deduction. Can't see them giving points to Stoke.

[andy g]

Oh please don't let this turn into another Shef Utd vs West Ham situation !

[Guest Eamer]

This was noted in a thread on Saturday. I can't see Stoke getting the points. Wednesday used four of the six players and there were only ever three of them on the pitch at any one time. Two were unused subs. If Stoke were given the points it'd be partly down to bloody Showunmi who is one of their loanee's involved.

[downendcity]

This coming from a club who paid a tranfer fee of £575000 to take Ameobi on loan for the rest of the season! When is a transfer fee not a transfer fee then?

Re Saturday's game. There are 2 rules about loanees; one says that you cannot have more than 6 loanees in your match day squad, the second says that no more than 4 loanees can actually take part in the game itself.

Wednesday admit they breached the first one. If they had breached the second then the cat would be among the pigeons, because breaking the rules in this way would have materially affected the outcome of the game and Stoke might have had some sort of case, but heaven knows how the league could deal with it.

As it is, I am pretty certain they will regard the offence as an administrative mistake and fine Wednesday. The complication is that this result affected both top and bottom of the league and I am sure all the teams affected will be looking to see how they might benefit. Mind you if Tony P can blame Blackpool's late arrival for his players having cramp, then I am sure he will look for anyway to try and benefit from this situation.

P.S. If Enoch was on the pitch, it is still not certain that he would materially affect a game anyway!

[CiderEagle]

If Stoke are really trying this on then that shows they're bleedin' desperate ... as the man said, the only possibilities are

- a fine for Wednesday

- points deducted from Wednesday

- a slap on the wrists.

Stoke are an embarrassment. I really hope we go up with anybody but them.

[bartolona]

Wednesday will only get a fine, Leeds were only fined and what they did was far worse.

[Guest Eamer]

Stoke are an embarrassment. I really hope we go up with anybody but them.

Us and Hull automatically would be pretty good.

[Guest walshy-shuffle-carl-shutt]

This coming from a club who paid a tranfer fee of £575000 to take Ameobi on loan for the rest of the season! When is a transfer fee not a transfer fee then?

Re Saturday's game. There are 2 rules about loanees; one says that you cannot have more than 6 loanees in your match day squad, the second says that no more than 4 loanees can actually take part in the game itself.

Wednesday admit they breached the first one. If they had breached the second then the cat would be among the pigeons, because breaking the rules in this way would have materially affected the outcome of the game and Stoke might have had some sort of case, but heaven knows how the league could deal with it.

As it is, I am pretty certain they will regard the offence as an administrative mistake and fine Wednesday. The complication is that this result affected both top and bottom of the league and I am sure all the teams affected will be looking to see how they might benefit. Mind you if Tony P can blame Blackpool's late arrival for his players having cramp, then I am sure he will look for anyway to try and benefit from this situation.

P.S. If Enoch was on the pitch, it is still not certain that he would materially affect a game anyway!

This is great news for us because it may distract stoke(or Stroke as GJ accidently said in a recent interview or at least i think it was accidental.) from the job in hand and we all know that if anyone can create a pile of steaming dung from gold then it has to be pulis. RE ameobi typical of the man how far will he go to play the long ball game bet he was thinking if i get him we hoof all the way down field over the top for him to run on too.

I was in Birmingham on sat nite after the game andwas chatting to a West Brom fan he said that he thinks are chances have improved but he wasnt to confident about theirs the defence is going to be their undoing. Everyone says there style of play is suited the Prem and i agree going forward their formidable but defence wise if Colchester scored 3 against them in there own backyard what do you think the likes of Man U will do scarey thought. Baggies beware.

City for the Title West brom runners up BELIEVE

[slartibartfast]

NO CHANCE of "walk over" How would it be fair to the other clubs at the top when it wasn't their fault?

Prob a fine or deduction of 1 point to them.

Still ,if Joke want to go up like that.....

[jism123]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...wed/7322755.stm

[Guest Top Cat]

Stoke contacted the FL on Saturday night..which TBH I'd expect any professional club to do ,if only to establish how the land lies and to clarify things for future seasons.To think otherwise isn't living in the real world ,and isn't doing football in general any favours either.

Since when they've been advised the FL will study the team sheets,contracts etc ( was suppose to be today ) and report back.

Stoke's only other comment is that they'll await the leagues response before considering if any further action is appropriate.And from the head coach giving an interview saying that the penalties for breaching league regs should be known in advance.

As funder members of the league Stoke tend to play things straight down the line, even if it ultimately costs us , though they're not a charity case either..though would hope and expect Stoke to do the decent thing here and take the result on the chin even given what's at stake and press for the penalties for future occurrences to be released before the start of next season.

On a personal level I expect Wednesday to receive a points deduction , but nothing for Stoke..

football's played on grass not in the courts ...Win it there stoke or let it lie.

[bh_red]

sheffield wed, will get a fine, same as what happened to Leeds last season.

points deductions for anyone....plain stupid and not going to happen.

[Guest crewepotter]

If Sheff Wed are to get only a fine surely this opens the door for Stoke to include all their loan players from now till the end of the season.

You are right i don't expect Stoke to get anything from it but Sheff wed definately gained by having the extra player on the bench. It quite plainly gave them an advantage in that they had more options to choose from.

I am pretty certain that they even excluded a sub Goalkeeper as well

If Stoke played Bristol City and included 6 loan players and beat you, what would your reaction be

[Guest NORTHAVON_RED]

the league can't play around with points over 2 loanees on the bench,just a technical error and should be a fine and a slap on the wrist

[Guest crewepotter]

Sorry it cant just be a technical error. As i said a slap on the wrists means Stoke can include Paul Gallagher this week as a sub and further strengthen the team, and fans all over would be saying you cant do that

[94th Minute]

Sorry it cant just be a technical error. As i said a slap on the wrists means Stoke can include Paul Gallagher this week as a sub and further strengthen the team, and fans all over would be saying you cant do that

Your right, chuck them out of the league then? No respect for the rules!!

It still can be a technical error, even if its advantagous; the rule breach didn't effect the game, if it happened against us, I'd expect city to appeal, but I wouldn't be expecting an overruling of the result. In my opinion breaking this rule, is no worse than stoke abusing the emergancy loan rule to buy a player in...both ultimately gives the team involved more options

[RedM]

About 7.30 tonight I caught a bit of radio 5Live, they were talking to Clueless about this. He said something along the lines of he and his chairman were NOT going to pursue this. It sounded like he was getting a big 'well done'.

He also said it was any 2 clubs from a handful for promotion, and said Bristol City are 'up there at the moment', but didn't give me the impression that we would be for long/should be there!

He said he was on a golf course and his mobile sounded terrible, like a Dalek I thought and seconds later the interviewer said the same! Exterminate, Exterminate!!!!

[Geoff65]

If they start looking in to the loans and deducting points then they need to revisit the whole emergency loan situation and how it is one club can loan one of their strikers out to be replaced by a Premier League striker - what exactly was the emergency?

Deduct points from Shef Weds which will hinder their relegation battle and all hell is going to break loose.

[bh_red]

If they start looking in to the loans and deducting points then they need to revisit the whole emergency loan situation and how it is one club can loan one of their strikers out to be replaced by a Premier League striker - what exactly was the emergency?

Deduct points from Shef Weds which will hinder their relegation battle and all hell is going to break loose.

that's the big misconception though, that it's an "emergency loan" it isn't they are just standad loans that club can make at anytime during the window, now that window has closed, emergency loans can be made, but that is only for keepers.

[Chessels Chick]

that's the big misconception though, that it's an "emergency loan" it isn't they are just standad loans that club can make at anytime during the window, now that window has closed, emergency loans can be made, but that is only for keepers.

In general it tends to be keepers as they are classed as an emergency if for instance all of your signed keepers are injured.

Not sure if counts as an emergency if both of your new loan signings get injured within minutes of them making their debut and are out for the rest of season like what has happened to the Sags ... all together now aahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha

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