cheshire_red Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Of the six League games after each round of the Cup we have won just one of six, away at Sunderland of the others we drew with Villa, Norwich and QPR and lost two to Birmingham and Norwich. Hadn't realised that until reading the excellent Loft for Words match preview https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/47389/qpr-hope-to-profit-from-any-city-cup-hangover--preview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Really good overview, only one small point is that they failed to notice how Fammy has been out injured hence why he hasn't been playing "Famara Diedhiou who arrived for reasonably big money from the other side of the Channel over the summer but has struggled for starts due to the form of Bobby Reid" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hoping that today we have a stronger squad and that the previous games / results were down to fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Correlation does not necessarily show causation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, JBFC II said: "Famara Diedhiou who arrived for reasonably big money from the other side of the Channel over the summer but has struggled for starts due to the form of Bobby Reid" Whoever produced that article obviously hadn't done their homework............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 You cant say it definitely cost us points unless you know for a fact we would have picked up points in those games had we not played in the cup. All we can do is speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 I wouldn't swap that feeling at the final whistle against Man Utd for anything. We have plenty of games left this season to push on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: All we can do is speculate. Plenty of speculation on otib Jim especially around transfers in and out. All part of the fun I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Midlands Robin said: I wouldn't swap that feeling at the final whistle against Man Utd for anything. We have plenty of games left this season to push on. This. It ain't every day you knock out one of the world's biggest teams. And then give another of the world's biggest teams something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Plenty of speculation on otib Jim especially around transfers in and out. All part of the fun I guess. Use my actual name instead of being a wumming twunt Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Hoping that today we have a stronger squad and that the previous games / results were down to fatigue. Hoping the same - this game feels different in that the cups are all over now and everyone is focussed entirely on the league. Add to that the fixtures haven’t piled up in quite the same way as before and up-to Christmas and with the players returning/new additions to strengthen the squad. We are all set to kick on again now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: Plenty of speculation on otib Jim especially around transfers in and out. All part of the fun I guess. Here's a hypothetical for you - you just so happened to be in the coffee shop at AG one day and on the table next to you was LJ, Ashton and Cole Skuse. Johnson says to you 'Robbored my old chum, I am here with Mark because Cole Skuse is going to sign for us' Skuse nods in agreement. Ashton is brandishing a contract which Skuse is signing. (In a disused coffee cup on the table is an excel spreadsheet with the squad's wages on.) Would you still only believe Skuse was signing when it's published on the website or would that be evidence enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alessandro said: Hoping the same - this game feels different in that the cups are all over now and everyone is focussed entirely on the league. Add to that the fixtures haven’t piled up in quite the same way as before and up-to Christmas and with the players returning/new additions to strengthen the squad. We are all set to kick on again now. QPR, Bolton and Sunderland is a great 3 games to kick on too. Given there's only 3 matches today, a win can put a little pressure on teams like Villa for Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Here's a hypothetical for you - you just so happened to be in the coffee shop at AG one day and on the table next to you was LJ, Ashton and Cole Skuse. Johnson says to you 'Robbored my old chum, I am here with Mark because Cole Skuse is going to sign for us' Skuse nods in agreement. Ashton is brandishing a contract which Skuse is signing. (In a disused coffee cup on the table is an excel spreadsheet with the squad's wages on.) Would you still only believe Skuse was signing when it's published on the website or would that be evidence enough for you? I be LJ would have been briefed about Robbored by his old man, so RR probably wouldn't have the stones to argue with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Alessandro said: Hoping the same - this game feels different in that the cups are all over now and everyone is focussed entirely on the league. Add to that the fixtures haven’t piled up in quite the same way as before and up-to Christmas and with the players returning/new additions to strengthen the squad. We are all set to kick on again now. I have a very good feeling about today - not sure why. I just have a feeling it's going to be a Huddersfield at home type result from last season. 3 or 4-0. No cups to think about, Diedhiou back and getting fit, Bobby reverted back to his preferred role.. Diony to make an appearance.. Kent and Walsh settling in.. Think we're going to make a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsaw Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 It may have cost us a few points but it gave me memories that will last a lifetime, so very happy with how the cup worked out for us this year thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Here's a hypothetical for you - you just so happened to be in the coffee shop at AG one day and on the table next to you was LJ, Ashton and Cole Skuse. Johnson says to you 'Robbored my old chum, I am here with Mark because Cole Skuse is going to sign for us' Skuse nods in agreement. Ashton is brandishing a contract which Skuse is signing. (In a disused coffee cup on the table is an excel spreadsheet with the squad's wages on.) Would you still only believe Skuse was signing when it's published on the website or would that be evidence enough for you? Hmmmm.....that's a tough one PF I'd post it on here because I'd actually seen the three of them with the contract in view. Therefore I'd know it was true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Just now, Robbored said: Hmmmm.....that's a tough one PF I'd post it on here because I'd actually seen the three of them with the contract in view. Therefore I'd know it was true. I'd say that's a wise answer. However, still could be wild speculation in my book - better to be safe than sorry and wait until it's on the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Fox Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Plenty of time to pick up the points we need, helped by the confidence and praise from the cup run. The memories of the Man Utd Game and trip to the Etihed will live with me forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadmeerkat Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Given the fact that we are 5th 5 points off 2nd with 18 games left. Beat 4 premier league teams with one of them being Man U and ran Man City close 5-3 over 2 legs and being the only side to score 2 goals against them since October domestically. To have all the players we have had out with injuries and now with them slowly coming back. I mean for Diedhiou to put the 45 mins he did against Derby given he's been out since October was great. And to make the signings we have made with Diony "the bull" plus 2 loans. And to have the next 3 games we have QPR (H), Bolton (A) and Sunderland (H). Three very winnable games on paper, over the next 3 weeks with no cups to distract us. We could be on 57 points middle of Feb with all injuries near enough back and be pushing hard to get into top 6 or even 2nd place. Time will tell but personally, I think things are in a good place even with the league cup and international break ruining our form a little if u want to argue that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Absolutely, if we had gone out to Plymouth we'd be fifteen points clear at the top . Fact . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 The other benefit of the cup run is it’s enabled squad rotation. With only league games, it’s usually the same players getting game time but the extra matches have forced us to play our backup players. Little things like that help squad harmony and the league cup run also meant we basically threw the FA Cup game whilst giving debuts to academy players. That experience of playing Watford will also benefit them hugely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 38 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: You cant say it definitely cost us points unless you know for a fact we would have picked up points in those games had we not played in the cup. All we can do is speculate. The facts are we had a injury ridden squad that had to play very emotional ties against top teams, and given that it coincided with our worst form in the league to date, I think it is not just speculation, but a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Really good overview, only one small point is that they failed to notice how Fammy has been out injured hence why he hasn't been playing "Famara Diedhiou who arrived for reasonably big money from the other side of the Channel over the summer but has struggled for starts due to the form of Bobby Reid" Also , Fammy didn't come from Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 minute ago, 1bristolcity said: The facts are we had a injury ridden squad that had to play very emotional ties against top teams, and given that it coincided with our worst form in the league to date, I think it is not just speculation, but a reason. It is just speculation as there is no way of knowing what would have happened. Perhaps some players would have got upset and caused issues due to lack of game time, given that the cup run allowed a bit more rotation. Perhaps Korey, having a bit more energy having played less games, would have got caught worse by Fleck against Sheffield United and had his leg snapped in two. Perhaps, perhaps. All speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: The facts are we had a injury ridden squad that had to play very emotional ties against top teams, and given that it coincided with our worst form in the league to date, I think it is not just speculation, but a reason. Can never be sure, but it feels like it has cost us points. However, in the round it has been worth it, at least to me. Might be wrong, but we also lost Fammy to injury in a cup game? Equally who is to say the cup run has not generated the cash or profile to attract players in this window that now power us on? in the round, given were we are, one cup run is enough, so happy to be out of the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I have a very good feeling about today - not sure why. I just have a feeling it's going to be a Huddersfield at home type result from last season. 3 or 4-0. No cups to think about, Diedhiou back and getting fit, Bobby reverted back to his preferred role.. Diony to make an appearance.. Kent and Walsh settling in.. Think we're going to make a statement. I hope you're right! I think if we can get an early goal this may well happen. But we are back to the league at home with teams coming to frustrate and nick a goal, ala Norwich. We all know we tend to struggle in these games. Hopefully the physical impact of Fam, and maybe later in the game Lois, can be the difference this week if QPR come and do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: The facts are we had a injury ridden squad that had to play very emotional ties against top teams, and given that it coincided with our worst form in the league to date, I think it is not just speculation, but a reason. Why James would you 'rubbish' this? It's a very reasonable response that has some weight of evidence to support what I say, I wasn't belittling you or your post, just seems a vert strange reaction...something else maybe that motivates you perhaps? Yes that must be it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 55 minutes ago, Robbored said: Hmmmm.....that's a tough one PF I'd post it on here because I'd actually seen the three of them with the contract in view. Therefore I'd know it was true. But you know everyone round be posting "photo or it didn’t happen" Would be less hassle to post nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, 1bristolcity said: Why James would you 'rubbish' this? It's a very reasonable response that has some weight of evidence to support what I say, I wasn't belittling you or your post, just seems a vert strange reaction...something else maybe that motivates you perhaps? Yes that must be it . I responded to your post, reasons are within. As I said, it is just speculation. You cannot know for sure that the League Cup caused us to drop points. No ulterior motives. Oh, and I rubbished this quoted post because of your paranoid insinuation of ulterior motives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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