bobbyhutchscurlymullet Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40831719 So an ex Fulham player is on the panel! And I bet Steve Dunn is a gashead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Keyardiv said: No, I'm not sure why you would think I'm implying that. I was trying to clarify how the term simulation is used with a clearer example. The ball clearly "whacked' Rivaldo but he went down clutching his face. That's what your player is being accused of. I even stated 'guilty or not' in my post to make this clear. I was trying to help another poster out who seemed to be trying to explain the charge too. I obviously haven't helped. Bristol City forum mate, fock off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Do the FA keep a " little black book " I wonder ? . Both Rotherham and City , I believe have successfully appealed "reds" this season. Probably just a coincidence but to date we are the only 2 teams to cop retrospective simulation bans !!! Hmmmm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 After the 2-0 defeat to City, Fulham boss Slavisa Jokanovic criticised Kamara for shoving Wright, but blasted Duncan’s decision to send his man off. He said: “[Kamara] made a mistake and gave the chance for the referee to show him a red card.” Even the Fulham manager admitted there was contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Midred said: It'll be interesting to see if all the Cardiff players manage to stay on their feet tomorrow rather than attempting to penalise the city players? Also will city be expected to remain upright at all times against Neil's dark arts? Excellent point. Reckon this will stop Colin and his usual antics? Sadly no ******* chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, hodge said: Our statement says Bailey stayed down after hurting top of his back/lower neck on impact falling awkwardly. How often do you see someone holding their face when hurt, very regularly. The Sky highlights show Wright clutching his face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRed Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Think we are absolutely right to contest this with accusatory language, if that's what it's considered to be. Cannot see how the red card was overturned as Kamara clearly strikes/pushes Wright. I thought striking an opponent, particularly not in open play, was a red card. The banning of Wright obviously stems from Fulham's successful appeal but how the heck did the panel consider it to be NOT striking on that video evidence? Decidedly fishy this decision. We need to pursue it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Just now, Merrick's Marvels said: The Sky highlights show Wright clutching his face... Did you read what I put? You often see people clutch their face when hurt, hell I know I did when I dislocated me knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 This is clearly not a Wright decision; it's so bl**dy wrong. As "Fore-arm Smash" Kamara's namesake on SKY would say - "Unbelievable!" This in a blatant infringement of our Human Wrights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Play him only way to beat the corrupt fa is to not adhere to their nonsense I'm sure legally there has to be some legislation giving at least 24 hrs notice the legal team should be looking for this obvious loophole ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Bloody hell just realised it was Scott Duncan the same referee who was in charge of Carlisle vs Wycombe, the game which involved the incident with Shaun Miller being the first guy to get retrospectively suspended for simulation. Any coincidence this guy has already been involved with 2 decisions that have been reversed or just the common factor of him being shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Haven't read the thread but guess It's about simulation against Fulham. Flint doing very well & Pisarro superior in that position we need a new captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRed Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: The Sky highlights show Wright clutching his face... They also appear to show Kamara's elbow moving towards Wright's face. Said elbow MIGHT have caught him on the chin. Would need a different camera angle to be certain whether it did or didn't. Did the panel have that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, super_scotty_murray said: I do agree that there must have been numerous similar incidents over the course of this season that have not had such a punishment. Unfortunately someone was going to be made a scapegoat somewhere along the way and it is us. From now on they have be consistent with this if they have set this one as a precedent, otherwise I agree that we are being unfairly treated. I do think however that Bailey did make a meal of it, and therefore we of course are a little biased as he is one of our own. If the shoe was on the other foot I imagine we would see it differently. Well you are in a minority of ONE...the shove was enough to ground anyone, it was an assault, clearly, not a case of being biased at all, this is a total miscarriage, I cannot begin to get my head around it, if he did simulate, I would feel at ease, but he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Stand up you are English and not south European cowards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezer Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Absolutely shocking decision and timing/handling by The FA. FA on this occasion stands for 'forking arseholes'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said: For anyone wondering who sits on the panel... If The FA believes that there may be a case to answer, a three-person panel consisting of one ex-player, one ex-manager and one ex-match official will be convened from the pool, subject to any conflicts of interest. Former players/managers · Dai Adkins · Blodwyn Brown-Finnis · Dai Butcher · Dai Dixon · Dai McLeish · Dai Murphy · Dai Powell · Dai Sinclair Former match officials · Myffanwy Barratt · Dai Dunn · Dai Mullarkey · Dai Wiley · Dai Wolstenhome · Dai Warnock http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/aug/04/fa-confirm-pool-for-successful-deception-offences-040817 Fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 minute ago, RidgeRed said: They also appear to show Kamara's elbow moving towards Wright's face. Said elbow MIGHT have caught him on the chin. Would need a different camera angle to be certain whether it did or didn't. Did the panel have that? I agree - his elbow might have. I's just suggesting that the panel's view is that it didn't and have therefore concluded Wright was play acting by holding his face. The video evidence available to joe public doesn't support a rescinding of the red card - you would have thought - and doesn't seem conclusive enough to be sure there was no contact with Wright's face - but that's the FA for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 The FA in their own statement after the shaun miller incident said they would only reverse cases of overwhelming evidence... I don't see how this case shows overwhelming evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Leveller said: This has to be the basis, surely? He was clearly pushed over but if he faked being hit in the face to make it a red card, it changes the case considerably. So if that's the case and they're going to be consistent, we should be seeing a dozen bans handed out every single week. Not happening, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Fixed that for you. You missed them having the surnames Jones and Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Keyardiv said: No, I'm not sure why you would think I'm implying that. I was trying to clarify how the term simulation is used with a clearer example. The ball clearly "whacked' Rivaldo but he went down clutching his face. That's what your player is being accused of. I even stated 'guilty or not' in my post to make this clear. I was trying to help another poster out who seemed to be trying to explain the charge too. I obviously haven't helped. I would suggest that you were implying that Bailey Wright was NOT “whacked”. There is no doubt whatsoever that he clearly WAS. Deliberately, or accidentally, he blantently got clattered, off the ball. Whether that contact was with his face, or upper body is not clear and largely irrelevant. Baily Wright receiving a 2 game ban is a ******* discgrace! No 2 ways about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: That's pretty much what he did. I have just watched it, and to me it looks as if Kamaras shoulder is raised as if his elbow or forearm was making contact within the chest/head area of BW. With that in mind I'd say it was understandable that he was holding his face. 40 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Being shown on https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4835175/bristol-city-bailey-wright-diving-ban-aboubakar-kamara/ the bit that is not very clear, after he pushes him in the chest it appears that he catches him with the right elbow on the chin Agree completely, as per previous comment above. 12 minutes ago, hodge said: Did you read what I put? You often see people clutch their face when hurt, hell I know I did when I dislocated me knee. Again agree completely. It's almost an instinct to either grab the part that you have hurt, or to cover your face. Done it many a time myself. I don't think we've heard the last of this by a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 22 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Do the FA keep a " little black book " I wonder ? . Both Rotherham and City , I believe have successfully appealed "reds" this season. Probably just a coincidence but to date we are the only 2 teams to cop retrospective simulation bans !!! Hmmmm! Are we paying the price for Taylor's "broken nose" that was made alot of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, hodge said: Did you read what I put? You often see people clutch their face when hurt, hell I know I did when I dislocated me knee. Laughable. A big tough Aussie gets a whack on the torso so clutches his face and his legs collapse. He'll be playing in a pink tutu next! I'm sure dislocating your knee was excruciating btw but the same level of agony seems highly unlikely in Wright's case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 minute ago, tommytank1985 said: On the slow mo he clearly makes contact with his face! Either that, or Bailey Wright has the fastest reactions and best acting ability that I’ve ever seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Midred said: Are we paying the price for Taylor's "broken nose" that was made alot of? Taylor’s nose being broken, or not, was irrelivent to the fact that the Leeds player headbutted him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Laughable. A big tough Aussie gets a whack on the torso so clutches his face and his legs collapse. He'll be playing in a pink tutu next! I'm sure dislocating your knee was excruciating btw but the same level of agony seems highly unlikely in Wright's case. It's not about the push he received though as I said before, in his statement he said he landed awkwardly on his neck/top of his back, which can be painful. The reason Bailey stayed down according to him is nothing to do with the contact he was on the receiving end of. However the contact is the main point of Kamara's red card being rescinded as it did happen and someone of Kamara's size would definitely be able to push with enough force to make almost anyone fall over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 R.I.P. Football. But let's face it, it's been ill for focking ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 1 hour ago, bobbyhutchscurlymullet said: So why aren't players who are booked for simulation given 2 match bans. Something to do with lack of evidence, probably.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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