Major Isewater Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 An interesting insight into those First division heydays https://books.google.fr/books?id=xRQjAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT177&lpg=PT177&dq=bristol city team of the first division&source=bl&ots=WA-1OGUuOK&sig=WKdpP0IWpPtDb3x1oyJJvNO0avU&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR4v332_3RAhWFXBoKHX-6A7wQ6AEIRDAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Bill Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Very interesting - thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Enjoyed that mate...thanks for posting up :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Ta Major - brought back some memories that ! Liked Peter Cormack as a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just a note to those who shot me down when I declared that City were one of the best payers in the First Division, from the horse's mouth; " City increased my basic wage from what I was getting at Liverpool to € 240 a week " Make of that what you will . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalist Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Just a note to those who shot me down when I declared that City were one of the best payers in the First Division, from the horse's mouth; " City increased my basic wage from what I was getting at Liverpool to € 240 a week " Make of that what you will . Very modern for those days to pay in euros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 42 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Just a note to those who shot me down when I declared that City were one of the best payers in the First Division, from the horse's mouth; " City increased my basic wage from what I was getting at Liverpool to € 240 a week " Make of that what you will . His basic may have been higher, but I'd bet his bonus was lower and paid less frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Thanks for posting that Major................good memories for a lot of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Just a note to those who shot me down when I declared that City were one of the best payers in the First Division, from the horse's mouth; " City increased my basic wage from what I was getting at Liverpool to € 240 a week " Make of that what you will . Norman Hunter said exactly the same thing about his wage increase on joining City in his biography. He does go on to say at least at Leeds he didn't have to take his own kit home to wash after a game. Maybe that's how we saved the money to pay for player wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 54 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Just a note to those who shot me down when I declared that City were one of the best payers in the First Division, from the horse's mouth; " City increased my basic wage from what I was getting at Liverpool to € 240 a week " Make of that what you will . I distinctly remember an article in the News of the World in 76 which publicised the alleged highest and average wages for the first division teams. As I recall only a few paid more. Everton, Spurs spring to mind but not many others. Nuts absolutely nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dazzler Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Very interesting, thanks for posting. Being a bit picky, Jimmy Mann was never played at centre forward as PC seemed to remember. I wonder if he was thinking of Paul Cheesley, who started at CF and scored the winner at Highbury but then got injured in the very next game against Stoke. Other than that Tom Ritchie played up front as well as Keith Fear, also I think Donnie Gillies played there as without Cheese we had no physical presence up front until Joe Royle was signed the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, New Dazzler said: Very interesting, thanks for posting. Being a bit picky, Jimmy Mann was never played at centre forward as PC seemed to remember. I wonder if he was thinking of Paul Cheesley, who started at CF and scored the winner at Highbury but then got injured in the very next game against Stoke. Other than that Tom Ritchie played up front as well as Keith Fear, also I think Donnie Gillies played there as without Cheese we had no physical presence up front until Joe Royle was signed the next season. I can't open the link unfortunately, but if it refers to 76/77 then Chris Garland did the business up front as I recall and had a major say in keeping us up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 44 minutes ago, Fatalist said: Very modern for those days to pay in euros? If you can find à pound sign on my french iPhone I'd use it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dazzler Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Loon plage said: I can't open the link unfortunately, but if it refers to 76/77 then Chris Garland did the business up front as I recall and had a major say in keeping us up? Yeah you are right about Chris, but he didn't arrive until December 1976, and I just can't think why Peter seemed to think that Jimmy Mann played at CF when he clearly didn't - he always played central midfield. It may be that in the days of no squad numbers Jimmy Mann took over the no 9 shirt from Paul Cheesely after he was injured. Further thoughts on Peter Cormack, I seem to remember he made his debut at Tottenham and set up the winning goal for Keith Fear with about 5 minutes left. Cue lots of Spurs fans in the "City" end looking slightly miffed and just as I was about to leap around my "minder" Mike (for those who remember he was the late "Ashtonyate" of this forum) who grappled me halfway to the ground so as not to alert the baying mob! Good times!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 He mention A Scot Cup group, we beat them 3-0..... surely it was something like 6-0/1 Chrissey's "goal" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Fatalist said: Very modern for those days to pay in euros? Found it ...£ £ £ . look what else I got ₽ ₩ ¥ $ € ! You've got to love new technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 Peter Cormack scored the only goal of my first ever City game - a penalty in a 1-0 win over Spurs - Chris Garland also scored with his fist but that was strangely disallowed. Thanks for the memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, CiderJar said: Peter Cormack scored the only goal of my first ever City game - a penalty in a 1-0 win over Spurs - Chris Garland also scored with his fist but that was strangely disallowed. Thanks for the memories. Didn't Spurs go,in the East End that night ? , recall a few being escorted around the pitch Can still see Cormack netting the pen at East End !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, CiderJar said: Peter Cormack scored the only goal of my first ever City game - a penalty in a 1-0 win over Spurs - Chris Garland also scored with his fist but that was strangely disallowed. Thanks for the memories. That was the night we sent them down. Absolute carnage afterwards. I got a right good kicking off about four of them out by the old Winterstoke Road bus garage. Happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Didn't Spurs go,in the East End that night ? , recall a few being escorted around the pitch Can still see Cormack netting the pen at East End !! I don't recall, but I do remember people being escorted round the pitch in most games at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: That was the night we sent them down. Absolute carnage afterwards. I got a right good kicking off about four of them out by the old Winterstoke Road bus garage. Happy days! If it makes you feel any better City got your revenge later at TM.....mayhem ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: That was the night we sent them down. Absolute carnage afterwards. I got a right good kicking off about four of them out by the old Winterstoke Road bus garage. Happy days! I suppose you have to pay for that sort of thing these days RRH ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 8 hours ago, New Dazzler said: Yeah you are right about Chris, but he didn't arrive until December 1976, and I just can't think why Peter seemed to think that Jimmy Mann played at CF when he clearly didn't - he always played central midfield. It may be that in the days of no squad numbers Jimmy Mann took over the no 9 shirt from Paul Cheesely after he was injured. Further thoughts on Peter Cormack, I seem to remember he made his debut at Tottenham and set up the winning goal for Keith Fear with about 5 minutes left. Cue lots of Spurs fans in the "City" end looking slightly miffed and just as I was about to leap around my "minder" Mike (for those who remember he was the late "Ashtonyate" of this forum) who grappled me halfway to the ground so as not to alert the baying mob! Good times!! Keith Fears belly to the floor Walrus celebration is a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Found it ...£ £ £ . look what else I got ₽ ₩ ¥ $ € ! You've got to love new technology. sorry Major it is very old technology :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 hours ago, CiderJar said: I don't recall, but I do remember people being escorted round the pitch in most games at the time. The one I always remember is Man City at home. Think Chris scored the winner for us. About thirty City suicide squad being dragged out of the away end by the cops and being applauded as they were escorted around the pitch. Tell the snowflakes today and they wouldn't believe you. :laugh:? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 37 minutes ago, reddoh said: sorry Major it is very old technology :-) It's new to me ; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: It's new to me ; Tell me about it , tried teaching my dad fore the last five years (bit like playing Wednesday on Tuesday) are you my dad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 9 hours ago, reddoh said: Tell me about it , tried teaching my dad fore the last five years (bit like playing Wednesday on Tuesday) are you my dad? It's possible but don't tell your mother . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmering Red Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 22 hours ago, New Dazzler said: Yeah you are right about Chris, but he didn't arrive until December 1976, and I just can't think why Peter seemed to think that Jimmy Mann played at CF when he clearly didn't - he always played central midfield. It may be that in the days of no squad numbers Jimmy Mann took over the no 9 shirt from Paul Cheesely after he was injured. I seem to recall Mann wore the no 9 but played midfield and Cheesley no 10 playing as a striker through the promotion season and if you look at the Youtube of the Arsenal game at Highbury in 1976, the first one after the promotion season you will see the same. The bad run Cormack refers to was after a good start we had a run of 7 defeats in 8 with 1 draw including 6 defeats on the trot, AD signed Norman Hunter and then shortly afterwards Cormack to add experience to a relatively young team, and as Cormack mentioned Chrissie Garland later. No transfer windows in those days. Similar but not as bad as our run this season, except we had to wait until Jan 1st to sign the experience we needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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