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Possibly the worst police force I have ever come across at a football match. Totally heavyhanded and they must of arrested atleast 15 City for no reason at all. Before the game, we got escorted from The Howards pub to the ground (took about 40 mins when should had taken 10 mins) Sheff Utd fans were giving City abuse throughout the escort and when one City said something back, he was quickly thrown to the floor and so was a younger lad (possibly his son?) for no reason at all. They proceded to smack his face onto the concreate before lifting him up and taking him away.

Inside the ground, mulitple City fans were ejected because they jumped on the tarmac when we had scored.

Pathetic and way over-handed, and people say we have the best police force in the world?!

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The guy who got ejected after the offside goal did seem to be dealt with extremely harshly. That said the guy in the home stand to our right got chucked out for little other than flicking the bird back at us all!

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Possibly the worst police force I have ever come across at a football match. Totally heavyhanded and they must of arrested atleast 15 City for no reason at all. Before the game, we got escorted from The Howards pub to the ground (took about 40 mins when should had taken 10 mins) Sheff Utd fans were giving City abuse throughout the escort and when one City said something back, he was quickly thrown to the floor and so was a younger lad (possibly his son?) for no reason at all. They proceded to smack his face onto the concreate before lifting him up and taking him away.

Inside the ground, mulitple City fans were ejected because they jumped on the tarmac when we had scored.

Pathetic and way over-handed, and people say we have the best police force in the world?!

and to make matters worse it took over 20 mins for us all to get in the ground

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Possibly the worst police force I have ever come across at a football match. Totally heavyhanded and they must of arrested atleast 15 City for no reason at all. Before the game, we got escorted from The Howards pub to the ground (took about 40 mins when should had taken 10 mins) Sheff Utd fans were giving City abuse throughout the escort and when one City said something back, he was quickly thrown to the floor and so was a younger lad (possibly his son?) for no reason at all. They proceded to smack his face onto the concreate before lifting him up and taking him away.

Inside the ground, mulitple City fans were ejected because they jumped on the tarmac when we had scored.

Pathetic and way over-handed, and people say we have the best police force in the world?!

Well while waiting for EDR to come out of the petrol station after the game, i was threatened with arrest and smacked in the face by Officer 1148 for doing nothing more than chatting to a friend.

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Well while waiting for EDR to come out of the petrol station after the game, i was threatened with arrest and smacked in the face by Officer 1148 for doing nothing more than chatting to a friend.

if you were smacked by him you need to complain or they will keep getting away with it

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if you were smacked by him you need to complain or they will keep getting away with it

I was going too but i just cant be arsed with it all now.

I know its wrong but thats the way i feel now.

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I was going too but i just cant be arsed with it all now.

I know its wrong but thats the way i feel now.

i understand your point but i urge you to complain or they will get away with it time and time again. eventually someone will get seriuosly hurt by these thugs. :disapointed2se:

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i understand your point but i urge you to complain or they will get away with it time and time again. eventually someone will get seriuosly hurt by these thugs. :disapointed2se:

The young chap as I already mentioned got whacked around the head and thrown to the floor!

If anyone else saw, i'm talking about the chap in the white jumper, just before the game.

Others tried to step in, but we're told to step back or they face arrest.

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if you were smacked by him you need to complain or they will keep getting away with it

I was with BS3 and i cant get it out of my mind ?

would like to know how to take matters further, not the 1st time we have been treated like hooligans at away matches !!! yes there is some d### heads within our supporters but why should we all be painted with the same brush ? some 1 on here must know the right procedure's to take it further ? I'm sick of little boys in uniforms and bloody big dog's on their arms who think they can push supporters around when they have done no wrong, sheff fans were very nice guys and we were made welcome in the local boozers , so why cant the police up north be like that !!!!!!!!!!!!

well done city boys today like alot of you said felt like a win to us and we deserved more from the game !!

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I was with BS3 and i cant get it out of my mind ?

would like to know how to take matters further, not the 1st time we have been treated like hooligans at away matches !!! yes there is some d### heads within our supporters but why should we all be painted with the same brush ? some 1 on here must know the right procedure's to take it further ? I'm sick of little boys in uniforms and bloody big dog's on their arms who think they can push supporters around when they have done no wrong, sheff fans were very nice guys and we were made welcome in the local boozers , so why cant the police up north be like that !!!!!!!!!!!!

well done city boys today like alot of you said felt like a win to us and we deserved more from the game !!

if you email this lady she will be able to tell you how to take action. just tell her what happened and she will help you with your complaint.

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which lady ??????????????? :innocent06:

she is called amanda :innocent06: just been reading standupsitdown and she is the person who has dealt with helping people complain against the police. hope this helps

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A friend of mine saw a young lad being harshly treated by a policeman. I know they have a hard job but some of them go way too far with the way they speak to people sometimes.

Was he the one in the white jumper before kick off?

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Was he the one in the white jumper before kick off?

No this was at half time or just before. Not sure what the lad looked like just heard from my mate he was being harshly treated. Ive seen it before with the Met police being heavy handed.

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I can't say I heard anything about this on Radio Bristol by the reporters at the ground, our fans do seem to have been targeted by police allegedly on a number of occasions this season. :disapointed2se:

not just this season i got jumped on by sum over zealous pc against derby just for giving a two finger salute while we were being bombarded with all sorts of missiles when they were at baseball ground ended up gettin band 4 6months while there thugs were allowed to carry on regardless summit has got 2 be done about these coppers as there just hooligans in a uniform :ph34r:

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she is called amanda :innocent06: just been reading standupsitdown and she is the person who has dealt with helping people complain against the police. hope this helps

sorry mate it is late but who is amanda can you give me contact number or full member name :fingerscrossed:

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sorry mate it is late but who is amanda can you give me contact number or full member name :fingerscrossed:

http://z12.invisionfree.com/StandUpSitDown...?showtopic=3112

if you scroll down abit there's a post from amanda with her email address. i don't post on the forum or know her but read the forum and she is pritty clued in to what to do. i think some members from this forum post there like chalky so he'd probably be somone better to get information from.

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What a joke! Firstly we were only let in the horward or globe not allowed to go anywhere else, then they kick us all out at 2 for a 10 minute walk to the ground!! But yet we still nearly missed KO :disapointed2se:

Just be grateful you got to see the whole game! at QPR we missed nearly 25 minutes of the game because of a stupid police escort, which also took too long to get to the ground

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the police can legally force you to join a police escort, although they usually give the impression that they can.

I think there is a law that says they can, if they believe that you are liable to cause a public order offence, and that is obviously at their discretion. Yesterday, anybody who dared to step even close to the edge of the cordon was shoved back in or thrown to the ground and manhandled away. Finally, another point is that we were being filmed on camcorder the whole way to the ground, yet the police tried to stop us filming them on our phones. Wonder what the law states about that?

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I know i'm going to be in a minority but I thought it was all handled in a sensible manner up at Sheffield.

I have it on good authority that there has been a lot of trouble up there before recent games and to have an area segregated for our sole use makes good sense. You only need to see the way some of our 'followers' were behaving in the escort to understand why they do it....it was as usual particularly unpleaseant especially for those with children. Why people have the inability to listen with good grace to sensible orders & directions from someone who is there for your safety beggars belief.

We were having friendly banter with the Police right along the route if you choose to try and escape the cordon to get 'involved' with the oppos fans you get what you deserve.

By the way NickJ i saw you escaping the cordon with the old fella!

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I know i'm going to be in a minority but I thought it was all handled in a sensible manner up at Sheffield.

I have it on good authority that there has been a lot of trouble up there before recent games and to have an area segregated for our sole use makes good sense. You only need to see the way some of our 'followers' were behaving in the escort to understand why they do it....it was as usual particularly unpleaseant especially for those with children. Why people have the inability to listen with good grace to sensible orders & directions from someone who is there for your safety beggars belief.

We were having friendly banter with the Police right along the route if you choose to try and escape the cordon to get 'involved' with the oppos fans you get what you deserve.

By the way NickJ i saw you escaping the cordon with the old fella!

Yeah my dad! We walked on ahead and by the time the escort arrived we had queued for and eaten a very unhealthy but delicious triple decker burger.

You are not necessarily in a minority Dave, I happen to agree that the policing overall was quite good.

My point is whether the police can legally oblige you to leave the pub in a police escort. Surely there is something ironic about the police acting illegally, even if they consider it to be in the overall public interest?

We were drinking in the Globe without a hint of trouble when the police demanded that everyone marched down to the Howard to join the escort. They were even guarding the back doors to ensure no-one could escape.

I have mixed feelings on the issue, but my views are influenced by several instances this season of City fans being unfairly bossed around by the police. If I want to go somewhere, and I have done nothing wrong, it should be my choice, but on several ocassions this season I have found myself being coerced against my will into police escorts, whether on a coach or by foot. If the police consider you being escorted to the ground is for your own safety, they should make that clear.

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I know i'm going to be in a minority but I thought it was all handled in a sensible manner up at Sheffield.

I have it on good authority that there has been a lot of trouble up there before recent games and to have an area segregated for our sole use makes good sense. You only need to see the way some of our 'followers' were behaving in the escort to understand why they do it....it was as usual particularly unpleaseant especially for those with children. Why people have the inability to listen with good grace to sensible orders & directions from someone who is there for your safety beggars belief.

We were having friendly banter with the Police right along the route if you choose to try and escape the cordon to

Thats all well and good, but is it fair that i missed 25 minutes of the QPR game for doing nothing wrong?? This escort yesterday got people to the ground for kick off, which is a compromise i'd accept. But making me miss a game that i travelled 2-3 hours to watch, just isn't fair??

what excuse can you give to the police for that?

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I again recieved a positve impression of Sheff police. Myself and a mate arrived at train station was offered the pub over the road as a sanctury but decided that if the police were sending people in there that it would be busy and asked if we could just go to the ground, he said yes and pointed us in the direction of the ground. We ended up in a pub the Royal Standard nearer the ground full of City fans mixing freely with Sheff Utd fans with a good and friendly atmosphere free of police.

On the way out I was expecting a Southampton forced escort but nothing materialised however there was a escort for those who wanted it.

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the police can legally force you to join a police escort, although they usually give the impression that they can.

When in the pub i did say that to one off them, he said "you are welcome to leave, but if you do i will nick you" Grrrr

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When in the pub i did say that to one off them, he said "you are welcome to leave, but if you do i will nick you" Grrrr

Did you ask the officer in question as to what he would be arresting you with? I'm starting to get bored of being bullied as football fans by Police.

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Did you ask the officer in question as to what he would be arresting you with? I'm starting to get bored of being bullied as football fans by Police.

Police don't need a reason..... if you havent done nothing wrong, they will make something up. I just try and keep my distance from coppers as much as possible

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Here's something I don't understand about football and the polcie etc and our emdia.

When English fans get bothered abroard by police ie Moscow (England fans), Roma (Man Utd fans), Sevilla (Tottenham fans), the media are full of it, and the Government make inquiries.

But when it happens in this country ie yesterday and I'm sure many grounds across the country every Saturday, our media, quiet as a churchmouse. :disapointed2se:

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Inside the ground, mulitple City fans were ejected because they jumped on the tarmac when we had scored.

Pathetic and way over-handed, and people say we have the best police force in the world?!

There was a massive yellow sign that said they would be removed from the Stadium if they went on this tarmac! It is there own fault! Some people do not bloody listen or read, so I'm glad they got chucked out! (Idiots).

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Don't get in their way and they won't get in yours! Simple!

How can it be simple if the police are waiting for you at the train station, direct you to a pub, then escort you from the pub to the ground?

It is OTT policing, for the simple reason, this is the easiest way for them to deal with it, and sod all the fans and their enjoyment. :disapointed2se:

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I think there is a law that says they can, if they believe that you are liable to cause a public order offence, and that is obviously at their discretion. Yesterday, anybody who dared to step even close to the edge of the cordon was shoved back in or thrown to the ground and manhandled away. Finally, another point is that we were being filmed on camcorder the whole way to the ground, yet the police tried to stop us filming them on our phones. Wonder what the law states about that?

Mark Thomas the comedian did a really funny sketch on the London underground about the filth filming people, look it up on Youtube it's funny as ****!

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Don't get in their way and they won't get in yours! Simple!

If your going to come out with a stupid statement like that then make sure its correct.

WE were the ones who were having to tell the police to calm down yesterday.Some of them were spoiling for it, and that seems to be a regular occurrence.

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I know i'm going to be in a minority but I thought it was all handled in a sensible manner up at Sheffield.

Agree with you mate!

Had friendly banter with the police on way to the ground.

We have a lot of idiotic drunks that can't help 'acting up' after a few pints.

If you do nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear - simple!

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If your going to come out with a stupid statement like that then make sure its correct.

WE were the ones who were having to tell the police to calm down yesterday.Some of them were spoiling for it, and that seems to be a regular occurrence.

It is not stupid! It's true! - If you read it a bit harder, you will know what it means!

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If only. What if the police suddenly surround a pub your in and don't let you go anywhere??

Then you are in their way! - What is wrong with finding somewhere quiet to drink before the game. Just because you are in the majority, doesn't make you right! - I had no problems at all yesterday! A gang of City Fans, or ANY fans for that matter, is going to result in a Police presence! - Go somewhere quieter, and save any pent up agression for the game!

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The police are making a very dodgy situation for themselves in my opinion , twice this season i have got caught up in this so called bully boy escourt tactics and it has really pissed me off , so now what i do is sneak away from the police ,( u can do it if you try )i don't go anywhere near the police offered or the so called away pubs as this is how u come mobbed up by the police , yesterday i ended up in a club full of utd fans ( and there was some big lads in there i can tell you ) as soon as said ( excuse me me old babber n e chance of giving i a nice pint of cider ) the rest of the club looked at us , GULP , i thought time to die , but no need to worry they were good as gold and made us really welcome , but what I'm trying to say is that it could have turned nasty ,this is what could end up happening with fans avoiding the so called away pubs and mingling in other pubs mixing with the locals and they might not always be as accomadating as the sheffield lads we met saturday and things could be kicking off everywhere, oh and by the way only £1.60 a pint ,

we may have lost but great day, great performance , and great support , well done allround

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Then you are in their way! - What is wrong with finding somewhere quiet to drink before the game. Just because you are in the majority, doesn't make you right! - I had no problems at all yesterday! A gang of City Fans, or ANY fans for that matter, is going to result in a Police presence! - Go somewhere quieter, and save any pent up agression for the game!

I was fine yesterday, but i was lucky i never picked the 'wrong' pub. How do you stay out their way, when you don't know there coming??? I would like to know

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It is not stupid! It's true! - If you read it a bit harder, you will know what it means!

How hard would you like me to read it?. Complete and utter rubbish.

They like to make a point at football matches of actually "getting in the way" just to try and antagonise people.

If you havent seen that then you walk round with your eyes shut.

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Then you are in their way! - What is wrong with finding somewhere quiet to drink before the game. Just because you are in the majority, doesn't make you right! - I had no problems at all yesterday! A gang of City Fans, or ANY fans for that matter, is going to result in a Police presence! - Go somewhere quieter, and save any pent up agression for the game!

Err excuse me officer, who FORCED everyone into the same pub at 11.OO after arriving at Sheffield station???

Answer. THE POLICE. I HAD NO SAY IN WHERE I WANTED TO GO. Is that big enough for you to understand officer?

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Then you are in their way! - What is wrong with finding somewhere quiet to drink before the game. Just because you are in the majority, doesn't make you right! - I had no problems at all yesterday! A gang of City Fans, or ANY fans for that matter, is going to result in a Police presence! - Go somewhere quieter, and save any pent up agression for the game!

OB in disguise.

Plus, why do you use so many exclamation marks?

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Then you are in their way! - What is wrong with finding somewhere quiet to drink before the game. Just because you are in the majority, doesn't make you right! - I had no problems at all yesterday! A gang of City Fans, or ANY fans for that matter, is going to result in a Police presence! - Go somewhere quieter, and save any pent up agression for the game!

How can you do this when the police chase fans down the road to prevent them going anywhere quieter?

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There was a massive yellow sign that said they would be removed from the Stadium if they went on this tarmac! It is there own fault! Some people do not bloody listen or read, so I'm glad they got chucked out! (Idiots).

Half agree with what you are saying , but it was the manner in which they were being ejected , way over the top they couldnt wait to get there hands on any city fan and basically bully them out not eject them

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There was a massive yellow sign that said they would be removed from the Stadium if they went on this tarmac! It is there own fault! Some people do not bloody listen or read, so I'm glad they got chucked out! (Idiots).

No, apparently it's someone elses fault, the state, their mothers, they were smacked as children, they never got enough praise at school, anything but the people who did it. How can grown men be expected to read big warning signs?

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There was a massive yellow sign that said they would be removed from the Stadium if they went on this tarmac! It is there own fault! Some people do not bloody listen or read, so I'm glad they got chucked out! (Idiots).

I was sat right at the front and didn't see any signs about tarmac :dunno: seen one's about not going on the pitch though.

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I was sat right at the front and didn't see any signs about tarmac :dunno: seen one's about not going on the pitch though.

So did I - they should have had gates there not gaps !! :protest:

Thought the police & stewards were a bit heavy handed - did it really need 12 police officers in riot gear to remove one home fan!! :rolleyes:

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This is the same police force that were at Hillsborough on that dreadful day in 1989 (20 years ago next year)

you would think that they would have learnd lessons from that and know how to treat football fans as people and not animals,but obviously some things never change.

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Managed to get away from the Globe as some kids were winding up a guy we were with and I had my 15 year old nephew with me, so we didn't want any bother.

Had a word with a copper outside and told him the story who asked his Sargent if we can leave and when I repeated the story, he said we can leave but stay away from pubs as the Sheffield fans wanted blood....so to speak!

We walked around the corner and found a pub full off Sheffield Utd fans but families and older generation. It looked closed but when we got inside it was half empty and a great atmosphere. Had a nice time and was not bothered by anyone and likewise. Man, I'm getting old!

We even stood and watched the convoy of city fans walk close by, which yes, I disagree with.

I enjoyed the day and it was nice to see a great performance from the guys on the pitch, but have you seen so many ejected from the ground for little reason?!??!?!?!!??

MM

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The Police - especially the Yorkshire Police - have got an appalling reputation for corruption. Their actions - especially during 1984/85 - against Trades Unionists are infamous to this day......

In fairness, a lot of the Police who treated the miners like scum were bought in from other areas including The Met :ranting:

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I again recieved a positve impression of Sheff police. Myself and a mate arrived at train station was offered the pub over the road as a sanctury but decided that if the police were sending people in there that it would be busy and asked if we could just go to the ground, he said yes and pointed us in the direction of the ground. We ended up in a pub the Royal Standard nearer the ground full of City fans mixing freely with Sheff Utd fans with a good and friendly atmosphere free of police.

On the way out I was expecting a Southampton forced escort but nothing materialised however there was a escort for those who wanted it.

Yep, that's where we wound up as well.

Luckily, we went took a minibus up and didn't get herded around like you often do when you go on the train. No hint of trouble from fans or OB and everyone was enjoying a pint in the sunshine which is how it should be. The amount of times, particulary this season, that I've had an away day ruined by them is far too high. Made a pleasant change not to be involved with the shite the OB dish out for once.

The only encounter we had with them is when we Trundle was walking past the Police Escort after the game and we wanted to go out and congratulate him on his performance but a copper just told us to get back in.

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The Police breed their own problems. They want to provoke pissed up people and others into a reaction so they can nick them and fill their quotas. The real troublemakers attached to club's will do their business elsewhere, away from the eye of this lot, so to treat the rest of us like this at the majority of away games is going to cause a backlash one day. All it takes is one of them to go a tad too far and something will happen.

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Yep, did I read somewhere Wolves there were issues, or was it Crystal Palace?

Maybe it was neither though.

Wolves, Plymouth, Palace, QPR, Leicester, Cardiff and Sheff Utd (by the sounds of things) have all been marred by over zealous policing this season. That's far too many for my liking.

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Not ONE policeman was charged with any criminal offence during that Miners' Strike despite there being thousands of witnesses, photographs and film footage showing the police acting with reckless yet co-ordinated violence. Margaret Thatcher's description of miners and their Union as "The Enemy Within" was basically a green light for the police to become a political army which had the task of dealing with this working class 'Enemy'. The 'Enemy' were battered senseless and terrorised whilst the top ranks of the police congratulated the lower ranks on a job well done as the truncheons crashed down on the skulls of British Miners. Our police would do well to remember that those Striking Miners were our fellow countrymen not our 'Enemy'.

Most of the criminalty and brutality by the police against those Miners happened in Yorkshire. In a country with a fair Criminal Justice System it would probably be the leaders of the Yorkshire police from that time - now comfortable in retirement at taxpayers' (our) expense that would be prosecuted first.

Wapping Wharfe, another wako thon for the men in blue to practice, along with grosvenor square, and the poll tax demo

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Its not that the police can arrest for anything, anyone who has had the joy of reading a copy of Pace will know that an officer can arrest if he 'thinks' you may commit an offence. Basically he can say he believes that if you fail to join the escort into the ground you will go on to commit a public order offence.

Trust me no copper signs up for football duty on a Saturday afternoon, not defending some of the more cocky police out there but the Majority just want the game to go off without a hitch and not get spat at or abused! I can promise you that most of them would rather be watching the game!!

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Luckily, we went took a minibus up and didn't get herded around like you often do when you go on the train.

Our minibus was met by the police who then searched us all including women and kids looking for drugs and alcohol, they also had a look through our wallets and searched the bus. We've took a minibus to most match's this season, but with the over reaction of the police the last couple of weeks it doesn't seem worth the effort. Had a 14 mile escort into Stoke last week. :(

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How hard would you like me to read it?. Complete and utter rubbish.

They like to make a point at football matches of actually "getting in the way" just to try and antagonise people.

If you havent seen that then you walk round with your eyes shut.

The Police do NOT antagonise people! Its the FANS who do that to the Police! And, as you saying I walk around with my eyes shut, Crap! I am giving an opinion, you don't like it, don't read it!

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