New rules (Merged)

[BS3_RED]

I can remember a game last season when one of our players was arguing with the ref in front of b block Dolman and you could clearly see the ref saying they would kick it back. 

[cockneydave]

On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 13:10, Super said:

This would make football a complete joke.

But not if SKY say so!!!

[cityexile]

2 hours ago, BS3_RED said:

I can remember a game last season when one of our players was arguing with the ref in front of b block Dolman and you could clearly see the ref saying they would kick it back. 

I can remember last season where in the last minute away from home we were in possession in their half. The ref stopped play for treatment. They then kicked an uncontested drop ball back to us by blasting it down for our throw in right by our touch line. We ended up conceding possession from which they scored the winner.

If we had contested it, at least we would have started in their half!

 

[Lanterne Rouge]

21 hours ago, cityexile said:

I can remember last season where in the last minute away from home we were in possession in their half. The ref stopped play for treatment. They then kicked an uncontested drop ball back to us by blasting it down for our throw in right by our touch line. We ended up conceding possession from which they scored the winner.

If we had contested it, at least we would have started in their half!

 

Wolves away? Ended up with a free kick to them edge of the box that they scored?

[CotswoldRed]

On 23/05/2016 at 10:35, phantom said:

I see that there are new rules being brought into the game from June 1st, some interesting - some just plain obvious. . . . 

 

Law 1 - the field of play

Logos permitted on corner flags (previously banned).

Mix of artificial and natural surfaces allowed on field of play (previously banned).

Law 3 - the players

If a substitute, sent-off player or match official interferes with play, causing the game to be stopped, it will result in a direct free-kick or penalty (previously indirect free-kick or drop-ball).

If a substitute, team official or outside agent stops a ball going into the goal, the referee can apply the advantage rule and award a goal.

Law 4 - the players' equipment

Players wearing undershorts or tights have to make sure they are the same colour as those worn by any team-mates - and they must also match their shorts.

A player leaving the field of play to change their boots can only be allowed back on by the referee.

Law 5 - the referee

Referees have the authority to take action from when they enter the field of play for the pre-match inspection, not from the start of the game - which means players could be sent off for an offence committed while warming up. But yellow cards can only be issued from the start of the match.

Players injured by opponents who are then sent off do not need to leave the pitch for treatment.

Law 7 - duration of the match

Time taken for drinks breaks can now officially be added on at the end of a game.

Law 8 - the start and restart of play

The ball no longer has to move forward at a kick-off - it just has to move for the game to start.

Referees should not 'manufacture' dropped ball situations, in terms of who takes them, or the outcome.

Law 10 - Determining the outcome of a match

Deciding which end a penalty shootout should take place is to be done by a coin-toss, subject to condition of the pitch, or safety concerns. It is no longer the referee's choice.

A team with more players than the other when the shootout starts must reduce the number of takers so they have the same number of eligible players - this will stop teams who have had a player sent off having their better penalty takers available sooner.

Law 11 - offside

Hands and arms are not included when judging offside.

Free-kicks for offside can be taken from where the offside player received the ball.

Law 12 - fouls and misconduct

A free-kick or penalty can only be awarded while the ball is in play.

Denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity in the penalty area is no longer a straight red card - unless the offence is holding, pulling or pushing; there's no attempt to play or no possibility of making a challenge; or it's an offence which is punishable by a red card, no matter where on the pitch it happens - violent conduct, for example.

Violent conduct is punishable by a red card even if no contact is made.

An offence against a match official will result in a direct free-kick or penalty.

Law 13 - free-kicks

When fouls are committed off the pitch when the ball is in play, the match is restarted with a free-kick on the touchline nearest where the incident occurred. A direct free-kick will be awarded for direct free-kick offences - and a penalty could be awarded if it happens parallel to the penalty area.

Law 14 - the penalty kick

Players who feint to kick the ball once they have taken a run-up when taking a penalty will get booked for unsporting behaviour. Feinting in the run-up is allowed. And goalkeepers who come off their line too early will also be booked.

Law 15 - the throw-in

Opposing players who try to impede a throw-in will be cautioned if they are standing under two metres away.

Law 17 - the corner kick

The wording has been changed in the laws to say: "The ball is in play when it is kicked and clearly moves." This is to stop players "unsportingly" touching the ball and pretending the corner has not been taken, to gain an advantage.

Nothing in there to deal with cheating, foul language or deliberately intimidating the referee, or dealing with dissent properly.

Total joke.

[Lack of Action Man]

What is the point in altering the kick off rule?!

[Aizoon]

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 10:04, DingleRed said:

Not sure who wrote these but Law 3 refers to yellow cards, Law 14 refers to bookings and Law 15 refers to cautions. Is there a difference or is this just an inconsistent use of vocabulary?

I suspect it's a journalist trained not to repeat words but to use synonyms.

[Aizoon]

9 hours ago, CotswoldRed said:

Nothing in there to deal with cheating, foul language or deliberately intimidating the referee, or dealing with dissent properly.

Total joke.

Aren't all those already offences?

[Portland Bill]

6 hours ago, OddBallJim said:

What is the point in altering the kick off rule?!

To see who can be the first player to score an own goal straight from the kick off!!

[Super]

The end of an automatic red card for denying a goalscoring opportunity? I thought that rule was a good one.

 

http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/johnson-keen-to-boost-under-21-numbers-3136030.aspx#KcshuDLuOR8IPCHD.99

[elhombrecito]

Always thought it was a stupid rule. If you take somebody down in the area, you haven't denied a clear goal goalscoring opportunity. If a penalty isn't a clear goalscoring opportunity I don't know what is.

Believe it will still apply for instances where somebody has blatantly not attempted to win the ball, or violent conduct etc.

Good change 

[Robin1988]

I think it's a good change personally, it's a bit of a bastard if you make a well-intended challenge to win the ball and end up getting sent off and conceding a near-certain goal as well.

[Super]

6 minutes ago, El Hombrecito said:

Always thought it was a stupid rule. If you take somebody down in the area, you haven't denied a clear goal goalscoring opportunity. If a penalty isn't a clear goalscoring opportunity I don't know what is.

Believe it will still apply for instances where somebody has blatantly not attempted to win the ball, or violent conduct etc.

Good change 

Ah right well I am in favour if it still applies for those.

[Eddie Hitler]

Sounds like it's gone back to what we thought it was going to be when it was brought in:

Red card for a professional foul deliberately committed to stop a likely goal.

[downendcity]

3 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

Sounds like it's gone back to what we thought it was going to be when it was brought in:

Red card for a professional foul deliberately committed to stop a likely goal.

Think the whole debate about the so called professional foul was started when Keown ( i think) chopped down Martin Allen for West Ham in the cup final when Allen was through on goal, but because the foul was outside the box WHam's "reward" was just a direct free kick and the defender escaped with a yellow card and the outcome seemed completely unjust.

Now it often seems that in most cases it is an unfair punishment to award a penalty and send off the defender when the offence is in the box. If they make a change then the red card sanction should still be available in incidents such as Martin Allen's, otherwise defenders will make the cynical judgement to take a player out when outside the box, knowing the worst outcome is a yellow card and a free kick from distance. 

 

[BobBobSuperBob]

 

17 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Think the whole debate about the so called professional foul was started when Keown ( i think) chopped down Martin Allen for West Ham in the cup final when Allen was through on goal, but because the foul was outside the box WHam's "reward" was just a direct free kick and the defender escaped with a yellow card and the outcome seemed completely unjust.

Now it often seems that in most cases it is an unfair punishment to award a penalty and send off the defender when the offence is in the box. If they make a change then the red card sanction should still be available in incidents such as Martin Allen's, otherwise defenders will make the cynical judgement to take a player out when outside the box, knowing the worst outcome is a yellow card and a free kick from distance.

You are right about the start of the debate re 'professional foul' Downend

Think it was Willie Young on Paul Allen (1980 ?)

Then four years later in the Cup Final (Kevin Moran became the first player ? In a Cup Final?) sent off for identical incident, chopping down Peter Reid 

[Robbored]

12 minutes ago, downendcity said:

 

Now it often seems that in most cases it is an unfair punishment to award a penalty and send off the defender when the offence is in the box. If they make a change then the red card sanction should still be available in incidents such as Martin Allen's, otherwise defenders will make the cynical judgement to take a player out when outside the box, knowing the worst outcome is a yellow card and a free kick from distance. 

 

Maybe when a defender prevents a goalscoring opportunity outside the box by fouling the player then a red card should be issued. If the same occurred inside the box then it's a yellow and a penalty.

The previous punishment of a red and a penalty was excessive. Two punishments for one foul essentially.

[cockneydave]

On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 13:10, Super said:

This would make football a complete joke.

Like the so called level playing field!!!

[RedM]

22 hours ago, Robbored said:

Maybe when a defender prevents a goalscoring opportunity outside the box by fouling the player then a red card should be issued. If the same occurred inside the box then it's a yellow and a penalty.

The previous punishment of a red and a penalty was excessive. Two punishments for one foul essentially.

You see a lot of players going for that don't you, I mean trying to win the penalty plus the bonus of having the opposition player sent off, rather than the attacking player staying on his feet and going for goal. Win win. It seems worse the higher up the leagues you go, Premiership and foreign teams excel in it. Horrible to watch as at best it's cheating.