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Winning ugly again

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It's an excellent sign when City don't play particularly well but still win the game as happened this afternoon. City never really got out of third gear and Forest were disappointing but you can only beat what's in front of you and  a win is a win.

Pack was excellent and my MoM and his goal topped an terrific performance.

I missed Bryans goal as I'd gone for a piss..........:facepalm:

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3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It's an excellent sign when City don't play particularly well but still win the game as happened this afternoon. City never really got out of third gear and Forest were disappointing but you can only beat what's in front of you and  a win is a win.

Pack was excellent and my MoM and his goal topped an terrific performance.

I missed Bryan's goal as I'd gone for a piss..........:facepalm:

Not being there at the right time is becoming a regular occurrence.

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I'm not sure it was that ugly. Forest have won a lot of games, they are no mugs... and credit to them for playing football. Great game btw, really good game.

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10 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It's an excellent sign when City don't play particularly well but still win the game as happened this afternoon. City never really got out of third gear and Forest were disappointing but you can only beat what's in front of you and  a win is a win.

Pack was excellent and my MoM and his goal topped an terrific performance.

I missed Bryans goal as I'd gone for a piss..........:facepalm:

At least you had the tannoy to let you know who scored

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4 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

I'm not sure it was that ugly. Forest have won a lot of games, they are no mugs... and credit to them for playing football. Great game btw, really good game.

Absolutely, no idea what was ugly about it at all.

We played well, Forest at least came and made a game of it and the ref, who was so bad against Burton, had a decent afternoon.

Considering how short of numbers we are, the run we are on has been just exceptional.

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14 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It's an excellent sign when City don't play particularly well but still win the game as happened this afternoon. City never really got out of third gear and Forest were disappointing but you can only beat what's in front of you and  a win is a win.

Pack was excellent and my MoM and his goal topped an terrific performance.

I missed Bryans goal as I'd gone for a piss..........:facepalm:

I actually thought Pack was our weak link .

Good goal though and one shit stopping tackle.

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I quite enjoyed today TBH. As said, considering we are missing loads of players, we're going well. did Frankie have that much to do at 2-1? I don't remember anything too worrying TBH.

Fair play to Forest for making the game a good watch and take a bow Dowell, that was some strike! 

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19 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It's an excellent sign when City don't play particularly well but still win the game as happened this afternoon. City never really got out of third gear and Forest were disappointing but you can only beat what's in front of you and  a win is a win.

Pack was excellent and my MoM and his goal topped an terrific performance.

I missed Bryans goal as I'd gone for a piss..........:facepalm:

The scary thing is when we start playing well we will be flying!!! Last 4 have battled through. One or two quality additions in Jan. 

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4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

I actually thought Pack was our weak link .

Good goal though and one shit stopping tackle.

cant knock a player who can constipate the opposition and score goals

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2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Absolutely, no idea what was ugly about it at all.

We played well, Forest at least came and made a game of it and the ref, who was so bad against Burton, had a decent afternoon.

Considering how short of numbers we are, the run we are on has been just exceptional.

I certainly agree with your last sentence and great credit has to go to LJ for creating such a deep squad.

I didn't think City played well at all. Several periods of ragged play and the usual flow of our football under LJ wasn't in great supply but Forest deserve some credit for that. They certainly weren't an easy team to play against but at the same time never really threatened FF in goal. Their goal was a long deflected effort.

But we all see the same game differently I guess.

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3 minutes ago, 29AR said:

I thought you hated winning ugly - that was your only stick for Johnson senior :blink:

Not the same thing at all AR.

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24 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It's an excellent sign when City don't play particularly well but still win the game as happened this afternoon. City never really got out of third gear and Forest were disappointing but you can only beat what's in front of you and  a win is a win.

Pack was excellent and my MoM and his goal topped an terrific performance.

I missed Bryans goal as I'd gone for a piss..........:facepalm:

Winning again is great. The fact that you are ugly is just one of those things .............................. :wub:

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Thought we mainly controlled the game. Much better first half and even 2nd we created all the chances. Even their goal wasn't exactly a chance that we gave them as no one has a right to score from there. Subs were perfect and felt we held on comfortably in the end. 

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I thought first half we were pretty good actually. 

Their goal gave them a lift and they were much better second half but never felt like they were really going to hurt us much.

Personally I think accumulating points is more important than performances at this time of the season. 

We could really do with a couple of weeks break though!!

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16 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It's an excellent sign when City don't play particularly well but still win the game as happened this afternoon. City never really got out of third gear and Forest were disappointing but you can only beat what's in front of you and  a win is a win.

Pack was excellent and my MoM and his goal topped an terrific performance.

I missed Bryans goal as I'd gone for a piss..........:facepalm:

I actually thought Pack was our weak link .

Good goal though and one shit stopping tackle.

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11 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

I actually thought Pack was our weak link .

Good goal though and one shit stopping tackle.

Down the pub early, Major?

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Our passing and movement was sublime in the first half and it was surprising that both our goals were long range efforts. Second half we were heading for 2-2 until Taylor came on to partner Bobby up front, from then on we were more of a presence on the pitch and it looked more likely that we would score a third rather than concede a second. Great substitution, showed tactical nous.

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44 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

I actually thought Pack was our weak link .

Good goal though and one shit stopping tackle.

Pack our weak link? An absolutely outrageous shout 

Why do people find it so hard to recognise his ability... technically he's our best football, can see things and play balls that no one else can in this team 

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10 minutes ago, ForeverRes said:

Pack our weak link? An absolutely outrageous shout 

Why do people find it so hard to recognise his ability... technically he's our best football, can see things and play balls that no one else can in this team 

Today he was generally slower than his team mates , lost the ball often and put at least one ' pass ' directly out of play.

I think Pack is capable of more than he realises and hope he pushes through .

Why do some people over rate him ? 

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4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Today he was generally slower than his team mates , lost the ball often and put at least one ' pass ' directly out of play.

I think Pack is capable of more than he realises and hope he pushes through .

Why do some people over rate him ? 

You're wrong 

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10 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Today he was generally slower than his team mates , lost the ball often and put at least one ' pass ' directly out of play.

I think Pack is capable of more than he realises and hope he pushes through .

Why do some people over rate him ? 

Why do people underrate him?

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Don’t agree it was ugly.  

We dominated the first half, they had one good chance from the ex-Rovers player and one cross shot that FF could’ve left.  We created lots of space in the final third, and fully deserved our lead.  Was surprised Forest came out and made a bit of a game of it.  I thought they might give up.  Even though it was more of a contest, worldie goal apart, they had a shot from Osborn and a mishit shot from a cross....that was all.

We were a bit sloppy with the ball second half, but still pleasing on the eye at times.  Their keeper kept them in it.  So wanted Taylor’s shot to be a tap-in for Reid.

Not an ugly win.

No team dominates 90 minutes, and when boosted by a great goal, a team like a Forest are always gonna have ‘moments’....but we didn’t allow them many.

We are a good team...think we’ll go the distance.

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43 minutes ago, ForeverRes said:

Pack our weak link? An absolutely outrageous shout 

Why do people find it so hard to recognise his ability... technically he's our best football, can see things and play balls that no one else can in this team 

Sorry but do you seriously think he's technically our best footballer?

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13 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Sorry but do you seriously think he's technically our best footballer?

Yes. Which is displayed in his passing ability. 

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15 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Sorry but do you seriously think he's technically our best footballer?

He is good technically - best? Not sure.  Just lacks that yard of pace to be a top player.  Brownhill’s emergence has meant we’ve started to undervalue Pack, but he still has a place in our midfield, even if not week in week out.

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Just got home.

Funny feeling diving up, just could not shake the feeling we would win. Not often I feel like that. Thought we looked by far the most dangerous team first half. Having said that, assumed Bryan's goal most have taken a big deflection, and watching the highlights just seems the goalie lost sight of it.

Real shame about their goal, good as it was, as it shaped the second half when I thought we might push on. Even so, still thought we were the most likely to score.

Decent game, Forest did not try just to stifle the match. Driving back, just felt like a regulation home win.

Looking forward, after QPR we have Wolves, Villa and Derby in the next five. Good to get them out the way in one sense, but will be tough. At one level we feel put held with sticking plaster at the moment, but one more game ticked off before January is here. As Preston and now Sheff Utd have shown, drop off the pace a little and it can turn in to a bad run very quickly. Equally, win next week and it's 46 points from 23, which is better than I could have dreamed.

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18 minutes ago, ForeverRes said:

Yes. Which is displayed in his passing ability. 

He does the occasional good cross field pass, and did a couple of great over the top passes earlier in the season. But generally he is a decent hard working midfielder that does a decent job in winning headers and passing the ball backwards and sideways. He is much better when he has time and space and we are well on top. Today he gave it away a lot in the first half and I didn't think it was one of his better games. I think his form has got worse in recent games, having had a very good start to the season. There is no way he is of the technical ability of Bobby, Pato, brownhill or even Korey. All of which are so much better with the ball at their feet in tight situations. Pack often has to go backwards as otherwise he would lose it when facing forward with the ball. I like him, but he isn't a brilliant technical player. 

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2 hours ago, Robbored said:

I missed Bryans goal as I'd gone for a piss..........:facepalm:

 

2 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

I actually thought Pack was our weak link .

Good goal though and one shit stopping tackle.

Was it on Robbored? 

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1 hour ago, David Brent said:

Why do people underrate him?

For the same reason they underestimated Cole Skuse.

The role they both fulfill is an unglamorous  one. Break up opposition play and protect the defence at the same time. Start offensive moves often with simple lay offs or more astute passes. 

Both excellant defensive midfielders.

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Marlon with pace wouldn’t be at our club . Great finish from him, would like to see that more often, when he gets caught the wrong side of the ball he looks a little slow at times . Sometimes in the middle we lack a little creativity for sure . 

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44 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

He does the occasional good cross field pass, and did a couple of great over the top passes earlier in the season. But generally he is a decent hard working midfielder that does a decent job in winning headers and passing the ball backwards and sideways. He is much better when he has time and space and we are well on top. Today he gave it away a lot in the first half and I didn't think it was one of his better games. I think his form has got worse in recent games, having had a very good start to the season. There is no way he is of the technical ability of Bobby, Pato, brownhill or even Korey. All of which are so much better with the ball at their feet in tight situations. Pack often has to go backwards as otherwise he would lose it when facing forward with the ball. I like him, but he isn't a brilliant technical player. 

Beckham was technically gifted. Doesn't mean he was good in tight situations. 

Pack has the ability to see things and play balls like no other in our team. Technically he is better, but lacks skill unlike Pato / Bobby etc. 

I think there is a difference between technical and skill. Lampard was technically brilliant, and someone like Hazard is skilfully brilliant (just to confirm my point, im not saying Pack is Becks/ Lamps)

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8 hours ago, ForeverRes said:

Beckham was technically gifted. Doesn't mean he was good in tight situations. 

Pack has the ability to see things and play balls like no other in our team. Technically he is better, but lacks skill unlike Pato / Bobby etc. 

I think there is a difference between technical and skill. Lampard was technically brilliant, and someone like Hazard is skilfully brilliant (just to confirm my point, im not saying Pack is Becks/ Lamps)

I think we should agree to disagree. I think we have a different understanding of what technical ability means. I thought Beckham was always a very good technical player, and far more than just a good passer and crosser of the ball. I like pack, and rate him as a decent championship midfielder. As for a top championship midfielder, I don't see him in the same league as smith and brownhill.

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Pack was quite obviously the best player on the pitch first half,  far better than brownhill. There have been times when josh has played better than pack too, but today he wasn't that good. No one is slagging him though. Yet many on here still see pack as a weak link. It is really starting to baffle me now! 

The last time we lost guess who didn't start. Smith? Brownhill? No pack. Without him to cover, Josh was forced deeper and deeper and showed his weakness defensively. Unable to shepherd a player away from danger and getting caught wrong side. These are packs strengths and off the ball ability is less impressive to look at than on the ball skills. Pack does the ugly stuff well. 

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20 minutes ago, redfieldred said:

Pack was quite obviously the best player on the pitch first half,  far better than brownhill. There have been times when josh has played better than pack too, but today he wasn't that good. No one is slagging him though. Yet many on here still see pack as a weak link. It is really starting to baffle me now! 

Apart from the goal, I thought he was our worst player first half. He had clearly been told to push further forward than usual, and our fine passing moves often broke down when it got to him. Thought he had a much better second half. But no way would I give him motm. I thought overall Reid was our best player. Pack was better than brownhill on this one occasion. But generally brownhill has been superb for us consistently all season and is much better in the middle of the park. 

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